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2081  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 10:04:20 PM
I like the more industrial feel of these 2 non-precious metals. And everyone has gold or silver....

What about Palladium? It's heavily used in modern industry and more expensive than Platinum.

Platinum is more expensive than Paladium.

Don't get that confused.
2082  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 09:57:40 PM
I got no idea what's going on with Nxt.  I hear people talking [...]  But, that's just what I hear,  I got no real clue of what really is happening to this coin.

So you're not even running NRS, just being a gossip girl, did I get that correctly?

No,  we just have a completely refactored version. 
2083  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 09:49:45 PM
Can you please go discuss with FC in his own NEX thread.

It's locked.

Well, could you kindly ask your 'Nxt Posse'  to unlock the thread?
2084  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 09:49:04 PM
Well, I would like to know how Nxt handles a fork.  That's what I'm trying to understand here.

I don't see u trying.

I don't see you with an explanation.

I don't see how you are handling the current Nxt fork that is happening right now.

WHAT FORK IS HAPPENING NOW? U MAD?

fork that was mentioned in this thread happens to people using OLD version of NRS?

Are you really that ignorant or do you just want to spread chaos and misinformation?

I got no idea what's going on with Nxt.  I hear people talking about it being stuck at block X,  of having to wait hours or days to get stuff from BTER and of their accounts getting hacked.  But, that's just what I hear,  I got no real clue of what really is happening to this coin.

The only thing I know about the coin is its source code.
2085  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 09:39:07 PM
Well, I would like to know how Nxt handles a fork.  That's what I'm trying to understand here.

I don't see u trying.

I don't see you with an explanation.

I don't see how you are handling the current Nxt fork that is happening right now.

2086  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 09:35:59 PM
Are you brain dead.... the block chain is a global ledger!

In short, if you got a fork,  you got an inconsistent ledger or in other words and inconsistend database.

It's interesting, do u really believe that u r right?

Well, I would like to know how Nxt handles a fork.  That's what I'm trying to understand here.

Actually,  I want to know if Nxt is a worthless piece of junk or something that is worth building on top of.   So far, it looks like the former, until I can get a better explanation from someone.
2087  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 09:32:45 PM
So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).

What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?

U confuse partitioning of network with partitioning of data storage.

Nxt has very high Availability coz all the data is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain can't be partitioned, that's why Partition tolerance issue doesn't arise at all.

Partition tolerance is important for other data storage schemes, for example, DHT.

Are you brain dead.... the block chain is a global ledger!

In short, if you got a fork,  you got an inconsistent ledger or in other words and inconsistend database.

2088  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 09:26:37 PM
So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).

What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?

You'll find the answer to that question in the source... (yes even the published flawed one)

If you don't know the answer,  then don't pretend the answer is somewhere else.
2089  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 09:24:40 PM
Might perhaps this show that BCNext is one of top cryptographers in the world?

We could ask him to do the audit of NRS crypto algo for 10 BTC...  Grin

I seriously doubt it.   The way he coded the 'secret phrase' stuff.  That was borderline pathetic.

you are a raging retard if you dont understand what this allows.  and its still possible to implement a wallet.dat type of client if so desired.  the fact that you dont seem to understand this tells me you have no clue on how to dev a coin

If you don't think it was pathetic,  then I would argue that you don't have a clue.

I guess for you, it was perfectly okay that folks lost their Nxt because they had a secret phrase of 8 digits.
2090  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 09:19:17 PM
Ok... which part of the the C.A.P. does Nxt preserve?

Nxt has eventual consistency (like Bitcoin). Does this answer ur question?

No it does not,  name 2 out of the 3  of the CAP theorem that is satisfied by Nxt?

Actually it does answer the question. Use the force brain, Luke.

So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).

What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?
2091  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 09:03:19 PM
Ok... which part of the the C.A.P. does Nxt preserve?

Nxt has eventual consistency (like Bitcoin). Does this answer ur question?

No it does not,  name 2 out of the 3  of the CAP theorem that is satisfied by Nxt?

Looks like Nxt is not partition tolerant.... that's it right?

So if I am correct,  NXT guarantees only "availability".

But when the network partitions,  then that's when it can't recover because it doesn't know about forks.

2092  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 09:01:32 PM
I thought a fork was never supposed to happen?   

U was wrong. Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAP_theorem

Ok... which part of the the C.A.P. does Nxt preserve?

