I've done even better in previous seasons. Last year I was only about £500 profit but the ones before that were £1k plus and over £3k before that. Think I was over £5k profit on the 2014 World Cup and following Premier League season combined (though I won over £500 on the opening game when Brazil won 3-1 and I got the correct score and Neymar to score). I strictly stick to three folds for football. Any more and you're unlikely to win. I usually play Skybet's enhanced Saturday offer as well and it usually comes in more often or not. Sometimes I might get experimental with my free £5 bet though. Maybe stick a draw or two in on the games that I can't call.

Won again last night with the Skybet boosts:



Only £50 profit but better than nothing.


I've thought about going higher stakes but don't want to go to crazy. Obviously the higher the stake the bigger the win but also bigger the loss. I could quickly lose my bank roll if I'm doing those stakes, but given my winning history going higher odds would make sense, though statistically my luck can't last forever. Maybe I'll see how much I have in my bankroll at the end of the season and move up to £100 bets or something. It's all profit so far so even if I lose that I'm still up. Don't want to throw it all away though.


Kinda already explained it. I tend to stick to threefolds on the favourites at odds of 4-5/1 or more. They obviously don't always win but I'm usually up over the month and sometimes I hit winning streaks where I'm 3-500 up a month. Sticking to a limit also helps. I usually do £25 stakes every week though double when Champions League is on. Look out for Skybet's enhanced accumulators. As above, they give you an option of going with the draw and other team winning on the closer matches which is sometimes good to put on to cover your bases. Betting £25 a week will also get you a free bet which gives you a chance to try get your money back at least or even more if you go experimental. Won a few hundred quid a couple of times from my free bets.


I wouldn't back West Ham away. Maybe at home, but those sorts of games I tend to go for draws.

I'm glad Liverpool won as I want them to win the title, but that late goal cost me a perfect score  .


What's wrong with accumulators? I win most of my money on three folds. I usually put £25 on them and look for minimum odds of 4/1.
Just hit over £1k profit in the past 12 months recently:



I usually do much better as well. The only tournaments I've ever lost money on so far are the the last Euros and World Cup. Only lost my £100 bankroll which was all profit from previous seasons so still no losses in the grand scheme of things.

I wonder how many people are actually submitting their photos here. Some of them definitely seem non-ironic.




Excuse me, stop misgendering. There are over 71 genders.





I'm not sure what these guys are trying to achieve here.

Out of all the posts they could merit why would they merit that one? Doesn't make any sense. At least make an attempt to hide the abuse. I guess this is one downside of requiring x amount of merit to be able to join a campaign. On the face of it it's a good thing, but not really if someone just accepts anyone as long as they have the x amount of merit. That's why campaign managers should be vetting their applicants. If that user received all their merit within the last day or two of applying and for shitposts then that should set alarm bells going. People's post history should still be looked at regardless of how much merit they've got.


If you read the thread you would see there's several pieces of evidence tying them together, thus proving the abuse in this case.

I don't think we should be giving out ranks just because people ask for them. That would kind of defeat the whole purpose of them in the first place. Merit is hard to get but at least it's an achievement when you do. Before the merit system the ranks only meant you've been here x amount of time and it was because of that that people were abusing the system and farming accounts in their thousands. Now ranks actually mean something.

With that being said, I've been pushing for people to be able to purchase the benefits of some of the higher ranks via more donator titles because merit is rather difficult to achieve consistently and in huge amounts and people still sell accounts and it's still big business, but you wouldn't be able to buy the rank title directly, but an equivalent ie Senior Member = Silver Member & Legendary Member = Gold Member etc.


Exactly. People put too much emphasis on ranks. If I see some random Legendary account pop up that I've never really seen before then I usually have reason to distrust them more than anything (or be suspicious of them at least).


I'd say reputation rather than just green trust. Anyone can get green trust if they're smart and do deals with the right people, and that's why reputation is worth more than anything. If your name means something around here then people are more likely to trust you. A familiar face and someone who is active in helping the community builds their reputation over time and that's how it should be.

Only if you're also willing to jump in his grave.

Trust should absolutely be shown to non-registered users. Far too many people are being scammed day after day even though some users have got dozens of negative feedback. Showing trust would prevent a lot of these users from being scammed in the first place. I also think we should have a landing page that warns users when they click on external links and displays a warning message about the dangers of buying from autobuy links and not using escrow and so on.


But a lot of people will also miss out on things being sold on this board. I know the majority of marketplace hits from google are probably for dodgy stuff, but there's a lot of genuine sellers too that might miss out if google isn't indexing the results.[/list]

Well we'll have to agree to disagree. All we have is one word against the other.


