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2121  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Today I helped 2 non-crypto people invest in bitcoin on: September 19, 2021, 06:16:13 PM
Otherwise, i only suggest buying a whole bitcoin.
Why? I don't understand the fixation that people have with whole numbers. I have a friend who is slowly showing some interest in Bitcoin, but he is so concerned about owning a whole Bitcoin and is not considering smaller amounts. One day he said he doesn't think he will ever have enough to purchase 1 BTC. I keep telling him how ridiculous that is, because he can purchase much smaller amounts. I tried to make a comparison with fiat and explained it to him like this:

When you get your monthly salary, you aren't getting round numbers. You aren't being paid $10.000 a month. Maybe you earn $1374/month. You didn't turn your job down because the pay isn't a nice round number. Why don't you apply the same logic to Bitcoin?


@Imran232
Can I ask what level of experience and knowledge you have about crypto and what research have you done to feel comfortable in recommending those coins to your family? Where are they storing their digital assets? What did you tell them about protecting private keys and seeds? Crypto isn't like the stock market? If Bitcoin dumps, so will the rest of your uncle's portfolio. If Bitcoin rises, so will the majority of alts.   

Very good portfolio. It is recommended by almost the majority to invest in the top 10 of the crypto market.
Recommended by whom? How profitable will that investment be long-term? Check the top 10 coins from 10 years ago, do you recognize any? Check the top 10 from 5 years ago, how many of those are still in the Top 10 today?

Exactly, I get the point here, that the level of reputation alone is not a reference but a growth from day to day. Regarding the reference to the 10 rankings, it is only an assumption and not from what is happening in the field. The point is that progress in investing does not have to drop all of one's finances in one purchase. It could be once a month, because the price cycle you get will vary and have several different profit values. Isn't that what you mean? In addition to learning, it is also an adaptation to recognize every investment advantage last month with the next month's clearly visible comparison.
2122  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Liberalization of cryptocurrency in Ukraine - attractiveness for Gambling ?! on: September 19, 2021, 05:53:01 PM
- Are you ready to potentially play on sites that will be located, or will be registered, in Ukraine?
- To become a key set of "features" for you that would attract you?
- What will be negative for you when placing gambling sites in Ukraine?

We'd be happy to visit it and take a gamble to test what makes it different from other sites, because usually sites that are legal and fairly free are protected by Ukrainian rules and are quite different.
As for the negative values, it all goes back to the views of the people there, whether it disturbs the stability of the individual economy or actually provides fun entertainment. There must also be a positive value, so it all depends on how wisely the casino is legalized with the applicable rules and regulations.
2123  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Understand trading on: September 18, 2021, 09:00:04 PM
the main point is to increase knowledge about trading, as much as possible multiply and deepen knowledge about trading. if it has been done then we can try it with a little capital first. all of that requires a process and also needs to be trained so it does need more effort. Over time, of course, we can understand and analyze the market well so that we can determine the right time to sell or buy coins. it is necessary so that we can make a profit in trading.
If a newbie would follow your advice they might as well lose those funds first and it would be difficult for them to recover it. There are tons of useful information on the internet and especially the ones that these people posted here that has a link is very, very useful if someone is eager to understand how trading works.

Trading is different from gambling and what you are trying to teach to them is more like of a gamble. Which means they have to practice on the actual market where they don't have a proper knowledge and experience about trading. So I think you know what's the problem if someone actually dive in on a whale market.

I don't think there is anything wrong with what he proposes, even the concept is quite easy to understand, knowledge, learning process and output are profit? Where do I find the type of gambling here?
Do you understand gambling and the concept of betting on luck and also easy to lose? Your logic is actually reversed, so in the trading he mentioned and the point is that's what it is.
2124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Timing is important on: September 18, 2021, 08:16:54 PM
The market runs as it should, is reasonable and there should be no interference from other parties, except for external conditions that often cause price increases. One of them is the trend, adoption, development of crypto commodities, and other things that refer to improvement. The market will continue and you can determine the target to enter based on the conditions that you think are quite ideal for trading.

But for some day trading traders, any situation can be exploited with their skills in controlling price movements. For beginners it is not the right method when determining the day trade.
2125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: TALK token good to invest at current price ? on: September 18, 2021, 06:15:08 PM
Hi everyone

Do you think TALK token price can increase to +10 sat ?

