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2161  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is a hot target for criminals and money launderers. on: July 29, 2014, 01:57:05 AM
And since cash is often used for illegal purposes, government are exerting themselves to restrict cash operations. In many countries (including the USA) you can't pay in cash for, say, home or buy other expensive goods with cash. Thus the flow of large amounts of money can be easily traced.

You can't legally pay in cash when dealing in large amounts.
2162  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is China Hoarding Gold? on: July 29, 2014, 01:55:51 AM
I don't think they are going to establish a new world reserve currency. They are always quite happy with being only the second best. My guess is that they hoard gold just in case dollar should fall. This way their gold reserves will serve a hedge against such a possibility. No matter what currency becomes a new dollar (or even if there is none), they would always have something to exchange for it, or just directly use their gold as money.

They are happy being second best for now. Once they become a developed nation, you never know.

Thinking of the Chinese establishing a new reserve currency at this point of time is far fetched. If you have RMB, you can't even purchase capital assets in China now!!
2163  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Facebook's BUY button! Bitcoin's big moment is here on: July 29, 2014, 01:49:36 AM
Bitcoin has a smaller capitalization than dropbox.  Governments might like Bitcoin; as do some libetarians, but mainstreet is either hostile to Bitcoin or it'll take them years to get on board.


Governments and like bitcoin?  Shocked
2164  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Should trading bots be banned? on: July 29, 2014, 01:25:59 AM
Speculator and trading bot are needed for a healthy system.

True.... Speculators, bots, anybody else is welcome.. As long as they don't affect market integrity.
2165  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will 1 BTC ever equal 1M USD ? on: July 28, 2014, 04:39:31 PM
I will only say I wish. Cheesy
According to analysts, it has a 80% chance of going to zero.  Wink
2166  Local / India / Re: This is what happens when money losses its value on: July 28, 2014, 04:38:09 PM
That was hilarious and if we do not stop war, crony capitalism, destroying countries this may be real for all of us.

http://buysellbitco.in/news/this-is-what-happens-when-money-loses-its-value

Regards

this is an amazing example, but sadly an example that has repeated through history, time and time again. For example during the Great Depression of the 1930's, many European countries faced a similar crisis, the worth of money has gone  so low that it was cheaper to burn stacks of money for heating than buy Fire-wood. Germany at that time faced the worst brunt of the Depression in Europe with money becoming worthless and and to carry a sack full of money to buy a loaf of bread.

The current financial still is vulnerable to such drastic inflation.



Reminds me of a story in Germany. A basket full of money was left outside a shop. Somebody stole the basket and left the money behind. Cheesy
Hyperinflation is a killer.
2167  Local / Press & News from India / Re: [2014-07-27] ET: Gold for bitcoin new fad on: July 28, 2014, 04:32:04 PM
This story seems to have been picked up by other publications as well.

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/internet/news/gold-for-bitcoin-is-indias-new-fad-566354
http://www.livemint.com/Money/7cu7VnxBPreC4dDKiYFQZN/Gold-bugs-meet-Bitcoin-believers-in-bid-to-supplant-the-doll.html
2168  Local / Press & News from India / [2014-07-27] ET: Gold for bitcoin new fad on: July 27, 2014, 05:12:32 PM
Gold for bitcoin new fad as e-currency count nears 500-mark

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/finance/gold-for-bitcoin-new-fad-as-e-currency-count-nears-500-mark/articleshow/39103080.cms
2169  Economy / Services / Re: Design a signature advertising ad for Rollin.io | Compete earn 0.25 BTC Bounty on: July 27, 2014, 02:52:44 PM


Innovative use of colours.  Smiley

2170  Local / India / Re: ClearTax ? Anyone heard about it ? giving Bitcoins worth $1 ???? on: July 27, 2014, 12:22:24 PM
learTax, an online income tax filing start-up based in Delhi, is giving away Bitcoins worth $1 (approximately Rs.60) or a mobile recharge worth Rs.20 to those who refer friends and family members to the website as part of a promotional campaign.

http://www.livemint.com/Companies/DuTk4UJBoCx38HDAtYtvnK/ClearTax-becomes-first-Indian-company-to-offer-Bitcoins.html

One of its co-founders had posted in this forum. Smiley

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=704463.0
2171  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Everyone of my friends says the same: "How do I get Bitcoins?" on: July 27, 2014, 12:15:09 PM

Those are more likely scammers than beggars.  They pretend to be sick/ill/disabled and suck money out of people at freeway off-ramps.  Then after a good day of pulling $400 out of the generosity of others they hop in their Audi A6 and drive home to their home in Newport Beach Tongue

Unless you're willing to lie you would probably be better off working some off jobs. I guess it depends on how much your integrity is worth.

