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2021  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why I'm a Factom Skeptic "Marty jones" @reddit on: December 01, 2016, 12:28:50 AM
2022  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto_2.0 / dump /{ data } on: December 01, 2016, 12:22:55 AM
Not me but a guy named "Marty jones" @reddit posted this,

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I'm open to a change of opinion, but have yet to find convincing evidence that Factom offers features that can't be accomplished solely with the Bitcoin blockchain, for only the cost of a Bitcoin transaction. This subreddit has a number of true believers who follow the company closely, so maybe one of you could show me what, if anything, I'm missing about Factom and why exactly the company demanded a +$20m valuation in it's most recent funding round.

Issues with Factom:

Stuffing a bunch of hashes of data into a merkle tree and outputting it on the Bitcoin blockchain is already possible today using OP_RETURN. Solutions such as Open Timestamps and Tierion already exist to this end; one of which is free.

32 federated servers and 32 audit servers using Proof of Authority to secure data entries will offer materially less security than the Bitcoin blockchain. Factom "chains" will be secured against tampering by no more than a few dozen servers at any time. Tamper prevention and reliably timestamped data entries are presumably the main goals of Factom's targeted customers; yet Factom adds nothing to those ends over what you get from using the Bitcoin blockchain.

The business model has no "moat" against competition. If it costs a customer 1/10th of a penny to make an entry using Factom, and the product is useful for some reason I've failed to see, a competitor will bring to the market a solution that costs 1/11th of a penny. A fierce competitor will elect not 32, but 33 servers to the federation, thereby "decentralizing" the product even further.

EDIT: I'm impressed with how quickly those in this thread stopped responding to my actual arguments in order to accuse me of trolling and market manipulation. Confirmation bias is strong in this community.

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I wont copy and paste what all people replyed, ill leave that to them.


A good project will have haters/doubters but this topic should bring more clarification about FCT.


2023  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What the Fuck is Wrong with all Coinz ? ? ? ? ? on: November 30, 2016, 04:58:56 PM
What's wrong is that they jist too damn many of them!  The number of people in crypro isn't rising nearly as fast as the number of coins that git shat out.  It's like diarrhoea city all up on Yobit if you been there lately.  Ain't nobody gonna use all them coins.  Ever.

http://barfblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/blame_canada.jpg

It's like diarrhoea city all up on Yobit.  Ain't nobody gonna use all them coins.  Ever.
It's like diarrhoea city all up on Yobit.  Ain't nobody gonna use all them coins.  Ever.
It's like diarrhoea city all up on Yobit.  Ain't nobody gonna use all them coins.  Ever.
It's like diarrhoea city all up on Yobit.  Ain't nobody gonna use all them coins.  Ever.

TQ
Huge Black Woman

i agree  Grin
2024  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What the Fuck is Wrong with all Coinz ? ? ? ? ? on: November 30, 2016, 04:54:26 PM
rabble
rabble
rabble

-said some n00b


2025  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: VOX 01december 2016 00:01 on: November 30, 2016, 04:50:27 PM
DOA

see premine
see no emissions left to maintain .Net
see dev team

other than thoses FACTs
thnks n00b account
great info  Grin

Important announcement about Voxelus and The Voxel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_la3aYjSde0

I was rather disappointed that the video wasn't Rick Astley :/

i came
to say
the same  Cheesy
2026  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Decentralised-Liquidity Exchange -- 'D-L-Ex' on: November 30, 2016, 04:09:33 PM
cost to OPERATE ledger / 24HRs
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1698862.msg17036346#msg17036346

$UNO

runs about $4/day

**it is a bank ... or better yet ... it is a near instant transnational credit union (paying gains per share) ... that has  $4/day cost of operation**
2027  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoin emission comparison on: November 30, 2016, 03:56:48 PM
coin   daily emission (USD equivalent)  cost to OPERATE ledger / 24HRs
BTC   $1,326,745.80
ZEC   $366,080.67
ETH   $253,015.20
XMR   $110,095.67
LTC   $56,272.46
ETC   $22,488.45
DASH   $10,165.25
GAME   $4,354.75
DOGE   $3,152.58
PPC   $2,383.31
NLG   $2,268.41
DGB   $1,424.66
NMC   $740.62
FTC   $668.47
NVC   $573.70
WDC   $356.74
WBB   $291.95
FLO   $200.42
START   $178.31
MEC   $106.92
AUR   $86.36
MUE   $68.06
GLD   $44.01
CSC   $41.57
DMD   $38.67
QTL   $8.98
ZET   $7.56
SXC   $5.44
EMD   $0.83
CANN   $0.01

