Do you have now a working pool ?
Or is it still the "secret private" ones...
if it is still the case, it isn't criptsy damaging DMD and actually criptsy problem is quite a good thing
My research suggests that there ARE NO secret pools, but that is still very tentative and I could be wrong. Also, the likelihood of such is very low, as we would have heard about it. In any event, even if they did exist, they certainly aren't having any negative effect on solo mining . . . in so far as my limited research indicates anyway. |
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Saying that Cryptsy issue is in their hands does not cut it. Sorry, nothing personal here, hopefully just good constructive feedback that is helpful, but if you were working for a multinational, you'd have been sacked by now. It's Friday already, and you've given no more information all week than, we're waiting on Cryptsy!
When I have an issue with someone, be it technical, billing, shipping, whatever, I've got an open ticket, an invoice number, whatever, and contact info. I've got up-to-date status reports on the issue. I've got names and numbers (and e-mails) of the people I'm talking to.
thats the way we tryed it.............. still u see where we are regarding cryptsy a new unknown exchange managed to add dmd in one day we offer every help to cryptsy regarding required files blockexplorer and so on but we cant implement it into exchange we have multiple support tickets running in escalation state towards the cryptsy second level support since over 7 days i was working a few years myself in a second level support job i know how to act to get support we did act right we just didnt get it until yet..... Now you tell us.  That's a joke to illustrate my point. You need to be doing everything in your power to get things done, and if you are doing that, you need to communicate what you're doing, and that starts with clear information about the issue(s) to begin with, and that's not just with us, but with the entire world: setting the record straight as it were and creating clear and positive expectations for the future. |
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Time For Serious Damage Control If you let your guard down with a negatively divergent situation, it can quickly snowball out of control. DMD has lost (and continues to lose) boat loads of promotional capital, and the situation, far from reversing that trend of falling prestige (regardless of whether it's justifiable or not - the mere negative perception is damage enough), it seems to be getting worse.
What is needed in times like these is what has become known as "Damage Control". That is what I'm talking about here: DMD is in danger of sinking if we don't reverse the current trend quickly.
Saying that DMD is currently a solo miner's paradise may sound good to solo miners, but to the rest of the world it sounds like a loser's consolation.
Now, if "solo miner's paradise" were to come at the beginning of a "PR release" that was followed by something more positive, forward looking, and professional, like "while we are very satisfied with our initial success to date in converting DMD into a solo miner's paradise, that is only the beginning in this first of a kind, revolutionary undertaking, and we are actively working to resolve *xyz issue* with pool mining (stating exactly what the issues are), get the coin trading again on Cryptsy (stating exactly what the issues are) and getting DMD listed on other exchanges, etc., etc., etc.", the perception then immediately moves positive to one of an ongoing, yet quite challenging, project being carried out by very capable people and that is being met with success.A crisis communication plan and effective public relations handling will be the difference between your crisis hurting or enhancing your business. How can a crisis enhance your business? By the way you handle it. If you are truthful and react quickly, your business may actually enhance its reputation for being honest, community minded, genuinely concerned and proactive. http://www.evancarmichael.com/Public-Relations/334/Preparing-for-Damage-Control.html
What do you think BitCoinMagazine or CryptoPros are thinking about recent developments in DMD? Do you think they are talking about the truthfulness and openness of the Dev team? Do you think they are itching to get in touch with DMD to do an article on this revolutionary change over? Or do you think they are snickering to themselves and maybe even speculating that the blockchain stop at 386228 was caused by a Dev mistake?
Perception and suspicion rule the day when truthful data is not forthcoming. People think the worst! Whether or not it's true! Preventing that is what damage control is all about (to begin with). The blockchain stopped at 386228 and we still don't know why! This forced an accelerated algo change that came with plenty of expected issues, but we still don't know what those issues were caused by or what was fixed! Damage control gets that info out there along with the current actions being taken to remedy the issues, and, remember, if done right, it can even enhance your reputation!
Saying that the Cryptsy issue is in their hands does not cut it. Sorry, nothing personal here, hopefully just good constructive feedback that is helpful, but if you were working for a multinational, you'd have been sacked by now. It's Friday already, and you've given no more information all week than, we're waiting on Cryptsy!
When I have an issue with someone, be it technical, billing, shipping, whatever, I've got an open ticket, an invoice number, whatever, and contact info. I've got up-to-date status reports on the issue. I've got names and numbers (and e-mails) of the people I'm talking to.