People in this world are quite generous.
I, for one, would not give to a beggar.
2172  Local / India / Re: Capital Control on: July 27, 2014, 12:08:49 PM
This is definately going to happen if the current goverment is really serious in passing the legislation and signing a treaty to bring back the black money, then I really see use of bitcoin by corrupt politician to hawala their funds. This is actually the real concern and which will also happen. The problem is if these corrupt bureaucrats take the bitcoin route then they will benefit and the community will really suffer at large, because on incident is going to start the fall of bitcoin dominos.

If this happens, there could be restrictions on the use of bitcoins in India. But I doubt if the overall value of bitcoin will get affected. You might have to scout for an overseas exchange to liquidate your bitcoin holdings.
2173  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How easy was it to buy Bitcoin back in 2011? on: July 27, 2014, 12:05:56 PM
It was somewhat easier to buy when Mt Gox didn't have any ID requirements but that's also when SHTF.  Bitcoin went from $33 to $2.  Imagine if $33 was like the $1200 last year, the $2 (Jan 2012) would be $72 now.  If BTC started tanking from $500 to $72 over a 5 month period would you have the guts to buy in at $72?

Everything is easier in hindsight.  I didn't sell on the way down to $2, but I did sell on the way back up to $7 lol. Damn that wife.

Sold it at $7? Hope it wasn't a significant portion of your holding.  Smiley
2174  Local / India / Re: Anyone went for this yesterday? on: July 27, 2014, 12:04:31 PM
No, it was more of a workshop instead of a regular meetup.

Hence you can't equate pricing to regular conference.

Still we received a lot of guys supporting us at even these ticket levels, however we have received a lot of inputs and we will be keeping more reasonable prices in the upcoming events.

Regards,
Amit

I guess these conferences would be more for people who are looking at bitcoins as a business.
I would rather buy 0.5 BTC rather than attend a conference for INR 20K.
Personal preference. Smiley
2175  Local / India / Re: AxisBank Tweets About Bitcoin ATM on: July 27, 2014, 11:53:15 AM

Why single out HSBC? Tongue

http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2014/01/07/jpmorgan-chase-to-pay-1-7-billion-in-largest-bank-forfeiture-in-history-settles-criminal-madoff-charges/

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/goldman-sachs-and-bain-capital-agree-to-121-million-settlements-in-lbo-antitrust-violations-case-2014-06-11

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10000872396390444914904577619410325528148

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/may/19/credit-suisse-plead-guilty-criminal-charges-us-tax-evasion

2176  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crossed 500 USD - Bull Market returns ? on: July 27, 2014, 11:45:27 AM
Corrections are healthy!

More merchants accepting BTC will lead to greater liquidation (from those merchants) in the short term but the improvement in awareness among customers and adoption by other big merchants will grow the market.

The problem is the balance between investment and medium exchange, the latter won't lead to higher prices and IS the primary objective of the currency.

Primary objective is to be a medium of exchange which will not be subject to inflation.

After large scale adoption, hopefully prices will be stable.
2177  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Someone sent me 0.0136 free? on: July 27, 2014, 01:47:09 AM
I sense some karma? op loses bitcoin after getting a random amount loll.

Think of the op losing bitcoin and then receiving a random amount.
Same effect, but he would be a lot happier.  Cheesy
2178  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Facebook's BUY button! Bitcoin's big moment is here on: July 27, 2014, 01:44:18 AM
Can't wait to send my facebook-friends some of my Bitcoin millions!

People who haven't heard of bitcoin (yes, there still might be some) could think it was a game like candycrush.  Tongue
2179  Economy / Services / Re: [BOUNTY] Like and share a Facebook page - 0.001 reward for first 100 people on: July 27, 2014, 01:38:34 AM
It might be better to send your facebook links by personal message.

I don't think it is a good idea to link your facebook id + Bitcointalk id + wallet address in a public post. Smiley
2180  Economy / Economics / Re: Is 1 bitcoin a decent and good investment? on: July 27, 2014, 01:35:09 AM

What economic activity would cause bitcoin to go up in value like this?

-The USD could be come so inflated
-The population of Bitcoins becomes finite (once all are mined, similar to gold) and more and more people want to own it
-More people want to own and hoard it

All of these reasons could increase the price. But if it becomes an alternative form of currency, for spending, spending adoption alone will not raise the price (unless the USD or fiat becomes significantly inflated).

Anything I'm missing here?

Alternative opinions encouraged...

According to some investors, they predict BTC adoption could be as much as the users of facebook. And if each adopter, wanted to hold ~$100 worth of bitcoin, the market cap of BTC could shoot up.

Adoption would imply people will like to hold some bitcoin at least.
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