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2101  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why This Investment Will SOAR Very Soon on: September 07, 2014, 01:10:27 AM
The point is, how will Bitcoin fare in the collapse? Or don't you think that there is any collapse coming?
I think Bitcoin is going to rob gold of approximately 80-90% of it's value within 5 years. I think Bitcoin will act as the safety net for every nation state fiat-scrip implosion over the course of the next 50 years, or until fiat scrip no longer exists, whichever comes first.

I also don't think anyone can accurately predict when any given nation's fiat scrip will implode. But we know they all eventually will. No empire lasts forever.
2102  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is the Future of Bitcoin ? on: September 07, 2014, 01:01:14 AM
Unfortunately the greed that controls the legacy banking system with their printed legal tender cronies will have a whole lot to say about this
They will indeed have a great deal to say. But for the first time in history they can't say it while pointing a gun at the competition.

And with each passing day the world will listen to them less and less. With each new financial crisis the world will get sicker and sicker of hearing their lies.

With each new violent act the world will tire more and more of supporting their blood money. The banksters' days are numbered friends, believe me.

This is the end for them. A total paradigm shift. This is the beginning for the rest of us. Take heart, brothers and sisters.



We are the future, and they are the past.
2103  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why This Investment Will SOAR Very Soon on: September 07, 2014, 12:54:03 AM
When you watch this Youtube video, scan the videos in the list at the side panel. You will find any number of videos that suggest a big COLLAPSE in fiat coming very soon. I haven't checked all the videos; there are way too many. But the question is: WILL BITCOIN SOAR AS THE FIATS COME DOWN?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvIWYLvJPuI
Jump to the 3 minute mark for the pitch (a "special report" on gold they're trying to sell you).

Or better yet, don't waste you're time watching this garbage. It's an advertisement and sales pitch posing as an informational video.

The future isn't going to involve gold any more than it will involve horse and buggy or steam ships.
2104  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: OK I'm curious...What is an unlincensed money transfer anyway? on: September 06, 2014, 04:13:03 AM
And you must register with the federal government.  Oh, and the state licenses cost money. Lots of money in some cases...one needs >$1M to get started.
Laws designed to protect the monopoly of the massively profitable banking cartel. Don't fuck with the banksters, cause they own this country.

Until Bitcoin renders them obsolete, anyway.
2105  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: *UPDATED* September 2014 - Beliathon's recommended articles and vids on: September 05, 2014, 07:56:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JszfLU4ysEM <- Watching now and will tentatively add to list because I like you.

whats with all this referring to yourself in the 3rd person stuff ? You are starting to sound like Donald Trump
It's mostly just for fun, but also to push the World Citizen concept. Also pushing class consciousness (especially for Temporarily Embarrassed Millionaire Americans) and solidarity. As well as the importance of compassion now, at the dawn of humanity's Age of Empathy.

“Nationalism is our form of incest, is our idolatry, is our insanity. 'Patriotism' is its cult... Just as love for one individual which excludes the love for others is not love, love for one's country which is not part of one's love for humanity is not love, but idolatrous worship.”
-Erich Fromm, The Sane Society



P.S.
The Empathic Civilization RSA Animate
2106  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: July 2014 - Beliathon's recommended reads on: September 05, 2014, 07:19:46 PM
Thanks for the tip, I removed that link

Updated the OP, added:

Blog article - Bitcoin: Economy of the Eternal Now

article - Why You Should Care About Bitcoin: Money is going digital and it is impacting the biggest growth industry of the past 75 years Medium.com from Sept. 2013

article & links - Accelerated Learning for Bitcoin: How I got up to speed on bitcoin in about a month. Medium.com from Nov. 2013

video - Jeff Garzik TED talk - Bitcoin the Organism

video - Andreas Antonopoulos on Bitcoin | Maker Faire 2014

video - Bitcoin 101: Why Bitcoin's growth is normal

video - The Evolving Digital Commerce Ecosystem

video - Bitcoin can fulfill the role of cash in a digital society

video - Bruce Fenton: Bitcoin and the New York "BitLicense" proposed regulations



Bless all forms of resistance,

Yours in compassion and solidarity,

World Citizen Beliathon
2107  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It's about time to turn off PoW mining on: September 05, 2014, 07:16:26 PM
The Bitcoin community is being bled dry.

