Yes, it's nice to see NeuroticFish, a big contributor to Bitcointalk, being very positive about our campaign and supporting it.
After all, we can say your translation of our topic into Romanian is already a huge success. 

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While that part sounded indeed very pessimistic, my overall impression of our achievements is very positive. A few misguided spammers and shitpost apologists can't hide the fact, that our campaign is indeed an important step into a good direction to encourage a better posting style and better writing skills. And so far, our support is 100% in the Romanian board. 


You are right, as long as weekly rewards of valuable BTC for producing low-quality spam are coming in for them, widespread improvements for a better posting quality are highly unlikely. 

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It is very nice to hear such positive news, dear GazeatBitcoin! 
Amazing how our campaign has achieved such a lucky outcome where PrivacyG (IntimitateG) has now contributed to your local board.
Of course, it's very nice to see PrivacyG advocating for our cause which means a lot because PrivacyG is also a member frequently contributing quality posts on Bitcointalk's international section.
It's no coincidence to see that most established quality posters are highly supportive of our campaign. 

Yaay, nice to hear. 


Good point, I didn't follow the event last year very closely as I have been a bit more busy last year, so I didn't remember all the details but nice to know prices are distributed to more members for our new round, which is a very positiv adjustment in my opinion.


Exactly, receiving such a physical product and still maintaining privacy is a big issue, so maybe we will see some free bets on Betnomi's site as icopress has suggested that there will be more random prizes this year.

Top, guter Vorschlag, citb0in passt ebenfalls gut für diese Kategorie.
Da ich in dieser Kategorie ebenfalls noch Stimmen übrig hatte, habe ich citb0in noch nominiert und deine Beschreibung im internationalen Forumsteil verlinkt. 

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Ja, voriges Jahr hat es laut icopress auch nur für die ersten Plätze je Kategorie einen Preis gegeben, dieses Jahr bekommen die ersten 3 Plätze pro Kategorie einen Preis.
Das hatte ich damals nicht genau verfolgt und damit ist es dieses Jahr schon breiter insgesamt.

Oh heul, bedarf es tatsächlich eines Strohmanns, weil es sonst keine Argumente gibt? Wenn man sich so ansieht, was auf Twitter für Hetze, Falschaussagen oder Schwurbler-Propaganda abgeladen wird, sei es von Rechtsextremisten, Klima- oder Coronaleugnern, von Putler-Apologeten, Esoterikern, Homöopathen oder sonstiger Müll, muss man sich echt fragen, ob da überhaupt irgendwas gelöscht wird, was signifikanter als 1 Promille aller fraglichen Vergehen wäre.
Vielleicht liegt es auch daran, dass Schwurbler sich nur zu gerne in der Opferrolle suhlen, weil es sonst schwierig werden würde, inhaltlich zu punkten.
Im Märchenerzählen, egal um welches Thema es geht, sind die Schwurbler bekanntlich sehr begabt, dass selbst die Gebrüder Grimm neidisch werden würden. Und so wundert es nicht, dass auch das angebliche Märchen von der "Zensur auf Twitter" ins Märchen-Arsenal der Schwurbler aufgenommen wurde...
Wenn dann ein Böhmermann den Schwurblern den Spiegel vorhält, heulen die Schwurbler natürlich rum - und machen das, was sie am besten können - sich in der Opferrolle suhlen.


Was mit an Sicherheit grenzender Wahrscheinlichkeit ein klassisches Strohfeuer ist: durch das aktuelle Drama gibt es zahlreiche Schaulustige, die dem Spektakel beiwohnen und kommentieren wollen. Wenn die Aufmerksamkeit jedoch wieder zurück geht, werden diese Nutzer dort nicht mehr aktiv sein und viele weitere werden Twitter dann ebenfalls dauerhaft meiden.


Dieses "Opferrollen-Argument" wurde bereits widerlegt, denn wenn man bei Twitter so schaut, hat die Aktivität der Trolle mit ihren immer gleichen Lügen, Hetzen und Schwurbelmüll im letzen Sommer, besonders nach dem Start des russischen Angriffskrieges gegen die Ukraine durch Putler, ein neues Allzeithoch erreicht.
Okay, mehr Lügen, Hetze und Schwurbelmüll gibt es vermutlich nur noch auf Telegram.  


