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2041  Economy / Speculation / Re: Going to the real bottom! on: December 18, 2014, 04:22:34 AM


WIll it find a new low ? Will it trend reversal ?
Or will Ripple beat Bitcoin?
Is this gentleman?


THE NEXT 24H ARE CRITICAL FOR BTC.
Does anyone concur ?

Bitcoin will thrive over the long term.

The main problem at the moment is newcomers that don't understand the dynamics of merchant integration. Bitpay needs to add payroll services to help balance out the selling frenzy they've created.
2042  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time Inc. Deal Promises to Ratchet Up Firehose of Selling Pain for Bitcoin on: December 18, 2014, 04:13:42 AM


everyone here sounds so funny lol... so if they keep "spending" it then who keeps buying it?? or where do you think it goes?!

Many people buy bitcoin initially as a novelty, to see how it works. Others have mined small amounts over time. Satoshi mined nearly 1 million bitcoins before he vanished and left Gavin holding the bag.

Now the network difficulty is too high and the ship requires a new captain to help guide bitcoin around the newly emerging icebergs. Wherever Satoshi is right now he's probably high-fiving this thread and praying that the community listens.
2043  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time Inc. Deal Promises to Ratchet Up Firehose of Selling Pain for Bitcoin on: December 18, 2014, 01:13:59 AM
In essence, what is happening now is that every time someone purchases a product or service from a bitcoin accepting merchant (aka bitcoin dumper), the buyer is causing that BTC to be immediately sold on the market. There are simply not enough speculators available to offset the combined force of this massive network of merchant sellers.

For every 100 stories about how another company is now accepting (aka selling) bitcoin, we might get 1 about payroll integration. This imbalance is not sustainable over the long term. People need to earn bitcoin, spend bitcoin, and avoid fiat exchanging. I think its just a matter of bringing this awareness to the surface and shifting focus.

2044  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is causing the current downward trend? on: December 17, 2014, 06:28:25 PM
What is causing the current downward trend?
I have been watching the price of BTC pretty regularly for the last 2 months. More specifically when it was stalled at $380 for a couple weeks and making no significant movement. Then 2 weeks ago we saw the first actual movement in awhile, losing $30 and going down to  $350. Over the last week or so we have all watched it go downward to $330 yesterday, and at the time of this writing it is at $317 today.
Could someone help me understand what is causing this decline? If anything, with Microsoft and Time now accepting BTC, I would of expected the price to increase some. And I remember when the news that Microsoft was accepting came out, the price went up $10, but obviously has since come back down.

What is causing such a rapid drop?  It’s a large question, but what are the big factors and variable?


Here is your answer: http://altcoinpress.com/2014/12/why-the-bitcoin-markets-didnt-rally-on-the-microsoft-news/
2045  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time Inc. Deal Promises to Ratchet Up Firehose of Selling Pain for Bitcoin on: December 17, 2014, 05:27:07 PM
Why do you want the price of bitcoin to go up?

It's not only a matter of the price going up. It's a matter of correct balance, steady focus, and fundamental understanding.

Integration on the payroll side is probably more important than the POS side; yet all the focus is on the POS side. This means we're increasingly loading up the sell side with merchants who auto sell their BTC. Instead, we must encourage merchants to also offer BTC options to employees. Then businesses could funnel their bitcoin revenue back over into payroll, rather than dumping it on the market.

Basically, we must encourage balance - instead of promoting a system of merchants who become bitcoin dumping gremlins.
2046  Economy / Speculation / Re: TIME TO BUY on: December 17, 2014, 12:17:15 PM


Exactly. Some of the companies starting to accept bitcoin may cause more supply on the market, however overall more merchants accepting bitcoin are going to cause more people (consumers) to use it

Ordinary people are not going to take the additional step of converting fiat to BTC, so they can then buy things with BTC that they could have purchased directly with fiat. Consumers are not stupid and will not bother to take that additional unnecessary step.

The only solution is for the community to wake up and realize that we need merchants to integrate BTC into their payrolls to offset the selling!
2047  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: STOP BUYING ALTCOIN FROM NOW on: December 17, 2014, 03:15:20 AM
As good as any of the coin, if there is no adequate investor, it is surely in vain. And also, if you look at the altcoin have great wall buy. That's not the investor. That's manipulator.

When the consumer discover bitcoin, he will be be amazed.

After a while he will want something new and shiny. Wait for this to happen. Be shiny.
2048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: WHAT ALTCOIN EXCHANGE IS BEST TO USE? on: December 17, 2014, 03:10:35 AM
I am interested in knowing which exchange everyone thinks is the best one to use.

This is the easiest question ever posted. The answer is... Cryptsy!
2049  Economy / Speculation / Re: TIME TO BUY on: December 17, 2014, 03:06:13 AM
At least that's what I just did, so I believe we are at or very close to the bottom.

Why would we be at the bottom? The selling is just beginning.

Every time a new company like Microsoft offers bitcoin as a payment method, the market gains another auto-seller. There is no reason for the price to increase until this imbalance is corrected. The time to "go long" would be when a major company announces that it will be integrating bitcoin into its payroll options.
2050  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you own bitcoin? on: December 17, 2014, 02:59:55 AM
Don't think this poll will give truly reliable/valid results.