FTFY
2028  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoin emission comparison on: November 30, 2016, 03:40:53 PM
re: Z

okay MATH alone just crushed any reason to HODL;  (60x inflation of the 2nd highest) = insane @ level batshit stuff
nevermind the 'pay the dev' coded in; cha-ching! or Kah-Cung!
yes .. i fully get it is a game to capture the base line MC by black chip players

no sympathy for the victoms, how many variations of premine can we invent before the lesson is learn't?

at least it is a reprive from the ICO maddness (see premine=100%)
2029  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SteemFest and Upcoming Steem Hard Fork on: November 30, 2016, 03:35:32 PM
the killer app is ...

reddit/steemit + uncensorable unstoppable + $BD(what is the millennialz bank account?)

fuck the STEEM ... it is just like fiat ... ever inflating (only the dumb invest/hold) ... it is used to fuel the machine
see the forest thru the trees

this fork just re-enforces the scammy insider whales dominance ... the price crash is a GOOD THING!
2030  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update to 0.10 Wallet - Merge Mine w/BTC! on: November 30, 2016, 03:27:43 PM
nat
that last line is PURE SCIENCE
good to see you still in the fold ... futuristic biotech ... tell me more Wink

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perhaps the SMARTest bit of info i've seen posted in months
coin emission comparison
sees title
thinks 'That's SMART coin Observer material'

tee hee



coindaily emission (USD equivalent)
BTC$1,326,745.80
ZEC$366,080.67
ETH$253,015.20
XMR$110,095.67
LTC$56,272.46
ETC$22,488.45
DASH$10,165.25
GAME$4,354.75
DOGE$3,152.58
PPC$2,383.31
NLG$2,268.41
DGB$1,424.66
NMC$740.62
FTC$668.47
NVC$573.70
WDC$356.74
WBB$291.95
FLO$200.42
START$178.31
MEC$106.92
AUR$86.36
MUE$68.06
GLD$44.01
CSC$41.57
DMD$38.67
QTL$8.98
ZET$7.56
SXC$5.44
EMD$0.83
CANN$0.01





coinyearly emission percentage
ZEC1,885.98%
XMR37.54%
WBB32.14%
NVC32.10%
MUE29.69%
FTC29.32%
DGB26.40%
WDC17.34%
FLO15.87%
PPC14.91%
GAME14.87%
ETC12.18%
ETH12.17%
START11.66%
LTC10.81%
NMC8.92%
MEC7.99%
NLG6.26%
DASH5.90%
SXC5.52%
DOGE4.91%
EMD4.20%
BTC4.10%
QTL3.97%
DMD3.40%
AUR3.04%
CSC2.72%
GLD2.64%
ZET0.64%
CANN0.00%


(Data for Nov 29, 2016)


steering the wheel since 2013
UNO


focus is a center point
bof us?
2031  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SMART Coin Observer on: November 30, 2016, 03:25:01 PM
sees title
thinks 'That's SMART coin Observer material'

tee hee



coindaily emission (USD equivalent)
BTC$1,326,745.80
ZEC$366,080.67
ETH$253,015.20
XMR$110,095.67
LTC$56,272.46
ETC$22,488.45
DASH$10,165.25
GAME$4,354.75
DOGE$3,152.58
PPC$2,383.31
NLG$2,268.41
DGB$1,424.66
NMC$740.62
FTC$668.47
NVC$573.70
WDC$356.74
WBB$291.95
FLO$200.42
START$178.31
MEC$106.92
AUR$86.36
MUE$68.06
GLD$44.01
CSC$41.57
DMD$38.67
QTL$8.98
ZET$7.56
SXC$5.44
EMD$0.83
CANN$0.01





coinyearly emission percentage
ZEC1,885.98%
XMR37.54%
WBB32.14%
NVC32.10%
MUE29.69%
FTC29.32%
DGB26.40%
WDC17.34%
FLO15.87%
PPC14.91%
GAME14.87%
ETC12.18%
ETH12.17%
START11.66%
LTC10.81%
NMC8.92%
MEC7.99%
NLG6.26%
DASH5.90%
SXC5.52%
DOGE4.91%
EMD4.20%
BTC4.10%
QTL3.97%
DMD3.40%
AUR3.04%
CSC2.72%
GLD2.64%
ZET0.64%
UNO0.17%
CANN0.00%


(Data for Nov 29, 2016)

2032  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PLEASE stop trying to kill IXCoin on: November 30, 2016, 03:11:05 PM
for the love of Vlad Vlad
i will cease Smiley
2033  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ◥◣ anon list ◥◣ by TALK on: November 30, 2016, 03:08:09 PM
Top 5 ?

top 3 would be:

XMR
DASH
something-cash
2034  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / ◥◣ anon list ◥◣ by TALK on: November 30, 2016, 03:07:23 PM
like to have a list of all the ANONs

cryptonote / zerocoins just procreated like Duck-Rabbits ... let a few of the bunny quacks die off before refining this list:

