Random claims? Please elaborate.... I was going to post the definition of the word fair as fundamental as it seems that is the the problem. I guess if I had a graph on what "fair" is then I could be considered correct. I thought I was being nice.. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fairSo we are redefining the word "fair" here? You think it's fair to pull the plug on seniors, take away college grants from students, and rip unemployment from the unemployed while we continue to give trillions of dollars in tax cuts to Billionaires? Ever heard of "fair" shared sacrifice? Paul Ryan sure has. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5kgnE1XvecThis guy gets it. shackleford, what you are advocating is the opposite of "fair". The billionaires have had their time, as a society we need to care for our other citizens like the elderly, our students, and those down-on-their-luck individuals on welfare instead. If not, our society will collapse into some awful hellhole catering to the whims of the elite. Some of the most Libertarian country’s on Earth, are the biggest 3'rd world retched hell holes. I am not promoting full-blown socialism, because I do not believe that is the answer. Socialism usually leads to fascism because of the human ego that lies within all of us. The ego is dangerous, and that is why I believe in a perfect balance only granted by the development of new age technologies like Bitcoin. I believe that human beings are inherently imperfect, and I believe that machines have been created to fix these imperfections that we have philosophically imposed on ourselves. Bitcoin is the first of many cryptographic currencies that will help aide in this balancing act that the world is currently going through. We need to begin to appreciate our world status and progress this planet to a whole new level. We need to push the limits of the 1’st world and literally leave our current reality behind. I have been working on a post for about a month, and I think I am going to have to publish it soon, since the times are getting harder. It will be a fully detailed article on what I personally think Bitcoins are, and how I think the United States government and all of its people can benefit greatly from a new age Internet currency. We used to own the Internet back in the 90’s, now it’s our turn to do it again! |
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I don't think calling them names is the best approach for keeping them away from you...
I agree, we need to show them that we are dead serious. And then the games aren't as fun anymore. |
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Do you not have anything better to do then post on a forum repetitively bashing posts? There should be a poll on this.
Ok, look. I will make no bones about the fact that I finally signed up here, after reading a LOT of threads, because I could no longer suppress the urge to respond to Vagetta's posts. I haven't been rude or particularly snarky to him. I have simply tried to inject a bit of level-headedness to what I (and many others) consider delusions of grandeur. He's talking like he's already revolutionized twitter in ways that make no sense and are demonstrably over-inflated, and he now thinks he's set to claim a meager 10% of the online porn industry. If civilly questioning this sort of craziness -- which has nothing to do with bitcoin, I might add -- means I am "bashing" or "trolling" then these forums are even more of an echo chamber than I thought. If Vagetta's plans seem sound and without reproach to a significant number of posters here, then good luck to bitcoin -- you may as well ban me now. If people want bitcoin to be taken seriously, you need to be willing to tell the idiots they're idiots, rather than giving them a big pat on the back for being idiots who like bitcoin. I'll post this over on the other forum too, just in case the libertarian ideal of free speech somehow fails to prevail here.
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Random claims? Please elaborate.... I was going to post the definition of the word fair as fundamental as it seems that is the the problem. I guess if I had a graph on what "fair" is then I could be considered correct. I thought I was being nice.. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fairSo we are redefining the word "fair" here? You think it's fair to pull the plug on seniors, take away college grants from students, and rip unemployment from the unemployed while we continue to give trillions of dollars in tax cuts to Billionaires? Ever heard of "fair" shared sacrifice? Paul Ryan sure has. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5kgnE1Xvec |
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Vegetta, I usually think you come up with some dumb/hateful posts, but this cited, factual correctness from you is shockingly refreshing in contrast with people who just post random claims or make spiteful responses, like shackleford or Atlas
I realize that I have to explain my ideas better so that some people begin to give me the respect I feel I deserve. Lies can be dispelled with truths. Sometimes the truth hurts especially when it's against your own-self. However, the ability to grow during these bad times is crucial for the progression of our race; man-kind. We must dispel the lies within our government, within our businesses, within our communities, and within ourselves... So that we can ultimately find the peace and prosperity we all so eagerly desire. Happiness is the key to the land of divinity my friends… Bill Maher(L) - Ed Shultz(D) - Micheal Steal (R) - Lies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAINcFgagN0&feature=related |
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Why the hell do these douche bags seem to think that this is a Libertarians only forum? I have seen every political ideology in the book on these forums. I myself am a Socialist Liberal... We are a forum of many different professions, backgrounds, political ideology's, and opinions. Why is that so hard to understand?