Adequate reporting here on the Cryptsy issue would have looked more like this:
Monday: we are in direct contact with Cryptsy
Tuesday: Cryptsy is doing a manual network sync (because they want to for some reason)
Wednesday: Cryptsy is testing wallet transactions
Thursday: Cryptsy has escalated the issue for final approval/resumption of trading
For example.
It's Friday now, an entire week has passed, and we're hearing the same thing over and over again about Cryptsy. It's time to pick up the phone (if you haven't already), and start kicking ass, or the next thing you'll know, we'll be hearing about how Cryptsy doesn't work weekends. . . again. It's time to start talking to other exchanges as well (of course, this requires a PR piece for each new exchange you're talking to . . .), and it's not like they're exactly scarce: http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/v2/markets/info/ It's time to get in contact with other Dev teams if necessary - the DGB Devs are fantastic and very willing to lend a hand . . . and probably very interested in following DMD's lead. Hey, maybe it's even time to hire a freelance, like, Vitalik Buterin, for example (and with that you'd even get two birds with one stone). http://bitcoinmagazine.com/author/vitalik-buterin/
It's time to make things happen, first with good damage control: honest release of information, and all the information, otherwise you leave yourselves open to doubts and suspicions. Second, with a strong plan of action regarding the current issues as reported in that previously mentioned release of information. Third, hard work follow-through on the plan of action.
It's time to get in touch with all your professional contacts. It's time to call in all favors. It's time to ask for favors. It's time to press your business partners like Cryptsy (if you don't they'll take you for a fool, put your issue on the backburner, and deal with other people who are pressuring them more). It's time to find out who is really your friend, and who isn't. It's time to separate the men from the boys.Please, be clear, this is no "boardroom" shouting match - this is only stating the facts of life as they really are. Any other interpretation of this writing would be considered as completely juvenile and unprofessional. The truth often hurts, but it's also often what it takes to get things back on track. The worst thing anyone can do with truthful facts is to get defensive and lock oneself into a losing proposition. Please don't fall into that trap. Make reality work in your favor instead. Turn the negatives into positives by actively and honestly dealing with them (and if you have been, but not informing, then adjust for that error and correct the problem of misinformation and speculation that is derived from a lack of information, and actively create a positive perception instead). Remember, "if you are truthful and react quickly, your business may actually enhance its reputation for being honest, community minded, genuinely concerned and proactive." |
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Plus speed does count now since there's a lot of similar projects to DMD like bitbar etc. The first one to be established is going to stick for a long time.
Like litecoin. Really, what does it do any better/different? It's almost like a perfect clone. It was just there first so people still stick to it.
bitbar exist since ages same as diamond  we made the mistake once to rank speed release above quality release we wont do it twice.............. as stated multiple times wallet stable network stable ahmed plan to release a proprietary pool solution working with actual wallet this give us any time we need to build the release that diamond deserve and no we wont give a date beside "its done when its done" the only really urgend point is cryptsy and that is not in our hands we offer them any help they need but there is much silence on their side
We need a multi-front PR educational/informational campaign.
We need to get all the info out there we possibly can, starting with the successes we've had, but not ignoring the issues that we are still addressing, and that, of course, with the most positive "spin" possible that points to the positive resolutions we see for those issues in the very near future.
Taking our time to get it right is one thing, taking our time to inform the world about what we're doing is quite another! |
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so a new upcoming exchange was able get diamond running i guess we should use it to show cryptsy what business they waste by not get their deposit/withdraws going.....
More status updates from the DMD team would certainly be a positive for all concerned: thorough updates on everything. Transparency, transparency, transparency. Disclosure, disclosure, disclosure. What's been done? What's being done? On all fronts and concerning all aspects of current, critical DMD development and PR.  funny! The coin has been launched in July 2013! The coin has just upgraded from Scrypt to Groestl algo, that is why the pools are not up to speed yet. Duh!! Thus my question! Not sure what's funny here. The question is when will the coin VERSION 2 be launched! Duh!! If you would bother to read the treads for 2 minutes, you would notice that it was re-started on April 30th. Mining solo for now. You can do your google search on mining solo also - great sites to read. Sorry, but I won't spoon feed Newbies - google and learn, like we all did.