Meinst du das ernst?
Weil das ist einfach alles komplett falsch.  
Wo wollen wir anfangen?

Durch den Bullshit, den Elon Musk verzapft, wenden sich massiv Unternehmen von Twitter ab und wollen dort keine Werbung mehr schalten. Das sind nicht nur ein paar kleine Unternehmen, nein, das sind mittlerweile mehr als 50% der auf Twitter zahlungsstärkten Unternehmen.
Mehr als 50% der auf Twitter zahlungsstärkten Unternehmen bis jetzt!
Damit brechen dem eh schon klammen Twitter massive Einnahmen weg, die aber absolut überlebenswichtig wären.  

Weiterhin kommen durch die Mitarbeiterentlassungen wichtige Funktionen zum erliegen, die aber lebenswichtig für den Betrieb und die weitere Finanzierung von Twitter wären. Musk hat bisher mehr als 50% aller Mitarbeiter gefeuert oder die Mitarbeiter haben schnell selbst das Weite gesucht, weil sie es nicht einsehen, täglich bis zu 14 Stunden zu arbeiten, nut weil Musk komplett größenwahnsinning herumspinnt.

Und letztlich ist das zahlungsbasierte Verifizierungssystem mit 8$ pro verifizierter Account nicht ansatzweise genug, um die finanziellen Mittel zusammen zu bekommen, die Twitter bräuchte.
Abgesehen davon, dass dieses Verifizierungssystem, so wie Musk es vorgesehen hatte, nicht funktioniert...

Hast du dir das Video überhaupt angesehen? Ab Minute 9:00 ist der ganze Quatsch sehr gut zusammengefasst, den Musk bisher so verzapft hat.

Selbst Elon Musk bangt darum, dass Twitter in den Bankrott schlittern könnte: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/10/exodus-twitter-elon-musk-possible-bankruptcy


Nö, siehe Video und die überall verfügbaren Infos.
Denn Tatsache ist: Twitter brennt lichterloh dank den hirnverbrannten Ideen von Elon Musk. Und das nicht einmal nach einem vollen Monat Elon Musk.

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Fazit: es könnte klarer kaum sein, dass Elon Musk Twitter gerade richtig schön gegen die Wand fährt.

That's very priceless coming from a Bitcointalk member who's advertising a scam betting site in his signature.  
Some things members coming up with, you'll only see here on Bitcointalk.  

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Any news here regarding welcome bonus for new members signing up for Betnomi?
If so, I would tell the people I'm about to invite.  

Nice goal from Füllkrug, he's really an enrichment for Germany.
Füllkrug could have even scored a second goal if Musiala notices him and doesn't try to score himself but makes an assist to Füllkrug in a better position.

Since Germany has achieved a draw, it's getting very interesting now.
Germany needs to win against Costa Rica for sure as Germany is only at 1 point currently, Spain is at 4 points, Japan and Costa Rica at 3
For all the other teams, even a draw could be enough, depending on results. 
Of course, Costa Rica will face a difficult task because it's Germany and Germany needs a win.

Spain can even afford to lose (if it's not a massive defeat and Germany doesn't score many goals against Costa Rica) because Spain has a much better goal difference.

To be fair here, a lot of nonsense FUD is circulating about that law. It's not "banning mining" as often said because it is still possible to do mining there from existing mining farms. It's even possible to start new mining farms. But new mining farms are required to avoid reactivating old and dirty coal plants because it's targeting such cases, where old, inactive coal plants have been activated to engange in Bitcoin mining. Existing contracts will only be renewed, expanded or new miners allowed to start operation if energy used for operations is 100% renewable.
So, still valid contracts and renewable mining isn't affected as far as I know.

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Regarding the debate on mixers: I haven't done any academic research on the issue but wouldn't it be 100% stupid for this hacker to use ChipMixer and think he'll go unnoticed? His big amounts sent through ChipMixer should clearly create a trackable pattern, where Chainalysis could analyze his transaction flows. Chips going out of ChipMixer have a certain "size", so trying to cash it out (and therefore consolidating his Chips) should result in a nice, trackable pattern.
So yes, let the hacker feel safe when he's trying to cash out the stolen Bitcoin after using ChipMixer while Chainalysis is well aware where he's cashing it out. Catch him, done.
= Play stupid games (use Bitcoin for criminal activity), win stupid prices (get caught).

