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2061  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 18, 2023, 03:29:08 PM


When you win but at the same time you also experience defeat. Maybe those are the words that best describe the Real Madrid vs Villarreal match last night and indeed Real Madrid won 4-1, but this had to be paid in full due to the injury suffered by David Alaba. Real Madrid had to suffer another loss because David Alaba was withdrawn from the match after suffering an injury and had to be replaced by Nacho.

It has been confirmed that David Alaba has suffered an ACL injury which will mean he will be sidelined for the remainder of this season. Real Madrid will definitely start moving to look for a new defender in January because currently they only have two central defenders left, namely Rudiger and Nacho. With the remaining competitions, including La Liga, UCL, Copa Del Rey, they have to strengthen their defense so they don't concede easily.

This season is a real disaster for Real Madrid in terms of injuries. And maybe I’m subjective like everyone else, but this endless stream of news about serious injuries to players makes me think that maybe this is firstly the consequences of the last super intense season. Secondly, these are the “accumulated” consequences of the fact that UEFA and FIFA are gradually tightening the calendar of games. I think something needs to be done about this - everyone loves good games and would like there to be more of them, but if half of the players are constantly injured, then it can hardly be called good football.

Meanwhile, Real Madrid became an even clearer favorite:

Real Madrid 1.27

Girona 6.86

Barcelona Fc 7.35

Atlético Madrid 12.74

Everything is logical: competitors lose points in unimportant games, and Real Madrid gains points even despite the absence of many players. It will be funny if this season the title is really played out between Real and Girona, now they (Girona) are already rated twice as good as Atlético.
Indeed, recently we have seen many social media users from various groups of football team fans protesting to related parties and that is the reason why recently we have seen so many players experiencing fatigue which results in injuries. It seems like these parties are only pursuing profit and don't care about the health of the players at each club and every club should also start protesting to protect their players.

It's a bit strange to see that Real Madrid is the favorite team to win La Liga, because they don't have a pure striker other than Joselu and the number 9 position will still be empty until the end of this season. Real Madrid can only depend on the performance of its current players and fortunately they can still score goals. It's not just funny anymore but it's more like an unreasonable competition and I don't think Girona can throw Barcelona in the title race this season and equalize their level with Real Madrid.
2062  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 18, 2023, 03:10:54 PM
There was no match worthy of the words "early final" in the 1/8 round. Defending champion Man City is especially lucky to only have to meet Copenhagen, the most underrated team. Real Madrid seems to have the easiest time among the Spanish teams entering the 1/8 round because their opponent is Leipzig, which is not the strongest in Germany and not a significant force in the European arena. Meanwhile, PSG was fortunate to avoid big opponents and clash with Sociedad. PSG was very lucky to get through the group stage, including a draw with Newcastle at home that they almost lost.
Overall, in this round, the wins belong to the big teams. The next quarter-finals are the "early finals" worth watching.
From what you say, everything is fact and indeed everyone has their own assessment. Here I agree that if Manchester City gets a very easy opponent, namely Copenhagen, their chances of qualifying for the quarterfinals will definitely be achieved. Real Madrid played against Leipzig, even though many here say that Real Madrid also had an easy opponent, but I don't think they agree because Leipzig is still quite a difficult opponent to beat. They have a good squad and also have a dominant striker like Lois Openda. Real Madrid doesn't have a pure striker in the starting lineup and they always rely on Rodrygo and Brahim for the starting line up. Even though in reality Jude Bellingham can always be a mainstay when Real Madrid needs a goal, what I'm afraid is that Leipzig will prepare intense training to be able to stop these players.

For PSG, perhaps it is true that they were lucky to face Real Sociedad and I think Real Sociedad should not be underestimated because they won the group before the draw for the last 16 of the Champions League. So this assessment is still based on general aspects and let's see later whether there is anything that can make this round of 16 more interesting or not.
2063  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 18, 2023, 02:53:29 PM
Today Atalanta will play against Salernitana at home. If they win, they can move one point above Roma in the standings. I think that this game will be easy for Atalanta, because Salernitana is in last place and usually do not score away.
This is the last match in Week 16 and it looks like Atalanta will close this match with an additional 3 points. Salernitana is not a difficult opponent, especially as they are far down at the bottom of the standings. The Atalanta players' motivation is at its peak and they will beat Salernitana with a landslide score in the home match. The previous victory against Milan will of course also increase the confidence of all Atalanta players and they must maximize this again in the match against Salernitana later. The difference from Roma is only two points so it is clear that Atalanta will overtake Roma this week. It seems like it would be fun to bet on Atalanta winning and it is certain that they will win by at least a 2 goal margin.
2064  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 18, 2023, 02:38:20 PM
The EPL is always a surprising competition because matches that could have been won ended in a draw. Here, Liverpool is clearly the favorite to win against Manchester United, but it seems that even against their rivals, Manchester United doesn't want to be careless and also pay attention to their back line so they don't concede easily. Even though in the end both teams did not score a single goal in this match, they both played very well. Maybe initially everyone thought that Manchester United would lose badly to Liverpool, but Andre Onana's performance in this match was silenced because he was seen repeatedly making saves when Liverpool had a chance to score.