What bad things? You're starting to sound like mday again.


There's nothing wrong with being born in Bangladesh. That's just one other thing you two have in common.


I'm not angry and I didn't say you were all bad.


Not sure why this is relevant.


Maybe one day I will. Maybe I can lodge with mday  .


There is no concrete proof or smoking gun, but it's a theory based on multiple pieces of evidence or coincidences. People can make their own mind up on whether they are the same or not.


As suchmoon said, read their feedbacks.

Well you kind of need one to have the other here, but I think money is a big part of it. His whole bread and butter before this forum seems to have been promoting ponzis to people (and it probably still is to be honest). That says a lot about him, but maybe he wanted to go legit. Earning money via sigs is much easier than trying to flog ponzis to greedy idiots who just want to get rich quick (though you can do both). Money from a campaign like Chipmixer is probably a decent wage in his country and I'm sure he'd rather earn from that than do dodgy shit. This forum is potentially a huge source of income for people so its in many's interest to have a high-ranking account in good standing. The more reputable you are here the more job opportunities naturally come your way and the more money you're entrusted with, but when you get negative feedback that usually throws a spanner in the works.


What were you randomly checking that for?


Nobody is going to buy this and I don't believe you're not an alt of someone or that you two don't know each other. If mday "knows" s_therapist then he almost certainly knows of you too. He's probably learned not to admit that though.

Nah, I'm not on this one.

How did you find this thread? How did you know I was a mod? Busted! If you're not an alt of mdayonliner or S_Therapist then who are you an alt of? You're clearly not a brand new user here as you had knowledge of lauda and forum drama from only your second post.

In my opinion, you personally seem to have two very different types of writing. One is quite broken and then the next you have no issues at all (especially when you're seemingly trying to get that merit), and I suspect you're doing this just to try make yourselves look different so you have something to point to to explain away the other similarities, but when there are numerous other fairly unique similarities it's hard to ignore. In my first post here there are several things that tie you together. Then there was the things others brought up like capitalising the A in Advance and you also reappear to comment on lauda the day he leaves negative on S_therapist. mdayonliner then merits you the exact amount of merits you need to rank up and you then immediately join a campaign whilst he disappears. Too fishy to me.

That's very nicely spotted and is obviously another huge coincidence. One that is very hard to ignore.


I think he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't at this point. We all know he's lying about certain things but I don't think he's going to admit that. I'd like him to come clean or clarify certain things but I doubt he will, especially if it makes any of my accusations right. I don't think he should abandon his account either. Having a couple of negative feedbacks isn't the be all and end all of the account here, especially since he hasn't got any that make him out to be a terrible scammer or anything. In fact, he's still on signature campaigns on both of the accounts so you can clearly still earn here as well. I think the problem is he wants to be one of the big players on one of the big boy campaigns and for that you need a pretty impeccable record both in merit and post quality and I think it's why he's desperate to start afresh, but I think it's going to be fairly easy to spot him time and time again. I think his biggest mistake was "admitting" he knew s_therapist in real life, which I think he just came up with on the spur of the moment to try explain away the similarities (which obviously nobody is buying). Maybe there's possibly even a glimmer of truth to it though and the account technically isn't his but he's made content for it to post in order to gain merits and hence why it walks, talks and acts like him in multiple ways (which for the record I don't believe). I did actually ask him if he's ever made content for that account but he never answered, probably because it would contradict him not knowing about it in the first place.


It looks like he's gone full throttle trying to grab as much merit as he can the last couple of days:




I'm sure he'll be back anyway. mdayonliner said the same thing before when he abandoned the account and then s-therapist myseriously took over.

I was thinking a special Staff coin would be cool and a nice gesture  .

Maybe one for the top ten merited users also:



Totally not biased or anything.

I haven't read through all this thread yet so I don't know what's been suggested, but maybe a good idea would be to hold some sort of charity raffle for them. That could generate a lot of money and at least go to some good causes.

Sadly a signed message isn't definitive proof these days, but it's better than nothing, especially as not being able to provide one is a huge giveaway (though not exactly definitive in itself either).


I don't think he wants this to happen but this is obviously just a way to test the validity of that address. If someone else owns it then that user would be very reluctant to send money to it as the chances the money would disappear would be very high, though obviously he was being factitious, but I suppose you could say it was the users fault if he did in fact lose his money this way.

Goat is a new one. But do you know what GOAT is an acronym of? Greatest Of All Time.  