Most criminals are underestimating how trackable a public Blockchain really is and therefore, I don't see any necessary actions against ChipMixer.

Beim ChipMixer wurde ein Teilnehmer wegen Inaktivität entfernt, zumindest ist dieser Eintrag im Spradsheet vorhanden: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1935179.0
Vielleicht deutet das darauf hin, dass dort in naher Zukunft wieder ein paar Plätze mit neuen Teilnehmern belegt werden.
Jedenfalls war es in der Vergangenheit so, dass öfter gewartet wurde, bis 2-3 Plätze in der Kampagne frei waren und diese wurden dann schrittweise wieder belegt. 

Eine gute Zusammenfassung, wie Elon Musk Twitter gerade schön mit Ansage an die Wand fährt:
Musks Twitter: Eine Chronologie des Versagens

Richtig lustig (weil einfach nur absurd) wird es vor allem ab Minute 9:00. 

Haha, das interessiert die Schwurblerblase auf Twitter aber nicht, denn Inhalte zu prüfen ist denen völlig wurscht, egal wie hirntot die Thesen sind. 

Der aktuell positivste Effekt dürfte sein, dass Elon Musk Twitter von ganz alleine mit seiner Inkompetenz an die Wand fährt.
Es ist mir eh fraglich, warum der Schaumschläger Elon Musk, der prädestiniert dafür ist, Dinge in den Sand zu setzen, so dermaßen überschätzt wird...

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Just a quick question:

Last round, we had quite a few rewards for some random members participating in the voting process:

I don't read anything about that in our current round here, so just a question if it might get added (probably as more sponsors will come in) for our current round.
In my opinion, it would spread out rewards more evenly because for now it looks like "winner takes it all" and many winners will be similar like last round.
Maybe another idea are some random rewards (generated via Bitcoin block number last year) for runner-ups.
Not sure about that but the random rewards for participants taking part in voting last year have been a nice idea in my opinion. 

Really hard to judge how strong Argentina really is. Most likely, Argentina played safe in the first half against Mexico to avoid conceding a goal and for the second half they changed their tactics a little bit even if Messi's goal was somehow a surpsise, didn't see that coming but it's Messi, so we can even expect from him good tricks out of nowhere, especially when Mexico didn't attack him before scoring that goal, Messi had soo much space.
Still, it's also a clean sheet for Argentina and they are highly motivated again. We should also take into consideration Argentina's streak of 36 games without being defeated before.
Probably, the loss against Saudi Arabia was a necessary wake up call for them to take every competitor serious.

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Yes, Bitcointalk usually rewards contributors and in my opinion, that's very succesful so far to improve posting quality as a whole.
Bitcointalk's Awards Campaign is great way to encourage it, too.  

You are completely right here and such campaigns are hopefully creating enough awareness.
Recently, KingsDen has published another topic about posting quality where some good points are made: What is a Quality Post?

Wow, how far we have come.  
Probably, role models are exactly what we need to "enrich" the forum.
Normally, I would expect from members like Foxpup to be a role model but here we are and I'll try my best:



 

Gerne doch, dafür ist das Gewinnspiel ja sogar da. 

Ja, das ist leider sehr unwahrscheinlich. 
Vorige Runde gab es unter allen Teilnehmern, die ihre Stimmen abgegeben haben, einen oder zwei Extrapreise. Aktuell ist das zwar nicht geplant aber vielleicht gibt es noch ein paar Sponsoren, die das ermöglichen. Vielleicht frage ich diesbezüglich mal nach. 
Dass halt auch andere Teilnehmer etwas von Preisgeld bekommen anstatt nur der Favoriten. 

Auf jeden Fall, weil abgesehen von Marktturbulenzen, die lediglich den Bitcoin-Preis in den Keller schicken, werden bei richtigen Krisen mit Versorgungsschwierigkeiten und Beeinträchtigungen der öffentlichen Infrastruktur erst einmal andere Dinge relevant sein, wie Dinge des täglichen Bedarfs (Nahrungsmittel, Wasserversorgung, dezentrale Wärmegenerierung (im Winter)). Nicht umsonst sind das immer die Güter, deren Regale direkt leer werden, wenn sich eine kleinere Krise andeutet. Wie z.B. in der USA, wenn wieder mal ein Schneesturm ansteht aber das sind so gesehen ja eher "kalkulierbare" Krisen bzw zeitlich und lokal begrenzte "Krisen".
Bei zeitlich weniger absehbaren oder großflächigeren Krisen mit Versorgungsausfällen wäre es aber auch erwartbar, dass selbst wenn Bitcoin noch bei den betroffenen Personen verfügbar sein sollte, andere Dinge mit Sicherheit wichtiger sein werden, je stärker die Krise. Gegenstände des täglichen Bedarfs, die man direkt tauschen kann und für den Tauschpartner einen direkten Nutzen haben, wären sicher auch von höherem Wert.
 