@nerioseole, it took me less time to be helpful than you spent on being a prick. Why don't you try being constructive? I gave you a great opening to shine with some collaborative knowledge sharing here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580725.msg6604921#msg6604921 but not a peep from you on it.Now the DMD price is tanking again. Please fix things soon or this'll end up like most alts. A long time nothing.. then spike and finally a crash flat down forever.. This is promising, but we need a. finally working pools to make mining accessable to the average user b. cryptsy desperately needs to fix their side on the wallet (they cant be seriously taking THIS long) Maybe you devs can talk to them? Your messages might weigh more than normal users. Users cry for any crapcoin to be added so they might not even read that stuff. c. working PoS and a good explanation and guide in the first post for anyone to see. Or even better in the wallet since that's what users are looking at mostly. d. as soon as everything works.. marketing. If it is to become a gold like commodity in the cryptoworld we need it classy though. No flashy fx by some 16 y/o who downloaded photoshop but something classy that shows why DMD is better than 99999 other alts. e. total coverage on all exchanges I was shocked to discover we're not on bter Please everybody help with whatever you can do. Coders help with technical testing, users can talk to exchanges. Maybe some of you know any exchange operators? And marketing wise please dont even think about these fuckin gambling sites.. they are a gold mine to their operators, but they shouldnt be associated with something serious like DMD. It should be associated with something like that for example: http://www.mintagemastermind.com/index.htmlPlus speed does count now since there's a lot of similar projects to DMD like bitbar etc. The first one to be established is going to stick for a long time. Like litecoin. Really, what does it do any better/different? It's almost like a perfect clone. It was just there first so people still stick to it. So I hope the typing was useful to some extent at least and we as community plus devs get this going right. You can only mess up so many times before the mass loses faith/interest.
BTW, my 24 losing streak was just that, a run of very bad luck. Yesterday was the exact opposite where I did almost double normal expectations (190%). Also doing optimizing with my configurations . . . still haven't checked what happened overnight . . . |
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Still solo mining. 24 hours now WITHOUT a single coin though, 36 hours with just 1 (one machine that's never had even one), and that after getting off to a nice start that met with expectations. The overall diff picture hasn't changed in that time (roughly the same as 3 days ago while trending ever so slightly higher). What has changed was the mention of "secret" private pools.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580725.msg6552787#msg6552787https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580725.msg6550578;topicseen#msg6550578If they're big, then that puts the little solo miner out of business. But is that really true? Statistically speaking, my miners should have the same probabilities of solving a block (as in BLOCK!) regardless of whether the entire network were all one huge pool except for little old me, or the entire network were nothing but solo miners with me included, correct? 1 big pool + little old me = same probabilities = all solo miners with little old me included, correct?
The so called "lottery ticket" is exactly the same for little old me, and it's completely independent
of the make-up of the rest of that particular statistical universe, correct? 24 hours with zilch is really stacking the odds though.Something smells fishy. Anyone else experiencing something similar? Got up in the middle of the night to take a piss, and it came to me, it's called: LATENCY and I then proceded to think to myself, "you idiot"! If it's taking forever to submit, you're not going to get
anything, even if your theoretical odds are 1 in 75 to
1 in 125 (depending on the diff at any given moment). And that's not to mention what would be happening
if huge concentrated hashrates (secret pools)
are right next to active nodes. Out of curiosity, I pinged the nodes in the original launch post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580725.msg6507800#msg6507800 and they all timed out.  I'd post further findings, but since nobody else has had similar problems, why bother? I'm going back to bed. I've got a long, long hard day tomorrow. Good luck to the other two or three of you who are troubleshooting. |
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Still solo mining. 24 hours now WITHOUT a single coin though, 36 hours with just 1 (one machine that's never had even one), and that after getting off to a nice start that met with expectations. The overall diff picture hasn't changed in that time (roughly the same as 3 days ago while trending ever so slightly higher). What has changed was the mention of "secret" private pools.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580725.msg6552787#msg6552787https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580725.msg6550578;topicseen#msg6550578If they're big, then that puts the little solo miner out of business. But is that really true? Statistically speaking, my miners should have the same probabilities of solving a block (as in BLOCK!) regardless of whether the entire network were all one huge pool except for little old me, or the entire network were nothing but solo miners with me included, correct? 1 big pool + little old me = same probabilities = all solo miners with little old me included, correct?
