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2121  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Earning enough with Bitcoin without Job ? on: October 02, 2017, 02:06:51 AM
By joining the social media campaign  and signature  campaign, you can earn money everyday. so that, it's help you to get a better life.on the other hand,job paid money to you monthly. so,i think without a job, you can earn enough with bitcoin.
I agree, it is possible if we work hard, do not also rely on the value of bitcoin that it will still increase also work hard to gain profit everyday or every month. We can join social media campaign and signature campaign, or maybe you can also trade and invest if you already have a good amount of bitcoin.  Cheesy
same here, even without a job just like me i can earn enough for my daily needs since im still a student but im not waiting for my parents to give me money, im providing what i need for myself since the first time i earn my own money.
Well, that's a big help to your family, especially for us who has just enough income for our daily needs. We are not that rich people that just relying on our parents, we need to work hard for our daily expenses and needs especially for our families and education, so, bitcoin is a big help for everyone especially for us and I am so lucky that I've known bitcoin than anyone else, because there are still a lot of people that doesn't have idea about bitcoin. Even I don't have a regular job. I still earn because of bitcoin.
2122  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will rise up or fall down? on: October 02, 2017, 12:50:41 AM
I am less affected by rumors thrown by those who want to dredge bitcoin at low price. I still stick to the optimistic thinking. bitcoin only experienced a small weakness, no need to worry.
Yeah, I agree bitcoin will rise no matter how deep bitcoin price drop. It will still rise and recover its price because all of us know the potential of bitcoin and a lot of people still continue to use and earn it.
2123  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: you need to overcome your fear of losing money on: October 02, 2017, 12:47:11 AM
Losing is part of successfully trading. If you treat losing as part of trading then you are an experienced trader.
I agree, all of us experience to lose for us to learn more to improve our strategies to get more income in trading.

If you know the saying that "Everything has a first time" then probably you will know that every person take's all the risk to reach their position right know. Losing your profit will make you learn more strategic ways in your next trading.
That's right when it really comes in earning money but you need capital, it really takes risk and you must know how to take risk because if not you will not going to move forward and you will not know the outcome of your taking risk.
2124  Economy / Speculation / Re: what will you do? on: October 01, 2017, 03:22:02 PM
hi, what will you do? If the bitcoin price is suddenly cheap
If that happens, no need to wait long I will soon buy bitcoin and keep it for a long time. because I am sure that bitcoin will return to a higher value after it decreases, because we know the value of bitcoin is unstable.
Yeah, being an unstable value of bitcoin, we all know that bitcoin after dropping its price its suddenly rise again. So once bitcoin price falls down, don't double think, buy bitcoin and hold it for a long time.
2125  Economy / Speculation / Re: what will you do? on: October 01, 2017, 03:14:50 PM
hi, what will you do? If the bitcoin price is suddenly cheap
We all don't have any control with the price of bitcoin. So, we cannot do anything unless we sell all our bitcoin with a cheap amount. But if I were you i will still hold and wait for the price to recover.

Selling your bitcoin is not the only way to test the current situation now. If you sell it in a cheaper amount you're having panics and the best way to prevent that for now is you must hold and save your bitcoin, because eventually after this fluctuations with such large drop of price, this will rise again ang gain greater value. So have patience and everything will be back to normal pumps will happen again next days to come.
I agree, even if bitcoin price drop I think bitcoin will still recover. So, if I were you, I will still hold and for the price of bitcoin to still rise for me to gain profit  Grin and of course for us to gain not only me but also us.
2126  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your stress reliever ? on: October 01, 2017, 03:03:44 PM
Sometimes I listening music and watching movies. I am also happy when I am with my family because they are special to me and I want them to be with me and be happy. So I want to do everything for them because they are my stress reliever Cheesy.
2127  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: you need to overcome your fear of losing money on: October 01, 2017, 02:59:31 PM
Losing is part of successfully trading. If you treat losing as part of trading then you are an experienced trader.
I agree, all of us experience to lose for us to learn more to improve our strategies to get more income in trading.
2128  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how improve trading on: October 01, 2017, 02:55:27 PM
You must know when you will sell and buy, you can actually learn by yourself by reading here in trading discussion and we can also search from Google and YouTube about training with trading.
2129  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Dividing your salary. on: October 01, 2017, 02:45:21 PM
Hello, as we all know that Bitcoin is heading straight to the moon. Me, as an employee, do also invest with this cryptocurrency, and I kinda need to divide all of my salary for my needs, and on how much should I invest in? Let's talk about percentage. Anyone?
It is depend on your everyday needs because in my situation maybe I can just invest 1/4 of my salary and the excess is for our daily needs and bills. As much as possible if you can invest half of your salary then why not? As long as you have a good profit with investing.