You didn't provide any evidences, just a whole load of inconsequential rubbish and a sobstory, but I already addressed them in that thread, but maybe it's a case of if you keep repeating it then maybe one day you will actually believe it. Everyone else thinks the likelihood of you two being the same is very strong. Just not you. These were two completely separate and random accounts until you finally confessed to "knowing" the other. There are tens of thousand of accounts here and I spotted two real life friends. That's like me picking two marbles out of a pool of tens of thousands and those marbles somehow turn out to be best friends in real life. Odds are staggering. Those two marbles even share many same characteristics. Some say they're also identical twins but we can't prove it without a DNA test which is impossible, sadly.


Because you're stupid? For me to fully understand that logic I would have to try put myself into the mind of an idiot, which is impossible. That account was doing great merit-wise likely because you knew exactly the sort of threads to create and where to make them to get merit and I think it would have done a lot better over time once you realised you could siphon off merit to it and build it up to a nice respectable rank and reputation very quickly. I think then it would have become mdayonliner version 2.0 so you could continue your original vision here. I think you were probably just testing the waters with that one merit. Send one merit and see if anyone says anything. If they didn't then the coast is clear and I'm sure he would have then quickly become your best merit pal. I'd already publicly told you that I knew you had an alt here and you didn't believe me asking for proof. I didn't give you it and you probably thought I was bluffing and got cocky. I think a better question to ask would be why didn't you know what account your real life friend has here?

The funny thing is, that Retina account is following in the exact same footsteps as both you and especially S_therapist which is why they stand out so much. It's making the same sort of faux-naive yet helpful threads and posting in the same way. mdayonliner version 3.0 in the making.


Nope. It's your silly brain that comes out with silly twisted logic and mental gymnastics. It would have been very silly of you to send a lot of merit to your own account in one go because you know full well that it would draw a lot of attention to it. It would be much better to launder merit to that account over time to avoid detection, so as you can see there's nothing wrong with my brain and it's working fully functionally taking all aspects into consideration. My mind can't be that bad if I can spot similarities between "friends" merely by text and composition. I should probably get a job with the FBI with these profiling and detective skills.


I don't think you thought about it that much or panicked when you knew you were exposed. You claiming you are just friends is the exact same as the idiots who claim it's not them but their wife/sister/flatmate/retarded cousin when they've been caught out. You can keep saying it but it doesn't make it true. You're just clinging to the fact that there's no blockchain or other smoking gun evidence as if that invalidates everything else, but when something walks, talks, shits and quacks like a duck then it's probably a mdayonliner.


I highly doubt it. Why will everyone suddenly come around to it over time? What could possibly be released that will vindicate you?

And it's you that keep claiming I know everything so it's clearly only you that thinks I know everything (which would make sense if I spotted your alts time and time again). I thank you for the compliment, but I probably do know more than what you wanted me to about this situation and hence why you're so annoyed. All these accounts you keep creating to try start afresh just backfire on you.


Well I was surprised. Let me ask you this. If that account isn't you, do you think it's another alt of s_therapist (who for arguments sake we'll say definitely isn't you)?


Idiots make mistakes. You did it the first time and you can do it again, but I do find it pretty remarkable that someone would be that stupid, though it's obviously harder for people with limited intelligence to disguise their tracks. Is your "real life friend" far less intelligent than you or even mentally deficient in some way? Maybe that would explain it. Let's not forget that it's not just the old habits you would have had to hide but even new ones that we previously didn't spot so you would have no idea to even try disguise. I mean, how do you explain this:


I mean, sure, it could be a coincidence, but is that format common practice in Bangladesh? It's a very unique thing to do. These sorts of things are habits that are very hard to break, even when you're purposely trying to disguise yourself. People can't correct mistakes they're unaware of and habits are hard to break. I remember in the Silk Road case one of the undercover agents actually signed off a message with his real name because that's obviously what he was used to doing in real life and he fucked up.  


No it isn't. I think you wanted it to be yours though.


And this is exactly the same for me. It's great I can make some extra money here and get more of the thing I love and believe in, but I think the real issue here comes down to your jealousy and envy. You wanted to be a big dog here. You wanted to earn the trust and respect of the community so you could be given access to a lot more money and earning opportunities, but that didn't work out for you.


Obsessed much? You were complaining about me following you but this is some stalkerish accounting you've been doing, but this further illustrates my point that this is more about your issues with money and a healthy sprinkling of jealousy and envy. Why even bring this up if there's nothing wrong with it? It's certainly not relevant to the discussion or argument and is a complete ad hominem. You want all these above things so bad, but you never got them and you blame this all on me. I think you see this forum more as a cash cow than I do and almost certainly need it more than me. Speaking of signature campaigns and multiple accounts, it's funny how you give a certain user the exact merit he needs and when he gets it he jumps straight on to a campaign:


Ka-ching.


