It looks like it might be much worse than that.

 Where is Developer Vorshalk getting the money to deploy his GIGANTIC FARM THAT IS KILLING PROFITABILITY OF CURECOIN (AND FOLDINGCOIN) FOR EVERYONE ELSE?

 His actions reguarding this are an INSULT to everyone else that participates in both CureCoin and in FoldingCoin, and has actively ticked folders off to the point that people refuse to participate in Folding@Home any more (and I'm in process of turning into ONE of those, I'm TIRED of this shit and TRYING to compete with a DEVELOPER WITH ENDLESS MONEY).

And 4 years later you have decided to deploy some ginormous farm that is DESTROYING the profitability of not only CureCoin but FOldingcoin.

 How many of the "10% reserved for developers" coin are FUNDING this farm?

 Why are you so clueless as to not realise how many OTHER FOLDERS YOU ARE PISSING OFF WITH YOUR ACTIONS?

 Developers should be working to improve the coin and it's value, NOT ACTIVELY DESTROYING IT FOR ALL OTHER PARTICIPANTS.

Developer Vorshalk deciding to destroy the profitability of the coin by putting up a HUGE folding farm.

 I have to wonder how many of the "Development Team" reserved Curecoin are being used by him to FUND his profit-destroying gigantic farm.

 At BEST, this is an insult to everyone trying to use Curecoin (AND FOLDINGCOIN) to fund THEIR Folding@Home expansion.

The return on the L3+ is probably going to be higher since Scrypt has a TON MORE HASHRATE ALREADY (as measured in L3+ units) than X11 does (as measured in D3 units) and therefore any L3+ is going to have a lot less effect on profitability.

 I anticipate that the return on an L3+ by the time the last batch ships in November will be quite a bit higher than the last batch of D3 (which was released at the SAME TIME and has not yet sold out) will be by that point.


 Based on the best estimates I've seen of D3 sales, the number of D3 units sold already are ON THEIR OWN going to multiply X11 hashrate by a factor of over 10 times what is was before they started selling - the L3+ has been selling for several months and some batches have already BEEN delivered and are in use, so that the current "sold but not yet delivered" batches aren't even going to DOUBLE Scrypt hashrate in that timeframe.


 Then there are the gorillas in the room - the L3+ is the most efficient scrypt miner right now, and even the best of the "new announcements" is going to only BARELY be more efficient.

 The D3 is not even the most efficient CURRENTLY SHIPPING unit, and if the A5 meets it's published specs the D3 is going to end up as the *4th most efficient" unit - and it's not even CLOSE to the 2 most efficient announced units.

 Sounds like a laptop - you're not going to do much better if so and you're likely to FRY the thing from overheating over time.

 If that's a DESKTOP using a "mobile" Nvidia chipset card for some reason, upgrade the card will make a big difference.

If you are using a gigabit switch, cat 5e or cat 6 because such switches often flake out with non-gigabit-rated cables.

 If you are using a 100MB switch, cat 5 or better (but I'd go 5e or 6 to cover future upgrades anyway).

 Germanium, like Silicon, is a semiconductor material.
 Germanium was actually more common than Silicon in the early days of semiconductor manufacturing, but it turned out Silicon had a higher tolerance for heat AND was less expensive to make wafers for (silicon is literally dirt-cheap - a large proportion of "dirt" is Silicon, along with Aluminum and Iron).

 Germanium has the advantage of a lower "band gap" than Silicon, which makes it easier to push electrons around in the material - this might buy 1 or 2 more generations of semiconductor manufacturing before MAJOR structural changes have to happen due to the increasing issues with Quantum-level effects on small node sizes, but I'd not bet on Germanium going past about 5 nm without running into the SAME issues Silicon is hitting at 10 - and the relatively poor heat capacity is going to cause it's OWN issues.


 Moore's Law isn't dead yet - but it's been limping a bit for the past decade, and it's definitely not looking good past the NEXT decade.

 Enjoy it while it lasts - a month from now X11 profitability will have crashed hard as LOTS more D3 (and other folks) miners get shipped up and running....

 Not saying there won't be ANY profit by the end of October - just that it's going to collapse to ballpark S9 numbers and after another month probably worse.

 Well under 5 cents / kwh all-up.

 There's a REASON I spent most of a month last summer moving from Iowa to "The Land Of Very Very Cheap Electric" in Central Washington.

 And yes, the Aorus are bloody huge 3-slot cards - been a while since folks MADE cards that huge (I have a HIS IceQ blower model HD 7870 that is ALSO 3-slot, but only the BLOWER area is that wide).