The so called "lottery ticket" is exactly the same for little old me, and it's completely independent
of the make-up of the rest of that particular statistical universe, correct? 24 hours with zilch is really stacking the odds though.Something smells fishy. Anyone else experiencing something similar? Add: @ahmed_bodi, will be sending you some hashpower sometime tomorrow - I want to give this some more time with concentrated hashpower for statistical reasons first. Do I need to create a login or do I just use my DMD address? |
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Now that I've realized (duh) that the rise in difficulty is directly correlated to the rise in network hashrate . . .Current “last 24 hours” Diamond Difficulty Stats Source: sph-sgminer (5/6/2014 11:00:00 - 5/7/2014 11:00:00 GMT] Peak High 66 Average 40.78 Mean 40 Trough Low 25 Using an average extrapolated Hashrate to Difficulty ratio of 67.5 : 1 we can generate these estimated hashrate stats:- peak high network hashrate would be ~4.46 GH/s - average network hashrate would be ~2.75 GH/s - mean network hashrate would be ~2.70 GH/s - low network hashrate would be ~ 1.69 GH/s Converted into previous scrypt equivalents, the current equivalent hashrate numbers would be something along the following:399 - 446 MH/s 246 - 275 MH/s 241 - 270 MH/s 151 - 169 MH/s This is still quite phenomenal, especially considering that there are no pools
and things are limited to solo mining! A success story in the works.
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diff 48 - 3,505.43 MH/s Gröstl networkhashrate - around 350 MH/s scrypt hashingpower
35 - diff 2390.291173MH/s - around 230 MH/s scrypt hashingpower
Okay, understood. A current diff of 35 with Groestl would be the rough equivalent of a previous 3.5 diff with scrypt. Basically the same 10 : 1 change that we've seen in hashrate terms (although I calculate that my machines have an average increase on the order of 8.94 : 1). So a current 40 diff is really the same as a 4 from before, giving us (using my 35 guesstimate) an approximate current scrypt network equivalent hashrate of 270 MH/s or an approximate groestl network hashrate of 2.7 GH/s. As you said, not bad considering that it's all solo mining!!! More than 3 times the average network hashrate from April 8 to April 21.A rule of thumb to determine how many DMD you will mine in a day:
15 divided by the averaged diff, multiplied by the MH of your rig.
Ex: 15 / 40 * 80 MH = 30 DMD per day.
EDIT2: BTW GRS (or any other Groestl-based coin) is the same formulae above, just multiply the result by the reward value (currently at 353 GRS/block).
Very nice. Thanks for that. |
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Phenomenal Network Hashrate in Diamond Happening?Okay, if we correlate previous mining difficulty with previous network hashrate by taking the April 20 low in difficulty of 0.9, the April 22 high of 3.6, the April 23 high of 4.8, the April 24 low of 3.2, the April 26 high of 5.5, and the April 27 spike high of 9.9 and correlating those dates and values to the hashrate values of the same dates, that is to say, with the April 20 low of 61.5 MH/s, the April 22 high of 225 MH/s, the April 23 high of 327.2 MH/s, the April 24 low of 206.2 MH/s, the April 26 high of 375.7 MH/s, and the April 27 spike high of 735.2 MH/s, we can calculate an average ratio of hashrate to difficulty. Data Source: CoinWarz61.5 MH/s to 0.9 = 68.33 : 1 225 MH/s to 3.6 = 62.5 : 1 327.2 MH/s to 4.8 = 68.17 : 1 206.2 MH/s to 3.2 = 64.38 : 1 375.7 MH/s to 5.5 = 68.31 : 1 735.2 MH/s to 9.9 = 74.27 : 1 With an average ratio of network hashrate to difficulty from our sampling being 67.49 : 1, and using a low-ball guesstimate of average current difficulty of 35, could we then safely estimate a current hashrate of approximately 2.36 GH/s in old scrypt equivalent terms and 20.86 GH/s in new Groestl algo hashrate terms? That would mean that we've got one hell of a network hashrate happening! (if my assumptions are correct) And that, of course, would mean there's a hell of a lot of interest in mining Diamonds!!! Extremely positive for Diamond if you ask me. BTW, many thanks for the contributions, even if they're mainly symbolic and not going to make me rich.
It's the “psychic income” that comes from knowing you felt it important enough to take the time that is greatly appreciated. You know what they say, it's the thought that counts!