Nobody is saying you haven't contributed, but I don't believe your story and I think they're bare-faced lies. People are buying my story because they can look at the facts objectively. From an outsider all the coincidences add up, just not to you for obvious reasons. An unbiased mind can see the picture though.


Theymos isn't going to look into this and you know it and as I've said before it's beside the point because you also know that this info would not be definite proof of anything. Are you saying that if my IPs are different from both my accounts then that's proof they're not mine? Don't be silly.


Somehow I doubt this.

He's still going to be like "coincidence!" but coincidences obviously start to add up. I actually started to wonder if he was purposely posting that way on Retina in the hopes that I would see it and bring it up because it's too obvious. I would be surprised that even he could be so stupid to keep typing the same way, but never underestimate how stupid people can be. The only thing that is missing here is me being called hilari by him, but I doubt he would have been that stupid/obvious.


I mean, what are the odds of this happening?

Mday: "but there's no proof":



But maybe he's just another user "inspired" by the great mdayonliner as we all know he is a hugely influential figure in the Bengali community and everybody wants to be like him.

Are we sure this is the original marcotheminer? I've only skimmed the thread but he was pretty inactive from about 2016 and has only really recently started up again, especially with the loans. Has a signed message been provide from some old addresses?


Jeeze, you really do have a hard-on for me. It was really fun for me to sit back and watch you run around desperately trying to get people to tag me merely for not removing the word 'Cloudbet' from the premier league pool when all the shenanigans was going on. You should read what you've just written a few times because I actually find great irony and hypocrisy in this post as you seriously contradict yourself. I'll explain why. You yourself were quick to want Cloudbet be painted with negative feedback and I think one of the main reasons why was because you knew I was running a Cloudbet-sponsored pool so that would be one avenue you could use to beat off to in an attempt to try 'get' me. I followed the situation closely but unlike the lynch mob I wasn't ready to throw them under the bus straight away because I thought there was a good chance the scam accuser was either lying or there was something fishy going on and it certainly wasn't apparent what was actually happening or that Cloubet were doing something dodgy nor did I feel like me running a pool merely with the word 'Cloudbet' in front of it was going to do much damage in this situation even if the worst turned out to be true, but I was waiting for all the facts, unlike you who wanted them painted red asap because it was in your interests to. In fact, it later transpired that Cloudbet was doing the good thing by delaying payment because they could see something fishy was going on and didn't add up right and someone else was trying to claim the money and that was later admitted by the original claimant and rightful owner of the money. If you had gotten your way and Cloudbet panicked and acquiesced to the demands of the red-painting lynch mob and just immediately sent the money back to the person who asked for it so the community didn't turn against them and ruin their rep forever then he would have likely run off with it and that would have been ok for you because chop chop, it had to be instant even though you didn't know all the facts. Imagine if that had happened and a scammer got all that money just because they didn't want their reputation ruined by the baying mob here hungry for blood instead of waiting for all the facts and research to have been done to make sure the money was actually going to the right person. What would have happened then. Would you have been rallying for them to send another 330 btc to the rightful owner? You were thinking with your dick and you should wait for the facts first before you blow your load, especially when all you really wanted from the situation was it diverted on to me.

Not at all. I, like most others, strongly suspect that it's you or you at least had something to do with the account. That much is clear as presented in the op of my original thread.


No. I'm saying it's a bullshit excuse. It's not my alt but it's my friend but a friend account that I didn't know about. C'mon. That was likely just the excuse you came up with in the spur of the moment to try wriggle out of the blatant merit abuse. I really don't think you thought it through (or you're just an idiot). It's laughable and is the bitcointalk equivalent to "the dog ate my homework" excuse. I mean, the teacher can't prove that your dog didn't eat it but it's almost certainly bullshit and it's that tiny bit of doubt and burden of proof that you desperately try cling to but nobody is buying it despite you repeatedly trying to sell it.


Well the issue here is that it looks like your alt doesn't it. Or an alt of s_therapist (who obviously isn't you /sarcasm). Beside, it's still merit abuse if you merit your friend or wife or dog that ate your homework. Though of course you went with the ridiculously unbelievable excuse that he's your friend but you just didn't know it yet to try avoid that caveat.


See the original thread about you. There's the exposure. That same evidence now applies to this user who is also posting exactly like you and s_therapist did. If s_therapist is your "friend" the Retina almost certainly is as well.