On the other hand, Manchester United also seemed to be using a bus parking strategy and in fact they realized that was the only thing they could do against Liverpool who were in their best performance. For Manchester United, being able to still get 1 point is a good thing, but for Liverpool this is clearly a loss because they failed to maintain the top position this week and the top position is now occupied by Arsenal.

Previously, I actually had another assumption, in the previous post I said that this match would be tough. and it was proven, both teams were unable to score goals. we are well aware that Liverpool is superior, especially referring to the odds that the bookie gives United at @10.00. that's why, I took the risk to bet on United. I'm not just interested in the odds available, but these two teams have quite a long history. this match also involves the prestige of both parties. unfortunately, Rasmus Hojlund was unable to take advantage of the momentum when facing the Liverpool goalkeeper. In the end, Alisson was able to secure the ball easily. It should have been an important moment for Hojlund and also his first goal.

Talking about the course of this match, Liverpool should be able to beat Man United with the many opportunities they have. Just imagine, there were 34 total shots taken by the Red players. but only 1 was a big chance, even though 8 of them were shots on target. unfortunately, the performance of Manchester United's defensive line players was solid. Plus, Onana was the savior in this match. in fact, he made 8 saves. I'm sure there are many people who lost their bets on this match, whether they chose Liverpool or Over, let alone those who chose United like I did. In fact, United had several opportunities even though their chances were few. However, it is clear that their opportunities are quite threatening. unfortunately, usually when United counterattack, the probability of them scoring a goal is quite high. maybe also because Bruno was absent from this match.  and what is certain is that I also lost in this bet even though I actually had the Under option. well, for me United don't park buses like Mourinho. the problem was, Amrabat wasn't playing well enough. so the ball cannot be flowed properly. Likewise with Garnacho, he underperformed. Antony, didn't do much. On the other hand, Liverpool appeared all out and it was a shame that this match ended with a final score of 0-0.
Talking about odds, Manchester United is like a weak team like Sheffield or Burnley and it must be admitted that this is all because of the incomplete composition of the Red Devils squad. We know that many players are injured and facing Liverpool at full strength it is certainly impossible for Manchester United to win. Therefore, the bookie gives very big odds for Manchester United because of the weaknesses in their squad.

But unfortunately, as you said, Liverpool have repeatedly taken shots but none of them have resulted in a goal and of course anyone who bets on Liverpool winning with very small odds also loses their money in this match. However, if someone bets on the Manchester United/draw double chance, they will definitely be very happy because at least they still get quite big odds. Manchester United's players were too devastated and there was nothing to hope for and therefore a draw was the best achievement they could get against Liverpool.
2065  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: December 18, 2023, 02:23:21 PM
I'm still waiting to see what the SPL clubs will do in this transfer window. As we know they made a big breakthrough by recruiting many star players who had to spend their money in fantastic amounts. Not only in transfer fees but also it concerns the salaries that players get with them. But it paid off when their league became more popular now, and I'm sure many of us started to highlight the SPL after many European players came here, yes one of them is me.
SPL clubs will certainly continue to look for new star players from Europe and that will not stop before their target is completed. The Saudi League has a long-term project and one of its big investments is in football and that is why they are so enthusiastic about introducing their country through football. Now the arrival of the previous star players has made the Saudi league famous and maybe if they continue to bring in players who can increase exposure in the future then they will not hesitate to bring him in.

Al-Hilal, Al-Nassr, Al-Ittihad, and Al-Ahli are the 4 giant teams in the Saudi league and they are definitely already preparing plans to recruit star players in January. Players from the EPL are still of top interest to Saudi league clubs and can't wait to see those star players leave to earn bigger wages.
2066  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 18, 2023, 01:24:06 PM


After David Alaba suffered an ACL injury against Villarreal, three new rumors emerged as new defender targets for Real Madrid in January. Leny Yoro from Lille, Goncalo Inacio from Sporting Lisbon, and Antonio Silva from Benfica and these three players are indeed mainstays for their respective teams and are still very young. This will be a quite important transfer round for Real Marid because they have no other defender options after Militao and Alaba were sidelined until the end of the season. Real Madrid definitely does not want to continue to face the impact of the storm of injuries they have had this season and must immediately prevent the existing crucial situation by bringing in a new defender to strengthen their defense.

