10к - может и не быть, уж очень сильно его все ждут.

Уже ниже ушли  

Ноябрь - 1 биток = 87 баксов?))))

Зависимость есть и кажется прямая, об этом речь?

Скоро узнаем, биток 10к пробьет или нет - вот в чем вопрос)

Как все ждали отката: на 4к, на 5к, на 6к ... 7к, 8к, 9к - все откатами и дампами молились. А вон оно че, летим и летим, по сути своей - весь год только вверх и летим.

Народ, какие прогнозы по BTC - совсем уже растерялся с этими волнами

We’ve received from Binance a "gift", as they call it, in the amount of 10%. From more than 85.000 USDT, 8.500 USDT we’re allocated in BNB tokens. We’ve exchanged this sum. But what about the remaining 90%? This is where Binance redirects us to its own rules and explains verbatim: We owe you nothing, we don’t have to, and we are not responsible for anything, neither for trading, nor for users' balance, nor for users. You trade at your own risk.

Naturally, this “It is your fault” communication format did not suit us. Our entire situation of conflict (including screenshots of trading days, amounts on the day of trading, correspondence with support) was neatly packed into almost 116 mail envelopes and we start sending out to organizations that we think should monitor the “Unpredictable Cryptocurrency Market” and such “cowboys” as Binance. It should be added that as a result of communication in the ticket system, we could not find out where the physical office of the "corporation" is located, which company manages the exchange, in what jurisdiction, any contacts of the company, the legal department or at least some contacts of individuals. This is all a "mystery of the universal scale."

We attended an organized Meetup in Moscow, expressed our complaints and petitions to the representatives of Binance. They were there and there was no reaction on their part. It seems that such "actions" on the part of Binance are happening all the time and we consider them as fraudulent, including the manipulation of trade and all the rest.

I am publishing a list of organizations for every country that can (and should) be addressed in this situation if anybody needs it:
USA
United Kingdom
France
Germany
The Netherlands
Belgium
Japan
Hong Kong
Australia
India
Switzerland
Malta
China
Singapore
Republic of Korea

The organizations:
Japan Financial Intelligence Office (JAFIO)
Criminal Investigation Department India
Joint Cipher Bureau India
Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MII) China
Internet Society of China (ISC)
State service for coordinating the fight against crime on the Internet ( SCOCI Switzerland)
Cybercrime Coordination Unit Switzerland (CYCO)
Money Laundering Reporting Office Switzerland (MROS)
Suspicious Transaction Reporting Office (STRO Singapore)
FBI - USA
Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC) – USA
National Cyber-Forensics and Training Alliance (Ncfta) – USA
National Central Bureaus (NCBs)
Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) - USA
Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) – USA
National Futures Association (NFA) – USA
Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA) – USA
Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) – USA
Department of Justice USA
Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section (CCIPS) – USA
New York City Department of Finance (DFS) – USA
Federal Reserve System (FED) – USA
Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence (TFI) – USA
Department of the Treasury USD
Governor and Company of the Bank of England - United Kingdom
Police United Kingdom
National Police Business Crime - United Kingdom
National Cybersecurity Center (NCS) - United Kingdom
National Crime Agency (NCA) - United Kingdom
Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC) - United Kingdom
The Serious Fraud Office (SFO) - United Kingdom
Ministry of Justice United Kingdom
Transparency International UK (TI-U) - United Kingdom
Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) - United Kingdom
The Anti-Money Laundering Forum is an initiative from the International Bar Association (ALMF) - United Kingdom
Financial Services Compensation Scheme (FSCS) - United Kingdom
European Securities and Markets Authority (ESMA) – France
The European Banking Authority (EBA) – France
Interpol
Ministère de l'Économie et des Finances (TRACFIN) – France
Financial Action Task Force (FATF) – France
Council of Europe European Committee on Crime Problems (CDPC) – France
European Insurance and Occupational Pensions Authority (EIOPA) – Germany
Europol - The Netherlands
Eurojust - The Netherlands
European Anti-Fraud Office (OLAF) – Belgium
National Police Agency – Japan
Bank of Japan
Ministry of Finance (Japan)
Financial Services Agency (FSA) – Japan
Japan Securities Dealers Association (JSDA) – Japan
Securities and Futures Commission (SFC) – Hong Kong
Hong Kong Police Force
HONG KONG Monetary Authority
Security Bureau Hong Kong
Joint Financial Intelligence Unit (JFI) - Hong Kong
Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) – Australia
Reserve Bank of India (RBI) – India
The Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI) – India
Indian Police Service
Intelligence Bureau India
Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) – India
Swiss Financial Market Supervisory Authority (Finma) – Switzerland
Money Laundering Reporting Office Switzerland (MROS) – Switzerland
Federal Office of Police Switzerland
Swiss National Bank (SNB)
Nachrichtendienst des Bundes (NDB) - Switzerland
The Malta Financial Services Authority (MFSA) – Malta
Central Bank of Malta
Cyber Crime Unit Malta
Financial Intelligence Analysis Unit (FIAU) – Malta
China Securities Regulatory Commission (CSRC) – China
CBRC – China
The peoples Bank of China
Ministry of Public Security (MPS) – China
Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS) - Singapore
Singapore Police Force
Cyber Security Agency Singapore
Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB) – Singapor
FSS - Republic of Korea
Korea's Financial Services Commission (FSC) - Republic of Korea
FIU - Republic of Korea
Bank of Korea
National Police Agency - Republic of Korea
SUPREME PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE - Republic of Korea
KFIU - Republic of Korea
National Intelligence Service (NIS) - Republic of Korea
Ministry of National Defense - Republic of Korea
Korea Financial Intelligence Unit (KoFI) - Republic of Korea


