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2061  Economy / Economics / Re: Why have Bitcoin instead of cash? on: August 22, 2016, 07:15:09 AM
I have bitcoin instead of cash because using bitcoin is more fast for transaction at online shops and bitcoin is like my second money for buy or selling something.
really good to hear this fro people ,
i just wish everyone can treat bitcoin like this and enjoying every single bitcoin advantages ,
people should realize that the low fee transaction are the main benefit use bitcoin instead cash ,
also you can send money over bitcoin around the world faster than cash over western union.
2062  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Sensus app. Looking for beta testers. Get paid for your answers! on: August 22, 2016, 07:07:21 AM
I want to participate in beta tester, but is it safe and secure android application? I mean no malware or anything.


Its is considered as a safe App. Go ahead and be a part of beta testing.
About this 'it's a safe app' claim. Did you know that malicious code was found in apps which reached top 10 the most popular apps of Google Store?
It is not easy to detect and check some really elaborate malware. And smartphones are especially susceptible for this kind of attack.

I would only test that app on fresh device containing no important data.
also this words "I recommend you sign in with your bitcointalk username to stay anon. Feel free to get back to me." make me more curious what exactly the mission of this? to know the account information? sorry no offense okay ,
btw i got that words as he personally message me ,
i agree with snorek , just test this apps on fresh device and not contain any information about your bitcointalk account Wink goodluck op
2063  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: August 22, 2016, 07:01:53 AM
If you want to save money, save at least 10% to 20% of your salary.  That is salary less savings equals expenses.  You need to put savings first and not what is left in your salary.  If you do that you will just lost all the salary as you will only spend the money dedicated to savings.  If you save first then there is no way you could spend that money.  Try to commute instead of driving your own car during work.  You could also try to packed your food instead of eating out. 
it is just another ordinary step to have your money saved ,
but good to share here as maybe not everyone can do this ,
saving money also can be done by investing imho ,
for example invest on bitcoin but there is a risk of course , you have a chance to losing value.
2064  Other / Off-topic / Re: Where u use bitcoins? on: August 22, 2016, 06:43:36 AM
I am using bitcoin in poloniex to buy and sell coins alt,then when it was my profit partly widraw and so I use again in poloniex
lol just simply say you used it for trading bitcoin-altcoins ,
also i guess op means like where are you spend bitcoin? ,
not just use it what for , generally people used bitcoin in man to man deal on selling digital stuff ,
also used bitcoin to invest , gamble and to get have fun tipping girl on bitcoin cam show.
2065  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Soccer Transfer Market 2016/2017 ! on: August 21, 2016, 12:50:47 PM
How about this:
Arsenal want Porto player Yacine Brahimi coz they fail to sign Leicester star R. Mahrez. We are talling about 46M euros for this Algerian player.
Liverpool and Chelsea also wanna this player and last year he was close to sign for AC Milan
arsenal are so quiet in this transfer window , wenger are too slow ,
granit xhaka have no big effect to arsenal game , they are urgently need a fresh striker ,
and one center back to replace mertesacker ,
not another winger or midfielder , there ramsey , ozil , walcott and alexis sanchez already.
2066  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: August 21, 2016, 12:43:54 PM
Lets say I want to buy bitcoins today and store them for 20 years to use a my retirement fund.  Live comfortably, but don't need to buy a yacht or anything.  How many do you think I would need to buy?
We don't know what will happen 20 years from now, maybe bitcoin will not survive to that date or maybe bitcoin will survive but the price is unpredictable because its characteristic of not being stable and that's the one reason why bitcoin is unique. So while you're still alive just don't be outdated of the news related to bitcoin. So you can control your coins anytime.
it is always have to side possibility , became worthy or became worth nothing ,
noone can guarantee bitcoin will keep growing and survive for years even satoshi the inventor ,
so don't go allin in this awesom bitcoin world , but keep your faith in bitcoin ,
i myself planning to hold 10 bitcoin atleast as future investment.
2067  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: August 21, 2016, 12:24:57 PM
Gold is something unknown for me cause i don't know anyting about earning money with gold, better to start working with bitcoins, cause i already know someting.

You cannot make money with gold on regular basis that you can do with bitcoin, in fact you can also earn bitcoin but with gold you have only option to buy it.

I agree, if you have a good knowledge of the market and keep up to date you can increase the chances to use volatility to your advantage, making profits that way. But it is something recommended only for experienced people, the volatility in the cryptocurrency market is higher than the usual.
The realty is we do not start as professional, everything can be learn and even if we are still newbie now. We have a good chance to make money in the future if we are going to work hard and focus on our plan, the opportunity is here so we need to take this now.

Exactly, and with bitcoin you can make lot of money, it provides us various ways to earn it and make profits from it so you cannot afford to miss any opportunity to make profits from it.
bitcoin are bigger world for a freelancer and tech savvy and gold don't have it ,
you can earn bitcoin and get profit by doing work for bitcoin , selling goods etc ,
but it doesn't mean bitcoin are better than gold ,
i personally think bitcoin and gold are not comparable at all , gold rae not considered as currency when bitcoin considered as investment and currency.
2068  Other / Off-topic / Re: Earning a living with bitcoin? on: August 21, 2016, 12:16:24 PM
Yes, but you should not rely completely on it.