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Okay, I've decided to solo mine. I was looking at my payouts from where I was mining Groestl, and with those payouts being at the bottom of the daily estimated range over a period of 48 to 72 hours (depending on the machine) on a pool accounting for around 25% of the network hashrate which should adequately smooth outliers and give an accurate long term average mine rate, I've decided that solo mining can't be worse, and with it now being stable, I think we should do our best to help get everyone up and running. Here's a quick, appetizer to hopefully get your mouths watering. The abridged, super simplified, solo mining HOWTO Okay, this assumes you already have your rig built, OS and miner installed and configured. (I think that is a safe assumption for anyone who is waiting for a pool to come online.) Solo mining, single rigONLY 3 THINGS TO DO: - set up your wallet config file
- set up your wallet to run as a server
- set up your miner batch file to point to the wallet
Wallet config file key items: everything, but there's only 10 lines Cut and paste what's posted here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580725.msg6507800#msg6507800 into your diamond.conf file inside the same directory/folder where your wallet is found Above the “rpcport” line, add the following line: rpcallowip=127.0.0.1 Change the rpcuser and rpcpassword to something of your choosing Save it as diamond.conf. Create a shortcut of your Diamond wallet (diamond-qt.exe), right click, click properties append --server to the end of the TARGET line(Example: "C:\Users\User\Wallets\Diamond Coin v2.0.1\diamond-qt.exe"--server) Save it and run your Diamond Wallet as a server using that newly created shortcut. Setup your bat/script startup file by SIMPLY CHANGING 3 THINGS: your -o -u and -p switches (everything else stays the same) -o 127.0.0.1:17772 -u your chosen user name that you gave to rpcuser in your diamond.conf file -p your chosen password that you gave to rpcpassword in your diamond.conf file Save and run. You're now mining solo. Multiple Rig SetupsAll the same as above, except you need to: In your diamond.conf file change 127.0.0.1 to your subnet, for example 192.168.0.* (that's the most common, you could go with 192.168.*.* when in doubt) (Don't forget to create any necessary firewall exceptions on your wallet machine.) Change the -o switch in your bat/script startup file to the IP of your wallet machine, followed by a colon, and the rpcport number used (for example 192.168.0.30:17772 ) And you're off and running mining. This was meant to be deliberately simplified so as to remove some of the fear from this 'endeavor' and encourage newbies to get their feet wet. Hopefully you'll all find lots of other helping hands here to help fill in the gaps and correct any mistakes I've made and/or add to what I've left out.
It's easy as 1-2-3. Good luck, and good mining!And as nerioseole reminded us, there's a wealth of info out there, starting with google https://www.google.com/#q=multiple+rig+solo+mining , but I doubt you'll need it. |
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Add: If what I'm seeing on this block crawler reflects anything remotely close to what's happening in real time, then this would be one of the best definitions of madness that any of us will ever see.
No it's the database that's being rebuilt. It just means that we are half way with downloading block chain. It has been said that block exlprer is off for maintenance No worries we are all sane That's a relief. Yes I do remember reading that, and now I'm reminding myself about how long it takes.  And that's a clear message that I need to take a break.  Good luck, keep your sanity, and all my best. |
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HR, please give it a rest, will you?
The chain stopped at 386228 BTW. When the new algo was put in place, it quickly build a diff, with only few miners, but very similar to the diff seen in March and April.
DMD diff (and price) went up 4x starting on April 21st, when rumors started to emerged that DMD was about to change algo. When the chain stops accidentally on April 30th, the dev-team was forced to come up with the new version as soon as possible.
There is nothing unfair about the restart of the coins. The fact that you may not had the skills, or experience to mine when the dev team announced the re-launch is your problem, not a fairness problem. Mining solo skills can be acquired, simply by doing some googling. Regarding the crashes, being in IT, you could have switched easily to Linux and start mining like many others did. Once the problematic leveldb directory was changed, mining was easy. (I just copied and pasted a leveldb directory from another working coin and it fixed the compiling and crash problems). Or compile your own Windows version for that matter.
Anyways, DMD is mining well now, and pools will come for those who don't want to google and learn how to mine solo. GRS is also another good coin, it depends who you want to support. Even DMD team recommended everyone to start mining GRS while they were fixing the code... so that miners could gain the experience with Groestl algo.
Have you read somewhere where I asked how to solo mine? Have you read somewhere where I complained about missing out? I think not. I think the answer is the complete opposite, that is if you had read.If you had read, you'd have certainly come to the conclusion that I am defending the community as a whole, and openly questioning and troubleshooting some of the issues. But I've said all that, and anyone with a half a brain who has read already knows where I'm coming from and what I'm about. It's quite offensive to hear such a condescending, pedantic, and unjustifiable rant. You really should find some manners, at very least, and then you might start working on basic logical reasoning. |
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This needs a relaunch, IMHO
All you can do is solo mine, I have been solo mining for a few days now with all these wallet issues. I have a decent amount.
The problem is there are no pools, so if you are able to solo mine and it isnt that hard, but the wallet has been an issue for most people that have all missed out and now the difficulty is just too insane for small miners.
