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2121  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why PayPal and Bitcoin should partner up. on: March 09, 2015, 11:27:54 PM
i have no idea  Grin What do you think peepz?
Should they or not and why?BTC

I think under some conditions chargeback is a desired feature.
For example in eBay normally that's a good thing when purchasing physical items.
If the seller never sends the merchandise then the payment can be charged back.

So in my opinion it would totally make sense for PayPal to allow funding with BTC and using that funds on eBay.


no paypal shouldnt be judge only the court systems

I'm not saying PayPal should be judge, just an intermediary as it is now for US$ transactions on eBay.
Of course law/judges are in a whole superior level, but you can't get a lawyer and start a trial for every package that doesn't arrive  Roll Eyes
2122  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why PayPal and Bitcoin should partner up. on: March 09, 2015, 11:15:28 PM
Bitcoin needs to replace Paypal, not be some type of "partner".

Probably bitcoin will make go PayPal bankrupt. I really don't think so but it's possible.
But saying BTC needs to replace PayPal is kind of saying US dollar needs to replace PayPal.

Bitcoin is a currency, PayPal is a processor, not really replaceable.
2123  Economy / Economics / Re: A noob question. on: March 09, 2015, 11:06:13 PM
Usually mining reward decrease has no effect on the price.

Currently there are 3600 new coins every day, just in the last 24 hours bitcoin trade volume is above 150,000 coins, 3600 coins if immediately dumped by miners has no effect on price.

Where did you get the BTC150k figure? From here I see the volume is about $2-7 million (~15k or 20k BTC) per day on most days, with exceptions.

Reducing the daily reward from BTC3,600 to BTC1,800 would definitely have an effect.
Of course that's just a factor as I said before.

2124  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] BTC via paypal on: March 09, 2015, 10:49:03 PM
I want to do the transaction, but I have to wait next sunday...If you are still interested next sunday, pm me.

Always operate under the assumption that Paypal payments will be charged back later on down the road.

I did a verification with maidak, I sent hm my ID card and my picture holding it.
Just cost me a lot of fees

The problem is that if you know the personal information of somebody and he scams you then
it's not practical at all to start a legal process or do anything else for a small amount.
So confirming the ID card is not worth much.

you said all ... Small amount

Yes, it's not worth trading even a small amount.
Bigger amounts are absolutely out of the question.

for you maybe, not for all

Sure if anyone is willing to hire a lawyer and track someone that charged back a big amount on PayPal they're free to do so.
It's just me that don't like doing that.

2125  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why PayPal and Bitcoin should partner up. on: March 09, 2015, 10:36:05 PM
i have no idea  Grin What do you think peepz?
Should they or not and why?BTC

I think under some conditions chargeback is a desired feature.
For example in eBay normally that's a good thing when purchasing physical items.
If the seller never sends the merchandise then the payment can be charged back.

So in my opinion it would totally make sense for PayPal to allow funding with BTC and using that funds on eBay.
2126  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Bitcoin exchange in Paypal on: March 09, 2015, 10:22:03 PM
Hello, I need to exchange 0,50btc. I need $ 150 to my account paypal. Only from people who have long been registered member to post comments.
You will also need to have been long registered member. It is the only way people are going to use PayPal. Even then you are mostly going to get attention from scammers. These transactions often end in fraud. Why not just use bitcoin to buy whatever you were going to buy with paypal? It will be cheaper for you.
I need to pay for hosting it unfortunately only payment paypal, and I can not find one exchanger that would provide services in this area, all I've seen are very suspicious, I was the person who helped me with the exchange but he disappeared

Make sure to trade only with trusted people. Don't even consider trading with a newbie with negative trust.
Almost certainly things would go wrong.


Excuse me but where is the risk if he is going to pay with paypal and not receive into it? You can undo the transaction with paypal (not with BTC) right?

OP is paying with BTC which he can't undo. The other party may charge back and scam him.

I'm saying the risk is for OP and my advice was intended to him.

2127  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] BTC via paypal on: March 09, 2015, 10:17:33 PM
I want to do the transaction, but I have to wait next sunday...If you are still interested next sunday, pm me.

Always operate under the assumption that Paypal payments will be charged back later on down the road.