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"Maybe if Warren Buffet paid a little bit more than just 17.7 percent we wouldn't be in this revenue problem that we're in. Rich people honestly need to start paying their fair share. They are paying the lowest tax rates, of any industrialized country in the world."
Seriously?... your going try to make Buffet look like a bad guy? You think he has 50 billion sitting in a bank account? His net worth is based on stock in the company he has built most of his life. Even though he has this enormous wealth from his company stock he probably lives below the means of your neighbors.
Buffet has pledged to give away 99% of his wealth upon his death. Not doing the standard big inheritance is something I totally agree with as long as it is by his own decision and not a forced government theft.. Still not enough for lefties... you think he needs to sell the ownership of his company to fund the entitlement state right this second.
This prevailing attitude in America makes me want to vomit. I don't care what anyone says.. a flat tax is the only "fair" tax rate if you understand how percentages work.. and most liberals don't or don't care.
Buffet: "I don't have a problem with guilt about money. The way I see it is that my money represents an enormous number of claim checks on society. It's like I have these little pieces of paper that I can turn into consumption. If I wanted to, I could hire 10,000 people to do nothing but paint my picture every day for the rest of my life. And the GDP would go up. But the utility of the product would be zilch, and I would be keeping those 10,000 people from doing AIDS research, or teaching, or nursing. I don't do that though. I don't use very many of those claim checks. There's nothing material I want very much. And I'm going to give virtually all of those claim checks to charity when my wife and I die"
Buffet... of all the people to point the a finger at. (shaking head)
post #14, meet post #15. nobody's trying to make buffet look like a bad guy. and he isn't. that's why he understands that he should be paying mucho mas in taxes. what was the top tax rate, when this country was at its best across the board? when was that? do you even know? Sounds like material straight from a Michael Moore film... same arguments. According to this logic this argument will be made over and over until the rates are at their highest level. Just because somebody can look at a 90%+ tax rate and come to the conclusion it is unjust does not make them an idiot. I am so sick of hearing about the top 2% with Obama and his distortion of "fair". Define: fair (graduated does not fit) Really? The tax burdens are at their lowest point since 1958, yet you have the nerve to suggest that somehow this is an opportunity for the "big bad" government to come in and raise taxes to unheard of levels? Take a look at this graph, it's going to be a real eye opener for you, and if you can follow me now you will see that this is basic high school math.  Tax burdens on the rich decline to record lows...  Debt increases on EVERYONE to record highs... |
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"Maybe if Warren Buffet paid a little bit more than just 17.7 percent we wouldn't be in this revenue problem that we're in. Rich people honestly need to start paying their fair share. They are paying the lowest tax rates, of any industrialized country in the world."
Seriously?... your going try to make Buffet look like a bad guy? You think he has 50 billion sitting in a bank account? His net worth is based on stock in the company he has built most of his life. Even though he has this enormous wealth from his company stock he probably lives below the means of your neighbors.
Buffet has pledged to give away 99% of his wealth upon his death. Not doing the standard big inheritance is something I totally agree with as long as it is by his own decision and not a forced government theft.. Still not enough for lefties... you think he needs to sell the ownership of his company to fund the entitlement state right this second.
This prevailing attitude in America makes me want to vomit. I don't care what anyone says.. a flat tax is the only "fair" tax rate if you understand how percentages work.. and most liberals don't or don't care.