If someone needs contacts: emails, telephones, faxes, addresses of each organization, then write to us, and we will provide them.

At the same time, we are planning to create a web resource to highlight this problem, to collect "secret information" about the "secret corporation", to gather similar stories and methods for getting out of them. Nevertheless, traders also have rights, and the exchange should have its own obligations, and not just receive a commission, sell its useless tokens, and manipulate the market. 

I will publish later the address of the web resource, and we will continue.

8700 - 2019 год, год возможностей. Интересно, на 10к сходим до конца месяца или на сентябрь?

А Тезер все печатают и печатают. Попугали и опять за старое.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5142525.0 - Судебные тяжбы с Binance - юрисдикция, регуляторы

Получили от Binance - "подарок", как они его называют в виде "покрытия убытка в размере 10%". Из более чем 85.000 USDT, выделили 8.500 USDT в токенах BNB. Обменяли, вывели. Остальные 90%, включается мантра, где Binance тыкает ссылкой на свои же правила и объясняет дословно: Мы ничего Вам не должны, не обязаны, и ни за что не несем ответственность, ни за торговлю, ни за балансы пользователей, ни за средства пользователей - Вы торгуете на свой страх и риск.

Естественно, такой формат общения "сам дурак" нас не устроил, всю нашу конфликтную ситуацию (включая скриншоты торговых дней, объемы в день торговли, переписку с саппортом), аккуратно упаковали в почти 116 почтовых конвертов и начинаем рассылку по организациям, которые по нашему мнению должны следить за "Диким рынком Криптовалюты" и за такими "ковбоями" как Binance. Стоит добавить, что в результате общения в тикетной системе - мы так и не смогли узнать где находится физический офис "корпорации", какая компания управляет биржей, в какой юрисдикции, какие-либо контакты компании, юридического отдела или хоть какие-то контакты физических лиц. Все это "тайна вселенского масштаба".

Мы присутствовали на организованном Mitape в Москве, передали наши жалобы и прошения представителям Binance - которые были, тоже, абсолютно никакой реакции. Такое впечатление, что подобные "действия" в Binance поставлены на поток и мы их рассматриваем как мошеннические, включая манипуляцию торговлей и всем прочем.

Если кому-то нужно, публикую список организаций в которые можно (и нужно) обращаться в данной ситуации, по странам:
USA
United Kingdom
France
Germany
The Netherlands
Belgium
Japan
Hong Kong
Australia
India
Switzerland
Malta
China
Singapore
Republic of Korea

