Are you sure this is the bitmixer operator? I have read rumors that this was the btce owner. He's probably just spreading FUD. It is much more likely to be the btc e guy but I've not seen anything concrete so I would disregard it as mere speculation based on rumour right now. It seems that it is pretty much confirmed that was the btc-e operator, and I have read no reliable reports about that being related to bitmixer. Interestingly enough, the indictment was filed under seal on June 21, and bitmixer was announced to be shutting down two days later. It makes me wonder if either bitmixer was either somehow involved (meaning they were being run by the US Government), or if they had advance knowledge about the indictment (meaning they received requests for information from the US government, and were potentially provided information about their service they did not like). Thinking about it a little bit, I think it is more likely to be the latter. Blockchain analytics companies have the ability to trace (larger) amounts of bitcoin that flow through most mixers, and it is possible that, as part of a request for information from law enforcement, they were provided with certain stats about their service regarding how much flows through their service from things like DNMs and ransomeware. A little bit less likely, but it is also possible that bitmixer was in fact part of this. The indictment has a couple of paragraphs redacted, one of which is regarding a related company to the Alex guy. I suspect that some of btc-e servers were seized by law enforcement, causing them to go offline, and it is possible that some of bitmixer's servers were also seized. <playin' devil's advocate; not critical of service but seek answers> https://bitmixer.io/faqs.htmlWhat is a Bitmixer code?
After your first exchange you will receive a special Bitmixer code. This code makes sure that you will never receive any of the previous coins you have added to our reserves in any subsequent transactions you make with Bitmixer. In other words this ensures that you remain untraceable. Day 1: I mixed U$100 worth of bitcoins and received a Bitmixer code so that when I mix subsequent coins I won't received what I previously mixed back. Fine! 48 Hours Later: I mixed another U$100 worth of bitcoins and received bitcoins back which none were of what I've mixed two days prior. Fine! 36 Hours Later: I mixed another U$100 worth of bitcoins and received bitcoins back which none were of what I've mixed two transactions prior. Fine! Question: How were the last two transactions achieved given the following? ... http://themerkle.com/news/interview-with-the-owner-of-bitmixer-io-a-high-volume-bitcoin-mixer/Our servers are located in a country where US authorities can’t get access to the server without a local court order. Bitcoin is not considered as money here, so we can’t be a money-laundering service. We use encrypted disks. We delete all order data after 24 hours. We completely erase old bitcoin addresses from our wallet after coins are sent out. Even if the server is seized, they will find nothing. Clearly, my Bitmixer code remains on file attached to bitcoin wallet addresses I've previously used, else there would be a strong possibility of me receiving some of the coins back that I may not want attached to me, but that would be an impossibility given that ALL order data is purged from your system within 24 hours, as stated above, resulting in the 3-LAs et al. finding nothing. Further, I'll be paying you a fee to mix coins stemming from a nefarious act with the strong possibility that I'll be receiving coins stemming from a nefarious act tens of times worst than what I'm tryin' to hide. Surely, wouldn't that bring the feds to my door a knockin' a helluva lot quicker? It'll be pretty embarrassing for me to defend myself if accused of running a underage goat brothel when in fact I ONLY pimp out adult chickens and occasionally a matured goose (soon to pimp ducks - drakes and hens). Humor aside, I look forward to your reply, devs. Bruno Nah, no updates, Quick. I guess we'll just sit back and see what transpire in the coming days.  Translated: HAHAHA |
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Собаки лают, караван идет. Зибер многообещающий проект с серьезными разраотчиками, продукт отменный, перспективы хорошие. Через час буду заходить в айсио!
Hey, bud, were you still jacking off an hour later? Were you still jacking off when Ziber closed up shop? |
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2008297.msg20425804#msg20425804 "Yes, Bob, I'm live at an undisclosed location where Ziber's former Newbie and bought account users are meating up. I spoke with one user at the bottom of the pile who called me via Ziber. I felt his pain when he quoted an iconic scene in An Officer and a Gentleman - He has nowhere else to go! Back to you, Bob, and tell Alice I said hi."
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Gleb Gamow, and WHAT are you?.. Why are u printing this SHIT?.. Because someone paid u?..Just ICO will show EVERYTHING.You are just a big mouth, but u should shut it up, and quickly. Guys are working HARD on the Project. People will find out themselves to join or not .
Dude, nobody pays me. What part of I earn a living by extorting viable entities for 35 BTC don't you understand? Please, get your facts correct before you comment. If not up to speed about my scammy ass, please read the posts by Ziber's new friend, Leroy Fodor. To be fair, I love your advice that people will find out themselves to join or not, albeit based on rolling dice or flipping a coin since you're alluding to them not reading comments on this thread - pro or con. Speaking of cons, I bet you can't name one entity that's still in this space after they opted to quote Leroy "Honestly" Fodor, can you? @Ziber - The community is still waiting for you to provide the simple proof that I am/was a convicted rapist since you declared such no less than three times on this forum. Again, simply provide the readily available docs most likely from a court in Nashville, TN, and you'll be golden as shit, coupled with theymos will permanently ban my scammy ass from this USELESS forum. Bruno Kucinskas |
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Greetings everyone!
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I just wanted to tell: think for yourself, don't make a decision under anyone's manipulations. Check everything up by yourself!
Gleb has a record of busting scam ICO's in the past and he continues to do so.He has successfully predicted the unfair businesses and warned the community about the same before the project turned to a scam.With those trust ratings and personal attacks on Gleb,seems like you have known them in the past and most possibly for them busting one of your scam ICO's. I'll take his word for it,you are a scam. We are being attacked here, but I'm sure that we have created a great product and soon it will become as famous as Skype. Just let us some time!
Famous as skype ? Is that suppose to be your promotional slogan ? Next time get people who can at least present their company as professionally as the can,helps the company to stand away from the obvious scams. Over a decade ago after Chantha Owen Lueung got permanently banned from trading securities in the US due to fraud, he started an entity billed as one that will takeover Facebook. That entity is on its third iteration now known as Crypto-city with Owen having Leroy Fodor and Michael Zinck as business partners, Leroy being the dude who Ziber quotes in bringing cred to his brand. Talk about doing due diligence, Ziber didn't perform any when opting to go that route, resulting in further lack of trust in spite of still-trying-to-decode their sage's words "Trust means being able to predict what other people will do and what situations will occur."https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=338432 |
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More proof that my scammy ass is not to be trusted: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2048619.0
This thread will be locked once Ziber provides extremely simple proof for one of their for-real claims depicting them as 100% legit is put forth as outline below. The following is the original post found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2008297.msg20412345#msg20412345
Greetings everyone! Here are many detective stories' fans and soap opera lovers. I want to tell you one detective soap opera story too... From the very beginning our project Ziber refused from using Bounty as a way to draw more attention to the project. We decided that it will be better to create a really working product in advance and let all the rest speak for us. We have visited 2 conferences in London - CryptoFinancing 2017 and Fintechweek on July 13. At these events we were greeted with a warm welcome and understanding. At the same time we started to send emails to various news websites and projects doing ICO listings, in order to tell people about us. Also we tried to contact tokenmarket.net many times, but we didn't get any response at all. (Please pay attention to this point) Everything was going well until a massive harassment campaign began, targeting us. It started from this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2008297.msg20304037#msg20304037 "Hi Just to clarify: the cofounder and CEO of TokenMarket is Ransu Salovaara Thank you" And simultaneously with it there was made a screenshot of this message and an unknown person published it in the Telegram chat icocountdown, with the comment "Ziber Scam". After that just a little time has passed before several people started to attack us on the forum by writing negative reviews, they willing to tear me to pieces for a single inaccurate word. I gave them a link to our presentation - they say it is fake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDIhEiqCqyQ I gave them a link to our programmers (known since 2014) - they say it is also fake. https://www.microsip.org/ I gave them a link to our github profile where we have published the source code recently (note that the code was under development in private since 2016!) - and they were not even able to compile the fully working code! And they say again that it is fake! https://github.com/ZiberLTDSo, what is the "cause" of claims? Our website introduces several Ziber Team members: Michael Cordy, as a Co-Founder and CEO Tokenmarket Mark Braun, as a Founder and CEO Michael Kaufman, as a Co-Founder and CTO Jason White, as a Co-Founder Operations and Business. Michael Cordy has came up with the "CEO Tokenmarket" title by himself, it was meant as a "CEO of Token marketing" and has nothing to do with the tokenmarket.net. However it became a reason for accusing us of fraud, stating that we have intentionally used the "Tokenmarket.net" name. (Kinda dodgy enterprise I'd say, will tell why below) If Tokenmarket.net did not like this ambiguous title they could just send us the email and we would fix this misunderstanding immediately. Instead of it they started a targeted harassment campaign with the help of professional trolls, haters, hacked and newly registered accounts. However I could not claim that all the haters that were against us are fake - it is very likely that normal users could succumb to the influence of such a manipulator as Tokenmarket.net. Let's dig deeper - why would Tokenmarket.net attack us? What