Buffet: "I don't have a problem with guilt about money. The way I see it is that my money represents an enormous number of claim checks on society. It's like I have these little pieces of paper that I can turn into consumption. If I wanted to, I could hire 10,000 people to do nothing but paint my picture every day for the rest of my life. And the GDP would go up. But the utility of the product would be zilch, and I would be keeping those 10,000 people from doing AIDS research, or teaching, or nursing. I don't do that though. I don't use very many of those claim checks. There's nothing material I want very much. And I'm going to give virtually all of those claim checks to charity when my wife and I die"
Buffet... of all the people to point the a finger at. (shaking head)
Did you even take the time to look at the video I posted. I think you will like it  . |
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The United States MUST go bankrupt eventually - it was inevitable once your treasury issued $1 and demanded more than that $1 back (interest). It's the world's largest ponzi scheme - making new money to pay interest on the old. But I agree with Timm that a deal will be reached last minute that will raise the debt limit. An excellent movie explaining this is here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1503769/Maybe if Warren Buffet paid a little bit more than just 17.7 percent we wouldn't be in this revenue problem that we're in. Rich people honestly need to start paying their fair share. They are paying the lowest tax rates, of any industrialized country in the world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu5B-2LoC4s&feature=player_embeddedI don't know what country you are from, but America isn't going anywhere... This entire concept that America is somehow the next Greece is absolute horse crap. America has only dropped about 4% of its world reserve status in the last 4 years, hardly a cause for this extreme panic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_currency#United_States_dollar We just went through one of worst recessions since the great depression, and our world reserve status only dropped from 65.9% in 04 to 61.5% in the final quarter of '10. Obviously the decline is alarming, but we are nowhere near the bottom, and still control over 60% of the worlds reserve currencies. The problem? When Clinton left office in '00 we were 70.5% of the world’s reserve currency, and after 8 years of Bush destruction we were down to 62.1%. How did we get there? How about a Medicare prescription drug program that wasn't paid for, 2 completely unfunded and unnecessary wars, and on top of that unfunded tax cuts for the nation’s top 2 percent. It is no mystery how we got here, whats beyond me is that people can still sit there behind the sea of lies, and somehow demand that America go bankrupt when we are far, far from that. Like the President said in this video, "Contrary to what some people may say, we are not Greece" http://news.yahoo.com/video/politics-15749652/obama-s-armageddon-25952084.htmlWhile times are tough, and Republicans are blocking any reasonable legislation on the hill, things will eventually get better. And it will be the people who were willing to persevere through the hard times that will be on top during good ones. |
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I wanted people to make money from the comfort of their own homes, and earn more than some doctors do, and yeah that’s completely none traditional, and maybe goes against any adult marketer’s perfect vision of an adult cam site. However, I am a dreamer and sometimes I do need to be grounded, but please see that the things that provoked me were things that went against the entire purpose of a wide spread open source currency. Technically these people are already in several different cam sites like Camfrog and Yahoo Cams where women & men perform erotic acts for money and/or "virtual gifts".
Wait, you run a porn site? Eww, now I don't know why I was even defending you. I didn't ask you to defend me miss Pinkie  . And no I don't run one, yet... But yes I am staying away for now. This thread has served it's purpose in letting the Bitcoin community know about the paid to post program @ Tweet Forum. See you guys there ! |
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I think women are smarter than men NOW.