TALK is the official coin of cryptotalk forum and the the devs

already said they have plans that will make the price grow

do you think we should buy TALK now at 1 sat ?

https://yobit.io/en/trade/TALK/BTC

It all depends on what will happen with the entire cryptocurrency market, and above all with Bitcoin. If the bull run continues for the next few months, it is very likely that TALK will hit 10 sat. However, if the bear market starts soon, unfortunately it may turn out that this investment will have to wait until the next bull market.

And it is not a good investment for anyone to rely solely on altcoins, not even TALK Tokens. I hope you do a thorough research on how this can be considered a mere manipulation token. Sometimes it can't be the benchmark for pumping TALK because Bitcoin bulls, even they can easily pump in a bear market. That's why we'd rather suggest that the OP doesn't spend his investment opportunity in junk Tokens as it's just chasing 10 sat on instinct. At CoinMarketCap there are still many options that are far more secure in terms of security or if you find it difficult go straight to the point, namely Bitcoin.
2126  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Book/Website Suggestions ? on: September 18, 2021, 05:27:24 PM
I'm surprised to know that there's something as gambling book, I was wondering what are those book for. Strategy? Facts or history about the gambling? I think the only interested with that are serious gamblers. As for me I am not really interested with books I just keep enjoying playing gambling site and always losing.

There is nothing wrong for you to try to read some books with a small nature. Because reading literacy is important for those of us who often discuss let alone talk about gambling. At least it can give you some new knowledge that is not obtained from gambling practice. After all, the book was made by those who have experience in gambling so that you can find assumptions, theoretical linkages and knowledge of how to read situations there. But don't expect more from just reading a book or two. Think of it only as a guide to add scientific insight.

Point taken. I do appreciate and comprehend what you have stated here, maybe it’s just not really mt thing and we have different preferences on doing things, in this case gambling. I may try reading the books, but as you have stated I am not expecting much from it, especially because the information can be also something that needs updating from time to time because of the ever changing situations.

Maybe the theory in the 2020 book can't necessarily be proven true with the experience of gambling directly at the 2021 casino. That's why I prefer to read books about gambling as a form of scientific insight, or appreciate the writings of others. Just as the theory is always inconsistent with jumping in the field which has a more real possibility of creating when you gamble at a particular casino. Sometimes great gamblers are born not because of insight from what they read, but more dominantly from direct experience that he experienced. Is not it?
2127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best time to play online slots on: September 17, 2021, 06:13:53 PM
I believe more when there is a new game or promo, it is 70% of the time that can give a winning slot. For example, casino sites that offer signup with bonuses will often give us the first win to give confidence that the game we are playing is really easy to win, then entice others to try again with a personal deposit. Regarding the time that is considered Myth I have not found the truth for now. Perhaps gambling is often associated with ancestral culture.
2128  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Book/Website Suggestions ? on: September 17, 2021, 04:33:55 PM
I'm surprised to know that there's something as gambling book, I was wondering what are those book for. Strategy? Facts or history about the gambling? I think the only interested with that are serious gamblers. As for me I am not really interested with books I just keep enjoying playing gambling site and always losing.

There is nothing wrong for you to try to read some books with a small nature. Because reading literacy is important for those of us who often discuss let alone talk about gambling. At least it can give you some new knowledge that is not obtained from gambling practice. After all, the book was made by those who have experience in gambling so that you can find assumptions, theoretical linkages and knowledge of how to read situations there. But don't expect more from just reading a book or two. Think of it only as a guide to add scientific insight.
2129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: TALK token good to invest at current price ? on: September 16, 2021, 07:47:22 PM
If there is an exchange other than Yobit, maybe we can consider whether it can really provide a new breakthrough in the altcoin industry. Can you show us their reviewable site and see how we can analyze it. I looked it up and couldn't find it on CoinMarketCap nor could I find it on CoinGecko. Then so far we've stayed away from the Yobit exchange.
Currently TALK token trading only in yobit exchange i don't know if they will list it in new excahnges

So you should be careful with the Yobit exchange, its history might make you think twice. Don't just because these coins are still cheap and you forget the main thing in terms of the security of your funds. Buy coins or tokens that are already listed on major exchanges like Binance. Instead of you not doing any research on TALK, so my advice is just that, back to the criteria for the coin you want.
2130  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers. on: September 16, 2021, 05:16:11 PM
If children are up to 10 years old, we don't need to worry, because children that age still haven't shown valid data about what they access and what they watch. remember that their world is different from ours, they only access shows according to their growth like cartoons. It's still too far to access gambling even if it comes to gambling, maybe just games and videos of their age.
The generation is way too different now, some where engaged in playing but now with money involve. We should still be careful and watch what they are doing. Playing with money involve even just a little amount is consider gambling and now that everything online is accessible we must lomit what our child uses. There are apps where we can lock or use kid mode operation in our mobile to avoid them using our accounts if ever they also uses our mobile.