I expect everyone to be honest,what would the point be of lying?

The real question should be, "what's the point of buying bitcoin so I can spend it on goods and services that I can already buy with fiat. Why should I take the extra step?" Unless companies like Microsoft and Time also begin offering employee pay in bitcoin, we're going to see continued selling.
2051  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin on CBS news this morning on: December 17, 2014, 02:56:15 AM
tanking price does not indicate fall of bitcoin.

It's the trend.

Consumers are not going to go out and buy bitcoins so they can spend them at places that already accept fiat. The extra step is awkward and unneeded. The only solution is to balance the scales by encouraging adoption on the payroll side of the equation. Otherwise, be prepared to watch the price spiral lower.
2052  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You want bitcoin to succeed ? *THIS* is what you need to focus on on: December 16, 2014, 11:37:36 PM
The Bitcoin community should boycott any BTC accepting merchant that doesn't also offer their employees a bitcoin payment option.
2053  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin on CBS news this morning on: December 16, 2014, 11:06:49 PM


Unless more merchants begin also paying employees in Bitcoin, 2015 will bring more headlines about sinking ships and lost chances.
2054  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: when will all btc be mined? on: December 16, 2014, 10:44:27 PM
guys keep it simple,smile and cheese Smiley

Until quantum mining is perfected, difficulty should be able to adjust for network hashrate increases.
2055  Economy / Speculation / Time Inc. Deal Promises to Ratchet Up Firehose of Selling Pain for Bitcoin on: December 16, 2014, 10:10:11 PM


On Tuesday, Time Inc. announced that it would begin accepting Bitcoin payments for certain magazine subscriptions. This means the massive stream of merchant selling pressure, recently intensified by the Microsoft announcement, has just grown by another order of magnitude.

Lynne Biggar, the executive vice president for consumer marketing and revenue at Time Inc., said in the statement:

"This pilot program will give Bitcoin users a seamless and simple way to purchase subscriptions. We hope to expand our partnership with Coinbase in the coming months to create more opportunities to provide greater value to our customers."

Consumers can purchase subscriptions for Fortune, Health, This Old House and Travel and Leisure. Other Time Inc. publications, including People, Sports Illustrated and Food and Wine, have been excluded for now.

But how many people go out and purchase US dollars so they can then turn around and spend those dollars on products and services? How many people are going to run out and buy more bitcoins to replace those spent at merchants? If Bitcoin ever hopes to mature past the Frankie’s Fun Park token stage, the community had better wake up – and fast.



The Bitcoin community is shooting itself in the foot by squarely focusing on merchant integration on the payment side only. This is resulting in ever-growing selling pressure as the majority of merchants simply elect to dump their bitcoins for cash. Since mining is now almost entirely done by large-scale operations, the only solution for relieving this selling pressure is by shifting the focus to wage integration and balancing the scales of the bitcoin economy.

Elephant in the Room

Companies like Microsoft and Time Inc. need to offer bitcoin deposits as a form of compensation to their contractors and employees. Bitpay and Coinbase should be expanding their services to include wage and salary integration. This would allow the bitcoin ecosystem to become less dependent on fiat exchanges, lessen the selling pressure, and promote a more stable and sustainable commerce transaction system.

Full Story: http://altcoinpress.com/2014/12/time-inc-deal-promises-to-ratchet-up-firehose-of-selling-pain-for-bitcoin/
2056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: where to buy ripples? on: December 16, 2014, 12:13:53 PM
I've spent the past 3 days trying to get my rig configured to solo mine Ripples. Still getting nothing but errors!
2057  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The sad truth about Bitcoin on: December 16, 2014, 12:08:32 PM
I've come to realize that Bitcoin is either for the rich or for poor people picking up the smallest of crumbs.  There seems to be very few people in the middle.  If this doesn't change... Bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general is doomed.

The main problem with Bitcoin is that 99% of the community is focused on merchant integration. This means there are a growing number of places where holders of bitcoin can essentially dump their BTC onto the markets. This is what happens every time a customer checks out with Bitpay.

There needs to be a fundamental shift in the community's consciousness, and an awareness of what is happening. We need not only businesses to accept bitcoin, but also for them to give their employees the option of receiving their wage in bitcoin. This will slow down the influx in selling.

2058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WHAT IS YOUR OTHER CHOICE FOR INVESTMENT AFTER BITCOINS? on: December 16, 2014, 04:17:59 AM
what is your other choice for investment for a virtual currency after bitcoins?which virtual currency could gain value in the coming months?dogecoins?ethercoins?litecoins?

The currency that will surpass Bitcoin in popularity is Goldcoin. However, the greatest unknown at this point is: at which point in time.
2059  Other / Meta / Re: Stop the scammers on BCT on: December 15, 2014, 12:43:44 PM
In the short amount of time it took me to read this thread, 5 new cryptocurrencies were created.  Cheesy
2060  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why my doge is going down ? on: December 15, 2014, 04:44:06 AM
will it increase in value or decrease in the long term?

I think Dogecoin will be a survivor long term. The main thing we should all be focusing on now, is not only getting merchants to accept crypto, but also to begin lobbying merchants to begin paying wages in crypto. I think that's the golden ticket.

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