Everything I've ever accused you of has been presented with evidence. You stupidly tried to escrow a large amount of money. Fact. That is very untrustworthy behaviour. I never said you would 100% have run away with it. The feedback reflected that and is a warning to others of the sort of person they're dealing with here. A very stupid and naive one. Stupid and naive people shouldn't be trusted. The original thread about you listed numerous "coincidences" in your posting styles. Only they're not coincidences are they? These coincidences were also spotted by several other people completely independently. You then magically admit that the account isn't actually yours but you do know him in real life. Oh, what a coincidence. What are the odds of that? Astronomical.


I really don't care about you as much as you think I do. You really are irrelevant to me and you're just being paranoid and butthurt. If anyone is looking for things against the other it's you against me because you were even desperately posting multiple times and creating threads and messaging me and lauda with a furious hard-on to try get me to remove the cloudbet sponsorship when all the shenanigans was going on with them because you couldn't wait for the possibility of me getting some negative feedback from him or the community for advertising a possible shady site if I didn't remove it. Now that really is pathetic. I really don't follow you at all, but it's not hard to spot when someone else is stupidly making the exact same sort of posts as you in the same exact formats on the forum I browse almost daily. That's just something I come across being active on this board and certainly isn't something I actively look for. This is like some random person knocking on my door and asking why I'm following them when all I've done is see them through my window walk past my house day after day. You're just being paranoid, and as I said before I was willing to keep my findings to myself and leave you be, as were the several other people who also noticed it (and who you also claimed had grudges against you). Funny that isn't it. People who have something against you all agree to leave you in peace to build up another account and give you a second chance. Until the merit and sig spam abuse which was stepping over the line for me.


You clearly do care. Quite a lot. That much is self-evident. You've now just posted in that topic further proving you do care. Why would you even bother if you didn't? I mean, look at this thread. It's a thread you created for some bullshit butthurt reason which you should have just ignored and it would have gone away but you couldn't resist trying to play the victim and all it did was draw more attention to you. I'd known about that account for weeks and was happy to leave it be again yet this thread seemed like the perfect opportunity to bring it up, especially when it's unclear what account people were actually talking about.


And I'm saying I don't care or want your respect. That shouldn't be difficult to understand. Do you care if I don't respect you or that you never earned my respect? You saying you don't respect me is irrelevant. It's not a bullet you've fired at me nor a medal or qualification you've taken away. It's literally nothing. It's the equivalent of wanting respect from a idiot or a medal from a nobody. Completely worthless and irrelevant and I desire nor have a use for either and if you can't understand that then I'm sorry to say it's not me who's being the 'ignorant fool'.

What does anyone think about these new revelations:

As with the op, I suspected these two were one and the same for a couple of weeks now but sat on the info, but as you can see it's identical behaviour to the evidence presented in the op.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2508950  Retina

All the hallmarks of an alt here at least. New account, straight into Meta fishing for merits: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096181.msg49204705#msg49204705

Second post on the forum and already getting involved with a knowledge of Lauda and the drama surrounding her him? Woo-woo, call the alt police.

Snippy tilde snips:


Bengali:


Red arrows and boxes again:



mdayonliner talking to the user here:


Is this really another innocent case of someone trying to "imitate" the highly influential mdayonliner? Even though this is all exactly the same "evidence"/behaviour which brought them them to my attention before this is obviously almost certainly probably not an alt, but perhaps a "friend" of mdayonliner that he doesn't yet know about his account here because it's top secret, but he has probably met in real life and just doesn't know it yet  .

Also as was the case before, mdayonliner has now chosen to merit the account which just seems like guilty behaviour to me and if true is yet another case of merit abuse from him.

I really don't want or need your respect. That's like wanting respect from an ignorant child or a moron. Irrelevant. You're just annoyed that you got called out and certainly wouldn't let the fact that you got tagged for moronically trying to escrow huge sums of money go so if anyone has anything against anyone it's you against me. I also don't need to create another thread either because the info is already here, but I think I'll give the original one a bump to see what others think of the new revelations, but as we can see from the evidence I posted here that user is very likely and an alt of s-therapist and we all know who that user looks like and there's a whole host of trusted and respected users who could also see the similarities beforehand (and lets not forget the fact that you later admitted you "knew" that user... you know, like everyone always admits that it's their wife/husband/cousin/dog's account when they get caught). You meriting that user now just makes you look even more guilty like it did last time. It's like you just trying to go out in a blaze of glory because you known you've been exposed and now have nothing left to lose.