The coin is getting simpler and simpler to understand.
The coin is getting more decentralized.
POG is 100% decentralized and requires no web pools.
The devs are straightening things out (in response to challenges).
POG is easy to understand and simple enough for a baby to understand, and simplifies our infrastructure.
We're not saying a whale wont make more than a small user, but what we are saying that is novel is this:  A botnet is not going to exploit POG, that is the main consideration.  If your a big time investor then you will get more rewards with POG, yes.  The main feature that POG solves what Vertcoin experienced (being overrun by botnet exploits).

Sometimes the complaints that surface on this thread are from people who made assumptions.

The thing to realize is we need simplicity first in order to write good documents (not the other way around).

We wouldn't have spent so many hard hours on PODC if we knew we were retiring it.  It felt like the way to go when we were creating it, but maybe its better that Gridcoin takes this part of the market. 

No sense in bashing each other over this - lets all calm down and try to get along.

The bottom line is, let's face it, we had an original vision that any old PC could mine BiblePay right on the CPU with the original POBH algorithm.  The only thing that stopped us was the botnets copied our software out to hundreds of PCs and we didn't like our standard users getting hurt like that.  With POG, we go back to that original vision.  So please dont be upset, just switch to POG.  The idea is thousands of commodity PCs and users can participate without any mining knowledge, its great!

Its not the last try- PODC is being removed because its attracting scientists instead of Christians, and is hard to set up, and yes, we could solve that if we wanted to (but if you read my prior sentence - its going away because of what Im writing here, not what you believe).

We are decentralized - Im a small part of the Sanctuary vote now - and nothing is being done unilaterally - you will see the Prod vote in the pool any day now - so quit spreading FUD, your wrong about that too.  People who are part of BiblePay know that we are fully democratic- they saw my percentage shrink each month.  Its a free market, no one person is a supermajority here.  

Yes, I saw how you wrote to our children, bullying them and demanding they write you back sooner.  LOL, thats a good way to talk to a child.

Anyway, I have the perseverance we need to make this successful, because God is behind me.  We're not failing even if POG fails in your eyes.  We will keep getting up and fighting.  For Pog3, pog4, and pog5.

Thanks for your very weak support and your warped view that things don't work, but you know the pool uptime has been 99%, and pool payments are 99%+ accurate, and the standard orphan writing works (why do we send over 30 letters per month on average) does any other coin allow you to see scanned orphan letters inbound? NO, your warped mind can't imagine how successful we will be, but sit back in your new community and watch us rocket up the ranks.

I might be delayed or wrong by one year about where we should be now, but even if its Christmas of 2020 we are eventually going to achieve it, and I will be right even if Im a year or two late!

Regardless, I challenge any of you who steal electricity from your employers to mine BiblePay, start your own crypto and see if you can get as far we did.

Thank you Dave.

POG is very, very close to being ready for the mandatory - I'll update in more detail today.

@SunK, please do not make posts here that violate the rules in the OP post.  You have posted with swear words and directly attacked me in an unwarranted way - that breaks more than one of the rules.  (Otherwise I will start the ban process with the bitcointalk mods) - you are now considered a Troll - along with SVK Noko.

SVK you have not broken the rules but I warn you that this forum is provided to help others, so please take that into consideration on your future posts.

Were not here for infighting - we are here to help others.

This project is not on a low level in comparison with others btw - you appear to be unable to understand the value in the roadmap.  The roadmap is on par with a top 9 coin.  Once we have IPFS Christian videos, community voting, the Subway gift card integration, BiblePay Evolution, RSA collaboration, POG and the first integrated pool, in-wallet chat, a Christian Economy microstructure we are talking Top 9 coin - ahead of the other 1990 communities.  I think you are sadly mistaken.  This is on top of the deflationary orphan environment which is our cornerstone.  Wake Up.  There is no reason any of this that I said above will fail.  All these things look bright and are technically possible (we're already testing the simplified versions of each feature now in alpha).

Thank you for the constructive criticism.  This is a much nicer way to convey the message, and will result in a positive improvement for BiblePay.

May I ask you to do a favor for us, could you please create an issue here:
https://github.com/biblepay/BiblePayPool/issues

And paste the contents in, but let please clarify some parts of the request.

Our data driven menu *does* have the capability to redirect the user to the correct page if no submenu exists- please paste an example in your issue request of one that you would like to see to become a single redirect (with no submenu).

Next, paste an example of any page we have with an SSL error (I'm not aware of this problem).

As far as the 'slow response time' also, just please paste in one specific example of a slow response time after you click on X- what I like to do when I work a ticket is see this:

Clicking X from section name Y in Page U in HTTPS mode of Site Z response slowly (5 seconds to respond); why would this be slow...  Then we have something solid to work.

Thanks a lot.

Good one, I think I will put this on the wall.