You are right, that caution is the main thing and needs to be given more attention to children. As parents, apart from controlling, we must also be able to provide limits in providing pocket money, this is in order to minimize deposit activities to one of the gambling sites. But is this too far-fetched if children under the age of 10 have to go this far to access the internet? I don't really believe in this.
2131  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: TALK token good to invest at current price ? on: September 16, 2021, 04:18:55 PM
If there is an exchange other than Yobit, maybe we can consider whether it can really provide a new breakthrough in the altcoin industry. Can you show us their reviewable site and see how we can analyze it. I looked it up and couldn't find it on CoinMarketCap nor could I find it on CoinGecko. Then so far we've stayed away from the Yobit exchange.
2132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I think Ethereum is more dynamic than bitcoin on: September 16, 2021, 02:59:47 PM
Friends who support bitcoin will despise other coins, and he will scoff at new play items in the market. Friends who support Ethereum are very interested in new projects and will understand or participate in them. Over time, I feel that the friends who support bitcoin are conservatives.

I think this needs to be clarified, it doesn't apply to us. There is no such thing as hating one coin to another, we consider it all to survive for the sake of mutual support between cryptocurrencies. It's just that each network does have a different version so delivery is the most important thing because until now Ethereum has not been friends with us regarding GAS.
I'm not denying how we really should own Ethereum, but that doesn't mean we're denying a potentially great coin in the future. Only quality issues are considered by every trader or investor as transaction fees.
2133  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling awareness for adolescents on: September 16, 2021, 02:09:10 PM
Before it can expand to all countries, we need to wait for the result from that country so we know what needs to be added and what needs to be remove so that can work well in the other countries. The other countries situations will be different from the previous country so it will need adjustable based on that country's condition. If that can succeed to be apply in many countries, the teenagers who addicted to gambling can be reduced and that means, teenagers will be carefully to playing gambling and always have control over themselves.

In addition, what needs to be used as a benchmark is the government's policy in the country regarding whether gambling is legal or not. According to what I've seen where I live, this is something that is still forbidden for young people to access gambling in any way they find without anyone's knowledge. Vigilance is indeed necessary to guard against things that are not wanted, but not too apathetic about what young people are doing.
2134  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers. on: September 16, 2021, 01:33:25 PM
We are in the information age right now, children are smarter than the old us when we were just kids. Kids that are 2 years old nowadays can open your phone easily if it doesn't have any password, what more to a 5-10 years old kids, right? They could easily navigate and explore the internet without their parents knowing, that's why it is important for parents to monitor their children screen time.

Everything is in the internet, just input a certain keyword and that's it, they are expose already to something they shouldn't have see or do.

If children are up to 10 years old, we don't need to worry, because children that age still haven't shown valid data about what they access and what they watch. remember that their world is different from ours, they only access shows according to their growth like cartoons. It's still too far to access gambling even if it comes to gambling, maybe just games and videos of their age.
2135  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Concern about the the problem of online underaged gamblers. on: September 15, 2021, 09:38:33 PM
Those pop up ads really target everyone that's visiting their website and whoever clicks it. There's no solution on this as they can pop everywhere but with the guidance of the parents of the young ones, I think it's the best thing to do to avoid them being exposed in gambling at a young age.
It is also needed to raise awareness on this matter because there might be parents that cannot do that because of busyness and they are not aware of such so, letting them be aware of it, they might take action like blocking those sites that their kids might accidentally visit.
Well, I think ads can be mitigated by using some ad/pop up blockers or simply choose some browsers that ads free with the likes of Brave browser or whatever they could think of that can be a solution may it be free or paid. Most parents these days can't afford the guidance when it comes to these gadgets unless they're knowledgeable enough to for some mitigation and know-how.
I agree with you, that's why it's very important for parents to keep an eye on their children playing gadgets at this time and even if possible parents should always check the browser and application history on their child's gadgets, so that at least parents can anticipate the bad effects that children might get. from the gadgets, but unfortunately nowadays it is parents who plunge children into bad things in my opinion, because many parents are now spoiling their children by giving gadgets without caring that they are underage.