As I said, i been solo mining for a few days and have a decent amount but feel like Ive cheated whilst people waited for a new wallet and didnt keep pushing their existing wallets to open to sync then mine. Lord knows it took me at least half a day to get the wallet to work/sync then mine. Reboot machine and having to reconfigure the fickle wallet back up to solo mine.
Thats just my thoughts on the matter. Not trolling, or attacking anyone.
Unless someone has a working DMD pool ?
WayForward, can you give us a number of coins mined per 1Mh/s every hour?TIA Honestly I couldnt tell you, but since their first wallet release till about a day ago with this algo change I manage to mine close too 1000. I realize there was lack of competition early on and people didnt like the wallet that kep crashing and gave up till it was fixed a few days later...which is my point people waited, when they didnt really need too. I didnt completly dedicate my rigs to it 24/7 but I threw 15m/h at it. Ive since stopped to try and let others get in and get some coins since there is no other way for them to get some. That is the only reason why i felt it was wise to relaunch. Otherwise its getting back to the stage where dmds are now rare again. Anyway good luck, ill check back in from time to time.
For the rest of us, GRS has kept us in the game in the meantime. I don't feel like I have lost out, but you are right, it wasn't fair.
That having been said, and knowing what we know (current block count of 163298 being the latest), I think a mining shutdown (not testing, just mining) as of now would be the most appropriate thing to do.
Time to take a time out.
 Add: If what I'm seeing on this block crawler reflects anything remotely close to what's happening in real time, then this would be one of the best definitions of madness that any of us will ever see. |
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A Quick Note to the CommunityThis is not the time to be alarmed, nor are we dealing with something of such magnitude that should cause alarm. Bugs happen. Not everything in this world is perfect. In fact, most everything is not, and computer science is no exception by any stretch of the imagination. Bugs happen, and nobody's perfect. My God, what is Microsoft's threshold for known issues for a new OS release? 2,500? I'm not sure if I have that number correct or if it's actually higher, but that's the number of KNOWN issues they have to get below in order to bring a new OS to market. 2,500 known issues are your 'freebies' when you buy a new MS release!
My hope is to put things into perspective here. The DMD relaunch issues are really quite minor issues in my opinion. Issues nonetheless, and issues that must be dealt with, but certainly manageable and, ultimately, fixable.
In my first post at Diamond I said that the most important thing was getting things right, and that everything else was secondary. http://dmdcoin.net/forum/index.php/topic,688.msg1562.html#msg1562 That was heartily seconded by DMD team members, and rightfully so: what matters is not how long it takes you, but whether or not you get it right.
We should all be very calm and very relaxed. I've said before in this same thread that I think this Dev team is a group of very capable VISIONARIES, and I still maintain that. Hey, nobody's a magician. One thing I always tell my customers is that I'm an IT technician, not a magician. We all need realistic expectations, and we can't expect the impossible.
Going beyond their visionary aptitudes, what's more important still is their level of commitment. I wrote something here on BitCoinTalk a while back expressing what I think about commitment and how it relates to and will influence future crytocurrency success or failure. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=557086.0 Commitment is THE KEY, and would anyone dare say that these guys are not committed? Do doubt about it, the job will get done – where there's a will, there's a way (and they have the necessary knowledge to do it as well). It's not a question of if, rather simply a question of when, and it will be done right, and will have been well worth the wait. We should all be 100% certain of that outcome given their level of commitment.
Of course, this is to say nothing about our level of commitment, that is to say, the community's commitment to work with the Devs and with each other as well. With regards to my tongue-in-cheek comments about fairness from earlier on, and comments made by others in this same regard, like some have said, “shit happens”. On a practical level, there's nothing we can do about someone having taken advantage of the situation by solo mining “easy” Diamonds. On the other hand, perhaps that's all folly to begin with, the matter of “easy” Diamonds that is. “Easy” Diamonds? Were there really any easy Diamonds? By my calculations, the rate of mining using the “temporary” blockchain info https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580725.msg6508420#msg6508420 (supposing that that info is accurate, of course) is about 1/3 that of regular mining, that is to say about one new block every three minutes and not every minute. That is pretty miserable profitability when compared to what you could have done mining Groestlcoin in the meantime . . . unless it's just a handful of opportunists who are taking down all those Diamonds. Even if those few Diamonds are falling into relatively few hands, I can assure you that at current exchange rates the average Diamonds being mined daily don't translate into much more than $250 USD daily. Nobody's getting rich on this, and it's really not worth our time.
