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March 28, 2019, 07:27:57 PM
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I believe anyone who isn't a spammer shouldn't be restricted by the Merit system.

A few days ago Loyce wrote the same thing in another thread and I had completely written a reply but I felt uneasy to post at that time.
Later, I thought to create a thread with the topic for myself as like tk808 posted this, but my uneasiness regarding the issue prevented me to create the thread as well.

I just want to ask the community only one question "why I should not rank to Legendary while I'm not a spammer"?
The Merit thing is really not working for me unless I make a post in meta (maximum merit I earned by posting in meta).

I'm not desperate for my rank up, I'm happy with my current rank. I am more interested to rank up with my efforts and qualifiedness.
I may be desperate for rank ups if I were senior or full member.

Once I thought to apply for Merit Source but my time prevented me.
I always take my jobs very seriously, no excuse for failing to do so unless there is a valid reason.
This is the reason I haven't applied, and of course, there was no guarantee that I could be selected as Merit Source.

However, the "Legendary" title is what everyone seeks and I'm not different here. My current activity is 910 and I may be a Legendary already.

Any suggestion shall be highly appreciated.
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March 28, 2019, 07:51:39 PM
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Admins of BTT, i'm requesting to become a legendary account. The merit system has failed, unless you're actively farming those merits on the Bitcoin sections specifically targeting the merit "whales," then reaching 500-1k merit is virtually impossible. I'm nearing 1k activity and before the grand shitcoin flood, that was sufficient enough to prove yourself to achieve that status.

I've served my time and assisted the Bitcointalk community immensely for the past 5 years, from my perspective/opinion. I've always stayed true to what these forums represent and the underlining ideologies that Bitcoin and blockchain was founded on.



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I'm not an avid Bitcoin poster, because it was (and still is) quite easy to understand Bitcoin, progress and etc. I read a lot of materials on these forums, but my value on Bitcoin is overshadowed by many of the older veterans of BTT. It's difficult to explain, but yeah. Take it or leave it, i appreciate the attention this thread received in minutes.

I have read your post in altcoins since I am not a BTC elitist as my signature shows.

I gave you 2 merits for this thread and 3 for your other thread.

I will effort to read more of you.

To those that ignore altcoins and openly admit that you do that you should realize the system needs more then just BTC and sha-256

I do multiple coins but mostly focus on LTC  + BTC

I mine alt coins with https://simplemining.net...
I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
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March 28, 2019, 08:33:46 PM
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Admins of BTT, i'm requesting to become a legendary account. The merit system has failed
You might contributed to the forum positively but I can assure you that the forum merit system actually don't fail because you're yet to have the minimum require merit (1000) to become a legendary account holder and I believe you ought to have know that without me telling you.





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March 29, 2019, 02:13:05 AM
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How I wish I can give you some of my merits, but, I'm doing bias stuff right now on my earned merits. I am sending my merits posted only on my local board, I want my local board to have enough merit circulation.
You are already doing a lot for the local board. As you know that you are the fastest one that could go to Hero Member, the activity should just catch up. That makes you a "Hero" of the Philippine Local board.

To be honest, my thinking of our local board is full of shits before. However, as time goes by, I can see that it has now some quality posters giving some light on that board, also, I can see that some of our Filipino non-local posters are now posting on that board. Sometimes I am surprised that a certain user is a Filipino and starting to post there. I know we have a long way to go there and I don't have enough merits to give, but I hope, even in my own little way of contributing and what I have started can come a long way. And you tk808 has a chance to proved to yourself that I can do it. A nobody Filipino did make a change, you can too.
In the long run, there would be more members who would be actively participating there. I think some members are good quality posters but not participating in Local thinking that "it's full of shit" like you said but when you start something, and an individual can make great things. Maybe there would be other opportunities that would come to our local board to more growth.

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March 29, 2019, 09:39:16 AM
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It's the culmination of having a louder voice and being associated with being "trusted." This is explicitly and infinitely more noticeable in altcoins section, again, where i primary post. Hero is great and i do carry significant weight when calling out scams, or bullshit (there's an infinite amount of it in altcoins).

Nope, some green trust is way more effective than the "legendary" status.

