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2021  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to teach someone about Bitcoin on: June 25, 2016, 02:40:44 PM
Documentary would surely help users to learn and know much about BTC as well. Few movies had shown the bitcoin transaction. If users look at those movies and go through documentaries relating to bitcoin will know something about bitcoin without someone's help.
it can be a great tool. applying information quickly understood.
The first way is to make a documentary nice and interesting to watch.
2022  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: June 24, 2016, 02:39:37 PM
the safest method is this


So they give 10000 satoshi everyday? I will try this out and hope to hit the jackpot. Just want to ask where do they get the jackpot pool they make, or is it their own money that invested on the jackpot price?
The amount is too small. but it's safe. but if I did I better take a risky game, but I could take a huge advantage. I am a person who is not patient enough to become rich quickly.
2023  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: June 24, 2016, 02:08:10 PM
Having experience in gambling is enough, you don't need to treat it like virtue to make it again and again, knowing the concept itself and how does it works is good but too much spending time with it is bad.
yes everyone should know what their consequences will be obtained. they do not think that is the greatest risk of gambling addiction. if everyone wants to do things like he should have been strong to get any results later.
2024  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How is bitcoin most important to you? on: June 24, 2016, 01:33:01 PM
I use bitcoin just for trade alt coins, because the bitcoin is still not famous there are not much people who accept bitcoin as payment method. That is condition at my country.
you are only using bitcoin to benefit from trading alt coin. that's good, then you have to introduce bitcoin to the broad community in your country. bitcoin such as gambling, if you already know bitcoin then we will continue to use it.
2025  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price will reach $4000 after halving ? on: June 24, 2016, 01:29:58 PM
This seems unlikely. the price was too high and looks it makes no sense. I estimate that the price of 1000USD is most likely to be achieved after halving bitcoin.
2026  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: June 24, 2016, 01:16:42 PM
there is no safe way to play gambling. gambling is a risky game so we need courage in every action.
Never unprepared when playing it.
2027  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Pernahkah agan membeli "sesuatu" secara offline menggunakan bitcoin ? on: June 24, 2016, 12:00:31 PM
saya sendiri belum pernah soalny belum nemuin toko yang menerima bitcoin

kalau agan pernah nggk? sharing pengelaman kalian guys Smiley
jawabannya blum pernah.. soalnya tempat tinggal ane terpencil.. makanya hampir di bilang mustahil membeli sesuatu secara offline dengan bitcoin..  Grin Grin
Bahkan di kota besar sekalipun saya rasa hampir enggak ada toko offline yang nerima bitcoin. Yang saya pernah baca sih ada beberapa restoran dan cafe di Jakarta yang mau menerima bitcoin. Tapi kalau secara pribadi, saya sendiri belum pernah ngecobai restorannya. Kalau mau beli sesuatu dengan bitcoin memang saat ini cuma bisa di toko online. Entahlah kalau nanti ada sistem debit bitcoin dan ATM bitcoin.
untuk transaksi bitcoin sekarang ini memang mayoritas secara online gan . hampir semuanya malahan .dan jika ada yang offline juga pasti ujung -ujungnya bakalan menerapkan system online  Grin
2028  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: June 24, 2016, 11:34:59 AM

ini efek dari harga di coinbase karena coinbase akan bekerja sama dengan paypal
bisa di lihat beritanya disini http://cointelegraph.com/news/paypal-and-coinbase-strike-new-bitcoin-payout-agreement-millions-of-customers-affected
dan ini adalah berita yang sangat bagus
kemudian menyusul skype juga kemungkinan akan bekerja sama dengan bitcoin juga.
pantesan saja . sekarang bitcoin mendapatkan saingan dari paypal . ini bisa jadi nilai positif bahkan negatif . mungkin kedepannya coinbase akan mencari pangsa pasar yang lebih luas lagi dengan menarik paypal ke jejaring system mereka.
2029  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is CHINA CONTROLLING Bitcoin? on: June 24, 2016, 11:29:06 AM
I think the strength of china can make them control the bitcoin. btcoin users in China very much. I am pretty sure china is one bitcoin strength in the future. they will have an effect on any action that could alter bitcoin prices in the market.
2030  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: If prices crash after halving, what would you do? on: June 24, 2016, 11:27:36 AM
I will sell bitcoin saaat have good prices when halving. but if you look at the history halving next 4 years will also be very beneficial. so it does not hurt to keep our bitcoin longer.
2031  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin , Credit Card, Paypal ?? Best way on buying online?? on: June 22, 2016, 05:22:26 PM
whatever the choice I would still choose bitcoin. use bitcoin is now very extensive. with ease and speed that is owned by bitcoin then there is no reason for me not to use it.
2032  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [New Thread] Info Signature Campaign | 29 Mei 2016 on: June 22, 2016, 04:42:45 PM