Even his own parents are busy with their own gadgets. Usually when they are just gathered in one room and they are all busy with what they are holding each other, never controlling what they access even they are not aware of each other. So far, the role of parents is not to provide any learning to children. The tendency to access prohibited sites is difficult to control if all of them do not provide education that truly educates their own children, what parents do is the most vulnerable example for children to imitate.
2136  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling awareness for adolescents on: September 15, 2021, 07:19:23 PM
If we can touch the teenagers to have or do something good that they can do and seriously do that thing, the teenagers will not even think to do something wrong in their lives. Even they will get to do the other good things to use their time to make a good thing. That programs is good but needs more supports from the parents who have children or teenagers because the first guard the young people is their parents. The government or instance or charity is a back up when the parents need help for more and hopefully, that can help the younger people to have a better life.


Obviously, because of the motivational factors from family, friends, the environment also has the potential to provide a faster impetus in improving his bad habits. Especially if the motivation to change to something positive comes from self-awareness. Of course I believe their parents will be very supportive of what will be done as a form of education in a direction that can provide positive things. Trust the family is the first to give full support.
Yes, it is. Their parents will really help them to build self-awareness that has already been lost before so they can change for the better. If they can get full support from their family, their recovery process will not take too long because he will see that every people in his family does not want to see he is in his downfall. When a good meet big support, that will be a big power for him to change his bad habits because he knows that people around him will always help him.

I hope this program expands in all countries that dominate youth gambling. However, lately the pandemic has brought many young people into the world of gambling because they have been hit by mass layoffs. In fact, I can see that where I live, in every gathering place for teenagers there is always one gambling online and the other being watched. So it gradually affects the others. I need to think about the same thing in a small area, for example providing education about the dangers of gambling, especially to those closest to me.
2137  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Understand trading on: September 15, 2021, 06:02:49 PM
What are the most recommended methods that one could use to Understand trading?

Trading has become fairly popular, as it is now accessible to everyone while also increasing one's income. However, a lack of information can be risky because it might result in losses. This is why, before entering the forex market, one should get a thorough understanding of the subject.


With limited knowledge, you should avoid trading on Forex. I suggest you pay more attention to the charts which will give you more time to control the trade. In fact, many people closest to me have complained when they started trading but entered the Forex market. Nothing profitable there. Then I introduced crypto to them until now they just said "I regret why I didn't trade crypto in the first place, I regret knowing Forex as the first trading platform known".

From this statement, can you take the point?
2138  Economy / Economics / Re: How to Influence the Bitcoin Market on: September 15, 2021, 03:53:24 PM
We know that we cannot do according to the simple procedure you wrote in the thread. Even those points are not enough how the whale can get to the high point and identify the market price. I wouldn't think too much about being like Elon Musk or maybe there's another name for him "someone who hides in his every tweet".
You don't have to be that big to be categorized as someone who can influence the market. In fact: if there is one person who can only spend $10 in cryptocurrency and interact by trading it in the market, I believe in a small context that that person has contributed to represent the 100 people in the world who don't own crypto.
2139  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling awareness for adolescents on: September 15, 2021, 03:08:03 PM
If we can touch the teenagers to have or do something good that they can do and seriously do that thing, the teenagers will not even think to do something wrong in their lives. Even they will get to do the other good things to use their time to make a good thing. That programs is good but needs more supports from the parents who have children or teenagers because the first guard the young people is their parents. The government or instance or charity is a back up when the parents need help for more and hopefully, that can help the younger people to have a better life.


Obviously, because of the motivational factors from family, friends, the environment also has the potential to provide a faster impetus in improving his bad habits. Especially if the motivation to change to something positive comes from self-awareness. Of course I believe their parents will be very supportive of what will be done as a form of education in a direction that can provide positive things. Trust the family is the first to give full support.
2140  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Book/Website Suggestions ? on: September 14, 2021, 07:35:02 PM
I don't have too many references to reading about gambling books, especially blackjack, but there are some that I found, such as Knock-Out Blackjack: The Easiest Card-Counting System Ever Devised (Gambling Theories Methods) which is a book by Olaf Vancura and Ken Fuchs. but I would suggest you to visit the book gallery where I think your beloved father can learn.
You can easily download it as a FILE.


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