I'd think Mintpal voting should be a priority and/or Cryptsy. Coinpayments + moolah should also be gone after too.

Poloniex is fine, but extra legroom is always nice. Relying on one exchange only is never that great. Big XBC whales should look at MP as an investment, as I don't think poloniex will have the volume by itself to support too many xbc whales trying to swim about. I guess asking the original dev to use some of the ipo money for MP voting is out of the question, right?

Is the coin even on any smaller exchanges? To the best of my knowledge, I thought Bittrex was it. I do think bittrex uses other factors besides just volume, including age of the coin, in regard to delisting. But in Quebecoin's case, those other factors, like a missing dev, probably won't work in its favor.

I believe it's fine if the giveaway is external. The problem arises if the giveaway requires people to post in a thread, as then it results in a ton of spam. I have no idea why people are posting 'signature added' or whatever they are doing, as the giveaway is external and should be coded to grab the address automatically.

I assumed the price would go down after the masternode date regardless if it worked or not. That's how things have occurred with Drk so far... rc1, rc2 and so on. If I remember correctly, we usually saw about a 30-40% dropoff as soon as each milestone was released. Prices went up on rumors/news, then down on actual occurrence, as quite often happens in cryptoland.

So I'm not sure why anyone would be surprised with the dropoff. The question is if the fork + million trolls will drop it even further. Temporarily I can see it doing so, but longterm not sure if it will matter.

Yeah, I hate to say it, but it does look like a scam. I said people need to be patient, but it's at the point where the dev needs to show something... now... or all that takeover talk is warranted, in my opinion. Even if the dev has somehow been working fulltime on an android wallet + multipool, I'm sure he could simply post here once in a while. Either it's a scam or the dev has a different sense of time than the rest of the world does.

This isn't working out like I thought it would, was hoping to get some cheap Drk. Price is rising...

There's such a thing as being too negative. Even if the dev gives up, a new dev team could take over the coin. And it doesn't make any sense for you to dump, when you can just trickle sales orders at a higher price. Unless you are sitting on an inordinately large number of coins, that is.

Yeah, it's just the way our brain's are wired, I guess. I know I sometimes have thought a bit too grandiosely about a certain coin... or felt a coin was worthless, when it really wasn't... then I sort of have to shake myself out of it.

Someone here in a different thread (forget which one) commented that buying low/selling high is the complete opposite of how our brain's work. We sort of need to train them to think differently. Quite often I've found myself wanting to buy in during a pump... or panic sell... then think to myself, okay, forget that, just do the complete opposite. Usually it works out better that way.

The fact 'honest' is in quotes is probably very appropriate.  When I see someone in full blown hype mode, I wonder if they are purposely scamming, or simply going with the crowd, hoping to boost their coin's value. And then I wonder what percentage of people actually believe their own hype. There probably is a decent percentage of people who realize they are in a scam, or let's say pump and dump coin, feel a bit trapped knowing it's too late to get out, so go into hype mode, hoping to boost the coin enough to profit.

There are plenty of threads here where a dev may be doing something a bit fishy, yet people will jump in defending him. Of course in a forum like this with little moderation, for all we know the dev is defending himself.

But back to patterns, I never thought people would believe hype so much. Or completely ridiculous statements. I know some ignore it, but it does certainly seem to influence price.

What occurred with bitcoin is primarily why I used the term amnesia. but perhaps it's not the best term. I wasn't even about here when btc was going up and down, but people seem to forget that it too was pumped and dumped... a lot. Yet when they see an alt coin do the same, they go into insane panic mode.

In a lot of cases the coins will dump down incredible amounts, so they are right to be concerned. But if it's purely a junkcoin, it must have been expected beforehand. Unless people overly believe hype, which is much more prevalent than I expected.

I guess penny stock guys would have better answers than anything I can guess at. It could just be human nature, hence why the repeating patterns are profitable for some... and not so profitable for others.

As I stated, this isn't a pro or con Darkcoin thread. I almost wish I self-moderated a thread that I never thought would need moderating.

Yeah, I probably should have used a different phrase than 'trolling', although there are plenty of that too. And yep, information, even negative information, can be very helpful.

But I was referring more so to negative statements without any shred of proof. Or in some cases, statements that don't make any logical sense.

ie. Such and such a coin has a virus, here is a screenshot from my virus checker -- good info.

<whatever coin> is going down... the dev made 20 other altcoins and is in some 3rd world country... it has a 95% premine, get out and put your money into <someothercoin> instead while you can! -- bad info.

That partially could explain it in a way, yet at the same time, people spreading false information does seem to be more prevalent than actual risk. It could mean people are extra 'twitchy', for lack of a better word, ready to jump at the slightest sign of doubt.