It's also something i always wanted to achieve on Bitcointalk, ever since the earlier days. I just feel like I've earned it, but again that's me who feels it, you don't have to necessarily agree with that. I understand it sounds like i want to be given something for free, but again, i truly feel like i've achieved it, even though it may not be immediately apparent or even noticeable.
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I'm not desperate for my rank up, I'm happy with my current rank. I am more interested to rank up with my efforts and qualifiedness.
I may be desperate for rank ups if I were senior or full member.


Do you realize the difference between trying to achieve something and playing an idle game where waiting for x time periods will grant you a higher level?

Yeah, it's pretty painful for some to see a Legendary with 2 earned merit over 20k posts and a Hero with 100 times more still being a Hero but maybe times will change and finally, Theymos will introduce merit decay for the airdropped merit.

Till then, wait and don't give up.
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March 29, 2019, 10:33:34 AM
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Yeah, it's pretty painful for some to see a Legendary with 2 earned merit over 20k posts and a Hero with 100 times more still being a Hero but maybe times will change and finally, Theymos will introduce merit decay for the airdropped merit.

Till then, wait and don't give up.
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Ranking up has always been activity dependent, no reason to do away with that now. A user can lose their rank if a lot of their comments, and therefore activity, is deleted.

Here's a famous example:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=126291

1000 merits and 13 activity, lol.

You're probably one of the unlucky ones who got screwed by not becoming a Legendary before the Merit system began, but you're almost there!

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March 29, 2019, 11:31:35 AM
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I've learnt that the ones who get the most merit are the ones who give out the mist (weighted towards merit sources, hmmm) and the ones posting in meta mostly. The bitcoin and tech support boards do badly. Altcoin does badly but there's a lot of spam to wade through when you go there and if you make a new topic you probably won't get a good response or any response from someone who read the op until page 4 😂.

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March 29, 2019, 11:34:54 AM
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Ranking up has always been activity dependent, no reason to do away with that now. A user can lose their rank if a lot of their comments, and therefore activity, is deleted.

Here's a famous example:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=126291

1000 merits and 13 activity, lol.

That guy probably tried to hide his activity by deleting them by himself, he has also edited his posts. A scammer or ICO promoter? What is interesting is his wall:


 Grin

Also, I'm not interested in being a Legendary, it means about zero for me.
I don't trade an I don't plan to do it in the future, and I don't think my words would have more weight or my opinion would count more if I rank up. And if I'm wrong and it does....then the whole forum is f*** up!!!





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March 29, 2019, 11:51:10 AM
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I've learnt that the ones who get the most merit are the ones who give out the mist (weighted towards merit sources, hmmm) and the ones posting in meta mostly. The bitcoin and tech support boards do badly. Altcoin does badly but there's a lot of spam to wade through when you go there and if you make a new topic you probably won't get a good response or any response from someone who read the op until page 4 😂.

that red pill starting to kick in slightly?

@stompix

Talking of rank / merit / trust resulting in giving your opinions more weight...


when you get legendary status..will your sig spam rate not increase though? that is surely going to be useful?

What opinions do you have that I can evaluate and give an objective critique. I mean surely even you must realise some subjective gamed metric is likely to be of low value, if not misleading, and that you need to analyse each opinion/post upon its own REAL merit right? .

I'm sure most people that are actually interested in obtaining valuable information will read each post free from any misconceptions based upon these ridiculous and dangerous subjective metrics.

I would say having a sig spamming away for something that is obviously for financial reasons only.. is likely to detract from your pearls of wisdom far as much as anything else you have mentioned.  Just a friendly tip.



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March 29, 2019, 12:03:42 PM
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I don't think we should be giving out ranks just because people ask for them. That would kind of defeat the whole purpose of them in the first place. Merit is hard to get but at least it's an achievement when you do. Before the merit system the ranks only meant you've been here x amount of time and it was because of that that people were abusing the system and farming accounts in their thousands. Now ranks actually mean something.

With that being said, I've been pushing for people to be able to purchase the benefits of some of the higher ranks via more donator titles because merit is rather difficult to achieve consistently and in huge amounts and people still sell accounts and it's still big business, but you wouldn't be able to buy the rank title directly, but an equivalent ie Senior Member = Silver Member & Legendary Member = Gold Member etc.

