folks? still that block-discussion going on?
isnt it obv meanwhile? classic wont succeed, miners are hesitant to switch.
but core will have to accept a 2MB hardfork in 2017. miners want that.
so case closed. nothing to see here anymore.
Feel free to try to change the subject. But Adam might bite your hand.  haha! hey adam, how about some soccertalk? i heard manchester united got sacked tonight? |
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folks? still that block-discussion going on?
isnt it obv meanwhile? classic wont succeed, miners are hesitant to switch.
but core will have to accept a 2MB hardfork in 2017. miners want that.
so case closed. nothing to see here anymore.
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The Chinese miners sent a group letter to Core pledging that they would not change client software, but would they please give a date for a 2MB hard fork and tell us when they decide in the next three weeks?
date for HF is march/april 2017. where i got that from? sources.  |
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Tarmi being a prime example of getting killed on margin.
good ol tarmi. i simply loved that fart.  he sold his account long time ago after he got wrekt . i told him at that time, you will be here just as long as this bear market goes on. as soon as the tide turns you and your shithole-friends will be gone, but we, the bulltards, will still be here. and thats exactly what happend.  i'm still here.. i play both sides.   |
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Tarmi being a prime example of getting killed on margin.
good ol tarmi. i simply loved that fart. he sold his account long time ago after he got wrekt . i told him at that time, you will be here just as long as this bear market goes on. as soon as the tide turns you and your shithole-friends will be gone, but we, the bulltards, will still be here. and thats exactly what happend. |
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Tarmi being a prime example of getting killed on margin.
good ol tarmi. i simply loved that fart. |
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looks like classic wont get enough hashpower. i dont expect much more miners to join the train.
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soweit man hört wurden sie überflutet mit claims. ca die x4 menge an tatsächlichen ansprüchen.
Dachten diese Helden tatsächlich, der Insolvenzverwalter zahlt einfach das Geld aus?! ich denke ja. hoffen wir mal das es da nicht soweit kommt das man sich mit solchen leuten um seinen account streiten muss.  |
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Termin im Februar für die neuigkeiten, weiß den jemand ?
"The fifth creditor’s meeting will be held at Tokyo District Courtroom for Creditors’Meeting No.1 ... at 13:30 on February 17, 2016." Quelle: https://www.mtgox.comBin mal gespannt, was morgen bei dem meeting rauskommt...  soweit man hört wurden sie überflutet mit claims. ca die x4 menge an tatsächlichen ansprüchen. dazu noch etliche klagen von wem auch immer. |
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What do you think would happen in a BJA Commiepocalypse situation? Most Bitcoin companies in China are as committed and decent as any bitcoiner (cue lambie), but I'm not comfortable with having to trust a socialist dictatorship to not interfere. They don't have to nationalize anything. That's what you do in a country when you are used to having to justify your actions. The chinese government will only have to make a few phone calls. I don't see why they would do such a thing, but again, I don't like having to trust them. I agree with that. The problem is that they could shut us down or pressure the miners to adopt some "features" that benefit the Sate. I don't know what those features may be, or even if they would bother us at all, but the fact that they can do it is contrary to the design and principles of Bitcoin. you see if they have to add some "features" that the chinese gov wants its pretty easy and completely different from our problems at the moment. we would simply fork away. the reason we have so much discussion at the moment is just because both sides have arguments on their side, but in such a situation we would fork in 24h and thats it. |
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What do you think would happen in a BJA Commiepocalypse situation? Most Bitcoin companies in China are as committed and decent as any bitcoiner (cue lambie), but I'm not comfortable with having to trust a socialist dictatorship to not interfere. They don't have to nationalize anything. That's what you do in a country when you are used to having to justify your actions. The chinese government will only have to make a few phone calls. I don't see why they would do such a thing, but again, I don't like having to trust them. true, but on the other hand if the chinese miners are cut off, basically nothing changes. diff maybe to high for a while but thats it. |
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nice, but its the blocks that matter and there we only see 1 block so far. pretty disappointing if you ask me.