I was just looking over some random threads... and checked the Drk thread just now, because people seemed so fond of mentioning it here. One guy commented on how he stated that Monero had a 90% premine in the trollbox, resulting in a pretty major dip in price right afterwards. Of course he had no facts to actually back up his case. There are plenty of threads on other coins here claiming such and such a coin had a premine or instamine, without providing any real proof. I guess people may be too sensitive to any information at all, due to the inherent risks with crypto to begin with. It could explain some of the sheep mentality.

I'm not sure it explains why people believe hype so much, but I guess human greed could explain that.

I agree. Again, I was talking about patterns, not necessarily the coins or whatever perceived worth they have. Most coins are simply used for pump and dump schemes. The part I don't understand is why people follow the same pattern, believe hype, or believe trolling -- okay, trolling may be too harsh a word in many cases, let's say spreading negative or false information.

I'm not sure if reading comprehension difficulties should be added to amnesia. Again, I wasn't referring to specifically darkcoin or any coin. And I did say junk coins that pump, and go back down, should be expected... I used taxi coin as a reference, but almost all nation coins apply, as well. The airdrop concept has some serious flaws.

Again, I was wondering why repeating patterns seem to work as well as they do. And why does anyone believe trolls in the first place.

Instead, it appears people are using this thread to.... well, do what they usually do here.

I should have prefaced this by saying I am referring to all coins, no coin in particular. It was more brought on by simply watching the polo trollbox for a week, rather than anything happening to Drk. Although many of the Drk comments people have been spreading do apply. I got my reasonable amount of Drk when it was 10x cheaper than it is now, so no, not angry about anything. If anything, I've wanted it to go cheaper, as I never got as many coins as I originally hoped for. Price corrections should be expected for all coins.

Again, I was mostly just curious about the repeating patterns. No specific coin.

There is something I've wondered about.

No coin ever goes in a straight line up, forever. BTC didn't do it. Stocks don't do it. No investment does. Yet when a coin gets pumped, hits its apex, then tumbles down to a new floor, people go all into panic mode. The sky is falling, get out now, etc.

What I wonder about is, why do people repeatedly seem to behave in the same way? Sure, on a pure pump and dump junkcoin, it may tumble to nothing again, but people should have realized that would occur way before the pump. If, let's say Taxicoin, all of a sudden zoomed up to .01 for no good reason, no sane person would think it would remain there forever. I simply don't get why people go into panic mode on coins they previously believed to have good fundamentals, when it just moves down to its new floor? Human nature, I guess? Or selective amnesia?

Then there are troll types, who seem to behave in mostly the same pattern. There are always regular trolls who simply take joy from being jerks. And those who sold off, and don't want to see the coin zoom up while they are on the sidelines. But typically it looks like a pattern where trolls come out after a pump, spread fud, watch coin go down... then logically they'd scoop up the cheap coins at around half of what the pump level was... meaning 2x the coins, or profit + same coins they started with. We also have trolls/fud spreaders whose basic purpose seems to be to try to get people to invest in <whatever coin they are holding> by spreading fud against coins they deem a competitor.

What I don't quite understand in regard to this is just why does anyone believe trolls/fud spreaders? I mean, nobody should assume anyone saying anything, fud or hype, is doing so for altruistic reasons. If someone says, 'Get out of <coin> now, buy <new fancy coin> instead!' they must realize they have an ulterior motive for doing so.

I guess I am just confused by the repeating patterns and why they still work. Or maybe I have been watching the polo trollbox too much. I sometimes think they should put a little Pinocchio image next to the box, to better illustrate how valuable the info provided there is.

Thanks! And keeping the local wallet off-line is something I'd definitely feel more comfortable about. I hope he adds that back. The remote wallet thing is probably what I may do, but I assume that means that wallet needs to be on/connected all the time linked to the server? I guess that is where a raspberry pi type of thing could work, assuming there are even linux wallets that work on it?

And I definitely will need to write down any complex passwords. It once took me like an hour just to figure out some nxt clone password phrase I entered one time.... going through tons of combinations. I tend to forget which password goes with which coin.

Thanks, I guess that is the 'go to' guide people have been using, as that is the same link that another person just said to me earlier too.

Is using a freebie amazon VPS the way most are going?

My concern is sending my Drk to the masternode wallet. I just have a fear it'll get lost or stolen or something. I am also curious if we could set up something without using a VPS, such as on a mini-pc and just leave it running (pi/beagleboard, etc). I don't have as much Drk as some people here, just enough for one node. But it'd be rather painful to lose it. By the way, what sort of payouts have people been seeing per node?

Thanks, looks a bit confusing, but I'll see if I can figure it out.

This is a very newbie question, but how secure is using EC2 in regard to keeping your coins safe? I mean, there were comments by some that people could try to hack at the nodes and take the coins. Is that possible?

And also newbie-ish, instead of using EC2 or any VPS service, could we just set up our own server and run it on that? Would something like this work on a low power raspberry pi/beagleboard type of system?