Then by all means you should act on that. On your forum, have each user declare their gender, and give females a higher reward for posting. Maybe us male drones could contribute some of our earnings to their pool as a "thank you" for putting up with our stupidity. We are honestly trying to change things at Tweet Forum. It will be a serious discussion with serious people trying to find themselves through knowledge and self-empowerment. I want it to be a community where everyone is respected, and can grow including me. I have many plans for Tweet Forum 2.0 which will be a fully loaded custom built social news engine that will blend social media and news perfectly together like good wine and cheese. The bigger the site gets, the larger the payouts will be. I am not here to scam anyone, I am not here to cause trouble, and I just want a better future for everyone. Bitcoin is a great way to make money for anyone; I see the way some people talk about Bitcoins on all these different forums. I can assure you that I don't care, because I am making lots of money with Bitcoin, and the dollar bills in my pocket aren't as "ridiculous" as some of you may think. I assure you that if we put our trust on each other, we can change business as usual. Jessy came after me because my site didn’t match her professional opinion, and I respect her for that, however I was going to give the girls more freedom, and even less over head than they had now. We were only going to require simple age verification, but other than that any male/female was welcome to join the site. I wanted people to make money from the comfort of their own homes, and earn more than some doctors do, and yeah that’s completely none traditional, and maybe goes against any adult marketer’s perfect vision of an adult cam site. However, I am a dreamer and sometimes I do need to be grounded, but please see that the things that provoked me were things that went against the entire purpose of a wide spread open source currency. Technically these people are already in several different cam sites like Camfrog and Yahoo Cams where women & men perform erotic acts for money and/or "virtual gifts". Bitcoins alone could fuel an underground video cam market, but honestly it just hasn't caught on with the general public yet. I am going to make it easier for men/women to obtain Bitcoins, and use them through a huge verified cam network, that was built strictly for their own pleasures. No reasonable fetish will be excluded, and everyone will be welcome as long as they follow basic legal guidelines. These will all take time, however I am not a quitter, and neither are my team mates who have been so patient with me and who have had my back every step of the way. I hope to see some of you guys at Tweet Forum, this is seriously my last post about anything that has to do with Bitcams. If you guys want to talk Bitcams please wait for me to open up the new thread once we have some serious content to show you guys. That will be where you guys can give your input on Bitcams, but please not here this is about TweetForum and nothing else. So to leave this all off Bitcoin isn’t going anywhere, Somethingawful isn’t going anywhere, and neither is Tweet Forum. I think we can all agree we don’t like at least one thing in this equation.  |
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I believe women can do amazing things, and are actually intellectually superior to men, with every study proving it.
Well, there goes the equal rights movement.  It's the truth bud , just look at their enrollment rates compared to ours.. http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=98So you believe women were less intelligent than men until around 1978 or so, at which time they surpassed us, and they continue to grow in intellectual superiority? Does that mean a few hundred years ago, when women were not allowed in universities, they had no intelligence at all? How did this miraculous evolution take place so quickly? I think women are smarter than men NOW. |
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I believe women can do amazing things, and are actually intellectually superior to men, with every study proving it.
Well, there goes the equal rights movement. It's the truth bud , just look at their enrollment rates compared to ours.. http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=98 |
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Vegetta, no matter how you slice it, there's no way you can say your forum is currently successful. I ran the math: 82% of the posts on your forum were made by you. I'm not sure how you can be so high and mighty about this project, nor do I understand why you think the people rightfully criticizing you are trolling. It just makes your pompous, misogynistic attitude toward Jesse Kang all the more hilarious.
So this is all about her isn't it ? Glad to know shes in this thread as well. I was so "misogynistic" that I offered her a spot on the team, even though she had no technical background what so ever Offering her a job does not make you less misogynistic. Also she has real industry background, where you have neither background in industry or real technical background besides knowing how to set up forums and basic scripts. You shut out people smarter than you and then continue to make bad decisions. Done replying to you, reported. Counter-reported, for misogyny and for driving out good poster like Jessy Kang and making these forums worse. Congrats on taking good, real-world advice like "listen to people that know what they are doing" and "don't hate women" and completely neglecting it. Hate women? Are you out of your mind sir? When have I ever said I hated women? I didn't drive her out of anywhere, she can come back whenever she wants... Just not to my posts, this forum is pretty big, it's not that hard to avoid me... It goes like this: She gives honest advice, you assume she wants something from you and post: WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO OFFER TO THE TEAM? other than your pathetic opinions. If you have NOTHING to offer to the team, please stay the hell away from my thread. This was not posted here to be "debated" on whether or not the idea will work, by trolls like you.
also quotes like these It's part of the BDSM mentality I guess lol. Maybe shes a tea-bagger Grin.
