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Well, it would be nice to know the new terms.
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It looks like that is what is happening. We were all brought here on a dream and an ideal. As I've seen here in reality that ideal is greed and those dreams are about getting rich quick  BTC has rested on the laurels for too long and only the truly innovative will rise. Big money could come into this crypto space if btc gets knocked out and make a coin that would be a wet dream to all of us. There is so much bs and rigging going on in this space right now. We would all embrace a truly innovative crypto that the mainstream would support. Some of you big holders maybe saddened by what is going on but I am excited. Crypto isn't going anywhere. Its just changing and evolving. I am excited to see what the future holds.
What you said is mostly right but don't forget that most rigging and BS are going on here in the altcoin space. BTW there are plenty of truly innovative Gen2 cryptos are out in the wild. Pick one. |
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Games and rounds are mostly honest stuff. Not all, but many ponzis/HYIP are not. A separate child board would be enough.
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They will be manipulating the market prices soon enough ...  Normal flow of business on altcoin exchanges like cryptsy poloniex and bittrex. Sometimes they are not manipulating but dictating the prices for certain alts. You can see P&Ds almost every day over there. |
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he did 100% per hour, not per day. It's actually 24% interest per day  Btw, check your PM's! Even that's (24% per day) possible for someone got involved in all the more prominent pump and dump groups with enough funds. |
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we will - and you are right if someone gets robbed in this way you have to ask yourself HOW intelligent i am  i made money in the real stockmarket - and i really know that over a period of time it is possible to double and triple Money cause i have proven this myself so i fall for that because they are saying they are traders and i know People personally that get payouts - so at this Moment thing still looks to good to be true and we had not gone there but it is different if someone says OK you are only paid if you find another dumbster (although this is illegal in most countries) or if someone stated he or she (in this case it is a man) is trader ande ran with the Money there are different ways to get this guy - and we will try all of them - one after another AND ... i not feel harmed because of your words - probably your are totally right Yes, that's a problem here. Everybody keep saying that 1% daily interest is surely a scam, but to be honest I wouldn't be happy with my own performance if I'd make only 1% per day on bittrex, however I used to be overcautious and I'm not a trader . Even a simple ping-pong trading bot can do that. So I think professional/semi-professional traders are especially vulnerable for these kinds of scams as they know that it is possible to double money even within a day on a such volatile market as btc and its alts. Anyway, I wish you good luck with your quest . |
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What happens if the operator pays interest but stop just before the first investor breaks even?
In that case everyone loses, including people who invested first.
There is no way to know the operator isn't going to run off with the money before paying interest and no way to tell if the people claiming to be paid interest are not the operator or working with the operator.
Just because an operator is open about the scheme being a Ponzi doesn't make the scheme honest or any less risky.
The truth is that some time in the future the scheme will collapse and/or the operator will run off with the investors money.
A "honest" scam artist is still a scam artist.
If the operator is a crook then of course everybody going to lose. But that can happen with pretty much everything if money gets involved. Everybody knows (or should know) that a ponzi scheme going to collapse sooner or later. However if the participants know that they are "investing" into a (honest) ponzi instead of thinking that they've invested into some sort of trading or whatever business operations (hidden ponzi) then they know what can they expect and plan accordingly. I they still willing to gamble that's their responsibility. BTW you are right on that this "honesty" is only a limited kind of honesty and should be used as "relative honest in comparison with some others" . |
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I didn't say it will change everything I asked the question. Your role in a discussion is to know what we are talking about and have an opinion.
Do you want to know where babies come from too?
You said exactly that "Gems will change everything" I thought you going to support this claim. I'm aware of gems and its features but I don't see why it would be a game changer. Interesting stuff indeed, but I've seen here a lot of similarly good ideas fading into oblivion, or being unable to break through. Yes, I'm definitely interested in "where babies come from", and I keep researching this question . |
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Still seems to be down. Could you estimate something when it will be back, pls?
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Not true.
If 10 people invest $1000 each and the promoter runs off with the money, everyone loses their money.
And even if the promoter pays out interest, they will have to make 10 payments before the investor breaks even.
If people want to invest, it's their money they can do what they want with it, but there is no such thing as a honest Ponzi; they are all scams.
There are honest ponzi games. If the operator declares that his/her game is a ponzi and the last investors will lose money, then every participants will know what going to happen and then they can invest accordingly. Sites where the operator babling about external profit sources and investments are the really dangerous ponzis. |
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Would you mind to elaborate your claim a bit more?
Gems the cryptocurrency will change Cryptocurrency. ie It will break into the mainstream and all the effects that would bring. Almost every alt around here claiming what you wrote . When I said "elaborate" I meant support with some more detailed stuff, pls... I wasn't asking for more marketing BS. |
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Would you mind to elaborate your claim a bit more?
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Why not in real silver or gold? OK, it's bulky and heavy but I can play Scrooge McDuck with it if I want . |
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Unlikely. Russians used to sort out these kinds of issues on their own.
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Virtual losses. Don't panic sell and you'll have a chance to recover your then non existing losses . Maybe I'm wrong but BTC is too big to fall this early. |
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As I've got in early and spent only buttons and peanuts on my coins I'm still massively in the green. After a dramatic downtrend we might see a dramatic correction . So I'm holding . |
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Many ppl speculating about an elongated downtrend this year too down to the 1xx or even to two digits. Anyway buying now will be profitable in the long run.
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Would be interesting to see the script and the database to find out if it's something with the API or the DB.
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If you haven't noticed. It's going to be XPY. Majority of people are moving fund to XPY because that's more profitable than any other coin out there. It's going to replace BTC (May be) but that's next coin in the list after BTC. Ethereum will be there but just as an another altcoin. Why? Because XPY has community, billions of $ for development and solid user base. They've achieved what any other altcoin could only wish for. They're going to be no.1 by March. Highest volume in major exchange since the launch.  Also, Keep in mind even at its lowest Bitcoin still has 5000x more value than your shitcoin. I really like optimistic people . Don't want to be a party popper but the only thing between the current price and XPY@0.001 is a promise from Josh. But yeah he's good with promising things... |
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Even the most honest ponzi can go bust if there are not enough investors/gamblers... and most ponzi schemes are quite far from being honest.
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