And laughing all the way to the bank!
Correction... we ARE our own banks.

I don't feel like I am being bled dry. But then again, I went all in before China.
2108  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Core Developer says Bitcoin Too Fragile and in its Infancy on: September 05, 2014, 05:13:14 PM
What exactly are the requirements to be labeled as a "Bitcoin Core Developer"? They seem pretty minimal to me. Either that or people are just trying to lend extra credence to Hearn's words.

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/graphs/contributors

Perhaps "contributor" would be more honest.
Too true. For those who can't find him on the list, it's because he's way down at #81. Do an edit -> find "hearn"

For bitcoin to be able to go any further I do agree that it does need more demand and that is going to take a while.
Recommended watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHUPPYzzZrI

Look at the remittances market, that alone is worth over 500 billion a year. And mark my words, Bitcoin will eat every penny. You know why? Because Western Union and the others are parasites who steal 20-30% of the money they process. 20-30%! It's outrageously greedy price-gouging highway robbery.
How long until people realize they are needlessly throwing their hard-earned money - and these are POOR people we're talking about here - down the toilet? They will ALL switch to bitcoin, just like EVERYONE stopped using Blockbuster video to pay $5 for one movie rental once Netflix came online.
This will happen sooner rather than later, because people prefer to have money rather than throw it away.
--> http://www.coindesk.com/philippines-startups-fulfil-bitcoins-remittance-promise/

Iran exports around 200 thousand barrels of oil to China every day. That's $20 million worth of oil being exported every day. The Iranian and Chinese are not idiots. So there is or will emerge at some point a HUGE MARKET DEMAND for being able to transact $20 million of value in cyberspace every day.
The daily volume currently traded in Bitcoin is MINISCULE relative to the potential volume. A tiny fraction of a fraction of it's potential use-cases. Ask yourself how much the bitcoin price would have to rise to make the daily volume $20 billion, for example.

Now look at cash transfers in Africa, look at MPESA, http://www.economist.com/blogs/baobab/2014/06/cash-transfers-africa
Look at the situation in Argentina. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e__m-w4N7NI

Point is, there's a cornucopia of industries, services, dire situations, and absolutely awful inflated, worthless fiat-scrip currencies just BEGGING to be swallowed up by Bitcoin.

The only question for each of them, is when. Not if, when.
2109  Economy / Speculation / Re: bullish dream on: September 05, 2014, 05:09:45 PM
You may have mistaken a . for a ,?  Wink
USA = ,
EU = .
2110  Economy / Speculation / Re: Next boom within 3-4 months tops on: September 05, 2014, 04:50:41 PM
As longs as there BTC exchange where you can easily trade BTC for USD or viceversa, it doesn't matter in what currency manufacturers sell their hardware.
Correct.

Recommended reading: http://falkvinge.net/2013/03/06/the-target-value-for-bitcoin-is-not-some-50-or-100-it-is-100000-to-1000000/
Recommended watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHUPPYzzZrI

Look at the remittances market, that alone is worth over 500 billion a year. And mark my words, Bitcoin will eat every penny. You know why? Because Western Union and the others are parasites who steal 20-30% of the money they process. 20-30%!! How long until people realize they are needlessly throwing their hard-earned money - and these are POOR people we're talking about here - down the toilet? They will ALL switch to bitcoin, just like EVERYONE stopped using Blockbuster video to pay $5 for one movie rental once Netflix came online. This will happen, because people prefer to have money rather than throw it away.
--> http://www.coindesk.com/philippines-startups-fulfil-bitcoins-remittance-promise/

Iran exports around 200 thousand barrels of oil to China every day. That's $20 million worth of oil being exported every day. The Iranian and Chinese are not idiots. So there is or will emerge at some point a HUGE MARKET DEMAND for being able to transact $20 million of value in cyberspace every day. The volume today traded in Bitcoin is EXTREMELY LOW relative to the potential volume. A tiny fraction of a fraction of it's potential use-cases. Ask yourself how much the bitcoin price would have to rise to make the daily volume $20 billion, for example.