Das Thema "Bitcoin als Krisenvorsorge" ist auf jeden Fall spannend aber es wird letztendlich wohl individuell auf die jeweilige Krise ankommen, sodass pauschale Aussagen über die Nützlichkeit des Bitcoins in "Krisen" sehr schwierig sind. Tendenziell denke ich aber, dass z.B. bei Hyperinflation (als Extrembeispiel 1923) Bitcoin eine große Rolle spielen würde und so gesehen auch langfristig, wenn man bedenkt, dass die Inflation jährlich um die 2% beträgt (aktuell mehr) und sich das über die Jahre natürlich sehr summiert. Bitcoin ist da (abgesehen von der kurzfristigen Volatilität) eine sehr gute Antwort darauf. 

Quite a few favorites are struggling like Argentina and Germany but also Belgium and Netherlands didn't really convice so far. England didn't convince today as well but their game against Iran is still making them an interesting candidate for at least semi finals. After all, a loss in the first game can also be a wake up call if the remaining games are not too challenging (Argentina is still likely to advance to the next round while Germany is facing a difficult taksk against Spain).
I'm also not sure how to judge Brazil's win as I'm not really convinced of Brazil this year. Brazil vs. Suisse will probably give us more insights.
But still, we have seen a very strong team from Spain and France was also impressive, so an underdog winning the world cup is still very unlikely even for the current situation, where many favorites are struggling, while top teams like Spain or France are still looking very strong.

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Leaving a few comments here, why I've added some more members to my vote sheet:

• Discovery of the Year: added CoinEraser. As described here, CoinEraser from our German section has been taking some time off the forum previously but he's back now since August and it's great to see him back again, writing meaningful content and of course, his earned Merit is a good proof for that. His efforts have been also rewarded by icopress, who accepted CoinEraser in his signature campaign as icopress is known for only accepting good quality posters.
  Being rewared here in our campaign as well as in icopress' campaign is once again a sign that the posting quality of CoinEraser is a great contribution to the forum and especially the German local board. Therefore I'm nominating CoinEraser as Discovery of the Year.
• Best SpamBuster: added GazetaBitcoin. GazetaBitcoin has a huge experience in combatting spam. GazetaBitcoin's reporting stats are really impressive. And there's more to come: GazetaBitcoin has co-sponsored our campaign to improve posting quality in local boards, where GazetaBitcoin also translated our campaign into Romanian.
  Sure, some trolls and shitposters have complained about our campaign but that's proof enough how important our campaign has been. GazetaBitcoin has had some good appearences, when GazetaBitcoin pointed out (this post deserves some more Merit of course!):
  
  "We really need to start using correctly our native languages. English is spoken all over the world, of course, but mixing it with local language is certainly not a good thing. By doing so we assist to a change to native languages, as more and more may be tempted to use Denglisch / Romglish or any other mix between English and another language.
  
  I spoke, years ago, with a guy I knew and which was adding English words inside each sentence he was saying. And I was correcting him each time. Some day he told me that "this is how the language evolves". I told him "No! This is how the native language regresses, and it's way down is paved by illiterates like you!". He did not talk to me afterwards."
  
  Very well said by GazetaBitcoin.
  And what coincidence, suddenly a Newbie troll appeared, who tried to justify lazy shitposting and "Denglish" (not applying translations from English into German properly). GazetaBitcoin's comment was perfectly pointing out the issue and mabye the troll was triggered by that accurate description of GazetaBitcoin.
  Unfortunately, the moderator of the German section, mole0815, sided with the troll which was a big shame.
  