is the root cause? And the reason is: https://www.dentcoin.com – the idea is similar to Ziber, but they sell p2p traffic instead of voice calls. The start of their fundraising program accidentally coincided with the Ziber project launch. And they gathered only 21k ETH from the planned 180k. Many people seem to decide to wait and invest their money into a really working product with the real people behind it! So I think that we have ruined their ICO. Because we have presented more versatile product which is already implemented and can be used right away, while they will have to spend time to implement their product. This caused the hatred and the desire of revenge. To drive us out from the market and destroy us. And they chose very dirty ways to do it. What is the Tokenmarket.net? LATO: Liquidity Asset Token https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2012623.msg20051508#msg20051508Exchange Union Coin: Bridging Digital Currency Exchanges Globally https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2028383.msg20204617#msg20204617 Topic: ANN [RCC] Reality Clash - First ARG Mobile Game with ERC-20 Armory https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2036661.20 And lots of others. Most of these projects don't have a working product! And their teams have never appeared anywhere in the public! It is most likely that Tokenmarket.net creates all these projects itself, as even the CMS of many projects' websites is the same. The only goal of these projects is to raise as much funds as possible! Undoubtedly they take well-known projects and mask own nefarious purposes under them. That's why they got so mad at us. Because we, the young team previously unknown to anyone here, suddenly appeared and ruined their ICO of Dentcoin. And we ruined it not by a heinous lies and intrigues but by presenting the quality product! Who these trolls/manipulators are? The major representative of the haters crowd is misterbones. Let's take a closer look at his messages: --- rise https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1445947.msg18330471#msg18330471Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation: 0,004647 $ Price now: 0,077573 $ ----- Humaniq https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1711764.msg18552426#msg18552426Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,071905 $ Price now:0,163951 $ ------------- Cryptoforecast https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1791709.msg18596414#msg18596414Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,020473 $ Price now:0,17814$ ------------- His predictions come exactly the opposite - projects described as scam by misterbones in fact raise tenfold. ====
Gleb Gamov
1. Gleb stole the identity of a deceased person, Bruno, and posts everywhere the photo with a paper. Later the information appears that he was arrested for driving without a
license, also he has confirmed that he was convicted of rape of 14 years old girl.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg10987160#msg10987160
2. Gleb has third account. This Gamov has scammed someone, and later got scammed himself as far as I understand.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg11266264#msg11266264
3. a few more of his cases + his message about the racketeering by Bruno.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12639625#msg12639625
4. again about the racketeering, and advices on how to counter this Gamov, i.e. act like he does, collect any information possible, make screenshots, etc.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12647767#msg12647767
5. Leroy accused of scamming here. Someone paid to him and Gamov wrote that he is a scammer. Before that there were no single negative comment about Leroy - the claims were completely made up.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12698616#msg12698616
6. about another Bruno's account. This man wrote that he is a paid troll, fouls up any project.
https://bitcoinscamphinnaeusgage.blogspot.de/2014/08/phinnaeus-gage-story-of-internet-troll.html========================= I just wanted to tell: think for yourself, don't make a decision under anyone's manipulations. Check everything up by yourself! We are being attacked here, but I'm sure that we have created a great product and soon it will become as famous as Skype. Just let us some time! Like totally WOW! I mean FUCKIN WOW! Fuckin wow as in TOTALLY MOTHERFUCKIN WOW!I was reading the above as a person quasi in Camp Ziber, thinking the whole time during the read that finally Team Ziber is getting in front of the shitstorm brought on my a few, I hanging on to, and nodding in agreement of most every word. That was until you had to literally pick me up from the floor upon reaching the highlighted text above - on the floor due to lack of oxygen goin' to my brain caused by laughing my motherfuckin ass off. Seriously, I Leroy Fodor honestly thought that the rift between Ziber and I had healed considering the last exchange I had with them via PM three days ago: The above was a sincere olive branch extended, with since then no further communications between Ziber and I commenced, nor was I here in this thread dissing them unless, that is, me calling out other irregularities is considering dissing their brand. I'm takin' aback that the olive branch has been firmly stuck up my ass. Talk about sealing one's fate, Ziber did just that by quoting Leroy Fodor as their NEW defense in demonstrating that Ziber is 100% to be trusted. Well, I really got news for you, Sunshine! After I post this comment, I'm using its entire content as proof positive that Ziber is not to be trusted, it acting as the OP on a newly created thread in the ... wait for it ... Scam section of this forum. But to fair, I will also post this comment in my recently created "unlocked" thread mirroring Leroy Fodor's locked thread depicting me a scammy ass, whereupon you'll be more than welcome to post accordingly (no memes unless it's I posting such), but please try to present your own facts in depicting me a sammy ass oppose to quoting Leroy Fodor quoting Joshua Zipkin because a wise man once said think for yourself, don't make a decision under anyone's manipulations. Check everything up by yourself!  Dude, my head is still cloudy as oxygen returns to my brain upon reading that your NEW defense that Ziber is not a scam is the sage words of cryptocurrency's number one serial liar, Leroy Fodor. Seriously, dudes? There was nary a speck of evidence you could've gleaned from all the writings found in the known universe to make your brand viable except of those by Leroy Fodor? Dude, you would've came out better ahead if you would've cited John Fitzpatrick or Marshall Long, with it morer betterer if cited both in bringing cred to Ziber. Even though I didn't steal a dead man's identity (my dad's), his dick was longer than mine, but I'm morer capable of sticking it deeper into the asses of those deserving it in this space, with Ziber being my new bitch. HAHAHA Bruno Kucinskas PS: Here's the deal. Simply provide proof that I was/am convicted of raping a 14 year old girl - or raping anybody (girl, boy, goat, etc. of any age) - and theymos has my permission to ban all of my 3,141 user accounts on this forum. This should be a fairly easy task for you, Team Ziber, for you just went on record in declaring such a truism, and there's no fuckin way that a viable entity in this space would espouse such a claim sans sound evidence to back it up, doing their due diligence prior to publishing said claim. If by happenstance - I know, a fuckin stretch - you lied, then please let me know that you're ready to remit to me my standard 35 BTC extortion fee, in this case we'll consider it compensation for damaging my brand if what's requested is not put forth. To be clear, to show that the Ziber brand is a trusted entity, all they have to do is silence me by following up on one of your REAL claims that I was convicted of rape. It's that simple. Seriously, it's that simple! Show the proof that's readily available from the court that convicted me and Ziber is golden. Hey, to make your task that much morer easierer, so that you don't have to scour all the courts in the US or the world, the court you'll be looking for to glean the docs is in Nashville, TN, circa late 90s. BTW, if during your search you happen upon some article where I beat the shit outta some women, that wasn't me. That dude stole my identity back in the day. PSS: Looks like Ziber posted their diatribe in two other places falsely claiming that I'm a rapist. Make my compensation now 105 BTC (35 X 3; negotiable): Greetings everyone!
Here are many detective stories' fans and soap opera lovers. I want to tell you one detective soap opera story too...
From the very beginning our project Ziber refused from using Bounty as a way to draw more attention to the project. We decided that it will be better to create a really working product in advance and let all the rest speak for us. We have visited 2 conferences in London - CryptoFinancing 2017 and Fintechweek on July 13. At these events we were greeted with a warm welcome and understanding.
At the same time we started to send emails to various news websites and projects doing ICO listings, in order to tell people about us. Also we tried to contact tokenmarket.net many times, but we didn't get any response at all. (Please pay attention to this point)
Everything was going well until a massive harassment campaign began, targeting us. It started from this post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2008297.msg20304037#msg20304037
"Hi
Just to clarify: the cofounder and CEO of TokenMarket is Ransu Salovaara
Thank you"
And simultaneously with it there was made a screenshot of this message and an unknown person published it in the Telegram chat icocountdown, with the comment "Ziber Scam". After that just a little time has passed before several people started to attack us on the forum by writing negative reviews, they willing to tear me to pieces for a single inaccurate word.
I gave them a link to our presentation - they say it is fake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDIhEiqCqyQ
I gave them a link to our programmers (known since 2014) - they say it is also fake. https://www.microsip.org/
I gave them a link to our github profile where we have published the source code recently (note that the code was under development in private since 2016!) - and they were not
even able to compile the fully working code! And they say again that it is fake! https://github.com/ZiberLTD
So, what is the "cause" of claims?
Our website introduces several Ziber Team members:
Michael Cordy, as a Co-Founder and CEO Tokenmarket
Mark Braun, as a Founder and CEO
Michael Kaufman, as a Co-Founder and CTO
Jason White, as a Co-Founder Operations and Business.
Michael Cordy has came up with the "CEO Tokenmarket" title by himself, it was meant as a "CEO of Token marketing" and has nothing to do with the tokenmarket.net.
However it became a reason for accusing us of fraud, stating that we have intentionally used the "Tokenmarket.net" name. (Kinda dodgy enterprise I'd say, will tell why below)
If Tokenmarket.net did not like this ambiguous title they could just send us the email and we would fix this misunderstanding immediately. Instead of it they started a targeted harassment campaign with the help of professional trolls, haters, hacked and newly registered accounts.