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ich meinte, dass sich die anzahl der noch nicht gemineten blöcke verringert und dadurch in gewisser weise das angebot an diesen noch nicht gefundenen coins mindert.
ja, aber dieser effekt läuft immer gleich schnell ab. genau dafür ist die difficulty ja da, die inflation soll immer möglichst gleich bleiben. |
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difficulty folgt preis
nicht eher andersrum? difficulty steigt. es wurden mehr blöcke gefunden. verknappung des minebaren btcangebots und damit steigt der preis naja, die anzahl der gefundenen blöcke bleibt ja immer konstant und hat daher schonmal keinen einfluss auf das angebot und somit den preis. ein höherer preis bedeutet das mehr miner ans netz gehen können welche bisher nicht rentabel arbeiten konnten, folglich steigt die diff. teilweise auch um monate verzögert da ein grosser preissprung bedeutet das ASICs in grossen mengen grordert werden welche monate brauchen bis sie ans netz gehen. |
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400$ überschritten.
Hoffentlich hälts diesmal
und wie hängen difficulty und preis jetzt zusammen? Das ist eine gute Frage. Hängen die überhaupt zusammen  difficulty folgt preis |
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afaik (chinese) miners are determined to HF to 2MB. so i dont see is as "inevitable" but i expect it to happen.
It would be interesting to see your source for this. mostly IRCSurely there may be some discussion of various hardfork possibilities, but when push comes to shove, there seems to be no need for a hardfork, if a very large majority are already inclined to agree to the change from 1mb to 2mb (if that is what you are talking about). HF doesnt mean two competing forks. its just means to hardcode 1MB -> 2MB at block number xyz. even if we have 100% consensus we will have to HF |
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We're already seeing blocks fill up on this pump. I'm curious as to how a rally can be sustained when confirmation times take hours.
the question is: will confirmation times for bigger transactions (lets say 100$+) really take longer? i mean if i want to transfer for example 5 BTC to an exchange i just make the fee 3$ or whatever and that's it! the only TXs that will really suffer are the small and micro ones. All of my most recent transfers of BTC over the past 6 months or so have included a transaction fee of between .0001 and .0002 BTC, which was generally between $.07 to $.09, and varying transaction sizes of .045BTC and 30BTC..., so your description of a possible $3 transaction fee seems to be quite excessive and outside of actual expected experiences... and really, there may be a bit of an incentive to transfer larger amounts because the transaction fee is the same no matter the amount transferred. indeed 3$ is exaggerated. my point was that TXs bigger than just a few $s will most likely have no issues in an eventual TX-jam. |
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Bitcoin now has a rather nice flag formation after the rise from 200-500 with little media fanfare. The alt's are waking up and the halving is approaching. The only thing keeping bitcoin back is the blocksize debate which will soon resolve either by a HF with majority of miner support, or with Core acquiescing to the demands of the market and miners (3 weeks!) and fixing a 2mb blocksize HF in the roadmap. The Chinese will stick with Core, they are quite conservative with respect to leadership. I'd be surprised to see Core implement 2MB blocks in addition to segregated witness, but we'll see. And so long, farewell, auf wiedersehen 300s! I'm actually pleasantly surprised with the steady price increase recently. Does anyone know the reasoning behind the increase? Does it have anything to do with the lack of users moving to classic or something, and now that the investors see that, they're buying again? Or has Classic caused the increase as more users flock to it? i think thats the reason. miners are hesitant and so a contentious HF is for the moment highly unlikely. 95% HF in 2017 is therefore highly likely. @ImI: Why do you keep framing the issue as if a hard fork is inevitable? Why is a hardfork needed in the first place? I think that threatening and even engaging in action to employ a hard fork is what causes so much contentious behavior from a large number of persons who become more entrenched in their positions because the solution is framed as being a hardfork. There seems to be no reason for a hardfork, except one that strives to fundamentally change bitcoin's currently existing consensus based governance mechanism. afaik (chinese) miners are determined to HF to 2MB. so i dont see is as "inevitable" but i expect it to happen. |
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We're already seeing blocks fill up on this pump. I'm curious as to how a rally can be sustained when confirmation times take hours.
the question is: will confirmation times for bigger transactions (lets say 100$+) really take longer? i mean if i want to transfer for example 5 BTC to an exchange i just make the fee 3$ or whatever and that's it! the only TXs that will really suffer are the small and micro ones. |
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