Why not to rely on it if you know you can earn enough to make a living with it? Bitcoin is not a currency like altcoins that can disappear in a minute, it is the king of digital currencies so if you have a source that is generating enough bitcoins for you to make a living with it then you can completely rely on it.

Yeah if you are managing to earn good amount of bitcoins on regular basis then you can surely depend on it for living and I think many people are doing it successfully since long time.
Trading will give you a good profit so it is possible you can make a living with bitcoin, but first you need to be very good in trading in order to earn consistently and you can grow your money. People always dream to have that kind of opportunity but seems like trading is not for everyone.

The fact is in trading not everyone can afford to invest high capital as you also need to keep risk factor in mind, as not every time you will be gaining profits from it.
trading are never been so easy as people says here in there ,
even sometimes trading just feel like gambling , we are blind , we are have know nothing ,
and just buy a random coin , sell it on lower price and suffering loss ,
hard really t make a living with bitcoin through trading unless you are work for bitcoin company.
2069  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: August 21, 2016, 12:08:34 PM
Mainly as an investment, holding for the long term.
why you only make bitcoin as an investment only? what's the reason?
have you ever thinking to consider bitcoin as currency? or digital currency at least?
bitcoin are spendable almost everyhere around the world currently ,
some people even call bitcoin as the future of global currency.


Bitcoin is mainly used as a digital currency and not as a physical currency and that makes people to treat it as an investment and in future when people find direct places to spend they will start using it as a currency.
i can not imagine how bitcoin be a physical currency and used in real life ,
it will looks strange and ugly maybe?
for me that was not the reason , as long as you can pay something use bitcoin , it is a currency!
people just feel too insecure use and spend bitcoin.
2070  Other / Off-topic / Re: Getting My First Whole Bitcoin? on: August 21, 2016, 11:37:53 AM
If we observe this through a long-term perspective, I believe it is a good time to do so.

Yeah, indeed it becomes a good thing if this is seen for the long term. Because in the long term we can see more clearly about what we have planned. Something the plan would be a nice thing if we plan the future

If you plan for long term then try to hold the bitcoins as much you can. For op,  I didn't get my whole bitcoin yer still working. Hopefully I will earn it soon. Smiley
whole bitcoin you mean 1 bitcoin? it is unusual word for me ,
how can you holding bitcoin without earn it?the topic says clearly about how to collect/earn bitcoin without buying it ,
hard to answer honestly , you must have an effort , spend money to buy bitcoin are one of them ,
by trading altcoin that have a low price below 10k satoshi like horizon coin you can gain profit and make 1 bitcoin much more fast than any other way imho.
2071  Economy / Speculation / Re: If bitcoin dropped to $1, what you do? on: August 21, 2016, 11:30:01 AM
if that happens I will buy all of bitcoin and wait until normal price  Grin
are you sure? then why you did not do it back in 2009 or 2010?
noone knows what will happened if bitcoin dropped and crashed to $1 ,
mostly will just get panic and sell all bitcoin they have instead buy it as many as you can ,
when it happened you will just think bitcoin era are almost over.

Its very easy to say that we will buy to maximum extent but in real life people would surely get panic if they see that low price of bitcoin and would not prefer to invest in it.
nah you know that , and i believe everyone will have same feeling ,
especially when you put a large amount on your investment ,
lets say you bought 100,000 bitcoin at $1 price and then the price dropped to $0.5 ,
you have lost half value and i am sure you will do panic sell.
2072  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: August 20, 2016, 07:49:25 AM
Mainly as an investment, holding for the long term.
why you only make bitcoin as an investment only? what's the reason?
have you ever thinking to consider bitcoin as currency? or digital currency at least?
bitcoin are spendable almost everyhere around the world currently ,
some people even call bitcoin as the future of global currency.
2073  Economy / Speculation / Re: If bitcoin dropped to $1, what you do? on: August 20, 2016, 07:37:22 AM
if that happens I will buy all of bitcoin and wait until normal price  Grin
are you sure? then why you did not do it back in 2009 or 2010?
noone knows what will happened if bitcoin dropped and crashed to $1 ,
mostly will just get panic and sell all bitcoin they have instead buy it as many as you can ,
when it happened you will just think bitcoin era are almost over.
2074  Other / Off-topic / Re: Old people earning bitcoins on: August 20, 2016, 07:31:50 AM
I think there are many old people that still want earn money even they already old and it's good to introduce them about bitcoin and tell them that they can earn money with bitcoin.
mostly old people will have a hard understanding ,
bitcoin are the most complicated way to earn money for old people even for younger and it is a problem ,
if there a lot of old people making bitcoin out there , i believe they just consider bitcoin as investment ,
not for currency nor for a regular job.
2075  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Discussion]What work would you do for 1$USD per hour? on: August 20, 2016, 07:24:18 AM
I won't do anything under 10$/h.
In my country the minimal salary is 11$/h so any job would pay more
That's so high, I can do anything with it because like in my country the maximum salary in average people is not above than 3$/h and that is already included on high paying in my environment.