I did a verification with maidak, I sent hm my ID card and my picture holding it.
Just cost me a lot of fees

The problem is that if you know the personal information of somebody and he scams you then
it's not practical at all to start a legal process or do anything else for a small amount.
So confirming the ID card is not worth much.

you said all ... Small amount

Yes, it's not worth trading even a small amount.
Bigger amounts are absolutely out of the question.
2128  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] BTC via paypal on: March 09, 2015, 09:55:00 PM
I want to do the transaction, but I have to wait next sunday...If you are still interested next sunday, pm me.

Always operate under the assumption that Paypal payments will be charged back later on down the road.

I did a verification with maidak, I sent hm my ID card and my picture holding it.
Just cost me a lot of fees

The problem is that if you know the personal information of somebody and he scams you then
it's not practical at all to start a legal process or do anything else for a small amount.
So confirming the ID card is not worth much.
2129  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: SELL PP MYCASH for btc-e or btc on: March 09, 2015, 09:09:31 PM
Fucking dead shit carder fuck off back to hackforums.net you human parasite.

Do not buy or trade with this fuckhead. My Cash codes are carded. No one buy these dirty codes. Bad things will happen to you.

Get fucked and stick the $10,000 of My Cash codes you have up your asshole. What a brain dead lowlife scumbag.

If you were scammed you should leave a review in his trust, and post here.

And always trade safe, using escrow, being alert, and so on.
2130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [CAPT] CAPTcoin - Best distribution! - Best API! - Available on CoinPayments on: March 09, 2015, 08:45:37 PM
ah I didnt know that... when did atomic-trade changed to banx.io
is it a name change or owner ?

Banx.io Acquires Atomic-Trade.com
2131  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Auction] Titan One Physical Bitcoin on: March 09, 2015, 08:07:11 PM
Purchased in 2013 - https://www.titanbtc.com/product/titan-one/

The original Titan certificate is not included.

The case has never been opened. There are scratches on the case, but none on the coin itself.
Pictures: http://imgur.com/k4rhhRS,vXrKsYE

Starting Bid: 1BTC
Bidding Increments: .01BTC
Ending Date: 03/13/2015 @ 9PM EST.
Shipping: will be paid for by winner of the auction

Payment address: 14se35RBY5ZJaH4GyPTfHiFhBGSSGA9E2N


Where do you ship from?
2132  Economy / Economics / Re: Ecuador: There's no *new* digital currency on: March 09, 2015, 06:57:41 PM
Seems like a great way for them track every single thing you buy.

Well it's not mandatory to use the digital currency so not every single thing. Actually very few people are using it at the moment.

And I guess nobody willing to hide the transaction would use it.
2133  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] BTC via paypal on: March 09, 2015, 06:50:37 PM
I had originally marked you with negative feedback because it appeared that you were a sockpuppet of runrun760 who had been flagged as a Teamviewer scammer (they try to get you to connect with Teamviewer to steal your wallet.dat file). However, after continued evaluation, it's more clear that you two are not the same user. I have removed your negative trust -- sorry for the misunderstanding. That being said, users should always exercise caution and use a trusted escrow if there is any significant risk involved.

No offense Tomatocage but I think you should be more confident before leaving a negative review.
We all trust you deeply. I was sure gate11 was a sockpuppet because of this.

@gate11 I should apologize too for being so hard on you.

Anyway I think newbie + PayPal is more than enough not to make this deal.
2134  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 50,000 BTC of acution have been sent! on: March 09, 2015, 06:43:39 PM
50,000 BTC have just been sent! It's clear someone have won the acution. Waitting for further details news.

https://chain.com/bitcoin/addresses/12pCPrWvudnefJCtXQUBcm9z2NogtC3Rix

This is the correct transaction id :

http://chain.bitboat.net/tx/3e1754e8ea62dacb9a17d45a2e4c1acdcbbc1ce1b6c39f59b5336409a0adfa5e


Who has won these 50'000 bitcoins ? I didn't find any "name".

Who made this transaction with 0 fee, the winning bidder must be anxious right now, non-fee transaction might take several days to get a confirmation.


Won't matter with a transaction of this size. I do wonder who won them though. Has this been announced?