Aeon (AEON)    listed    2014-06    cryptonote
Anoncoin (ANC)    listed    2013-06    i2p tor
Bata (BTA)            listed    2015-05    i2p tor
Boolberry (BBR)    listed    2014-04    cryptonote
Bytecoin (BCN)    listed    2014-03    cryptonote
Cloak (CLOAK)    listed    2014-05    cloak
Darkcoin (DARK)    listed    2015-03    dark
Dash (DASH)    listed    2014-01    dash
DogeCoinDark (DOGED)    listed    2014-10    i2p tor
DarkShibe (DSB)    listed    2014-10    stealth messaging
Dashcoin (DSH)    listed    2014-07    cryptonote
Fantomcoin (FCN)    listed    2014-05    cryptonote
Fibrecoin (FIBRE)    listed    2014-08    tor dark
Flaxcoin (FLAX)    listed    2015-06    dark
HansaCoin (HANSA)        2015-01    stealth addresses stealth messaging
Millennium (MIL)    listed    2015-03    delegate
Moneta (MONET)    listed    2015-10    zerocoin
Navajo (NAV)    listed    2014-07    delegate
NTXcoin (NTX)    listed    2014-05    nxt
Razor (RZR)    listed    2014-06    tor
ShadowC (SDC)    listed    2014-07    shadow
Sling (SLING)    listed    2015-04    dark
Solecoin (SOLE)    listed    2014-08    aim
SonicScrewdrivercoin (SSD)    listed    2014-08    tor stealth messaging vortex
Supercoin (SUPER)    listed    2014-05    super
FedoraCoin (TIPS)    listed    2013-12    mixer
Transfercoin (TX)    listed    2015-08    tor dark https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1203975.0
Vanillacoin (VNL)    listed    2014-12    secured protocol
Vertcoin (VTC)    listed    2013-01    stealth addresses
Counterparty (XCP)    listed    2014-02    counterparty
duckNote (XDN)    listed    2014-05    cryptonote
Monero (XMR)    listed    2014-04    cryptonote
Stealthcoin (XST)    listed    2014-07    tor stealthsend stealthtext

sauce: https://minkiz.co/coin/anon

edit:
NUC  tor
bost tor  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=601965.0 http://explorer.bost.link/ 10% 11.7M
tri ...tor  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=820103.0 33%
vanilla/monero https://blog.okturtles.com/2016/03/the-zcash-catch/

2035  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ◥◣ TALK◥◣ ★★ 15% APR ★★ uᴉoɔʇᴉq Community Coin ✪BϾϾ✪ on: November 30, 2016, 02:11:39 PM
Exchange Status
alcurex  Online     
CoinExchangeOnline
CryptopiaOnline
NovaExchangeOnline
SouthXchangeOnline
Yobit Do not use Yobit     

 Cool


2036  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ◥◣ TALK◥◣ ★★ 15% APR ★★ uᴉoɔʇᴉq Community Coin ✪BϾϾ✪ on: November 30, 2016, 02:07:46 PM
https://revex.co/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/revex52.png
https://revex.co/cryptocurrency-reviews/
2037  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ◥◣ TALK◥◣ ★★ 15% APR ★★ uᴉoɔʇᴉq Community Coin ✪BϾϾ✪ on: November 30, 2016, 02:03:45 PM
Guys, apparently my wallet is stuck... It is fully functional,fully synchronized but no stakes!



My last stake was 4 months ago!

WTF?  Huh Huh

I'm using nvc-v0.5.8-81-g63c3d37-bdb-gcc

Any ideas?
2038  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] official NovaCoin thread - the original PoS+scrypt coin. --POOL LIST-- on: November 30, 2016, 02:03:16 PM
updating
suggested POS coins by TALK community
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864994.msg17030173#msg17030173

community rep, needed to stop by and say 'hello world'

peterI of liberland around?
2039  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [POT]PotCoin - Banking for the Legal Cannabis Industry ✦ ✦ ✦Grow With Us ✦ ✦ ✦ on: November 30, 2016, 02:02:07 PM
updating
suggested POS coins by TALK community
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864994.msg17030173#msg17030173

POT community rep, needed to stop by and say 'hello world'
2040  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★★ PandaCoin [PND] ★★★ New devs, old community ★ 100,000 PND burned every day on: November 30, 2016, 01:36:02 PM
Thanks for keeping our PND on the TALK community recommended list. I would be honored to help with being Pandacoin's TALK community representative.

cool!
just pay attention to PND, and I will stop by again in the Fall Wink

back PND still on the TALK list of cool POS

i'm nominating jommy99 RJF19 and kiklo as formal ambassadors to the POS chamber rep'n PND Wink
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