Dude, every country has a standard or minimum salary. so we can only do something things that can realize any dreams that want to attain. same as the above example "want to earning $ 10/h" then the thing to do is plan and strategy
it is true , depends on how much salary average in yur country ,
op wants $1 per hour job which i think he is from "Developed country" with low salary standard ,
and for me personally work $1 per hour are not worth , i will do it at least for $5 per hour ,
as we are in bitcoin world , trading could be the only way to get it , or do selling your skills .
2076  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: August 19, 2016, 03:56:26 PM
Manchester United ML will be very nice option for today match even on other side Southampton is playing much better, but I think by playing on home ground Manchester United has pretty good chance to win this match, that is why I will place my bet on ML there and it looking very safe.

Manchester united and manchester city should easily win the game. I cant really think of two other clubs that could give you comfortably profit in the weekends besides those two clubs however what concern me is manchester city, they almost got a draw in the first opening game so things could be getting tough
i am thinking to make parlay between manchester united , manchester city, chelsea , arsenal , liverpool and tottenham to win ,
i belive there is a time for all big teams win at same time , it is worth to give a shot ,
manchester united play at home which make almost sure they will win it ,
chelsea are in away with manchester city quiet doubt but i will do it.
I think it's good to try luck by taking some big teams to be parlay.
and all the big teams that play at home is sure to win, although Liverpool, Chelsea, Man city played away, I'm sure they can win, like in their first match to continue the trend of victory.
the odds for this moneyline parlay are 21.17 at directbet ,
put 0.01 on this picks every week and see there is a time when all of these big teams win at a time ,
let's do this and hope it will working well ,
leicester vs arsenal are the hardest game in tis pick but who knows.
2077  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Soccer Transfer Market 2016/2017 ! on: August 19, 2016, 03:37:30 PM
Napoli would take a great profit if the deal for Kalidou Koulibaly move to chelsea had done but napoli want more than 58 million euros. i so excited seeing premier league team has made many transfer this year and the league would be interesting to seen.
Napoli are making good profit this season , whereas after selling Higuain for Juventus , they are very close from selling another player for huge amount . If this deal completed successfully , it will be the most expensive deal in Chelsea's history , and Koulibaly will surpass Torres who came to Chelsea for € 50 m .
even though napoli are in profit after huge higuain sale ,
but they not yet spend the money to sign a high class player so far ,
and a rumour about koulibaly to chelsea with 58 million euro are possibly will not happened ,
napoli asking too high for a player that not young , he is 25 years old , it is overpriced of course.
2078  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin Changed my life has it changed yours? on: August 19, 2016, 03:25:33 PM
Yeah, bitcoin has changed my life too, because of bitcoin and bitcointalk i can be update informations, got many friends from another countries. And i can get money because of trading bitcoin and altcoins.
at first time people will think and do bitcoin job as a side job ,
but as time goes by work for bitcoin are more than a side job isn't it?
many people can covered their daily needs by just trading bitcoin or altcoin , selling digital stuff globally etc
and yet people still not understand what exactly bitcoin it is .
2079  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: August 19, 2016, 11:56:21 AM
I am also quite sure Malaga is very strong side and it has edge for this encounter with Osasuna, I will pick Malaga ML for betting because I would like to stake amount on minimum risk factor there, even there is pretty good chance for Malaga to win this match by huge margin and handicap is also have very good chance to make profit.
recently an odds around 1.4 to 1.7 always won on home teams for the first match ,
i am also believe malaga will win the match and both teams will scoring ,
but i don't think a handicap bet for this match will work , it is hard to pick which one ,
malaga moneyline 1.6 and both teams to score 2.2 enough for me.
2080  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: August 19, 2016, 11:50:55 AM
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1:Won fortunejack on 10/8
2:Forced log out twice on 11/8
3:Sent a ticket to support but receive no password reset.
4:Log in on 18/8 through password reset which is surprising strange since it shows password and email was wrong till today.
5:Found an email which stat email was changed on 11/8 which is strange as i dont remember receiving an new mail on fortunejack.
6:Deleted my account since support said coins cant be returned.

https://blockchain.info/tx/e94b8bad0668bf666467ebb30e7c1e6e371873918ac6d16229ae9571e190a4ee

How to delete your account in FJ? I don't think can delete it by ourselves.


Request support to delete.

Their support is fast to respond for deleting acc, but not active for other helps, sigh!!!
never know if we can request delete our FJ account. I mean, what's their benefit for delete our account?
Could you explain more what you mean about "others help"?

Delete accounts mean the money can be confisticated(i hope they won't do it) Acutally many guys complaint the support is slow, I mean this is others help, they should speed this kind of help.
i have deposited and played at fortunejack several times i and got a nice experience ,
they have a good site design , game platform and fast withdrawal ,
but their support are 100% slow , annoying when you have an issue and they seems ignore you ,
its like your issue will never solved as their support are not capable to handle it.
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