However I could not claim that all the haters that were against us are fake - it is very likely that normal users could succumb to the influence of such a manipulator as Tokenmarket.net.
Let's dig deeper - why would Tokenmarket.net attack us? What is the root cause?
And the reason is: https://www.dentcoin.com – the idea is similar to Ziber, but they sell p2p traffic instead of voice calls.
The start of their fundraising program accidentally coincided with the Ziber project launch. And they gathered only 21k ETH from the planned 180k. Many people seem to decide to wait and invest their money into a really working product with the real people behind it!
So I think that we have ruined their ICO. Because we have presented more versatile product which is already implemented and can be used right away, while they will have to spend time to implement their product. This caused the hatred and the desire of revenge. To drive us out from the market and destroy us. And they chose very dirty ways to do it.
What is the Tokenmarket.net?
LATO: Liquidity Asset Token https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2012623.msg20051508#msg20051508
Exchange Union Coin: Bridging Digital Currency Exchanges Globally https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2028383.msg20204617#msg20204617
Topic: ANN [RCC] Reality Clash - First ARG Mobile Game with ERC-20 Armory https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2036661.20
And lots of others. Most of these projects don't have a working product! And their teams have never appeared anywhere in the public! It is most likely that Tokenmarket.net
creates all these projects itself, as even the CMS of many projects' websites is the same.
The only goal of these projects is to raise as much funds as possible!
Undoubtedly they take well-known projects and mask own nefarious purposes under them.
That's why they got so mad at us. Because we, the young team previously unknown to anyone here, suddenly appeared and ruined their ICO of Dentcoin. And we ruined it not by a heinous lies and intrigues but by presenting the quality product!
Who these trolls/manipulators are?
The major representative of the haters crowd is misterbones. Let's take a closer look at his messages:
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1445947.msg18330471#msg18330471
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation: 0,004647 $
Price now: 0,077573 $
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Humaniq
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1711764.msg18552426#msg18552426
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,071905 $
Price now:0,163951 $
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Cryptoforecast
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1791709.msg18596414#msg18596414
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,020473 $
Price now:0,17814$
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His predictions come exactly the opposite - projects described as scam by misterbones in fact raise tenfold.
====
Gleb Gamov
1. Gleb stole the identity of a deceased person, Bruno, and posts everywhere the photo with a paper. Later the information appears that he was arrested for driving without a
license, also he has confirmed that he was convicted of rape of 14 years old girl.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg10987160#msg10987160
2. Gleb has third account. This Gamov has scammed someone, and later got scammed himself as far as I understand.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg11266264#msg11266264
3. a few more of his cases + his message about the racketeering by Bruno.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12639625#msg12639625
4. again about the racketeering, and advices on how to counter this Gamov, i.e. act like he does, collect any information possible, make screenshots, etc.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12647767#msg12647767
5. Leroy accused of scamming here. Someone paid to him and Gamov wrote that he is a scammer. Before that there were no single negative comment about Leroy - the claims were
completely made up.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12698616#msg12698616
6. about another Bruno's account. This man wrote that he is a paid troll, fouls up any project.
https://bitcoinscamphinnaeusgage.blogspot.de/2014/08/phinnaeus-gage-story-of-internet-troll.html
=========================
I just wanted to tell: think for yourself, don't make a decision under anyone's manipulations. Check everything up by yourself!
We are being attacked here, but I'm sure that we have created a great product and soon it will become as famous as Skype. Just let us some time! Greetings everyone!
Here are many detective stories' fans and soap opera lovers. I want to tell you one detective soap opera story too...
From the very beginning our project Ziber refused from using Bounty as a way to draw more attention to the project. We decided that it will be better to create a really working product in advance and let all the rest speak for us. We have visited 2 conferences in London - CryptoFinancing 2017 and Fintechweek on July 13. At these events we were greeted with a warm welcome and understanding.
At the same time we started to send emails to various news websites and projects doing ICO listings, in order to tell people about us. Also we tried to contact tokenmarket.net many times, but we didn't get any response at all. (Please pay attention to this point)
Everything was going well until a massive harassment campaign began, targeting us. It started from this post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2008297.msg20304037#msg20304037
"Hi
Just to clarify: the cofounder and CEO of TokenMarket is Ransu Salovaara
Thank you"
And simultaneously with it there was made a screenshot of this message and an unknown person published it in the Telegram chat icocountdown, with the comment "Ziber Scam". After that just a little time has passed before several people started to attack us on the forum by writing negative reviews, they willing to tear me to pieces for a single inaccurate word.
I gave them a link to our presentation - they say it is fake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDIhEiqCqyQ
I gave them a link to our programmers (known since 2014) - they say it is also fake. https://www.microsip.org/
I gave them a link to our github profile where we have published the source code recently (note that the code was under development in private since 2016!) - and they were not
even able to compile the fully working code! And they say again that it is fake! https://github.com/ZiberLTD
So, what is the "cause" of claims?
Our website introduces several Ziber Team members:
Michael Cordy, as a Co-Founder and CEO Tokenmarket
Mark Braun, as a Founder and CEO
Michael Kaufman, as a Co-Founder and CTO
Jason White, as a Co-Founder Operations and Business.
Michael Cordy has came up with the "CEO Tokenmarket" title by himself, it was meant as a "CEO of Token marketing" and has nothing to do with the tokenmarket.net.
However it became a reason for accusing us of fraud, stating that we have intentionally used the "Tokenmarket.net" name. (Kinda dodgy enterprise I'd say, will tell why below)
If Tokenmarket.net did not like this ambiguous title they could just send us the email and we would fix this misunderstanding immediately. Instead of it they started a targeted harassment campaign with the help of professional trolls, haters, hacked and newly registered accounts.
However I could not claim that all the haters that were against us are fake - it is very likely that normal users could succumb to the influence of such a manipulator as Tokenmarket.net.
Let's dig deeper - why would Tokenmarket.net attack us? What is the root cause?
And the reason is: https://www.dentcoin.com – the idea is similar to Ziber, but they sell p2p traffic instead of voice calls.
The start of their fundraising program accidentally coincided with the Ziber project launch. And they gathered only 21k ETH from the planned 180k. Many people seem to decide to wait and invest their money into a really working product with the real people behind it!
So I think that we have ruined their ICO. Because we have presented more versatile product which is already implemented and can be used right away, while they will have to spend time to implement their product. This caused the hatred and the desire of revenge. To drive us out from the market and destroy us. And they chose very dirty ways to do it.
What is the Tokenmarket.net?
LATO: Liquidity Asset Token https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2012623.msg20051508#msg20051508
Exchange Union Coin: Bridging Digital Currency Exchanges Globally https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2028383.msg20204617#msg20204617
Topic: ANN [RCC] Reality Clash - First ARG Mobile Game with ERC-20 Armory https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2036661.20
And lots of others. Most of these projects don't have a working product! And their teams have never appeared anywhere in the public! It is most likely that Tokenmarket.net
creates all these projects itself, as even the CMS of many projects' websites is the same.
The only goal of these projects is to raise as much funds as possible!
Undoubtedly they take well-known projects and mask own nefarious purposes under them.
That's why they got so mad at us. Because we, the young team previously unknown to anyone here, suddenly appeared and ruined their ICO of Dentcoin. And we ruined it not by a heinous lies and intrigues but by presenting the quality product!
Who these trolls/manipulators are?
The major representative of the haters crowd is misterbones. Let's take a closer look at his messages:
---
rise
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1445947.msg18330471#msg18330471
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation: 0,004647 $
Price now: 0,077573 $
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Humaniq
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1711764.msg18552426#msg18552426
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,071905 $
Price now:0,163951 $
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Cryptoforecast
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1791709.msg18596414#msg18596414
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,020473 $
Price now:0,17814$
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His predictions come exactly the opposite - projects described as scam by misterbones in fact raise tenfold.
====
Gleb Gamov
1. Gleb stole the identity of a deceased person, Bruno, and posts everywhere the photo with a paper. Later the information appears that he was arrested for driving without a
license, also he has confirmed that he was convicted of rape of 14 years old girl.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg10987160#msg10987160
2. Gleb has third account. This Gamov has scammed someone, and later got scammed himself as far as I understand.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg11266264#msg11266264
3. a few more of his cases + his message about the racketeering by Bruno.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12639625#msg12639625
4. again about the racketeering, and advices on how to counter this Gamov, i.e. act like he does, collect any information possible, make screenshots, etc.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12647767#msg12647767
5. Leroy accused of scamming here. Someone paid to him and Gamov wrote that he is a scammer. Before that there were no single negative comment about Leroy - the claims were completely made up.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12698616#msg12698616
6. about another Bruno's account. This man wrote that he is a paid troll, fouls up any project.
https://bitcoinscamphinnaeusgage.blogspot.de/2014/08/phinnaeus-gage-story-of-internet-troll.html
=========================
I just wanted to tell: think for yourself, don't make a decision under anyone's manipulations. Check everything up by yourself!