It's the culmination of having a louder voice and being associated with being "trusted." This is explicitly and infinitely more noticeable in altcoins section, again, where i primary post. Hero is great and i do carry significant weight when calling out scams, or bullshit (there's an infinite amount of it in altcoins).

I'd argue that if anyone "trusts" a Legendary more than a Hero entirely because of the title - they're doing it wrong and I wouldn't want such "trust" anyway. But if you want to look at it this way: if there was no merit system in place, we would have so many more Legendaries today that the exclusivity/scarcity of it wouldn't be much different from that of your current Hero rank.

In any case, I don't think you are going to get an exception because you don't like the system.

Exactly. People put too much emphasis on ranks. If I see some random Legendary account pop up that I've never really seen before then I usually have reason to distrust them more than anything (or be suspicious of them at least).

It's the culmination of having a louder voice and being associated with being "trusted." This is explicitly and infinitely more noticeable in altcoins section, again, where i primary post. Hero is great and i do carry significant weight when calling out scams, or bullshit (there's an infinite amount of it in altcoins).

Nope, some green trust is way more effective than the "legendary" status.



I'd say reputation rather than just green trust. Anyone can get green trust if they're smart and do deals with the right people, and that's why reputation is worth more than anything. If your name means something around here then people are more likely to trust you. A familiar face and someone who is active in helping the community builds their reputation over time and that's how it should be.

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March 29, 2019, 03:31:43 PM
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Just be more patient OP so that you can get what you wanted anyway you have a good rank already so if I were you just stay what you are doing and stop complaining on getting merits or ranking up. This is how the admin wants and that clearly to minimize high rank users because there are man shit posters and it is not good to see high rank shit posting so take it as a challenge that in reaching the legendary rank a user must possess a quality posting skills.

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March 29, 2019, 03:58:05 PM
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Admins of BTT, i'm requesting to become a legendary account. The merit system has failed, unless you're actively farming those merits on the Bitcoin sections specifically targeting the merit "whales," then reaching 500-1k merit is virtually impossible. I'm nearing 1k activity and before the grand shitcoin flood, that was sufficient enough to prove yourself to achieve that status.

I've served my time and assisted the Bitcointalk community immensely for the past 5 years, from my perspective/opinion. I've always stayed true to what these forums represent and the underlining ideologies that Bitcoin and blockchain was founded on.



Edit
: i exclusively post within altcoins and only altcoins. I've done so since the start, there are many reasons for this. There's a lot i've done for crypto since the end of 2013, ofc i'm not picture perfect, nor do i have posts that are significant in a broader perspective. But, I've done a considerable amount of good (again this is my perspective) and things that are lesser known that have ultimately improved the crypto sphere as a whole.


I'm not an avid Bitcoin poster, because it was (and still is) quite easy to understand Bitcoin, progress and etc. I read a lot of materials on these forums, but my value on Bitcoin is overshadowed by many of the older veterans of BTT. It's difficult to explain, but yeah. Take it or leave it, i appreciate the attention this thread received in minutes.

I gave you 50 I checked your posts and its obvious you are one of the outliers who obviously deserve to rank up as you have been here a long time and aren't a total shitposting fuck.. PM me in a month and ill drop another 50 on you.

unfortunately with any unilateral system there will always be a few people who suffer and unfortunately it is you in this case.

Others will disagree with this I am sure, but I think its the right thing to do in this case.

Please no one else ask me - no begging for merits people..

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March 29, 2019, 04:17:24 PM
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Here's a famous example:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=126291

1000 merits and 13 activity, lol.

That guy probably tried to hide his activity by deleting them by himself, he has also edited his posts. A scammer or ICO promoter? What is interesting is his wall:



Interestingly, he was a real conspiracy nutter and Alex Jones fanboy. He thought the CIA or FBI would use his comments to arrest him, and that he was already being monitored (not that he was that interesting, just incredibly grouchy all the time), so he deleted his post history, as much as he could. He also had a picture of what appeared to be a small pile of crystal meth shards as his avatar, so, yeah...

I don't trade an I don't plan to do it in the future, and I don't think my words would have more weight or my opinion would count more if I rank up. And if I'm wrong and it does....then the whole forum is f*** up!!!

It does... and it is... yet I still find the system provides some value, some of the time.