As for the rest of us, if we had all taken cryptonit's advice and set up our mining rigs to mine Groestl in anticipation, we would have all been mining the most profitable coin while waiting.
we are eagerly waiting for the new wallet and hope you will also show some instructions on the groestl mining because no one really knows how to mine in this algorithm properly.
use the time to learn how to mine groestlcoin that knowledge will work 1:1 for diamond mining too later just other pools here are the batch files i use for amd290 amd280 http://dmdcoin.net/forum/index.php/topic,725.msg1689.html#msg1689
Here's a referral to my Ubuntu HowTo from cryptonit:meanwhile good news a nice guide how to mine groestl algo with linux http://dmdcoin.net/forum/index.php/topic,355.msg1701.html#msg1701and his impression: Like it's Christmas. Running at 62º Celsius! Pulling 179-180 W from the wall. That's phenomenal. Down from 325-330. Just slightly over half. My electricity bill is going to love this. Maintaining an average hashrate of 4.6 - 5 Mh/s and generating the number of coins expected. I'm getting a full performance confirm all the way around. The profitability picture changes radically with this. (I'm getting very interested in looking at putting some CPUs to work as well, but don't have the slightest idea as to the profitability of that . . . yet). update: my own impression mining with two rigs 3x amd 290 and 6x amd280 with scrypt i did use 3000w all together with groestl im at 1500w all together and silent using windows 8.1 one one and windows 7 on other rig
When will it be time to point our miners at DMD once again? Here are the expectations that the Devs have given us:Hello community,
I just wanted to give you an update on the progress. We have everything in place, now we’re rebuilding the database which can take hours as you can imagine, and very often experience yourself. Downloading the blockchain is the part that slows the whole process down and it’s something that no one can do anything about. It just needs to sync on its own.
What happens next?
Next we pass the code to:
1. Cryptsy – they need to resync and test it.
2. Mining pools - they need to resync as well and adapt the software.
3. Community – you need to resync it and continue to enjoy the New Diamond Coin.
As you can see there are time blocks on the way to full release. It’s not ideal and it’s definitely not the way we’ve planned it. But life is life and we are doing everything we can to deal with it to minimise discomfort caused.
Stay tuned. It’s coming …
here one can see that we are a old coin our blockchain is long...... and new optimized database of wallet need a complete resync one time thats the price we have to pay to have a faster loading and better performing wallet later im sorry we didnt realize before that until the wallet is useable by u a few times someone else must sync before the extended test team the exchange the pool and then u can download wallet and sync that all adds up and is way beyond our expectations so even we didnt run into any troubles it still need much more time i guess groestlcoin must have a hashrate spike if all diamond friends abuse em as training field for their mining rigs.....
In the meantime, I would recommend that everyone get their rigs setup and mining Groestl so as to not “miss out” on anything, keep their DMD wallets open to keep the network active, actively engage in the troubleshooting process as knowledge and capability allows, and rest assured that this Dev team will get the job done. No doubt about it.
And to the Devs I would just say, chill baby. We're on the same team, all working together, and we know you'll get it done, but maybe it might be time to take an afternoon walk in the park, spend time with family and friends, and get a good night's sleep - personally, I know that some of my best work has happened away from the keyboard. Time to take a much deserved rest. It's Sunday afternoon already! One short note about me: I have two small businesses that keep me as busy as two full time jobs. It just so happened that this release happened on a weekend, and a weekend basically dedicated to R&R where I had some 'extra' time to dedicate to this. Thursday was also a holiday, so Friday was half gas for me as well. I usually don't have this kind of time to dedicate to this type of activity, but, as I've said, as luck would have it, in this case I did, and that being coupled with this launch being of exceptional interest to me . . . well, I'm sure you get the idea, and that you won't be expecting to see much of me throughout the coming week. My nick over at Diamond is DMDer, and if you plan on getting active in this community, you'll probably end up seeing more of me over there than here, so get on over there and reserve your nick while it's still time!!!
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This highly suggests that we're dealing with a sync issue with the new blockchain. As long as there was old blockchain data to sync, the client was able to start up. After block 386228, that changes.