Same as you I would surely invest a little percentage on my salary since I can't afford to see it loss if we will be beaten on our investments or trades. And I have so many needs that needed to be care off thats why I'm not going to invest the all of it and maybe I will think more than twice ahead since money is more valuable for me by this time.
That's true, all of us especially who needs extra income have a lot of expenses in our everyday needs, our foods, bills, emergency uses like medicine, in schools, so not all of our income can go in our trading activity, we also need to be extra careful for our trading activity because we need to value our income for our family and we need to be responsible.
2130  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: October 01, 2017, 02:27:12 PM
I think that trade is not like gambling, because with the acquisition of experience and knowledge it is possible to consistently receive a good income unlike gambling which is based only on luck.
I agree they are different they cannot be considered the same, gambling is only base on luck which we don't know when we will make profit from it, unlike trading we can use our knowledge and analization we can make a good profit from it..
They are different but not completely. Anytime a gambling may become trading and trading is more vulnerable to become similar to gambling. A trader is betting on prices and a sports betting gambler is betting on a football player. If you go for deep consideration you may realize the exact similarities between these two.
I don't agree that they have similarities, we bet in gambling while at the same time we play a game. Trading is not a game, we all know when we enter trading, we wants to gain profit right? And in gambling, we all know that we can win and we can lose, so there is no assurance at all. Trading cannot be gambling.
2131  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: October 01, 2017, 02:24:03 PM
I think investing is more risky than gambling because most of investing websites are just scam, but in gambling you have better chances to make your bitcoin grow. How about you guys what do you think?
actually, they're both  more risky. Whether you do gamble or investing into something. But majority of the people they choose to invest than to gamble their capital, unlike in gambling winning or jackpot mostly depend on luck only.
Yeah, both are risky gambler and investing, but a lot of people choosing investing is maybe because they know how it works, they know when to buy and sell stocks, investing is best way to earn profit in a long run if you have enough knowledge and if you have enough capital to invest for it. Gambling is use for entertainment, sometimes we gain profit sometimes were not. But we also needs to the difference of the two.
2132  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: can gambling give you lessons in life? on: October 01, 2017, 01:56:13 PM
there are no lesson in gambling only the luck.

Maybe if you have so much luck and you're always a winner and never experience losing in gambling, I believed that gambling really don't have a lesson for you and it's only a luck. You will not learn anything unless you experience it. It's good to hear that you're very lucky. But for me, I'd rather experienced losing so that I can learn many things in life and make me more stronger.