Непосредственно организации:
Japan Financial Intelligence Office (JAFIO)
Criminal Investigation Department India
Joint Cipher Bureau India
Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MII) China
Internet Society of China (ISC)
State service for coordinating the fight against crime on the Internet ( SCOCI Switzerland)
Cybercrime Coordination Unit Switzerland (CYCO)
Money Laundering Reporting Office Switzerland (MROS)
Suspicious Transaction Reporting Office (STRO Singapore)
FBI - USA
Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC) – USA
National Cyber-Forensics and Training Alliance (Ncfta) – USA
National Central Bureaus (NCBs)
Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) - USA
Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) – USA
National Futures Association (NFA) – USA
Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA) – USA
Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) – USA
Department of Justice USA
Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section (CCIPS) – USA
New York City Department of Finance (DFS) – USA
Federal Reserve System (FED) – USA
Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence (TFI) – USA
Department of the Treasury USD
Governor and Company of the Bank of England - United Kingdom
Police United Kingdom
National Police Business Crime - United Kingdom
National Cybersecurity Center (NCS) - United Kingdom
National Crime Agency (NCA) - United Kingdom
Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC) - United Kingdom
The Serious Fraud Office (SFO) - United Kingdom
Ministry of Justice United Kingdom
Transparency International UK (TI-U) - United Kingdom
Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) - United Kingdom
The Anti-Money Laundering Forum is an initiative from the International Bar Association (ALMF) - United Kingdom
Financial Services Compensation Scheme (FSCS) - United Kingdom
European Securities and Markets Authority (ESMA) – France
The European Banking Authority (EBA) – France
Interpol
Ministère de l'Économie et des Finances (TRACFIN) – France
Financial Action Task Force (FATF) – France
Council of Europe European Committee on Crime Problems (CDPC) – France
European Insurance and Occupational Pensions Authority (EIOPA) – Germany
Europol - The Netherlands
Eurojust - The Netherlands
European Anti-Fraud Office (OLAF) – Belgium
National Police Agency – Japan
Bank of Japan
Ministry of Finance (Japan)
Financial Services Agency (FSA) – Japan
Japan Securities Dealers Association (JSDA) – Japan
Securities and Futures Commission (SFC) – Hong Kong
Hong Kong Police Force
HONG KONG Monetary Authority
Security Bureau Hong Kong
Joint Financial Intelligence Unit (JFI) - Hong Kong
Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) – Australia
Reserve Bank of India (RBI) – India
The Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI) – India
Indian Police Service
Intelligence Bureau India
Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) – India
Swiss Financial Market Supervisory Authority (Finma) – Switzerland
Money Laundering Reporting Office Switzerland (MROS) – Switzerland
Federal Office of Police Switzerland
Swiss National Bank (SNB)
Nachrichtendienst des Bundes (NDB) - Switzerland
The Malta Financial Services Authority (MFSA) – Malta
Central Bank of Malta
Cyber Crime Unit Malta
Financial Intelligence Analysis Unit (FIAU) – Malta
China Securities Regulatory Commission (CSRC) – China
CBRC – China
The peoples Bank of China
Ministry of Public Security (MPS) – China
Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS) - Singapore
Singapore Police Force
Cyber Security Agency Singapore
Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB) – Singapor
FSS - Republic of Korea
Korea's Financial Services Commission (FSC) - Republic of Korea
FIU - Republic of Korea
Bank of Korea
National Police Agency - Republic of Korea
SUPREME PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE - Republic of Korea
KFIU - Republic of Korea
National Intelligence Service (NIS) - Republic of Korea
Ministry of National Defense - Republic of Korea
Korea Financial Intelligence Unit (KoFI) - Republic of Korea



Если кому-то нужны собранные контакты: емаилы, телефоны, факсы, адреса каждой из организации - пишите, предоставим.

Параллельно, планируем создать веб-ресурс для освещение данной проблемы, для сбора "тайной информации" о "тайной корпорации", сбору подобных историй и методов выхода из них. Все же, права есть и у трейдеров, а у биржи должны быть свои обязательства, а не только получать комиссию, продавать свои говнотокены, манипулировать рынком.

Урл веб-ресурса - опубликую позднее и двигаемся дальше.

Боты

Биток как всегда - неожиданно мачканул

Опять видимо все лонги?
Народ, где оптимальнее всего поиграться в лонги/шорты? На какой бирже? Чтобы без KYS и прочей заразы.

Goran_ - что там с ростом/падением? Какие прогнозы - опять вернулись на 8к.

9100... и год ещё не закончился, ещё все впереди.

До 28.06 - может и вырастет ещё.
С 28.06 - до конца сентября (там полугодовалые вроде фьючерсы) - смотреть по картине.
В общем - ясно, что ничего не ясно.

7900 - не сильно то и упали, понимать бы - пуганули и опять вверх? Или какие мысли... хотя лето впереди, не совсем период для буллрана.

Это месячные или на какой срок? Странно конечно, что CME в лонге... их то брить не должны поидее