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Others will disagree with this I am sure
I'm just leaving this here:
If they complain about amounts, tell them to complain to me. It's best if sources try to exhaust their source allocations, even if it means giving posts higher amounts than is typical. If you have 150 source merit and you only see 3 merit-worthy posts in a month, then I'd rather you over-give each of them 50 merit than let the merit expire. That way there are more people capable of sending merit, and the "merit economy" is less top-down.

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Others will disagree with this I am sure
I'm just leaving this here:
If they complain about amounts, tell them to complain to me. It's best if sources try to exhaust their source allocations, even if it means giving posts higher amounts than is typical. If you have 150 source merit and you only see 3 merit-worthy posts in a month, then I'd rather you over-give each of them 50 merit than let the merit expire. That way there are more people capable of sending merit, and the "merit economy" is less top-down.

Thanks man, for once I’m on the same page as the big chief

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March 29, 2019, 05:26:18 PM
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There's no denying the largest part of Bitcointalk is indeed altcoin discussions, ANNs and the increasingly defunct tokens section. Spam or not, it is the largest and generates the most traffic.

I'm going to shift my perspective here a bit, merit is dead in altcoins and i truly do understand that now. Altcoins have always been shunned by the vets of Bitcointalk, out of ideology or because of the pure spam. Today, hate against altcoins occurs to a much lesser degree due to the evolution of altcoins tech, and having impact on Bitcoin in a variety of ways and shapes much of the discussion about Bitcoin.


And you forget to mention most important word "SCAM. Most Altcoins are created for scamming only.

Leading into merit. I truly believe that altcoin discussions is on-par with bitcoin discussions in terms of quality. It has significantly grown and matured in the last year, I don't necessarily know how Theymos and some of you older dudes view altcoins these days, so i can't really comment on what the best interest or how you want to dictate these forums.


Theymos is not against altcoin as he is accepting grincoin and planning for XMR as payment option in future. I am quoting one of the theymos old post.


Satoshi created Bitcoin and this forum in order to change the world, not to create a "Cult of BTC". In fact, Satoshi recommended creating Namecoin, the first altcoin. (Though Namecoin ended up being one of the bolt-stuff-onto-cloned-Bitcoin systems that I've never really respected.) I'm not going to start jumping on every alt bandwagon and treating every cryptocurrency as just as good as any other, nor do I believe that grin is currently anywhere close to BTC in terms of overall utility. But grin has true merit, and if you're interested in Bitcoin for the same reasons that Satoshi created it (freedom, privacy, and interesting tech), then grin is worthy of acknowledgement.

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I gave you 50 I checked your posts and its obvious you are one of the outliers who obviously deserve to rank up as you have been here a long time and aren't a total shitposting fuck.. PM me in a month and ill drop another 50 on you.

unfortunately with any unilateral system there will always be a few people who suffer and unfortunately it is you in this case.

Others will disagree with this I am sure, but I think its the right thing to do in this case.

Please no one else ask me - no begging for merits people..

I appreciate your kind gesture and everyone else's. Since i've been flooded with merit in the last day, i suppose i have no alternative option (nullifying this thread basically) other than merit to rank up.

But, again, thank you dude and everyone else who's been understanding.

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i've been flooded with merit in the last day

#7 in most merits earned per 24h... a couple more days to Legendary Wink

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There are some good posters in the altcoin sections but they do get lost among the spammers.  A lot of us already know virtually everything about bitcoin so we seek out something new and altcoin sort of fills that role.  Its exciting to be on the ground floor of something hoping it will be successful.  I know this is bitcointalk but the altcoin section still exists for a reason and it is an integral part of this forum.




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I gave you 50 I checked your posts and its obvious you are one of the outliers who obviously deserve to rank up as you have been here a long time and aren't a total shitposting fuck.. PM me in a month and ill drop another 50 on you.

unfortunately with any unilateral system there will always be a few people who suffer and unfortunately it is you in this case.

Others will disagree with this I am sure, but I think its the right thing to do in this case.

Please no one else ask me - no begging for merits people..

Great job from a merit source, i think this is a nice example of how merits should be given because at the end, to reach Legendary status isn't easy at all, we are talking about close to 3 years of activity. I agree now, tk808 should become Legendary asap. And with more people like TMAN this will be possible.

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