EDIT: HOPEFULLY the people we hire won't be remotely close to your level of class. You need to learn how to speak to people, and stop over generalizing. Your completely arrogant and need to be taught a valuable lesson in life. Not everything is your way, I know your use to beating on pathetic Neanderthals who get pleasure from your fake "dungeon", but I am not one of them. K?
It surprises me that so many people are going to the aide of an obvious troll, is it because shes a pretty girl?
e: hold up, thats only the first 4 pages Did you also post the third post of the thread with her destroying the entire project? And then at-least 20 other posts after that? I think she was way tougher on me than I ever was on her, anyone can go see the thread and see the truth. She was treating me like I was one of her clients and I was supposed to get on my knees and hand the entire project/domain name/ and idea to her, just because she was more qualified than me in the adult industry. I offered her a stake early in the post, and things just got progressively worse after that. I apologize if I offended anyone by calling her out on her fetish. I am sorry if any men in here got offended because I called them out on their fetish. I have absolutely no problems with alternative lifestyles, and I was simply frustrated when I said some of those mean things. I am sorry if she feels that I was "misogynistic" , that seriously wasn't the case, and it's not who I am. I believe women can do amazing things, and are actually intellectually superior to men, with every study proving it. |
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Vegetta, no matter how you slice it, there's no way you can say your forum is currently successful. I ran the math: 82% of the posts on your forum were made by you. I'm not sure how you can be so high and mighty about this project, nor do I understand why you think the people rightfully criticizing you are trolling. It just makes your pompous, misogynistic attitude toward Jesse Kang all the more hilarious.
So this is all about her isn't it ? Glad to know shes in this thread as well. I was so "misogynistic" that I offered her a spot on the team, even though she had no technical background what so ever Offering her a job does not make you less misogynistic. Also she has real industry background, where you have neither background in industry or real technical background besides knowing how to set up forums and basic scripts. You shut out people smarter than you and then continue to make bad decisions. Done replying to you, reported. Counter-reported, for misogyny and for driving out good poster like Jessy Kang and making these forums worse. Congrats on taking good, real-world advice like "listen to people that know what they are doing" and "don't hate women" and completely neglecting it. Hate women? Are you out of your mind sir? When have I ever said I hated women? I didn't drive her out of anywhere, she can come back whenever she wants... Just not to my posts, this forum is pretty big, it's not that hard to avoid me... EDIT:She just posted the other day, so it seems that she wasn't shaken at all by any of our exchanges, which for the most part remained respectable. I really do wish her the best! http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=13512.msg208001#msg208001So it seems that on top of trolls you guys are liars to ? You just make up random fallacy's and try to portray them as truth to beat your opponents down? |
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You guys have gotten way out of line. This is not a kiddy forum where trolls are welcome to spam the site. There are many professional people here who take Bitcoin and these forums very seriously. You guys are doing a disservice to this establishment and yourselves by being so obnoxiously self-centric. Why is it so “funny” that you guys get enjoyment off demoralizing other people’s hard work? That actually sounds a little sick to me... No one cares about your “jokes”; people come here to talk money and Bitcoins, not to spread "jokes". When I want jokes I go watch George Carlin or Bill Maher, not children from some random site that seems to be charging them just for being members. You guys come troll me when I am offering to help the community and take money out of my own pocket, even though you guys are paying to be part of a troll site? You all should be ashamed of yourselves. Anyone who comes here to cause obvious disruptions deserves to be banished, and never allowed back.
I don't know man you seem pretty self-centrified yourself and wound waaaay too tight. You gotta just chill sometimes, see some perspective and shit, because see when you start a business and try to make some money from people, you need to know what they like, right? I mean paying people Bitcoins to discuss UFOs sounds great for the Dale Gribble demographic, but beyond that... UFO's are a real phenomenon. However there are more serious topics to discuss on Tweet Forum than UFO's. And you know that... And yes I am chilled |
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Vegetta, no matter how you slice it, there's no way you can say your forum is currently successful. I ran the math: 82% of the posts on your forum were made by you. I'm not sure how you can be so high and mighty about this project, nor do I understand why you think the people rightfully criticizing you are trolling. It just makes your pompous, misogynistic attitude toward Jesse Kang all the more hilarious.