We are being attacked here, but I'm sure that we have created a great product and soon it will become as famous as Skype. Just let us some time! That's odd! For being German, Ziber sure the hell loves posting in Russian. |
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This thread will be locked once Ziber provides extremely simple proof for one of their for-real claims depicting them as 100% legit is put forth as outline below. The following is the original post found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2008297.msg20412345#msg20412345
Greetings everyone! Here are many detective stories' fans and soap opera lovers. I want to tell you one detective soap opera story too... From the very beginning our project Ziber refused from using Bounty as a way to draw more attention to the project. We decided that it will be better to create a really working product in advance and let all the rest speak for us. We have visited 2 conferences in London - CryptoFinancing 2017 and Fintechweek on July 13. At these events we were greeted with a warm welcome and understanding. At the same time we started to send emails to various news websites and projects doing ICO listings, in order to tell people about us. Also we tried to contact tokenmarket.net many times, but we didn't get any response at all. (Please pay attention to this point) Everything was going well until a massive harassment campaign began, targeting us. It started from this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2008297.msg20304037#msg20304037 "Hi Just to clarify: the cofounder and CEO of TokenMarket is Ransu Salovaara Thank you" And simultaneously with it there was made a screenshot of this message and an unknown person published it in the Telegram chat icocountdown, with the comment "Ziber Scam". After that just a little time has passed before several people started to attack us on the forum by writing negative reviews, they willing to tear me to pieces for a single inaccurate word. I gave them a link to our presentation - they say it is fake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDIhEiqCqyQ I gave them a link to our programmers (known since 2014) - they say it is also fake. https://www.microsip.org/ I gave them a link to our github profile where we have published the source code recently (note that the code was under development in private since 2016!) - and they were not even able to compile the fully working code! And they say again that it is fake! https://github.com/ZiberLTDSo, what is the "cause" of claims? Our website introduces several Ziber Team members: Michael Cordy, as a Co-Founder and CEO Tokenmarket Mark Braun, as a Founder and CEO Michael Kaufman, as a Co-Founder and CTO Jason White, as a Co-Founder Operations and Business. Michael Cordy has came up with the "CEO Tokenmarket" title by himself, it was meant as a "CEO of Token marketing" and has nothing to do with the tokenmarket.net. However it became a reason for accusing us of fraud, stating that we have intentionally used the "Tokenmarket.net" name. (Kinda dodgy enterprise I'd say, will tell why below) If Tokenmarket.net did not like this ambiguous title they could just send us the email and we would fix this misunderstanding immediately. Instead of it they started a targeted harassment campaign with the help of professional trolls, haters, hacked and newly registered accounts. However I could not claim that all the haters that were against us are fake - it is very likely that normal users could succumb to the influence of such a manipulator as Tokenmarket.net. Let's dig deeper - why would Tokenmarket.net attack us? What is the root cause? And the reason is: https://www.dentcoin.com – the idea is similar to Ziber, but they sell p2p traffic instead of voice calls. The start of their fundraising program accidentally coincided with the Ziber project launch. And they gathered only 21k ETH from the planned 180k. Many people seem to decide to wait and invest their money into a really working product with the real people behind it! So I think that we have ruined their ICO. Because we have presented more versatile product which is already implemented and can be used right away, while they will have to spend time to implement their product. This caused the hatred and the desire of revenge. To drive us out from the market and destroy us. And they chose very dirty ways to do it. What is the Tokenmarket.net? LATO: Liquidity Asset Token https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2012623.msg20051508#msg20051508Exchange Union Coin: Bridging Digital Currency Exchanges Globally https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2028383.msg20204617#msg20204617 Topic: ANN [RCC] Reality Clash - First ARG Mobile Game with ERC-20 Armory https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2036661.20 And lots of others. Most of these projects don't have a working product! And their teams have never appeared anywhere in the public! It is most likely that Tokenmarket.net creates all these projects itself, as even the CMS of many projects' websites is the same. The only goal of these projects is to raise as much funds as possible! Undoubtedly they take well-known projects and mask own nefarious purposes under them. That's why they got so mad at us. Because we, the young team previously unknown to anyone here, suddenly appeared and ruined their ICO of Dentcoin. And we ruined it not by a heinous lies and intrigues but by presenting the quality product! Who these trolls/manipulators are? The major representative of the haters crowd is misterbones. Let's take a closer look at his messages: --- rise https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1445947.msg18330471#msg18330471Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation: 0,004647 $ Price now: 0,077573 $ ----- Humaniq https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1711764.msg18552426#msg18552426Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,071905 $ Price now:0,163951 $ ------------- Cryptoforecast https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1791709.msg18596414#msg18596414Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,020473 $ Price now:0,17814$ ------------- His predictions come exactly the opposite - projects described as scam by misterbones in fact raise tenfold. ====
Gleb Gamov
1. Gleb stole the identity of a deceased person, Bruno, and posts everywhere the photo with a paper. Later the information appears that he was arrested for driving without a
license, also he has confirmed that he was convicted of rape of 14 years old girl.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg10987160#msg10987160
2. Gleb has third account. This Gamov has scammed someone, and later got scammed himself as far as I understand.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg11266264#msg11266264
3. a few more of his cases + his message about the racketeering by Bruno.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12639625#msg12639625
4. again about the racketeering, and advices on how to counter this Gamov, i.e. act like he does, collect any information possible, make screenshots, etc.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12647767#msg12647767
5. Leroy accused of scamming here. Someone paid to him and Gamov wrote that he is a scammer. Before that there were no single negative comment about Leroy - the claims were completely made up.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12698616#msg12698616
6. about another Bruno's account. This man wrote that he is a paid troll, fouls up any project.
https://bitcoinscamphinnaeusgage.blogspot.de/2014/08/phinnaeus-gage-story-of-internet-troll.html========================= I just wanted to tell: think for yourself, don't make a decision under anyone's manipulations. Check everything up by yourself! We are being attacked here, but I'm sure that we have created a great product and soon it will become as famous as Skype. Just let us some time! Like totally WOW! I mean FUCKIN WOW! Fuckin wow as in TOTALLY MOTHERFUCKIN WOW!I was reading the above as a person quasi in Camp Ziber, thinking the whole time during the read that finally Team Ziber is getting in front of the shitstorm brought on my a few, I hanging on to, and nodding in agreement of most every word. That was until you had to literally pick me up from the floor upon reaching the highlighted text above - on the floor due to lack of oxygen goin' to my brain caused by laughing my motherfuckin ass off. Seriously, I Leroy Fodor honestly thought that the rift between Ziber and I had healed considering the last exchange I had with them via PM three days ago: The above was a sincere olive branch extended, with since then no further communications between Ziber and I commenced, nor was I here in this thread dissing them unless, that is, me calling out other irregularities is considering dissing their brand. I'm takin' aback that the olive branch has been firmly stuck up my ass. Talk about sealing one's fate, Ziber did just that by quoting Leroy Fodor as their NEW defense in demonstrating that Ziber is 100% to be trusted. Well, I really got news for you, Sunshine! After I post this comment, I'm using its entire content as proof positive that Ziber is not to be trusted, it acting as the OP on a newly created thread in the ... wait for it ... Scam section of this forum. But to fair, I will also post this comment in my recently created "unlocked" thread mirroring Leroy Fodor's locked thread depicting me a scammy ass, whereupon you'll be more than welcome to post accordingly (no memes unless it's I posting such), but please try to present your own facts in depicting me a sammy ass oppose to quoting Leroy Fodor quoting Joshua Zipkin because a wise man once said think for yourself, don't make a decision under anyone's manipulations. Check everything up by yourself! Dude, my head is still cloudy as oxygen returns to my brain upon reading that your NEW defense that Ziber is not a scam is the sage words of cryptocurrency's number one serial liar, Leroy Fodor. Seriously, dudes? There was nary a speck of evidence you could've gleaned from all the writings found in the known universe to make your brand viable except of those by Leroy Fodor? Dude, you would've came out better ahead if you would've cited John Fitzpatrick or Marshall Long, with it morer betterer if cited both in bringing cred to Ziber. Even though I didn't steal a dead man's identity (my dad's), his dick was longer than mine, but I'm morer capable of sticking it deeper into the asses of those deserving it in this space, with Ziber being my new bitch. HAHAHA Bruno Kucinskas PS: Here's the deal. Simply provide proof that I was/am convicted of raping a 14 year old girl - or raping anybody (girl, boy, goat, etc. of any age) - and theymos has my permission to ban all of my 3,141 user accounts on this forum. This should be a fairly easy task for you, Team Ziber, for you just went on record in declaring such a truism, and there's no fuckin way that a viable entity in this space would espouse such a claim sans sound evidence to back it up, doing their due diligence prior to publishing said claim. If by happenstance - I know, a fuckin stretch - you lied, then please let me know that you're ready to remit to me my standard 35 BTC extortion fee, in this case we'll consider it compensation for damaging my brand if what's requested is not put forth. To be clear, to show that the Ziber brand is a trusted entity, all they have to do is silence me by following up on one of your REAL claims that I was convicted of rape. It's that simple. Seriously, it's that simple! Show the proof that's readily available from the court that convicted me and Ziber is golden. Hey, to make your task that much morer easierer, so that you don't have to scour all the courts in the US or the world, the court you'll be looking for to glean the docs is in Nashville, TN, circa late 90s. BTW, if during your search you happen upon some article where I beat the shit outta some women, that wasn't me. That dude stole my identity back in the day. PSS: Looks like Ziber posted their diatribe in two other places falsely claiming that I'm a rapist. Make my compensation now 105 BTC (35 X 3; negotiable): Greetings everyone!