As far as i know you'll learn a lot more when you get to experience setbacks and losses. No one wins all the time in gambling and you won't learn anything that way. You learn lessons when you experience challenges. That's what will make you wiser the next time around.
I agree with you, we learn lessons when we experience challenges. In gambling we always have a challenge when we play, every time we play is a challenge, we don't know if we were going to win or not. Taking risk is also a big challenge to us especially when we big high amount. Learning from our mistakes is also a good thing to learn for us to be more careful when we play gambling and as what you've said it will also make us wiser the next time around.  Grin
2133  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: October 01, 2017, 01:50:33 PM
Gambling and pofit in the same sentence is something you dont here everyday but certain games allow you to make some money like poker, but when its you against the house that should be for fun because it never ends well as the house always wins.
Where did you get the information that the house always win? If that is the case, there shouldn't be a single player playing dice or roulette or the like because they will just end up losing every time they play it.
I guess he was just saying that the house always get profit by the end of the day even there are gamblers out there wins there are some that loses which the house gets their bet. But I agree that not all the time house always win. Some casinos get bankrupt and not all the time they are always winner by the end of the day, maybe because they don't have enough knowledge to operate that kind of business or maybe they don't have enough experience on how they will handle the house to have a successful business. We all don't know the history of every house, we just playing because we are just an ordinary gambler. We lose and sometimes win. But one thing is for sure, for me, we cannot make gambling as a profitable activity.
2134  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where do you see bitcoin 5 years from now? on: October 01, 2017, 12:41:27 PM
What are your thoughts guys or is it worth to hold Btc for 5 years.
I think it is worth to hold btc for 5years, as you can see, bitcoin price now is rising thinking how much the bitcoin price way back 2009. So, I think bitcoin is worth to wait and hold for a long time for us to gain profit, it also like you invested a money and it gain a profit in a long term. But of course you have your own thinking and knowledge and you are he one who will decide to yourself whether you wait for that long or you sell it already.
2135  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC rise to 4300 $ on: October 01, 2017, 12:36:19 PM
BTC BTC rise  to 4300, What do you say about this spike ?
That's the price of bitcoin before it drops, I think bitcoin also rise until $4600 if I am not mistaken, so I guess bitcoin will reach again that price and I also think that by the end of the year it will reach about $5000 (Hoping). I am really hoping that bitcoin will reach that but of course we also  wait with our own risk, it is depend on us if we wanted to wait or if we want to sell it now.  Grin
2136  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the future of gambling on: October 01, 2017, 10:25:27 AM
more gambling sites with new models but just the same we will lose. never believe that gambling can make us rich. although there are new features in gambling
That's true, I also don't believe gambling can make us rich.  We don' have any assurance in gambling because it is base on luck and we don't know when our luck come to us. Be careful when you are playing gambling because it is too risky.
2137  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Being Unemployed Drives People to go to Bitcoin on: October 01, 2017, 10:20:49 AM
Weeks ago, I am discussing Bitcoin to my sister and my future brother-in-law (then) When they got married recently, both of them were unemployed and have been trying to get a job immediately after their marriage. Up until now they have no luck. My sister then decided to talk to me about how do I earn Bitcoins. I gladly explained it to her and then she decided to do it too. She was so happy that she is already earning bitcoin and had some extra budget while they are both unemployed. And now, she is so eager to learn more how to earn more coins.

Being unemployed drove her into engaging to Bitcoins. Maybe some people are like this. They grab Bitcoin when they are in need of money. And since that these people are now engaged in Bitcoin, I am sure that they will stay in Bitcoin and treat it as an investment even though they will have a decent paying jobs in the future.
That is also good she has a determination to earn bitcoin while she has unemployed, it is a big help for them just like me. I am now unemployed because I need to focus on my son. So I decided to stay at home with my son because of his condition, good thing that I knew bitcoin so I can earn even I am unemployed.
2138  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN = 5000$ THIS 2017? on: October 01, 2017, 10:11:42 AM
I hope bitcoin reach $5000 by the end of the year. If that's happen maybe I can also gain profit so it can also reach my bitcoin the amouny that I wanted. I want that to happen but they say by November there is another Hard Fork that maybe bitcoin will split but I am still hoping that bitcoin will still rise after it drops.
2139  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I stll don't know what to do with my Bitcoins... on: October 01, 2017, 08:12:26 AM
Besides keeping it to raise in value later. There is not much I can do...

With fiat money, I can pay rent, go to restaurants, buy clothes. But with BTC, there is basically no stores that accept them in my country. Sure it's easier online, but then again the stores might not have the best products or is the cheapest/best value.

Am I the only one facing this issue?
You are right, we can use fiat everywhere, but you can use bitcoin and convert it into fiat for you to use your bitcoin anywhere, but of course it will takes time for us to convert and wait for the confirmation. But I think it is also just fine for me. I am also not using bitcoin to pay rent, go to restaurants or buy clothes. First, I will convert it and then after that, I can use it anywhere I wanted. That's how bitcoin can be.
2140  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin is not gambling on: October 01, 2017, 08:04:27 AM
I don't know why people say bitcoin is gambling. Its not gambling. You are investing your money and time. You use your internet. So its not gambling dealing with it.
Bitcoin is a crypto-currency it is not a type of gambling, we can just use bitcoin to bet in online gambling games but bitcoin itself is not a gambling, I don't know where do you get that bitcoin is gambling. We use bitcoin to bet, to trade to invest. So we earn it and work hard for it for us to have bitcoin.
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