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20781  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoinica MtGox account compromised on: July 13, 2012, 01:54:50 PM
Last thing I heard was it took weeks to transfer 1000.00 dwolla, weeks for SEPA transfers.. When did you start processing INSTANT 40K USD withdrawals? 

Very good point. 
20782  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoinica MtGox account compromised on: July 13, 2012, 01:41:25 PM
It all seems to convenient to me. After the previous hacks to allow this to happen is b/s.
Another cluster fuck that dirties the Bitcoin name again. I cant wait for the day when inept companies like this are a thing of the past and are stories to be told to scare children.

You'll be waiting a long time.

As long as there are people who allow it to happen (see post right above mine - "move on, accept our losses"), scams like this will continue!
20783  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoinica MtGox account compromised on: July 13, 2012, 01:31:21 PM
40k USD and 40k BTC were stolen (~350k USD).

"Stolen"?  Police report or it didn't happen.
20784  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [Payout Updates] Bitcoinica site is taken offline for security investigation on: July 11, 2012, 03:18:15 AM
They don't feel it is their fault, didn't identify with Bitcoinica since it was not their baby, and now they feel punished to have to clean up the mess.

Don't believe this for a moment.  Every day that passes bitcoins go up in value, and more people abandon their hopes of seeing their coins again.  They are going to walk away doing quite nicely I think.  I wish I could have their job!
20785  Other / Meta / Re: Forum will be down in an hour on: July 11, 2012, 12:57:06 AM
OK, it's done. Tell me if there are any problems.

Hmmm, based on the delay logging in, I think my password was hashed with 7550 rounds of SHA-256 and salted with 18 bytes of random data.   Sad
20786  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [Payout Updates] Bitcoinica site is taken offline for security investigation on: July 10, 2012, 09:54:23 PM
How about you give some respect to Zhou ?

Why?  He is the one who took on a large project he didn't know how to do, and lost everyone's records.  The entire reason you are all in this mess is because he couldn't be bothered to do a braindead backup.

May I remind you that:

  • On 2012/01/30 Bitcoin Consultancy became Bitcoinica Consultancy Ltd. (*1)
  • On 2012/03/22 Bitcoinica Consultancy Ltd became the General Partner of the newly formed Bitcoinica Limited Partnership (*2)
  • On 2012/03/27 Bitcoin Consultancy was retained to perform a comprehensive security audit. (*3)
  • On 2012/04/24 Bitcoin Consultancy took over ownership and daily operations of Bitcoinica from Zhou (*4)
  • On 2012/05/11 Bitcoinica was hacked due to a root password reset via a compromised email server (belonging to a member of Bitcoin Consultancy). (*5)

IOW: Bitcoin(ica) Consultancy is responsible and liable for what happened on 2012/05/11. Bitcoinica Consultancy (a.k.a. "Intersango Guys") includes Donald, Patrick and Amir. Zhou was merely a Bitcoinica employee at that time (or maybe not even that since he has not been paid for work since 2012/04/01).

References:
1) http://www.business.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/3715077
2) http://www.business.govt.nz/fsp/app/ui/fsp/version/searchSummaryCompanyFSP/FSP207625/4.do?noReturn=true
3) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=81045.msg919130#msg919130 (Tihan's post)
4) http://bitcoinmedia.com/first-licensed-advanced-trading-platform-for-bitcoin/ (written by Donald, CEO of Bitcoin Consultancy)
5) http://bitcoinica.com (post-mortem)

Thank you.  I wasn't aware of the timeline.
20787  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [Payout Updates] Bitcoinica site is taken offline for security investigation on: July 10, 2012, 09:07:07 PM
How about you give some respect to Zhou ?

Why?  He is the one who took on a large project he didn't know how to do, and lost everyone's records.  The entire reason you are all in this mess is because he couldn't be bothered to do a braindead backup.
20788  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [Payout Updates] Bitcoinica site is taken offline for security investigation on: July 03, 2012, 07:09:08 PM
Hire mercenaries to hunt that hacker and recover that DB !!!

There was no hacker.  That's why they haven't involved any authorities.
20789  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 6.66 Mark of the Beast!! ZOMG!!! on: July 01, 2012, 11:17:33 PM
Spoken like a true Christian; I don't want you to understand, just die.