Here are many detective stories' fans and soap opera lovers. I want to tell you one detective soap opera story too...
From the very beginning our project Ziber refused from using Bounty as a way to draw more attention to the project. We decided that it will be better to create a really working product in advance and let all the rest speak for us. We have visited 2 conferences in London - CryptoFinancing 2017 and Fintechweek on July 13. At these events we were greeted with a warm welcome and understanding.
At the same time we started to send emails to various news websites and projects doing ICO listings, in order to tell people about us. Also we tried to contact tokenmarket.net many times, but we didn't get any response at all. (Please pay attention to this point)
Everything was going well until a massive harassment campaign began, targeting us. It started from this post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2008297.msg20304037#msg20304037
"Hi
Just to clarify: the cofounder and CEO of TokenMarket is Ransu Salovaara
Thank you"
And simultaneously with it there was made a screenshot of this message and an unknown person published it in the Telegram chat icocountdown, with the comment "Ziber Scam". After that just a little time has passed before several people started to attack us on the forum by writing negative reviews, they willing to tear me to pieces for a single inaccurate word.
I gave them a link to our presentation - they say it is fake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDIhEiqCqyQ
I gave them a link to our programmers (known since 2014) - they say it is also fake. https://www.microsip.org/
I gave them a link to our github profile where we have published the source code recently (note that the code was under development in private since 2016!) - and they were not
even able to compile the fully working code! And they say again that it is fake! https://github.com/ZiberLTD
So, what is the "cause" of claims?
Our website introduces several Ziber Team members:
Michael Cordy, as a Co-Founder and CEO Tokenmarket
Mark Braun, as a Founder and CEO
Michael Kaufman, as a Co-Founder and CTO
Jason White, as a Co-Founder Operations and Business.
Michael Cordy has came up with the "CEO Tokenmarket" title by himself, it was meant as a "CEO of Token marketing" and has nothing to do with the tokenmarket.net.
However it became a reason for accusing us of fraud, stating that we have intentionally used the "Tokenmarket.net" name. (Kinda dodgy enterprise I'd say, will tell why below)
If Tokenmarket.net did not like this ambiguous title they could just send us the email and we would fix this misunderstanding immediately. Instead of it they started a targeted harassment campaign with the help of professional trolls, haters, hacked and newly registered accounts.
However I could not claim that all the haters that were against us are fake - it is very likely that normal users could succumb to the influence of such a manipulator as Tokenmarket.net.
Let's dig deeper - why would Tokenmarket.net attack us? What is the root cause?
And the reason is: https://www.dentcoin.com – the idea is similar to Ziber, but they sell p2p traffic instead of voice calls.
The start of their fundraising program accidentally coincided with the Ziber project launch. And they gathered only 21k ETH from the planned 180k. Many people seem to decide to wait and invest their money into a really working product with the real people behind it!
So I think that we have ruined their ICO. Because we have presented more versatile product which is already implemented and can be used right away, while they will have to spend time to implement their product. This caused the hatred and the desire of revenge. To drive us out from the market and destroy us. And they chose very dirty ways to do it.
What is the Tokenmarket.net?
LATO: Liquidity Asset Token https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2012623.msg20051508#msg20051508
Exchange Union Coin: Bridging Digital Currency Exchanges Globally https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2028383.msg20204617#msg20204617
Topic: ANN [RCC] Reality Clash - First ARG Mobile Game with ERC-20 Armory https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2036661.20
And lots of others. Most of these projects don't have a working product! And their teams have never appeared anywhere in the public! It is most likely that Tokenmarket.net
creates all these projects itself, as even the CMS of many projects' websites is the same.
The only goal of these projects is to raise as much funds as possible!
Undoubtedly they take well-known projects and mask own nefarious purposes under them.
That's why they got so mad at us. Because we, the young team previously unknown to anyone here, suddenly appeared and ruined their ICO of Dentcoin. And we ruined it not by a heinous lies and intrigues but by presenting the quality product!
Who these trolls/manipulators are?
The major representative of the haters crowd is misterbones. Let's take a closer look at his messages:
---
rise
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1445947.msg18330471#msg18330471
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation: 0,004647 $
Price now: 0,077573 $
-----
Humaniq
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1711764.msg18552426#msg18552426
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,071905 $
Price now:0,163951 $
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Cryptoforecast
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1791709.msg18596414#msg18596414
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,020473 $
Price now:0,17814$
-------------
His predictions come exactly the opposite - projects described as scam by misterbones in fact raise tenfold.
====
Gleb Gamov
1. Gleb stole the identity of a deceased person, Bruno, and posts everywhere the photo with a paper. Later the information appears that he was arrested for driving without a
license, also he has confirmed that he was convicted of rape of 14 years old girl.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg10987160#msg10987160
2. Gleb has third account. This Gamov has scammed someone, and later got scammed himself as far as I understand.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg11266264#msg11266264
3. a few more of his cases + his message about the racketeering by Bruno.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12639625#msg12639625
4. again about the racketeering, and advices on how to counter this Gamov, i.e. act like he does, collect any information possible, make screenshots, etc.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12647767#msg12647767
5. Leroy accused of scamming here. Someone paid to him and Gamov wrote that he is a scammer. Before that there were no single negative comment about Leroy - the claims were
completely made up.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12698616#msg12698616
6. about another Bruno's account. This man wrote that he is a paid troll, fouls up any project.
https://bitcoinscamphinnaeusgage.blogspot.de/2014/08/phinnaeus-gage-story-of-internet-troll.html
=========================
I just wanted to tell: think for yourself, don't make a decision under anyone's manipulations. Check everything up by yourself!
We are being attacked here, but I'm sure that we have created a great product and soon it will become as famous as Skype. Just let us some time! Greetings everyone!
Here are many detective stories' fans and soap opera lovers. I want to tell you one detective soap opera story too...
From the very beginning our project Ziber refused from using Bounty as a way to draw more attention to the project. We decided that it will be better to create a really working product in advance and let all the rest speak for us. We have visited 2 conferences in London - CryptoFinancing 2017 and Fintechweek on July 13. At these events we were greeted with a warm welcome and understanding.
At the same time we started to send emails to various news websites and projects doing ICO listings, in order to tell people about us. Also we tried to contact tokenmarket.net many times, but we didn't get any response at all. (Please pay attention to this point)
Everything was going well until a massive harassment campaign began, targeting us. It started from this post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2008297.msg20304037#msg20304037
"Hi
Just to clarify: the cofounder and CEO of TokenMarket is Ransu Salovaara
Thank you"
And simultaneously with it there was made a screenshot of this message and an unknown person published it in the Telegram chat icocountdown, with the comment "Ziber Scam". After that just a little time has passed before several people started to attack us on the forum by writing negative reviews, they willing to tear me to pieces for a single inaccurate word.
I gave them a link to our presentation - they say it is fake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDIhEiqCqyQ
I gave them a link to our programmers (known since 2014) - they say it is also fake. https://www.microsip.org/
I gave them a link to our github profile where we have published the source code recently (note that the code was under development in private since 2016!) - and they were not
even able to compile the fully working code! And they say again that it is fake! https://github.com/ZiberLTD
So, what is the "cause" of claims?
Our website introduces several Ziber Team members:
Michael Cordy, as a Co-Founder and CEO Tokenmarket
Mark Braun, as a Founder and CEO
Michael Kaufman, as a Co-Founder and CTO
Jason White, as a Co-Founder Operations and Business.
Michael Cordy has came up with the "CEO Tokenmarket" title by himself, it was meant as a "CEO of Token marketing" and has nothing to do with the tokenmarket.net.
However it became a reason for accusing us of fraud, stating that we have intentionally used the "Tokenmarket.net" name. (Kinda dodgy enterprise I'd say, will tell why below)
If Tokenmarket.net did not like this ambiguous title they could just send us the email and we would fix this misunderstanding immediately. Instead of it they started a targeted harassment campaign with the help of professional trolls, haters, hacked and newly registered accounts.
However I could not claim that all the haters that were against us are fake - it is very likely that normal users could succumb to the influence of such a manipulator as Tokenmarket.net.