Actually, I rarely hear the name of this player, but as far as I remember, Goncalo Inacio has been on the radar of big teams and maybe he is the only one who is worthy enough for Real Madrid to bring in next January. What do you think, are these players the right options for Real Madrid or do you have other names in mind to fill the position left by David Alaba?
2067  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 18, 2023, 01:10:50 PM


When you win but at the same time you also experience defeat. Maybe those are the words that best describe the Real Madrid vs Villarreal match last night and indeed Real Madrid won 4-1, but this had to be paid in full due to the injury suffered by David Alaba. Real Madrid had to suffer another loss because David Alaba was withdrawn from the match after suffering an injury and had to be replaced by Nacho.

It has been confirmed that David Alaba has suffered an ACL injury which will mean he will be sidelined for the remainder of this season. Real Madrid will definitely start moving to look for a new defender in January because currently they only have two central defenders left, namely Rudiger and Nacho. With the remaining competitions, including La Liga, UCL, Copa Del Rey, they have to strengthen their defense so they don't concede easily.
2068  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 18, 2023, 12:52:20 PM
Roma had to admit Bologna's might at home and they went home without taking a single point in this match. Bologna beat Roma with a score of 2-0 and this was the third win in the last 5 matches for Bologna and they finally felt like they were in the top 4 this week. In fact, I doubt that Roma will be able to beat Bologna because both teams initially had the same number of points so this match would be very exciting. That's when Bologna didn't want to accept a draw or lose and they had to win if they wanted to take over the position previously occupied by Napoli. It seems like Roma are still not lucky enough in this match and for the past two weeks they have not secured another win.
2069  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 18, 2023, 12:31:23 PM
Bochum scored important 3 points in the game against Union Berlin. The trend from Union Berlin had been slightly upwards after they won against Gladbach. But now they have come back down to earth.
Bochum are now 6 points in front of place 16 and will not remain on a relegation place during the winter break. Especially in view of the game against Leverkusen an important step.
Even though Union Berlin managed to recover with a win against Gladbach, they couldn't do the same against Bochum. It was a crushing defeat for Union Berlin and they have missed the chance to move away from the relegation zone. Union Berlin have only collected 10 points so far and the number of points is the same as that of Koln.

But at least Union Berlin still have fewer matches than other teams so they still have good savings for the next match. Bochum has improved their attack and that is an important thing for them to maintain and now their position is quite safe because they are 6 points away from the relegation zone.
2070  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 18, 2023, 12:05:07 PM
The EPL is always a surprising competition because matches that could have been won ended in a draw. Here, Liverpool is clearly the favorite to win against Manchester United, but it seems that even against their rivals, Manchester United doesn't want to be careless and also pay attention to their back line so they don't concede easily. Even though in the end both teams did not score a single goal in this match, they both played very well. Maybe initially everyone thought that Manchester United would lose badly to Liverpool, but Andre Onana's performance in this match was silenced because he was seen repeatedly making saves when Liverpool had a chance to score.

On the other hand, Manchester United also seemed to be using a bus parking strategy and in fact they realized that was the only thing they could do against Liverpool who were in their best performance. For Manchester United, being able to still get 1 point is a good thing, but for Liverpool this is clearly a loss because they failed to maintain the top position this week and the top position is now occupied by Arsenal.
2071  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 18, 2023, 11:54:19 AM
In French Soccer League, LOSC vs PSG two teams came to the field to play. In today's match, LOSC and PSG team tied 1-1, neither team could win. Both teams played very well in today's match.  Because neither team could score before halftime. I thought PSG team might win today's match because PSG team is at 1st position in the points table. On the other hand LOSC is at 4th position in the points table.
To be honest, I am not surprised by this result because Lille is not an opponent that can be beaten easily. Even though PSG opened the scoring through a spot kick from Kylian Mbappe in the 66th minute, in fact Lille was still able to equalize in the 90+3 minute through a goal scored by Jonathan David. Obviously this was PSG's fault who couldn't even score a goal in a normal match and they were lucky enough to get a goal from the penalty spot and if that didn't happen it's not impossible that Lille would have won.