2093  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 09:00:24 PM
I seriously doubt it.   The way he coded the 'secret phrase' stuff.  That was borderline pathetic.

I seriously doubt anyone pays attention to ur opinion. No offense.

Caught you again... took that personally right... mr.  BCNxt.

2094  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 08:58:04 PM
I opened a new account for the first two times with 5.10 a few hours ago.  I just upgraded to 5.11 and reopened it just now to try and get the alias after James sent it some NXT.  It is showing zero balance with block 55052 as the last block with a 1 hr plus gap between 55052 and 55051.  Suggestions?

Post 55052 and 55051 blocks data. And pm me with the account number.
      
55052      16147959847405150404      1/31/2014 11:31:58 AM   
34      56'919 + 51      4'451 B   
2      8058897410386517129      3798658 %
   
55051      4598502818845733792      1/31/2014 10:19:24 AM   
5      0 + 5      670 B   
2      2086456349684390030      1899329 %   

Account number on the way via PM.

U r on a fork. Delete *.nxt files and catch the blocks.


Now I am really curious,  how does Nxt recover from a fork?   


I thought a fork was never supposed to happen?   
2095  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 08:54:20 PM
Might perhaps this show that BCNext is one of top cryptographers in the world?

We could ask him to do the audit of NRS crypto algo for 10 BTC...  Grin

I seriously doubt it.   The way he coded the 'secret phrase' stuff.  That was borderline pathetic.
2096  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 08:41:05 PM
Frictionless, I might be open to a 20 BTC bet. If you're interested, let's figure out the conditions in PM along with what odds you are willing to give. I'm John in this article:

http://www.coindesk.com/altcoin-nxt-listed-bter-exchange/

Not to be a douche, but a few BTC doesn't add any excitement to my life... 20 is a different story.



Well,  let me know what the conditions are.  

You are much wealthier than I am, so 20 BTC is a bit rich for my blood.

How about a gentlemanly 2 BTC?  



I'll let some of the other guys grab those bets, I appreciate the response.  I have a few larger bets in escrow right now, not my first rodeo. Smiley

Well I'll take the 20 BTC bet if you're talking about a Nxt clone as the requirements.
2097  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 08:32:37 PM
Frictionless, I might be open to a 20 BTC bet. If you're interested, let's figure out the conditions in PM along with what odds you are willing to give. I'm John in this article:

http://www.coindesk.com/altcoin-nxt-listed-bter-exchange/

Not to be a douche, but a few BTC doesn't add any excitement to my life... 20 is a different story.



Well,  let me know what the conditions are.  

You are much wealthier than I am, so 20 BTC is a bit rich for my blood.

How about a gentlemanly 2 BTC?  



2098  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 08:25:09 PM
Maybe you have a test to verify if something is flawed or not?

Does, Nxt today have a flaw?  If it does not,  then a clone would be sufficient?

Want to take the bet on the premise that Nxt has no flaws as it exists today?

1 BTC... not much... not asking you to sell your house.

For me it's obvious what can be called flawed and what not. Forget about the bet, I believe u r trying to avoid it.

Nah... I'm not avoiding it...  Any bet needs be verifiable.  

If Nxt has no flaws ( according to you ) , then a Nxt clone is sufficient.

If Nxt indeed has flaws,  the we need a test on how to verify if the flaw exists of not.

Sounds pretty fair to me.

1 BTC?  (I need funds for development)
2099  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 08:18:55 PM
"Non-flawe" part needs exact definition to be a valid bet

It doesn't, use common sense.

Maybe you have a test to verify if something is flawed or not?

Does, Nxt today have a flaw?  If it does not,  then a clone would be sufficient?

Want to take the bet on the premise that Nxt has no flaws as it exists today?

1 BTC... not much... not asking you to sell your house.
2100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 08:18:07 PM
Would you like to make a wager on that statement?  BitBet?  Friendly wager?  1 BTC.

What conditions? I may accept this bet.

That FrictionlessCoin will not create a Nxt clone. Pick a time bound.

Non-flawed Nxt clone by the 3rd of April, 2014. 1 BTC, escrow via Anon136, I pay for his service. He will hold 2 BTC and give them to one of us on the 4th of April. Ok?

"Non-flawe" part needs exact definition to be a valid bet


Exactly... needs to be something that can be validated.

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