So this is all about her isn't it ? Glad to know shes in this thread as well. I was so "misogynistic" that I offered her a spot on the team, even though she had no technical background what so ever Offering her a job does not make you less misogynistic. Also she has real industry background, where you have neither background in industry or real technical background besides knowing how to set up forums and basic scripts. You shut out people smarter than you and then continue to make bad decisions. Done replying to you, reported. |
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Vegetta, no matter how you slice it, there's no way you can say your forum is currently successful. I ran the math: 82% of the posts on your forum were made by you. I'm not sure how you can be so high and mighty about this project, nor do I understand why you think the people rightfully criticizing you are trolling. It just makes your pompous, misogynistic attitude toward Jesse Kang all the more hilarious.
So this is all about her isn't it ? Glad to know shes in this thread as well. I was so "misogynistic" that I offered her a spot on the team, even though she had no technical background what so ever... BTW isn't it her job to be Misandristic since shes into that whole BSDM thing? |
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So do people from somethingawful.com come out and just troll random sites that they seem to think are funny? Lol you guys are all getting banned, I hope you know that. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3413928&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=333#post393631440Every single one of you (I know the people involved) has been reported to the moderators, with the link to your joke thread about Bitcoins on your joke site. There is a reason why some people are successful in life, and some people still live in their parents basements dreading ever being born into existence. Seriously take a look in the mirror (whoever is involved) and ask yourself what you have done today to progress your life? It wasn't trolling my thread for a whole day, and Somethingawful isn't making any of you clowns real money either. No matter how much you guys think you're getting under my skin you're not. If anything you are helping us by giving us all of your time and attention, thus keeping this thread at the very top of the forum, and giving TweetForum even more hits... Use your brains gentlemen. I will pray for you all. I don't know anything about somethingawful.com either but it seems to me like people laughing and making jokes and having fun are getting more out of life than the guy who can't enjoy anything without monetizing it and runs crying to mommymods because those people made jokes, jokes with their words, don't you see?! You guys have gotten way out of line. This is not a kiddy forum where trolls are welcome to spam the site. There are many professional people here who take Bitcoin and these forums very seriously. You guys are doing a disservice to this establishment and yourselves by being so obnoxiously self-centric. Why is it so “funny” that you guys get enjoyment off demoralizing other people’s hard work? That actually sounds a little sick to me... No one cares about your “jokes”; people come here to talk money and Bitcoins, not to spread "jokes". When I want jokes I go watch George Carlin or Bill Maher, not children from some random site that seems to be charging them just for being members. You guys come troll me when I am offering to help the community and take money out of my own pocket, even though you guys are paying to be part of a troll site? You all should be ashamed of yourselves. Anyone who comes here to cause obvious disruptions deserves to be banished, and never allowed back. |
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So do people from somethingawful.com come out and just troll random sites that they seem to think are funny? Lol you guys are all getting banned, I hope you know that. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3413928&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=333#post393631440Every single one of you (I know the people involved) has been reported to the moderators, with the link to your joke thread about Bitcoins on your joke site. There is a reason why some people are successful in life, and some people still live in their parents basements dreading ever being born into existence. Seriously take a look in the mirror (whoever is involved) and ask yourself what you have done today to progress your life? It wasn't trolling my thread for a whole day, and Somethingawful isn't making any of you clowns real money either. No matter how much you guys think you're getting under my skin you're not. If anything you are helping us by giving us all of your time and attention, thus keeping this thread at the very top of the forum, and giving TweetForum even more hits... Use your brains gentlemen. I will pray for you all. Vegetta, I have never been to somethingawful.com - no idea what it is, nor do I care. The only reason I post this is because every time I click on the "Show new replies to your posts." link this thread comes up. You have more than convinced me that anything you run is worth steering clear of, and I have been online probably longer than you have been alive. Go ahead and "pray" for me - I will feel sorry for your gullibility. I don't need your seal of approval sir. You weren't one of the people here initially trolling, so I have no problems with you . Thanks |
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