However, I quite appreciate Lille's performance in this match because they succeeded in blocking every attack from PSG and they were able to make the match end in a draw. Certainly, quite a lot of bettors have suffered losses through this match and perhaps no one expected the match to end in a draw.
2072  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 18, 2023, 11:44:46 AM


The draw for the round of 16 of the Champions League 23/24 has been completed and we can see that some of the results are quite good. Maybe I'm quite fixated on the Barcelona vs Napoli match later because this is also the dream of coach Maurizio Sarri, who really wants to meet Barcelona through his interview a few days ago. The last meeting between Barcelona and Napoli took place in the 19/20 season and it also happened in the round of 16, but it was Barcelona who won the match on aggregate.

Apart from that, Inter vs Altetico is also very exciting, followed by Real Madrid vs Leipzig and apart from that, I think it's an ordinary match. Manchester City will play Copenhagen and we definitely know who the winner will be. Likewise Porto vs Arsenal and even though Porto will make things a little difficult for Arsenal, I think Arsenal will still be able to qualify for the quarter-finals. The round of 16 matches are still very far away and it will start in mid-February next year.
2073  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 17, 2023, 08:11:18 PM
There were doubts about winning because Arsenal were unable to score a single goal in the first half, but in the second half a glimmer of hope began to emerge and the opening goal was scored by Gabriel Jesus in the 55th minute and closed with a goal scored by Kai Havertz at the end of the match. Actually, Brighton played quite well because they managed to withstand every attack from Arsenal, but it looks like they couldn't last much longer because Arsenal really needed points to catch up with Liverpool. Well, the Liverpool vs Manchester United match ended in a goalless draw so Arsenal managed to occupy the top position this week and only had a 1 point difference from Liverpool.
2074  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 17, 2023, 08:00:42 PM
Marseille returned with a win at home and this makes the winning trend get better every week. Marseille took the lead with 2 goals in the first half which made them almost complete the win at home from the first half. Maybe Clemont was not a match for Marseille but at least they responded with 1 goal in the second half.

A narrow win for Marseille with a score of 2-1 and fortunately Clermont was not able to equalize with the remaining minutes and I think Marseille must be able to increase their number of goals and not be quickly satisfied with the two goals they have scored. Of course, it would be risky if one day the opponent managed to hold a draw or even reverse the situation. Marseille rose to 6th in the standings and has the same points as Lens.
2075  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 17, 2023, 07:48:38 PM
Winning has become Leverkusen's routine so far and they have beaten visiting team Frankfurt with a score of 3-0 without reply. Even though in the previous match, Frankfurt beat Bayern Munich with a landslide score, but against Leverkusen they returned to being an ordinary team. Maybe Leverkusen was too great for Frankfurt so defeat was inevitable.

Leverkusen is still at the top of the Bundesliga standings until week 15 and it looks like they will continue to try their points advantage over Bayern Munich until the following week. Xabi Alonso's squad is so well organized that any team would find it very difficult to find gaps in the mistakes made by Leverkusen and congratulations for this countless victory for Leverkusen.
2076  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 17, 2023, 07:22:29 PM
It seems the bad financial situation is just putting Barcelona under more pressure because Claudio Echeverriinthe Argentinian player who has the same playing style as Messi and people think this young talent can shine for his team like Messi but Barcelona cannot hire him because of the financial issues they have in the team. In fact, Claudio Echeverri, the player of the Atlético River Plate is even interested in joining Barcelona but he should wait to see if Barcelona can have a better financial situation in the future or not.


I really feel bad for Barcelona right now. It hurts to see a club with such a long past having money problems. As for Claudio Echeverri, its too bad that money problems are stopping what could be a good addition to the team. While Echeverri isnt Messi (because really, who is?), he's really good at what he does. It might be too much to compare him to Messi, though. The way Echeverri plays is unique, and we shouldnt expect him to be "the next Messi." For Barcelona, its clear that the money mistakes they made in the past are coming back to hurt them. This is a tough lesson in being responsible with money and planning ahead. They need to make a better plan, and right now it seems like the most important thing is to strengthen their defense line.
Claudio Echeverri's appearance began to appear when he defended Argentina at the U17 World Cup in Indonesia some time ago and indeed his skills are unique to the point of being compared to Lionel Messi. But it's not the media's job if they don't compare the two players even though it's clear the differences are so big. Lionel Messi is one of the GOATs and it is not easy to consider new young players as his successors.

All the media often get involved if the player has skills similar to Lionel Messi, but actually that's not what happens. Regarding the rumors about Barcelona, I think this is too fast and it is not certain that his performance will be good at Barcelona. There there will be more pressure and it will not be easy mentally for young players to join the club. But again, Barcelona had to pay quite a lot of money for this player and as we know, it seems that Barcelona doesn't have the money to do that.
2077  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 17, 2023, 04:32:53 PM
Actually, Napoli's victory over Cagliari is not something to be proud of. The reason is that Napoli faced a weak team this season and even though they won by a narrow score, Napoli should have been able to do more than that. I feel that Napoli are not completely good and it is possible that they will drop points again against a team that is balanced or stronger.