Actually, History has shown with Christians it is understand OR die.


Meanwhile, you will rot in hell for all of eternity inevitably.

I know this isn't true.  If there was a god, why would he give me a brain and then expect me not to use it?   Huh
20790  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 6.66 Mark of the Beast!! ZOMG!!! on: July 01, 2012, 08:40:52 PM
"The world holds two classes of men – intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence." — Abu Ala Al-Ma’arri
20791  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 6.66 Mark of the Beast!! ZOMG!!! on: July 01, 2012, 08:20:54 PM
Talking to the whole of you dumb divided clowns.

That's probably best.  After all, cults do not give you the answers, they just stop you from asking questions.
20792  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 6.66 Mark of the Beast!! ZOMG!!! on: July 01, 2012, 07:39:10 PM
Make no mistake -- I truly don't give a fuck.

Wouldn't care if all of you ended up in hell. So I suggest you kill yourself and get off my dick. Thanks.

Who are you talking to?  You claim you have ignored me.  You also said earlier you would never revisit this thread.

Isn't that common with you cult members?  Only follow your own rules when you want to and ignore them otherwise?
20793  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 6.66 Mark of the Beast!! ZOMG!!! on: July 01, 2012, 07:07:25 PM
I take it as a compliment that you believe I'm strong enough to defend myself. but I'm not stupid. this is a waste of time and henceforth you are ignored. Why? because the very argument you are posing has been answered time and time again. Truth is you're too lazy to look it up or simply interested in mocking me. In other words, you don't really want to know the answer to your questions. Typical demon.

And that is the ONLY WAY you can win this argument - too many facts against you.   Tongue
20794  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 6.66 Mark of the Beast!! ZOMG!!! on: July 01, 2012, 07:05:05 PM
Are you trying to disprove god? lol.. get a life

Here's an idea - why don't you prove god?  You are one very gullible person.   Wink

Do I need to disprove santa or the easter bunny as well?  Both have the same amount of evidence as your god.

"It would be amazing if there was an invisible friend who magically solved all my problems by just asking him. Unfortunately that isn`t true, and I`m not gonna lie to myself into thinking so just because it makes me feel better." — Anonymous
20795  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 6.66 Mark of the Beast!! ZOMG!!! on: July 01, 2012, 05:32:39 PM
Hey ridgemont4, if you believe god has a plan for you, why do you look both ways before crossing the street?

Revelation 12:12 "Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short."

So, does that mean you look both ways because you believe the truck that could hit you is more powerful than your god?
20796  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 6.66 Mark of the Beast!! ZOMG!!! on: July 01, 2012, 05:23:30 PM
Hey ridgemont4, if you believe god has a plan for you, why do you look both ways before crossing the street?
20797  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 6.66 Mark of the Beast!! ZOMG!!! on: July 01, 2012, 05:10:33 PM
How can a good person do evil?

The source of all your faith, the bible, commands you to do evil in certain circumstances.

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.  In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully.  If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.  Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.  Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.  That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.  Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.  Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.  He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors.  "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."  (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)


Of course, we are told not to take things literally.  A "town" probably means another house.  If you find your neighbor does not worship your god, you are commanded to burn his house to the ground.  Your house will become stronger from it.
20798  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 6.66 Mark of the Beast!! ZOMG!!! on: July 01, 2012, 05:06:17 PM
Deuteronomy 20:10-14

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace.  If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor.  But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town.  When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town.  But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder.  You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.


Keep this in mind when the rapture comes.  Attack your neighbor and kill him, and take his wife to do with as you please.  The bible commands it.   Wink
20799  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [Payout Updates] Bitcoinica site is taken offline for security investigation on: June 26, 2012, 06:14:23 PM
Also, it wasn't our staff that lost the backups. Zhou was admining the site, and he had no backups. One of our responsibilities would have been to create a backup system after the takeover.

See, there is a reason children should not be trusted with important projects.   Embarrassed
20800  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [Payout Updates] Bitcoinica site is taken offline for security investigation on: June 26, 2012, 06:13:34 PM
mlawrence, call the police. I will cooperate fully.


I can't call the police!  No crime has happened to me (yet).

If you are so willing to cooperate - why don't you take 10 seconds and call them yourself?

The whole forum is wondering that - WHY?
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