There are no sync issues, please redownload the chain or use the one supplied in the First Post. Please use the latest wallet-qt client 2.0.1. There's nothing special at 386228 block. Or what comes after it? Or how things are handled after it? It certainly marked a "before and after" in my testing. Don't take the test results personal. Bugs happen. As you might imagine, I'm anxiously looking forward to the version's "What's Fixed". |
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"Fair" would be to roll back everything to block 386228, wouldn't you say? That would be best for the community at large by rewarding everyone who was troubleshooting for the good of all, wouldn't it?
everyone had his chance to mine noone got any advantage after like 30 mined blocks the wallet was posted for everyone to be used a few minutes later diff did raise and show people where joining the mining if someone cant set up solomine if someone have no access to a windows pc if someones wallet crashed more that the other ones is that unfair? what did others gain what he lost? if u didnt mine diamonds last few weeks and months when diamond difficulty was low as hell should we rollback because u lost something? if u didnt mine last day where difficulty was very high after a short time already should we rollback? what u expect from a rollback? easy diamonds from beeing one of the first miner? diamond is not that kind of coin after restart network it needed like 3 blocks until diff was adjusted to be at 1 dmd per minute there was no unfair fast mining the mining rewards will stay for sure at least 1 1/2 years at the same 1 dmd each block until 1500000 total coins reached that i call fair network stay running in current blockchain i post a crashfixed wallet in a few minutes ui glitch (white mouseovers) isnt fixed will follow in later wallet for now stability wallet release is more important that wait a lot more hours as announced by pit_DMD linux wallet and source and some support to compile own linux wallets will follow I'm surprised by that response. First, because my suggestion was so far fetched to begin with such that a smiley face would have been enough to put it down (and any implementation would have been truly revolutionary from the community ethic standpoint). Second, because no-one would have even thought to include anything outside of this specific launch period in their counter-argument (what does anything about whether someone mined or not prior to block 386228 have to do with it? what does anything about the future have to do with it? we're talking about a specific period of time where only the selfish have benefited). Third, because, at the end of the day, it is a response that ultimately defends (albeit poorly argued with irrelevant arguments) the position of the selfish miner who did not think of the community, and it ignores those who put the community first (think about it, who would benefit from your logic if such a revolutionary idea were indeed to be seriously contemplated? the selfish miner or the community contributor? - again, during this period of time from block 386228 to now, or whenever we do get the DMD network up and running) None of that is to say that those are/were your intentions, but a very serious inference can be taken from your words. As I said, I'm very surprised by that reply. It's very out of character for you. And it's just not true that everyone had his chance to mine and that none got any advantage. To say that suggests a complete disconnect with the reality behind the current issue and situation. |
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Another test complete:
Delete everything and start again, run diamond qt. then install wallet.dat in roaming folder, install block chain and db downloads, run and sync diamond qt.
Runs forever without problems (3 hours in my test) as long as you don't close the program.
As soon as you close the client/wallet and restart, you get the crash error.
Going to do a manual online sync now.
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With regard to pools, wouldn't one of the existing GRS pools like cryptohunger be able to knock one up in 5 minutes? Same algo, just different coin name or am I missing something? With regard to my experiences with the new wallet, downloads and first sync were fine but as soon as I changed anything (wallet.dat, diamond.conf) it crashed with the errors already mentioned. If anyone is having problems try these steps: 0. Delete everything and start again (except pre groestl wallet.dat - put that somewhere safe) 1. run diamond qt. 2. Close diamond qt 3. Install wallet.dat and diamond.conf in roaming folder 4. Only then install block chain and db downloads. 5. run and sync diamond qt 6. Solo mine  this is only helping shorttime database seems to get corrupted after longer use Exactly what my testing and limited knowledge was leading me to think. we will release soon a updatet wallet that use old style database a bit slower at startup but stable Stable is better than fast. I don't mind waiting a bit longer on startup as long as it performs once started. I'll take known-good over beta any day! we are sorry for the additional work u all have to go through until u run a stable wallet again No prob. It's Murphy's Law, and shit happens. i can gurantee we will not stop working until last bug fixed Like the fantastic team you are!! and then go beyond and implement new features in comming weeks and months
Price is holding solid too and looks ready to rocket. 0.0023 is the next stop. |
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its by far not to late to join in
you are welcome to be a travelmate in our journey
Thanks! I think I'll take you up on that invitation. I'm already fully committed on the mining and coin holding fronts, but I could also do more by getting involved on the development side of things too. While I'm not a programmer, I do have other professional aptitudes that may well be suitable for other, non-coding, aspects of Diamond's general project development. That being said, I'm sure it goes without saying that I am in complete sync with your philosophy, stated goals, and implementation plans for DMD. My own reflections on a coin's "perfect characteristics" - what coin I would mine and what coin I would invest in - have led me to very similar, if not identical, conclusions. Seeing others coming to the same conclusions and acting on those conclusions is probably the primary reason why I'm so excited about DMD's future and willing to roll up my sleeves alongside you all and contribute whatever I can as well. Thanks again, and I'll be getting in contact with you via PM over on the DMD forum as soon as I can. |
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