We know that Napoli are not as strong as last season and their performance is quite questionable, so when playing against a team that is just as strong, we will definitely be quite doubtful when betting on Napoli. Their challenge will be seen next week when they play away to the Olimpico Stadium, home to Roma, and that will be strong evidence that they have returned to their form.
Cagliari was not a strong squad from the start so seeing Napoli win the match yesterday was not that surprising. And yeah, that's normal. In fact, seeing Napoli's goal conceded 1 goal was a visible weakness in the match for Napoli's back line which Mazzarri had to fix. And we cannot use Napoli's victory against Cagliari as a benchmark that Napoli has recovered. Maybe I will also start to judge Napoli to return to their best quality if in the next match they can win against AS Roma. But for now I appreciate V.Osimhen who managed to contribute to Napoli's 2 goals, namely V.Osimhen made 1 goal and 1 assist which is quite good.
Indeed, this is a normal thing and should not be brought up and I would be prouder if Napoli could win the match against a similar team. But yes, this is a pretty good result as Napoli need points to maintain their current position. Osimhen performed well but it has become commonplace when he can only do it in weak teams and if he also did the same against Juventus or Inter maybe it would be something that doesn't need to be discussed.

Apart from that, Napoli will not be able to just sit still against Roma and be able to prove the expectations of some people to immediately get up and close the match with maximum results. Napoli must take advantage of Lukaku's absence due to a red card to score first and increase its attacking effectiveness.
2078  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 17, 2023, 04:08:39 PM
Getafe performed brilliantly when they played away to Sevilla headquarters and they convincingly won with a score of 0-3. It was a big win and who would have thought that Sevilla would be rendered immobile at home. Each Getafe goal was scored by Mayoral, Mata and Greenwood. Actually, Sevilla had quite a chance, but it all felt in vain because none of them scored.

Getafe is increasingly confident of moving into the top 10 of the standings and Sevilla is increasingly falling behind at the bottom of the table and is even approaching the relegation zone. If Sevilla continues like this, it is not impossible that they will be relegated this season with weaknesses that they have not yet corrected.
2079  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 17, 2023, 12:34:06 PM


Surely everyone remembers the score of this match and yes it was the last Liverpool vs Manchester United meeting at Anfield with a very tragic score for the Red Devils. Seven goals without reply and that proves Liverpool's ball is merciless, especially against their eternal rival. History will be etched again in the next match which will also bring together the same match between Liverpool vs Manchester United at Anfiled and what will be the score in this match later?

If you look at the performance of the two teams, of course Liverpool is still the better one because not only are they at the top of the temporary EPL standings but they continue to conquer the winning trend. Time and time again Liverpool won games dramatically in the final minutes of the match and they did it with a winning mentality. Meanwhile, Manchester United continues to decline after last week losing to Bournemouth with a landslide score and in the Champions League they were eliminated after losing against Bayern Munich. The team coached by Erik Ten Hag seems to have no hope left and it is clear that Liverpool will win this match again, even with a landslide score considering that Onana still often makes blunders.
2080  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 17, 2023, 12:18:16 PM
This week is really wonderful for Leipzig. Because they won their game against Hoffenheim first. Dortmund lost two points against Augsburg in the meantime which helped Leipzig get away from them more in the standings. Probably Bayern Munich will beat Stuttgart home today as well which will make Leipzig capture the third place.

But I believe we will see a great competition for top 4 positions among Leipzig, Stuttgart and Dortmund until the end of the season. Maybe Dortmund are 5 points behind Stuttgart right now but I think they will stay in this competition anyway. If they can't finish in top 4 then probably Terzic might get sacked.  Sad
The results were quite complicated for several teams at the top of the Bundesliga and Leipzig's victory was really sweet, especially since it was a home win for them. Dortmund disappointed his fans again and also the bettors definitely lost money betting on him. I don't know what is happening with Dortmund because lately they have become increasingly unclear and have only managed to secure 1 win in the last month and with this result it is quite clear they are not the same title contenders as the previous season. The draw against Augsburg was regrettable and they cannot continue like this in the future.

Bayern Munich played a pretty strong match against Stuttgart and Thomas Tuchel certainly doesn't want to be crushed again after suffering a heavy defeat against Frankfurt last week. Maybe that could happen for Edin Terzic considering that so far Dortmund has never been out of the top 4 competition and if that happens then Dortmund will look for a new coach next season.
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