  The valuable contributions of GazetaBitcoin are a great service to clean up Bitcointalk from spam and shitposts, to encourage forum members to contribute good content and to make everyone aware how to improve posting quality.
  GazetaBitcoin even provided a proofreading of my topics.  
  Yes, GazetaBitcoin is truly dedicated to combatting spam, doing a great job here to call out abusers and improve Bitcointalk as a whole.
• Craft Master: added willi9974 - willi9974 has been added for his various services in the German section (Escrow/Solo-mining runs) and his seed steel plates. He's a perfect pick for Craft Master.

I've linked my explanations in the voting topic from icopress to avoid too much text in my voting list.  

Since our campaign is running for a while now, it's time to reward the contributors so far.

Our goal

Our campaign has been launched to improve posting quality in a meaningful way in local sections, reminding everyone about the importance to contribute quality content, to be constructive, to apply a proper native language, to make posts more attractive by applying some basic practices like:
- Contributing interesting content and providing insights instead of just rehashing what’s already been said / uninteresting fluff / guessing needlessly
- Proper spelling and punctuation; proofreading
- Dividing your article / topic into meaningful sections, using sub-headlines, highlighting important parts. Nobody wants to read a text block of 10-15 consecutive lines
- Avoiding meaningless one-liners (Shitposts). Submitting a post just for the sake of paid signature campaigns should be prevented
- Avoiding bad / unnecessary Memes or GIFs (we are not in Las Vegas)
- Avoiding unnecessary "Denglish" by applying appropriate translations. Don't be lazy and don't annoy native speakers with some easily avoidable Denglish. Respect your language as Bitcointalk should be a place of education, not a place of primary-school-level illiteracy
- Don't be a fool who wants to see Bitcoin as part of a clerical sect
- Flawed identification of sources (plagiarism) for your quoted content.

We are not requesting huge essays all the time but even some basic things (bold) can be done without much additional effort.
It's quite easy to apply proper spelling and punctuation, especially for your native language. If our native language is represented with an own board on Bitcointalk, it's a privilege to write in our own language there. Before submitting your comment, please proofread it properly. Avoid unnecessary "Denglish" / "Romglish", because most translations are basic education and knowing them is not difficult at all. We are not in primary school, applying our local language properly should be easy when we put in at least some effort.


The outcome

Our campaign is a good opportunity to prove how valuable for the community some members really are.
As our "Discovery of the year" we want to say KUDOS to CoinEraser!

Kudos to CoinEraser

CoinEraser has proven to be a very good quality poster of the German section. His posts are insightful, well worded and CoinEraser simply proved how easy it is to apply the criteria mentioned in our campaign.
CoinEraser has been taking some time off the forum previously and it's great to see him back again, writing meaningful content and of course, his earned Merit is a good proof for that.
Finally, his efforts have been also rewarded by icopress, who accepted CoinEraser in his signature campaign as icopress is known for only accepting good quality posters.
Being rewared here in our campaign as well as in icopress' campaign is once again a sign that the posting quality of CoinEraser is a great contribution to the forum and especially the German local board. 


Disappointments of our campaign

As usual, where there is light, there is also shadow and it's also the case for our campaign. 
Unfortunately, the overall outcome is still not satisfactory.
While a few members have clearly shown some honorable effort, our campaign has also been maliciously targeted by some trolls and butthurt shitposter’s apologists. Of course our campaign is a great nuisance for shitposters, lazy illiterate Denglish spammers and meaningless one-liner offenders as putting effort into posts would result in „wasting more time per post“ for them.
When it's too much for you to apply simple translations (which should well known if you aren't illiterate) or if it's too much to do a simple proofreading of your content, it's a big, big shame for these people.
We don’t regret offending them and will keep offending them to push for a better posting quality. 

But for now, our campaign didn’t achieve combatting most easily avoidable problems.
Failing to achieve this goal is a pity for Bitcointalk as paid shitposting is still the main factor for lazy, illiterate word salat spam. And an additional issue, we have faced in our campaign is shitpost / spam apologia even after called out.
Protecting lazy shitposting practices is a sure bet to decrease posting quality further, enabling uneducated, illiterate spam gibberish.

I'm not giving any names here for now of these offenders.
When reading this part, these members will be well aware of their bad faith, which will be hopefully enough for them to feel guilty (and improve their writings).


However, it's a honor for me (and I'm sure that GazetaBitcoin will agree here), to have achieved at least some basic improvements, as positive members like CoinEraser have shown! 
We will keep bringing up ideas to improve posting quality and keep running incentives active.