Ini juga jadi permasalahan saya jika ingin bermain signature. saya perhatikan level yang lebih tinggi hampir rata-rata tidak memakan signature padahal di pikir-pikir level sudah tinggi pasti bayaran mungkin sudah lumayan. Apakah setiap yang menyediakan layanan signature pasti suatu saat akan berhenti? dan tidak akan membayar?
signature tidak wajib gan . hanya untuk tambahan penghasilan , jadi bagi beberapa user itu tidak berpengaruh . bisa saja gan, bagaimana kondisi keuangan pembuat signature . untuk beberapa signature biasanya bertahan hanya dalam 2 bulan saja . untuk yang scam juga ada. jadi harus pintar dalam memilih signature mana yang akan dipasang .
2033  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: June 22, 2016, 04:36:50 PM
Kalau harga bitcoin pasti nanti sentuh 20JT pada waktunya. Tinggal hold aja BTC + nyumpulin biar banyak  Grin
kalo untuk 20 juta menurut ane cukup sulit gan . sekitar 15 juta selama halving adalah hal yang cukup raasional . kenaikan bitcoin kedepannya bisa secara cepat . mungkin hanya beberapa hari sudah sangat signifikan .

Barusan saya liat turun di bitcoin.co.id 8.8jt an mau deket halving kok malah turun ya harusnyakan naik banyak yang hold
apa ini cuma ide cukung buat panik lalu di tampung semua
Makin turun gan . Di exchange luar malah rata rata ada dikisaran 8.5 jutaan .  Bisa jadi akibat banyak yang melakukan hold sehingga aktivitas market sepi . Ditambah ketika harga turun kebanyakan user yang melakukan hold tersebut panik ketika  melihat harga bitcoin turun. Sehingga harga bitcoin semakin tergerus terus.
harga bitcoin terus longsor gan  . di vip saja sudah menyentuh 8.500.000 . exchange luar sudah 8.100.000 an . yang sekarang tidak buka exchange dan ketiduran pasti nanti pas sahur bisa shock . penurunan lebih dari 1 juta selama satu hari ini .
2034  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Open]GiveAways Uttaran 4 on: June 22, 2016, 03:34:52 PM
yang msh open pertandingan aa aja ni ?
semua pertandingan sudah beres gan . telat masuk thread .

hasil akhir :

Northern Ireland   VS  Germany 0-1
Ukraine   VS  Poland 0-1
Croatia   VS  Spain 2-1
Czech   VS  Turkey 0-2

2035  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Ane minta saran gan on: June 22, 2016, 03:30:24 PM

Jadi sistemnya seperti tokopedia/bukalapak (agan bisa buka lapak sendiri, jual barang" yg mau dijual buat dapetin bitcoin)
pake satuan rupiah, tapi otomatis terconvert ke satuan btc realtime pada saat buyer checkout/membayar.