 They're no worse than some of the other cards out there - at least one Zotac model and at least one MSI model are JUST as huge.

 They have awesome cooling though for air-cooled.

 Tell that to the folks running Threadripper or Epyc CPUs.

 9-)


 The huge hashrates you see out of some Xeon based machines are usually multi-CPU and need to be divided by the number of CPUs - then factor in that any Xeon that manages more hashrate than the AMD Ryzen 1800x is a MUCH MORE EXPEN$IVE CPU that on a cost-basis comparison should be getting compared to the Threadripper line or the Epyc.


 On the other hand, some older used E5 Xeon based machines can be had pretty cheap for the hashrate - just watch the power consumption....

 One thing to keep in mind - some cards have a FACTORY memory overclock.

 I've seen Factory memory clocks on 1080ti models anywhere from 10000 (effective) to a hair over 11000 (effective), which would be actual "base" clocks from 2500 to 2750.

 A card that STARTS at 2750 isn't going to do +500 as easily as a card that starts at 2500....


 EWBF in my opinion is overall the best ZCash miner, but Claymore is very close - I prefer the "configurable" fee option, as I think Claymore's 2% is an excessive ripoff especially now that his miner is NOT the undisputed hashrate leader.

 I'm not worried about staking daily - but having to keep ANY coin around rather than being able to use it to pay electric bills or fund expansion is VERY irritating - and having to keep weeks or months worth of coin on hand to even manage to stake once in a WEEK is excessive.

 That's speaking as one of the biggest Gridcoin earners in existence (Like I said, I'm Top 15 on magnitude) - folks that only pull in a couple coins a day ARE going to need years worth of income to stake more often than the "6 month cutoff" which is a TOTAL WASTE for them.


 The point is that the whole "have to keep tons of GRC around just to be ABLE to get paid for your RESEARCH WORK" is total violation of the whole basic concept that Gridcoin is supposed to be SUPPORTING THE RESEARCHERS.

 Standard gable-type fans just under the roof should work - and less worries about leakage.

 Personally I dislike dogs, but a few "territorial except for family" Maine Coons I could deal with.

 8-)

 Any coin that "regularly changed it's algo" would be cutting it's OWN throat - users are NOT going to tolerate the disruption of having their coins become UNAVAILABLE on a regular basis due to algo-forced wallet changes and NO MINER HASHRATE TO CONFIRM TRANSACTIONS during these changeovers.

 The problem is that folks KNOW about those, and bounce miners around to chase the profits, which tends to level them out pretty closely.

 Also, there is no such thing as a USB based miner for ZCash (it's GPU mined), and the only ones for DASH are going to be completely unprofitable by the end of October due to HUGE SHIPMENTS of the Bitmain Antminer D3 and smaller shipments of the other "current generation" X11 miner models by that point.


 I was not aware the Avalons used USB - though they had their own propriatary setup to a Pi or something similar to a Pi?
 If they CAN be used on a standard computer with a USB port, then they are an exception to my statement as the Avalon 7 is pretty efficient even by current standards.

 1 TerraHash = 1000 Gigahash = 1 MILLION Megahash.
 It's standard numerical notation.

 As I recall the Gekkoscience will outmine or nearly outmine  that Butterfly Labs model - while using a TON less power.
 You might want to look into Sidehack's "Terminus" model though, it should be in production VERY shortly and will beat his stick-type Gekkoscience model by a good bit.


 The Avalon 7 is under $1000, but not by a lot.
 You aren't going to find ANY current generation ASIC-based miner for $200 (the Terminus MIGHT get close, but it's generation-old ASIC chips).

I have a wide range of NVidia cards out of the 1070, 1080, and a pair of 1080ti range.

 385.41 has yet to stay running more than perhaps 5 minutes while mining on ANY of the ones I've tested on.

 I usually prefer to use 373.06, but have to use something more recent on the 1080 ti cards (378.something is my norm there), but just built up a new "gaming machine" with one of the 1080 ti cards and for GAMING it's better to stay more current - when possible.

 Since when is a month or so "abandoned long ago"?

 Why do people ASSUME that "continuous improvement in mining a specific algorithm" is POSSIBLE?

 Why were you ASSUMING June?

 There are quite a few of us that were mining ZEC (for example) LATE LAST YEAR when it first showed up.

 I missed out on the first day, but I STILL made a killing the first week or so before the price collapsed far enough to put ZEC in "the bucket".