Why does everyone keep saying this?  The amount of btc being sent has nothing to do with incurring fees.  Fees are based on the file size of the transaction, not the monetary size.  That being said, every transaction should have a fee associated with it, not sure why this one didn't.

Nobody is saying a bigger transaction will incur more fees.

We're saying a transaction with few (one in this case), big and old inputs do not need any fees.
It is not true that every transaction need to have a fee.

Read this: http://bitcoinfees.com/
Particularly point 3 "Prioritize old and high-value coins".

2135  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC on: March 09, 2015, 06:39:22 PM
Bitcoind is currently playing up. Just waiting on lead dev to get on and fix it. Weird issue we haven't ran into before. Hopefully will have our custom Bitcoind equivalent up & running soon so we won't have to deal with these deposits/withdrawal down times.

I was able to withdraw after about 5 tries in 2 hours.

I hope this issue will be fixed soon.

2136  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] BTC via paypal on: March 09, 2015, 06:30:59 PM
hello
I know that many people are not familiar with paypal, I did 2 transactions with maidak and shdv you can ask them
Plus, I don't want to chargeback, using just a little amounts.
I need to get someone who can sell me 50$ now, will need him for more after.
I am using my balance, for people who are asking why I dont return for the two people who sent me.
I got verified you can ask maidak I sent him all, just the rate is high. about 12%
if you want to trade you are welcome can do even 5$ transactions.


Newbie + red negative trust + PayPal = don't even waste your time.
Sorry to say nobody will bite.


I got the red fuck*** rate from someone who I never talked too

You don't need to talk or trade with somebody to get a feedback in your profile.
You should read the trust guidelines.

If that were a requirements there would be so much more scams around here.

2137  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Bitcoin exchange in Paypal on: March 09, 2015, 06:27:53 PM
Hello, I need to exchange 0,50btc. I need $ 150 to my account paypal. Only from people who have long been registered member to post comments.
You will also need to have been long registered member. It is the only way people are going to use PayPal. Even then you are mostly going to get attention from scammers. These transactions often end in fraud. Why not just use bitcoin to buy whatever you were going to buy with paypal? It will be cheaper for you.
I need to pay for hosting it unfortunately only payment paypal, and I can not find one exchanger that would provide services in this area, all I've seen are very suspicious, I was the person who helped me with the exchange but he disappeared

Make sure to trade only with trusted people. Don't even consider trading with a newbie with negative trust.
Almost certainly things would go wrong.
2138  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] BTC via paypal on: March 09, 2015, 06:25:35 PM
hello
I know that many people are not familiar with paypal, I did 2 transactions with maidak and shdv you can ask them
Plus, I don't want to chargeback, using just a little amounts.
I need to get someone who can sell me 50$ now, will need him for more after.
I am using my balance, for people who are asking why I dont return for the two people who sent me.
I got verified you can ask maidak I sent him all, just the rate is high. about 12%
if you want to trade you are welcome can do even 5$ transactions.


Newbie + red negative trust + PayPal = don't even waste your time.
Sorry to say nobody will bite.
2139  Economy / Services / Re: change background for my website...lol.... 5 Dollar on: March 09, 2015, 06:10:26 PM
can do 6 dollar

Why don't you accept locopao's free help?

If you want someone to do it for you (for $6) you should publish the access restriction (because of privacy) they'll need to handle.

2140  Economy / Economics / Re: A noob question. on: March 09, 2015, 06:04:06 PM
The halving is near, and as many of us know, it will slow the amount of coins "minted" each time the miners find a block. I understand the basic of supply and demand, and I also know that the lesser the supply is, the higher the price. But what if there is a less supply but also less demand on the other side? Would the price still be high as expected? Or will it be low because apparently there are no buyers on the other side of the market?

Confused here. Please help.  Huh  Huh

The halving of the reward is only one factor. Of course if the demand reduces more than the supply then the price will go down.
But the halving means a price increase is more likely (just likely).



As far as I can comprehend (because I am an economics noob) less supply = high price. That was at least what my teachers taught me, but what if less supply = less demand? Would the expected price still high or no? Sorry but I cannot really get it. Huh

Less supply = higher price.
Less demand = lower price.
That's easy with a single variable.

If both supply and demand change then you need to know which changed more.
For example if supply reduces 25% and demand reduces to half then the price will go down.


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