Let's dig deeper - why would Tokenmarket.net attack us? What is the root cause?
And the reason is: https://www.dentcoin.com – the idea is similar to Ziber, but they sell p2p traffic instead of voice calls.
The start of their fundraising program accidentally coincided with the Ziber project launch. And they gathered only 21k ETH from the planned 180k. Many people seem to decide to wait and invest their money into a really working product with the real people behind it!
So I think that we have ruined their ICO. Because we have presented more versatile product which is already implemented and can be used right away, while they will have to spend time to implement their product. This caused the hatred and the desire of revenge. To drive us out from the market and destroy us. And they chose very dirty ways to do it.
What is the Tokenmarket.net?
LATO: Liquidity Asset Token https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2012623.msg20051508#msg20051508
Exchange Union Coin: Bridging Digital Currency Exchanges Globally https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2028383.msg20204617#msg20204617
Topic: ANN [RCC] Reality Clash - First ARG Mobile Game with ERC-20 Armory https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2036661.20
And lots of others. Most of these projects don't have a working product! And their teams have never appeared anywhere in the public! It is most likely that Tokenmarket.net
creates all these projects itself, as even the CMS of many projects' websites is the same.
The only goal of these projects is to raise as much funds as possible!
Undoubtedly they take well-known projects and mask own nefarious purposes under them.
That's why they got so mad at us. Because we, the young team previously unknown to anyone here, suddenly appeared and ruined their ICO of Dentcoin. And we ruined it not by a heinous lies and intrigues but by presenting the quality product!
Who these trolls/manipulators are?
The major representative of the haters crowd is misterbones. Let's take a closer look at his messages:
---
rise
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1445947.msg18330471#msg18330471
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation: 0,004647 $
Price now: 0,077573 $
-----
Humaniq
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1711764.msg18552426#msg18552426
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,071905 $
Price now:0,163951 $
-------------
Cryptoforecast
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1791709.msg18596414#msg18596414
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,020473 $
Price now:0,17814$
-------------
His predictions come exactly the opposite - projects described as scam by misterbones in fact raise tenfold.
====
Gleb Gamov
1. Gleb stole the identity of a deceased person, Bruno, and posts everywhere the photo with a paper. Later the information appears that he was arrested for driving without a
license, also he has confirmed that he was convicted of rape of 14 years old girl.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg10987160#msg10987160
2. Gleb has third account. This Gamov has scammed someone, and later got scammed himself as far as I understand.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg11266264#msg11266264
3. a few more of his cases + his message about the racketeering by Bruno.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12639625#msg12639625
4. again about the racketeering, and advices on how to counter this Gamov, i.e. act like he does, collect any information possible, make screenshots, etc.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12647767#msg12647767
5. Leroy accused of scamming here. Someone paid to him and Gamov wrote that he is a scammer. Before that there were no single negative comment about Leroy - the claims were completely made up.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12698616#msg12698616
6. about another Bruno's account. This man wrote that he is a paid troll, fouls up any project.
https://bitcoinscamphinnaeusgage.blogspot.de/2014/08/phinnaeus-gage-story-of-internet-troll.html
=========================
I just wanted to tell: think for yourself, don't make a decision under anyone's manipulations. Check everything up by yourself!
We are being attacked here, but I'm sure that we have created a great product and soon it will become as famous as Skype. Just let us some time! That's odd! For being German, Ziber sure the hell loves posting in Russian. |
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Greetings everyone! Here are many detective stories' fans and soap opera lovers. I want to tell you one detective soap opera story too... From the very beginning our project Ziber refused from using Bounty as a way to draw more attention to the project. We decided that it will be better to create a really working product in advance and let all the rest speak for us. We have visited 2 conferences in London - CryptoFinancing 2017 and Fintechweek on July 13. At these events we were greeted with a warm welcome and understanding. At the same time we started to send emails to various news websites and projects doing ICO listings, in order to tell people about us. Also we tried to contact tokenmarket.net many times, but we didn't get any response at all. (Please pay attention to this point) Everything was going well until a massive harassment campaign began, targeting us. It started from this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2008297.msg20304037#msg20304037 "Hi Just to clarify: the cofounder and CEO of TokenMarket is Ransu Salovaara Thank you" And simultaneously with it there was made a screenshot of this message and an unknown person published it in the Telegram chat icocountdown, with the comment "Ziber Scam". After that just a little time has passed before several people started to attack us on the forum by writing negative reviews, they willing to tear me to pieces for a single inaccurate word. I gave them a link to our presentation - they say it is fake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDIhEiqCqyQ I gave them a link to our programmers (known since 2014) - they say it is also fake. https://www.microsip.org/ I gave them a link to our github profile where we have published the source code recently (note that the code was under development in private since 2016!) - and they were not even able to compile the fully working code! And they say again that it is fake! https://github.com/ZiberLTDSo, what is the "cause" of claims? Our website introduces several Ziber Team members: Michael Cordy, as a Co-Founder and CEO Tokenmarket Mark Braun, as a Founder and CEO Michael Kaufman, as a Co-Founder and CTO Jason White, as a Co-Founder Operations and Business. Michael Cordy has came up with the "CEO Tokenmarket" title by himself, it was meant as a "CEO of Token marketing" and has nothing to do with the tokenmarket.net. However it became a reason for accusing us of fraud, stating that we have intentionally used the "Tokenmarket.net" name. (Kinda dodgy enterprise I'd say, will tell why below) If Tokenmarket.net did not like this ambiguous title they could just send us the email and we would fix this misunderstanding immediately. Instead of it they started a targeted harassment campaign with the help of professional trolls, haters, hacked and newly registered accounts. However I could not claim that all the haters that were against us are fake - it is very likely that normal users could succumb to the influence of such a manipulator as Tokenmarket.net. Let's dig deeper - why would Tokenmarket.net attack us? What is the root cause? And the reason is: https://www.dentcoin.com – the idea is similar to Ziber, but they sell p2p traffic instead of voice calls. The start of their fundraising program accidentally coincided with the Ziber project launch. And they gathered only 21k ETH from the planned 180k. Many people seem to decide to wait and invest their money into a really working product with the real people behind it! So I think that we have ruined their ICO. Because we have presented more versatile product which is already implemented and can be used right away, while they will have to spend time to implement their product. This caused the hatred and the desire of revenge. To drive us out from the market and destroy us. And they chose very dirty ways to do it. What is the Tokenmarket.net? LATO: Liquidity Asset Token https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2012623.msg20051508#msg20051508Exchange Union Coin: Bridging Digital Currency Exchanges Globally https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2028383.msg20204617#msg20204617 Topic: ANN [RCC] Reality Clash - First ARG Mobile Game with ERC-20 Armory https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2036661.20 And lots of others. Most of these projects don't have a working product! And their teams have never appeared anywhere in the public! It is most likely that Tokenmarket.net creates all these projects itself, as even the CMS of many projects' websites is the same. The only goal of these projects is to raise as much funds as possible! Undoubtedly they take well-known projects and mask own nefarious purposes under them. That's why they got so mad at us. Because we, the young team previously unknown to anyone here, suddenly appeared and ruined their ICO of Dentcoin. And we ruined it not by a heinous lies and intrigues but by presenting the quality product! Who these trolls/manipulators are? The major representative of the haters crowd is misterbones. Let's take a closer look at his messages: --- rise https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1445947.msg18330471#msg18330471Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation: 0,004647 $ Price now: 0,077573 $ ----- Humaniq https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1711764.msg18552426#msg18552426Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,071905 $ Price now:0,163951 $ ------------- Cryptoforecast https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1791709.msg18596414#msg18596414Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,020473 $ Price now:0,17814$ ------------- His predictions come exactly the opposite - projects described as scam by misterbones in fact raise tenfold. ====
Gleb Gamov
1. Gleb stole the identity of a deceased person, Bruno, and posts everywhere the photo with a paper. Later the information appears that he was arrested for driving without a
license, also he has confirmed that he was convicted of rape of 14 years old girl.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg10987160#msg10987160
2. Gleb has third account. This Gamov has scammed someone, and later got scammed himself as far as I understand.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg11266264#msg11266264
3. a few more of his cases + his message about the racketeering by Bruno.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12639625#msg12639625
4. again about the racketeering, and advices on how to counter this Gamov, i.e. act like he does, collect any information possible, make screenshots, etc.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12647767#msg12647767
5. Leroy accused of scamming here. Someone paid to him and Gamov wrote that he is a scammer. Before that there were no single negative comment about Leroy - the claims were completely made up.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12698616#msg12698616
6. about another Bruno's account. This man wrote that he is a paid troll, fouls up any project.