Its easy to see that the naysayers break every one.  I can think of a way to put in criticism with my hands tied behind my back that wouldnt insult someone.  Its obvious the derelicts are doing this on purpose to get under our skin.  I'm not rewarding the "troll" any longer for bad behavior.  Time to swim, trolls.

Purely out of curiosity - if you have left and continue to bash the pools design (and on a side note I dont give your critique any credibility btw, as you constantly use dirty words and your approach is vulgar), but why are you sticking around?  Just to bash us and lower our spirits?  Obviously you and Sun are doing the same thing - its not to help the community but to hurt the community - which hurts our investors and our orphans in the long run.  I give Slovakia a lot more credibility, because he comes across as a crude character - he has not learned to be a refined person yet, thats fine, we can work with him.

Why would we (the devs) take your criticism or Suns seriously after this type of comment?

Please, I want to clarify to everyone else as the Snat asked me to do this a month ago - I want to let everyone else know I do individually love you and have the capacity for loving you.  I want you to know these individual criticisms are in Defense for their bad choice of attacking a Christian altruistic movement.  So everyone else, please do not take this personally and please continue to send us your bonafide constructive criticisms- things that we really need to do.  And please start volunteering for work, devs.   We need opensource blockchain developers to volunteer to help make this community better.

Togo, I will provide an update on the status of Testnet within 24 hours, I am trying to gather one piece of info we need first.

Sun, why don't you go ahead and write a new pool, and see if you can address all of the issues from yourself, then all of our problems will be solved!

In the mean time, I am blocking you so I can focus on administration.

Thanks - on the first day I had it not deployed as a service yet since I didnt realize it wasnt fully live, but now its a service.

Can you please try again when you get a chance and you should see the deposits in what you would expect to be real time (IE wait a block then look, then wait the remaining 3 blocks and look for your balance).

There is not a misconception about paying miners incorrectly - as was shown when I released the pool poll that users in general trust what we have created.

I think Dave_BBP can explain the payout to you.

If you were truly part of our community you would be the one supporting us.  This is your job, and this is partially why your perception is negative - because you are not doing your job.

When you say: Pool site stuck in the 90s with frames, which pool are you referring to?  And if it's pool.biblepay, what would make you say "work and be ugly"- as compared to what, another one of our pools not working, or...  I really don't understand even the spirit of the post - its alluding to something like our pool hasn't worked before.  It hasn't worked for you once in 2018 and your conclusion is it didnt work?  But in reality it has always worked and has always been resolved.  Have we ever cheated one bbp from anyone?  No, we havent.  

I disagree with the mean-spirited nature of most of your posts, and the content, and the conclusions, and the meaning, and the answers.

If you are truly trying to become more Christian, wouldn't you want to spread love instead of hate?


EDIT:  Are you referring to our twitter Iframe?  If so do you know the Iframe is still an important part of html5 programming?  Without it webdevs have to resort to hacks?  Do you know we use insitu ajax async callbacks on every page of the pool and support an integrated c# application (in contrast to redirect posts of the 90s), a technology was not available until after 2010?  Meaning its the most *modern* technology.  It is running is VSS2017 as well.  (Meaning you are sorely wrong).

Recently I started working on a side project with a goal in mind to allow BiblePay to be spendable as a Utility.  I started working with Walmart to see if they will allow us to integrate their API so Pool users can buy certain things (like $20 gift cards) with free shipping.  I'm also attempting to work with another third party API that allows us to buy Subway (Sandwich Shop) gift cards with no delivery fees and no markups.  Whoever comes through first should technically allow us to create a pilot program in the pool for this project.

In part of this project we needed to allow users to make a BBP deposit (into the pool).  Therefore I have exposed the Deposit menu button.

Please, realize this is in Alpha, so don't send a lot, maybe keep it below 100 bbp for now until we know we have a 100% successful alpha test.

Could we please have 10 or so users make some deposits to the pool over the next 24 hours, and just keep track of the process and verify your balance has increased correctly and none are lost?

Just click Account | Deposit to test this feature.

Thanks!

EDIT:  Once there is more than 1 confirm, you should be able to go back to the Deposit page and see the Pending deposit amount.

Since we have biblepaycore letter writing going in testnet now, I disabled the adoption systems e-mail warning.

This will be deployed today. 

Let me check into this...

We could use a few letters to be written this month, please (last month we sent a ton, this month we have a sparse participation level).

Also please see the letters coming in from Cameroon, they still write on large tablets out there- I think its awesome.

Btw, I read what you mentioned about the flow (where we should throw the error at the point of withdraw, not later when they click verify e-mail) and I agree, we will fix that tonight.


On the limits, let me see what I can do.  Maybe I will make an exception for people we trust, and approve people like you and Slovakia with a higher limit.


Let me take a look at it.

Looking at the logs, auto withdrawals have been working on pool.biblepay.org and they went out today, and most people are using them.

Dave, you might have to populate your receive address and click Enable Auto Withdrawals.  They go out every morning at 9AM CST.