Kalo cuma ane yang jual, sama aja seperti toko online biasa, ane aja yang untung, ane maunya sih gini kita sama" untung,
misalkan agan masih jual/beli secara tradisional kan rawan tuh kena tipu, misalkan seperti jual beli di FB
nah peran kita disini mau menawarkan jual beli yang aman sentosa,
karena penjual dan pembeli kita amankan dengan jasa escrow (rencanax sih gratis)

Jadi seperti itu sistem penjualanx, sudah jelas apa belum gan? Grin
kalo memang seperti tokopedia berarti agan harus lebih selektif untuk mencari seller yang benar benar yakin. soalnya transaksi bitcoin saat ini masih belum dijamin hukumnya . kalo transaksi via rekening bank masih bisa diurus ke tindakan hukum . cari escrow yang juga bisa dipercaya . pasti nilai uang yang diurus tidak sedikit  Grin
2036  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price rise is over on: June 22, 2016, 03:07:52 PM
bitcoin prices have now decreased significantly. I did not fully understand the causes of this decline. Now some of my friends have experienced substantial losses .but I still believe that prices will rise further bitcoin.
2037  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [New Thread] Info Signature Campaign | 29 Mei 2016 on: June 22, 2016, 02:41:45 PM
Jika melihat harga bitcoin sekarang maka seharusnya rates pembayaran dari secondtrade dinaikan.  Kita lihat apakah benar benar bahwa secondtrade menerapkan pembayaran mereka dengan patokan mata uang dollar.
kita lihat saja gan  kalo misalkan tetap sama dari sebelumya itu merugikan kita  Sad . btw sekarang adakah signature campaign yang mudah persyaratannya seperti secondtrade ? kalo bitvest gimana gan ? ada yang bisa berbagi pengalamannya ?
2038  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Ane minta saran gan on: June 22, 2016, 02:32:28 PM
Ide yang bagus gan . Jika pembayaran via bitcoin tentuny ini akan membuat para bitcoiners indonesia mudah untuk melakukan transaksi .  Sistemnya bisa menggunakan rates bitcoin secara realtime. Yang terpenting adalah bagaimana untuk memasukan seller yang benar benar terpercaya.

Kami akan mencoba memakai rate vip.bitcoin.co.id, sehingga harga barang bisa ditentukan menggunakan rupiah,
Mengenai seller, maupun pembeli, kami akan meminimalkan kasus penipuan melalui sistem escrow dan sistem reputasi.
Terima kasih sarannya gan  Grin

satu lagi gan bisa ditambahkan .kecepatan transaksi . system harus otomatis , jangan menggunakan system manual. karena beberapa kelemahan e-commerce sekarang kadang konfirmasi penerimaan dana transfer itu agak lama . ditambah biaya admin fee yang diterapkan harus bisa diminimalkan .

Ya kami usahakan transaksi di web kami dengan kecepatan tinggi, karena sistemx menggunakan bitcoin, maka perlu minimal 1 konfirmasi,
biaya fee tentu bisa lebih minimal, Terima kasih sarannya gan  Grin
btw , system penjualannya seperti apa gan ?  kalo mau lebih nyaman mendingan agan aja yang jualnya . jadi seller cuman ada satu dan pasti itu akan membuat para buyer lebih percaya .  Grin
2039  Economy / Economics / Re: Will the world Economy Collapse this year? on: June 22, 2016, 02:30:52 PM
I think it will not. Now some countries are experiencing kenaika and developed so rapidly and well the economy will be good and be better than before. bitcoin will become larger and outstanding.
2040  Economy / Services / Re: INCREASED PAYOUT(7/13) ۩۞۩ secondstrade.com ★signature campaign★upto0.00051/post on: June 20, 2016, 11:44:40 PM
Another decrease in rate again..
but why? Btc price for now is going down,then why op decreases again the rate.

This is not favorable for us. but all this is a decision that should be respected. we as participants must comply with any regulations made by the organizer. I was pretty disappointed, but I remain grateful with what I can.

I would suggest that secondtrade decrease the number of participants compared to lower the price paid. many users here who expect the same. may be taken into consideration. thanks.

but what judgement that the owner can be use if is going to decrease participants?. What if lets just say  that almost all of us is very active in posting
and all of us are posting good quality posts? who will be remove and who's participants will stay to this campaign?

the OP is basing his pay rate to the price of btc in dollars, since btc price is over $700 he is constantly decreasing
his rate to match the previous amount that he pays in dollars.
yes benchmark payment now is the US dollar. however the price of bitcoin in exchange we will still get the same results. for sr .member as I appreciated 0.3 USD per post I made. and it will not change if the price of bitcoin has increased even up to 1000USD.
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