https://bitcoinscamphinnaeusgage.blogspot.de/2014/08/phinnaeus-gage-story-of-internet-troll.html========================= I just wanted to tell: think for yourself, don't make a decision under anyone's manipulations. Check everything up by yourself! We are being attacked here, but I'm sure that we have created a great product and soon it will become as famous as Skype. Just let us some time! Like totally WOW! I mean FUCKIN WOW! Fuckin wow as in TOTALLY MOTHERFUCKIN WOW!I was reading the above as a person quasi in Camp Ziber, thinking the whole time during the read that finally Team Ziber is getting in front of the shitstorm brought on my a few, I hanging on to, and nodding in agreement of most every word. That was until you had to literally pick me up from the floor upon reaching the highlighted text above - on the floor due to lack of oxygen goin' to my brain caused by laughing my motherfuckin ass off. Seriously, I Leroy Fodor honestly thought that the rift between Ziber and I had healed considering the last exchange I had with them via PM three days ago: The above was a sincere olive branch extended, with since then no further communications between Ziber and I commenced, nor was I here in this thread dissing them unless, that is, me calling out other irregularities is considering dissing their brand. I'm takin' aback that the olive branch has been firmly stuck up my ass. Talk about sealing one's fate, Ziber did just that by quoting Leroy Fodor as their NEW defense in demonstrating that Ziber is 100% to be trusted. Well, I really got news for you, Sunshine! After I post this comment, I'm using its entire content as proof positive that Ziber is not to be trusted, it acting as the OP on a newly created thread in the ... wait for it ... Scam section of this forum. But to fair, I will also post this comment in my recently created "unlocked" thread mirroring Leroy Fodor's locked thread depicting me a scammy ass, whereupon you'll be more than welcome to post accordingly (no memes unless it's I posting such), but please try to present your own facts in depicting me a sammy ass oppose to quoting Leroy Fodor quoting Joshua Zipkin because a wise man once said think for yourself, don't make a decision under anyone's manipulations. Check everything up by yourself! Dude, my head is still cloudy as oxygen returns to my brain upon reading that your NEW defense that Ziber is not a scam is the sage words of cryptocurrency's number one serial liar, Leroy Fodor. Seriously, dudes? There was nary a speck of evidence you could've gleaned from all the writings found in the known universe to make your brand viable except of those by Leroy Fodor? Dude, you would've came out better ahead if you would've cited John Fitzpatrick or Marshall Long, with it morer betterer if cited both in bringing cred to Ziber. Even though I didn't steal a dead man's identity (my dad's), his dick was longer than mine, but I'm morer capable of sticking it deeper into the asses of those deserving it in this space, with Ziber being my new bitch. HAHAHA Bruno Kucinskas PS: Here's the deal. Simply provide proof that I was/am convicted of raping a 14 year old girl - or raping anybody (girl, boy, goat, etc. of any age) - and theymos has my permission to ban all of my 3,141 user accounts on this forum. This should be a fairly easy task for you, Team Ziber, for you just went on record in declaring such a truism, and there's no fuckin way that a viable entity in this space would espouse such a claim sans sound evidence to back it up, doing their due diligence prior to publishing said claim. If by happenstance - I know, a fuckin stretch - you lied, then please let me know that you're ready to remit to me my standard 35 BTC extortion fee, in this case we'll consider it compensation for damaging my brand if what's requested is not put forth. To be clear, to show that the Ziber brand is a trusted entity, all they have to do is silence me by following up on one of your REAL claims that I was convicted of rape. It's that simple. Seriously, it's that simple! Show the proof that's readily available from the court that convicted me and Ziber is golden. Hey, to make your task that much morer easierer, so that you don't have to scour all the courts in the US or the world, the court you'll be looking for to glean the docs is in Nashville, TN, circa late 90s. BTW, if during your search you happen upon some article where I beat the shit outta some women, that wasn't me. That dude stole my identity back in the day. PSS: Looks like Ziber posted their diatribe in two other places falsely claiming that I'm a rapist. Make my compensation now 105 BTC (35 X 3; negotiable): Greetings everyone!
Here are many detective stories' fans and soap opera lovers. I want to tell you one detective soap opera story too...
From the very beginning our project Ziber refused from using Bounty as a way to draw more attention to the project. We decided that it will be better to create a really working product in advance and let all the rest speak for us. We have visited 2 conferences in London - CryptoFinancing 2017 and Fintechweek on July 13. At these events we were greeted with a warm welcome and understanding.
At the same time we started to send emails to various news websites and projects doing ICO listings, in order to tell people about us. Also we tried to contact tokenmarket.net many times, but we didn't get any response at all. (Please pay attention to this point)
Everything was going well until a massive harassment campaign began, targeting us. It started from this post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2008297.msg20304037#msg20304037
"Hi
Just to clarify: the cofounder and CEO of TokenMarket is Ransu Salovaara
Thank you"
And simultaneously with it there was made a screenshot of this message and an unknown person published it in the Telegram chat icocountdown, with the comment "Ziber Scam". After that just a little time has passed before several people started to attack us on the forum by writing negative reviews, they willing to tear me to pieces for a single inaccurate word.
I gave them a link to our presentation - they say it is fake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDIhEiqCqyQ
I gave them a link to our programmers (known since 2014) - they say it is also fake. https://www.microsip.org/
I gave them a link to our github profile where we have published the source code recently (note that the code was under development in private since 2016!) - and they were not
even able to compile the fully working code! And they say again that it is fake! https://github.com/ZiberLTD
So, what is the "cause" of claims?
Our website introduces several Ziber Team members:
Michael Cordy, as a Co-Founder and CEO Tokenmarket
Mark Braun, as a Founder and CEO
Michael Kaufman, as a Co-Founder and CTO
Jason White, as a Co-Founder Operations and Business.
Michael Cordy has came up with the "CEO Tokenmarket" title by himself, it was meant as a "CEO of Token marketing" and has nothing to do with the tokenmarket.net.
However it became a reason for accusing us of fraud, stating that we have intentionally used the "Tokenmarket.net" name. (Kinda dodgy enterprise I'd say, will tell why below)
If Tokenmarket.net did not like this ambiguous title they could just send us the email and we would fix this misunderstanding immediately. Instead of it they started a targeted harassment campaign with the help of professional trolls, haters, hacked and newly registered accounts.
However I could not claim that all the haters that were against us are fake - it is very likely that normal users could succumb to the influence of such a manipulator as Tokenmarket.net.
Let's dig deeper - why would Tokenmarket.net attack us? What is the root cause?
And the reason is: https://www.dentcoin.com – the idea is similar to Ziber, but they sell p2p traffic instead of voice calls.
The start of their fundraising program accidentally coincided with the Ziber project launch. And they gathered only 21k ETH from the planned 180k. Many people seem to decide to wait and invest their money into a really working product with the real people behind it!
So I think that we have ruined their ICO. Because we have presented more versatile product which is already implemented and can be used right away, while they will have to spend time to implement their product. This caused the hatred and the desire of revenge. To drive us out from the market and destroy us. And they chose very dirty ways to do it.
What is the Tokenmarket.net?
LATO: Liquidity Asset Token https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2012623.msg20051508#msg20051508
Exchange Union Coin: Bridging Digital Currency Exchanges Globally https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2028383.msg20204617#msg20204617
Topic: ANN [RCC] Reality Clash - First ARG Mobile Game with ERC-20 Armory https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2036661.20
And lots of others. Most of these projects don't have a working product! And their teams have never appeared anywhere in the public! It is most likely that Tokenmarket.net
creates all these projects itself, as even the CMS of many projects' websites is the same.
The only goal of these projects is to raise as much funds as possible!
Undoubtedly they take well-known projects and mask own nefarious purposes under them.
That's why they got so mad at us. Because we, the young team previously unknown to anyone here, suddenly appeared and ruined their ICO of Dentcoin. And we ruined it not by a heinous lies and intrigues but by presenting the quality product!
Who these trolls/manipulators are?
The major representative of the haters crowd is misterbones. Let's take a closer look at his messages:
---
rise
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1445947.msg18330471#msg18330471
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation: 0,004647 $
Price now: 0,077573 $
-----
Humaniq
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1711764.msg18552426#msg18552426
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,071905 $
Price now:0,163951 $
-------------
Cryptoforecast
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1791709.msg18596414#msg18596414
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,020473 $
Price now:0,17814$
-------------
His predictions come exactly the opposite - projects described as scam by misterbones in fact raise tenfold.
====
Gleb Gamov
1. Gleb stole the identity of a deceased person, Bruno, and posts everywhere the photo with a paper. Later the information appears that he was arrested for driving without a
license, also he has confirmed that he was convicted of rape of 14 years old girl.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg10987160#msg10987160
2. Gleb has third account. This Gamov has scammed someone, and later got scammed himself as far as I understand.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg11266264#msg11266264
3. a few more of his cases + his message about the racketeering by Bruno.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12639625#msg12639625
4. again about the racketeering, and advices on how to counter this Gamov, i.e. act like he does, collect any information possible, make screenshots, etc.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12647767#msg12647767
5. Leroy accused of scamming here. Someone paid to him and Gamov wrote that he is a scammer. Before that there were no single negative comment about Leroy - the claims were
completely made up.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12698616#msg12698616
6. about another Bruno's account. This man wrote that he is a paid troll, fouls up any project.
https://bitcoinscamphinnaeusgage.blogspot.de/2014/08/phinnaeus-gage-story-of-internet-troll.html
=========================
I just wanted to tell: think for yourself, don't make a decision under anyone's manipulations. Check everything up by yourself!