Now look at cash transfers in Africa, look at MPESA, http://www.economist.com/blogs/baobab/2014/06/cash-transfers-africa
Look at the situation in Argentina. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e__m-w4N7NI

Point is, there's a cornucopia of industries, services, dire situations, and TERRIBLE inflating worthless fiat-scrip currencies just BEGGING to be swallowed up by Bitcoin.

The only question for each of them, is when. Not if, when. As far as I'm concerned $100,000 per bitcoin is a conservative estimate. We will see it before 2020.
2111  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who's brave/stupid enough to invest their life savings into Bitcoin? on: September 05, 2014, 01:29:28 PM
It is always a good idea to have a few different investments...
This statement ceased to be true the moment Bitcoin first came online. Now there is only one investment that will outperform every other in history.
2112  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Predictions : Mining of new bitcoins stops tommorow on: September 05, 2014, 01:20:34 PM
What would happen if no new bitcoins are created ?
Would the ecosystem sustain itself or would we see miners leave for greener/newer pastures.
My prediction is that since bitcoin creation is slowed incrementally the last of the bitcoins wouldn't matter so much since the market would not be accustomed to constant infusion of money.
Yes the other currencies are one queue.The future is uncertain there are many other cryptos using the same algorithm as bitcoin
You need to read this: http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrencies/

There can only be one, and Bitcoin is it.

P.S.
http://trilema.com/2013/things-that-matter-these-days-things-that-dont-matter-these-days is a related and also very excellent read
2113  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Average Joe thinks about Bitcoin on: September 05, 2014, 12:26:04 PM
This clearly indicated that people's knowledge about today's fiat money system is almost zero. But some of them will start to realize the slavery nature of it
Only 2.3 million people have seen this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0
Even if you assume 100% of them are Americans, that's less than 1% of the population

1.6 million people have seen this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGk5ioEXlIM

Fortunately, this one at least has been seen by 15 million and counting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

Young people today spend more time learning online by pictures and videos than any generation previously.
2114  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good Luck Charlie! on: September 05, 2014, 12:14:33 PM
only 24 years old! impressive!
I hate when people are both younger than me and also more successful... but I can't hate anyone involved in working with Bitcoin, a technology that will without any doubt make this world a better and more peaceful place for humans to coexist.
2115  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which Wallet should be suggested to a newbie? on: September 05, 2014, 11:43:04 AM
I'm fond of Hive Wallet, but bitcoin-qt is just fine for most. Coinbase is another option if you're from the USA.

I hear a lot of good things about Electrum and Armory but have never used either myself.
2116  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is someone on a mini-donation spree? on: September 05, 2014, 11:41:26 AM
They're not donating, they're fishing.

Fishing? like hoping a whale sends back a big sum or something?
Shit, does this actually work? Cause I could use some free money.
2117  Economy / Speculation / Re: Next boom within 3-4 months tops on: September 05, 2014, 11:31:54 AM
Define boom.
$2000+ at least, probably $3000+ at peak



Don't stop there, prolong the graph until 2025 or so!


One of these graphs has 1,200 data points. The other graph has 1 data point. Which do you think is more useful?
2118  Economy / Speculation / Re: You heard it hear 1st on: September 05, 2014, 10:25:33 AM
It seems like only select intelligent people truly believe in bitcoin, and intelligent people are few and far between in this world.  
Exceptionally intelligent folks are also better at pattern recognition than the rest of the population, which is why they tend to spot trends early, long before the rest of the herd catches on.
2119  Economy / Speculation / Re: Next boom within 3-4 months tops on: September 05, 2014, 10:18:41 AM
I study paterns as well, looks bullish to me!

https://blockchain.info/charts/difficulty
https://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate

Quite insane how difficulty and hash-rate grew in not even one year's time!
Indeed. The beautiful thing, is what you begin to see when you extrapolate those curves outward a bit..



Difficulty, hash-rate, and adoption all look like this.

Price follows sooner or later, it's a mathematical inevitability. Demand is going nowhere but up, while supply becomes more and more scarce (hashing difficulty).

This ain't rocket surgery folks.
2120  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Do People Believe Bitcoin Will Replace Fiat? on: September 05, 2014, 10:08:47 AM
Only stupid believe bitcoin will replace Fiat  Cheesy
I believe bitcoin will replace fiat, and statistically speaking there's an approximately 93% chance I'm more intelligent than you.



Take from that what you will.
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