We are being attacked here, but I'm sure that we have created a great product and soon it will become as famous as Skype. Just let us some time! Greetings everyone!
Here are many detective stories' fans and soap opera lovers. I want to tell you one detective soap opera story too...
From the very beginning our project Ziber refused from using Bounty as a way to draw more attention to the project. We decided that it will be better to create a really working product in advance and let all the rest speak for us. We have visited 2 conferences in London - CryptoFinancing 2017 and Fintechweek on July 13. At these events we were greeted with a warm welcome and understanding.
At the same time we started to send emails to various news websites and projects doing ICO listings, in order to tell people about us. Also we tried to contact tokenmarket.net many times, but we didn't get any response at all. (Please pay attention to this point)
Everything was going well until a massive harassment campaign began, targeting us. It started from this post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2008297.msg20304037#msg20304037
"Hi
Just to clarify: the cofounder and CEO of TokenMarket is Ransu Salovaara
Thank you"
And simultaneously with it there was made a screenshot of this message and an unknown person published it in the Telegram chat icocountdown, with the comment "Ziber Scam". After that just a little time has passed before several people started to attack us on the forum by writing negative reviews, they willing to tear me to pieces for a single inaccurate word.
I gave them a link to our presentation - they say it is fake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDIhEiqCqyQ
I gave them a link to our programmers (known since 2014) - they say it is also fake. https://www.microsip.org/
I gave them a link to our github profile where we have published the source code recently (note that the code was under development in private since 2016!) - and they were not
even able to compile the fully working code! And they say again that it is fake! https://github.com/ZiberLTD
So, what is the "cause" of claims?
Our website introduces several Ziber Team members:
Michael Cordy, as a Co-Founder and CEO Tokenmarket
Mark Braun, as a Founder and CEO
Michael Kaufman, as a Co-Founder and CTO
Jason White, as a Co-Founder Operations and Business.
Michael Cordy has came up with the "CEO Tokenmarket" title by himself, it was meant as a "CEO of Token marketing" and has nothing to do with the tokenmarket.net.
However it became a reason for accusing us of fraud, stating that we have intentionally used the "Tokenmarket.net" name. (Kinda dodgy enterprise I'd say, will tell why below)
If Tokenmarket.net did not like this ambiguous title they could just send us the email and we would fix this misunderstanding immediately. Instead of it they started a targeted harassment campaign with the help of professional trolls, haters, hacked and newly registered accounts.
However I could not claim that all the haters that were against us are fake - it is very likely that normal users could succumb to the influence of such a manipulator as Tokenmarket.net.
Let's dig deeper - why would Tokenmarket.net attack us? What is the root cause?
And the reason is: https://www.dentcoin.com – the idea is similar to Ziber, but they sell p2p traffic instead of voice calls.
The start of their fundraising program accidentally coincided with the Ziber project launch. And they gathered only 21k ETH from the planned 180k. Many people seem to decide to wait and invest their money into a really working product with the real people behind it!
So I think that we have ruined their ICO. Because we have presented more versatile product which is already implemented and can be used right away, while they will have to spend time to implement their product. This caused the hatred and the desire of revenge. To drive us out from the market and destroy us. And they chose very dirty ways to do it.
What is the Tokenmarket.net?
LATO: Liquidity Asset Token https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2012623.msg20051508#msg20051508
Exchange Union Coin: Bridging Digital Currency Exchanges Globally https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2028383.msg20204617#msg20204617
Topic: ANN [RCC] Reality Clash - First ARG Mobile Game with ERC-20 Armory https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2036661.20
And lots of others. Most of these projects don't have a working product! And their teams have never appeared anywhere in the public! It is most likely that Tokenmarket.net
creates all these projects itself, as even the CMS of many projects' websites is the same.
The only goal of these projects is to raise as much funds as possible!
Undoubtedly they take well-known projects and mask own nefarious purposes under them.
That's why they got so mad at us. Because we, the young team previously unknown to anyone here, suddenly appeared and ruined their ICO of Dentcoin. And we ruined it not by a heinous lies and intrigues but by presenting the quality product!
Who these trolls/manipulators are?
The major representative of the haters crowd is misterbones. Let's take a closer look at his messages:
---
rise
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1445947.msg18330471#msg18330471
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation: 0,004647 $
Price now: 0,077573 $
-----
Humaniq
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1711764.msg18552426#msg18552426
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,071905 $
Price now:0,163951 $
-------------
Cryptoforecast
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1791709.msg18596414#msg18596414
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,020473 $
Price now:0,17814$
-------------
His predictions come exactly the opposite - projects described as scam by misterbones in fact raise tenfold.
====
Gleb Gamov
1. Gleb stole the identity of a deceased person, Bruno, and posts everywhere the photo with a paper. Later the information appears that he was arrested for driving without a
license, also he has confirmed that he was convicted of rape of 14 years old girl.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg10987160#msg10987160
2. Gleb has third account. This Gamov has scammed someone, and later got scammed himself as far as I understand.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg11266264#msg11266264
3. a few more of his cases + his message about the racketeering by Bruno.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12639625#msg12639625
4. again about the racketeering, and advices on how to counter this Gamov, i.e. act like he does, collect any information possible, make screenshots, etc.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12647767#msg12647767
5. Leroy accused of scamming here. Someone paid to him and Gamov wrote that he is a scammer. Before that there were no single negative comment about Leroy - the claims were completely made up.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12698616#msg12698616
6. about another Bruno's account. This man wrote that he is a paid troll, fouls up any project.
https://bitcoinscamphinnaeusgage.blogspot.de/2014/08/phinnaeus-gage-story-of-internet-troll.html
=========================
I just wanted to tell: think for yourself, don't make a decision under anyone's manipulations. Check everything up by yourself!
We are being attacked here, but I'm sure that we have created a great product and soon it will become as famous as Skype. Just let us some time! That's odd! For being German, Ziber sure the hell loves posting in Russian. |
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Are you sure this is the bitmixer operator? I have read rumors that this was the btce owner. YEP! https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/26/16035702/btce-arrest-bitcoin-alexander-vinnik-mt-gox-theft-suspectGreek police have arrested one of the central figures in the Bitcoin exchange BTC-e on suspicion of money laundering. Russian citizen Alexander Vinnik was arrested in Greece at the request of US law enforcement, according to a Reuters report.
The BTC-e exchange has long been a favorite of criminals, as its headquarters in Russia places it outside the reach of US and European law enforcement. Recent Google research found that 95 percent of ransomware cash-outs occurred through the BTC-e exchange, although it’s unclear whether the exchange itself would be liable for those payments.
Those payments have made BTC-e one of the largest bitcoin exchanges, regularly handling more than 3 percent of total Bitcoin transactions. The exchange has been down since Tuesday evening. |
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https://www.facebook.com/mszinck/posts/10152822853716956:0Note the year when Michael penned the above. Suffice to say that he edited the original content. So, 2016 was a brutal year because BTC went up, causing alts to go down, causing StakeMiners' deposits on accounts to decrease in value, eh? So, here it is in 2017 with bitcoin AND alts increased in value. What happened to StakeMiners coffer, you ask? Nearly DEPLETED! Depleted from ~128 BTC due to the rise of virtually all alts, including Leroy Fodor's RateCoin which is a major part of StakeMiners' holdings.
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Just a reminder, that Leroy Fodor married a pinoy mail-order donkey-witch, can't afford to return to the USA, and turned an approximate 128 Bitcoin investment into an approximate 2 BTC result.
Stakeminers is one of the most laughable ventures ever discovered on these forums.
True Captains of Industry !
Did I forget to mention Leroy Fodor is a serial liar as well ?
By all accounts, Leroy "Honestly" Fodor's StakeMiners Ponzi is down to paying out ONLY 6 Investards - https://blockchain.info/address/15RNyRkxBn3g3rcYGCbj7n1sFHhQkg9wPo - 5 of which includes himself, Chantha Owen Lueung, Michael Zinck, Terrick and Wolvman - ALL 6 if you include Leroy's wife, Katrina Fodor, who's on record in being a partner of StakeMiners. I'm pretty sure that Leroy's slut daughter and son, Leroy Jr., lost their scant pesos in the scheme, hence the Fodor Four still unable to garner enough funds to come to Merica before Katrina's visa expires 5 years ago (yes, it was OVER 5 years ago when Leroy first mentioned on the Net that her visa was ready to expire, hence imperative that they get to the States, penned prior to the jealous cock fighters burnt down Leroy's sorry-ass 12' X 12' Sari Sari complete with a west-facing solar array on its hot tin roof surrounded on three sides by towering trees, the fire observed by a cigarette-butt eating Pakled-evader alien sitting in a comfy chair adjacent to the piggery under a mango tree). HAHAHA |
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