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2181  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽⚽⚽ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk World Cup 2022 - discussion ⚽⚽⚽ on: December 21, 2022, 02:27:29 PM
Sorry, I almost forgot to send the form. I just answered and I want to congratulate once again to casperBDG for winning the competition and also to Trofo and cryptofrka for organizing such a great competition. Btw, I really like the league idea in the form Smiley
2182  Other / Off-topic / Re: 🔥🔥After the 2022 World Cup🔥 on: December 21, 2022, 02:21:33 PM
In my opinion that Mbappé is a king and is new generation. I have never watched Football world cup but in 2022 it made me very excited. And I am also very excited to see that what will happen in 2026 when USA, Canada will host woord cup. And also there are some players like Morocco Goal keeper, he has done great job cause he made effort for moroco team.

Most of Mbappe's goals came against weak teams. Two of his goals came against Poland, two against Danmark, and one against Australia. And in the final, although he scored one goal by himself the other two came from penalty kicks. And during the initial 80 minutes his performance was pathetic (although he made up for that in the next 15 minutes of regular play and 30 minutes of extra time). I thought that although he received the golden boot, there was nothing special in his performance this time. For comparison, I would rate Julián Álvarez ahead of him.

Yeah, it's a problem with golden boot reward because it is not awarded to the best offensive player, but to a player that scores the most goals during the World Cup. There probably are better offensive players than Mbappe, but rules are rules.

We could also argue that Argentinian goalkeeper didn't deserve a golden glove. Look at this comparison between Martinez and Livakovic:


So do you agree that Martinez deserved a golden glove reward as the best goalkeeper on the tournament?
By all accounts France's goalkeeper led the way but all statistics failed when Argentina goalkeeper Martinez saved Randal Kolo's powerful shot towards the post in the 120th minute.  It means that if this goal could have been scored then France would have won the match outright.  But Martinez skillfully parried the shot to lead to the game's trybreaker and eventually Argentina won the final thanks to Martinez's skill alone.



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This was the only victory FIFA decided the Golden Globes deserved for Martinez.

I didn't say that France goalie should have won the award. Livakovic is Croatia national team's goalie. While I agree that Martinez led his team to become the World Cup winner, but I still think that Livakovic had more great saves than Martinez. I know that FIFA often takes into consideration only the last game so I'm not surprised that they gave the reward to Martinez.
2183  Other / Off-topic / Re: 🔥🔥After the 2022 World Cup🔥 on: December 21, 2022, 08:55:20 AM
We could also argue that Argentinian goalkeeper didn't deserve a golden glove. Look at this comparison between Martinez and Livakovic:


So do you agree that Martinez deserved a golden glove reward as the best goalkeeper on the tournament?
Haven't checked the stats of the two at the World Cup but seeing what you're showing it honestly has to be said that Livakovic deserved much more and the difference is vast and it's become quite puzzling why with such disparate statistics the organizers didn't award the Croatian goalkeeper a golden glove.
Being able to bring Argentina to win the World Cup should not be a reason for giving it because appearance should be the benchmark for judging this is quite disappointing and suspicious.

There were also saves that marked the final match. We can say that his save in the 120th minute was perhaps the breaking moment of the match. He also made great saves in penalty shootouts. Livakovic brought Croatia to the semi-finals. Because penalty shootout determined 2 matches. These two goalkeepers came to the fore, but in order to play in the big team, the goalkeeper needs to act like a defender when his foot needs to be smooth as well as penalty saves. These goalkeepers cannot be great team goalkeepers for now.

We all know that Martinez got the golden glove reward just because Argentina won the World Cup. However, one save in the 120th minute of the final game doesn't make someone the best goalie of the tournament. If a golden glove reward is a reward for the best goalie of the tournament, then FIFA should take into consideration all games that a goalie has played, not just the final game. I'm not saying that Martinez didn't play good or that he isn't a good goalie. I'm just saying that Livakovic probably deserved the reward more than Martinez.
2184  Other / Off-topic / Re: 🔥🔥After the 2022 World Cup🔥 on: December 21, 2022, 08:05:47 AM

Yeah, it's a problem with golden boot reward because it is not awarded to the best offensive player, but to a player that scores the most goals during the World Cup. There probably are better offensive players than Mbappe, but rules are rules.


It's not exactly a problem, there's 2 awards in this case:

Golden Boot to the player who score more goals
Golden Ball to the best player of tournament

The only possible way to measure the golden boot is goal

I agree. I was referring to someone who said that Mbappe maybe wasn't the best offensive player in the World Cup. Maybe he wasn't but the rules for a golden boot reward are clear. Whoever scores the most goals in the tournament, he will get the reward. It's not the best player reward but a reward for the best scorer.
2185  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: December 20, 2022, 07:22:24 PM
He will (as I said) won't be able to compete with 25 year olders who are running like hounds a pitch at the age 39. His body is gonna be very old at that point for that kind of very high level football. In Portuguese league he may be able to keep playing but at Euro finals? Nearly impossible. Best way to use Ronaldo would be giving him chance at the end of match like 10-15 minutes as opponent will be tired and he will be able to use his talents. Or just extra-times where every player will be tired anyways. Playing champions league and/or world cup level football is very hard.

Playing the last 10-15 minutes of every game is disrespectful for a player like Ronaldo and I don't think he will agree to that. And he shouldn't. He is/was a great player and the world should remember him like that and not like a player who can't run so his coach is giving him last minutes of a game when everything is decided.
2186  Other / Off-topic / Re: 🔥🔥After the 2022 World Cup🔥 on: December 20, 2022, 07:18:42 PM
This is my best world cup, Qatar performed well, the hosting was classic. I think everyone enjoyed Qatar. In the future they will host again. No one ever believe dthat just small country will displayd such quality. I'm very impressed.
All the players are back to Their various clubs , tomorrow premier league begins. We're back to club football.

It doesn't matter what size is the country that is hosting the World Cup. The point is that Qatar have money to spend and they don't care what will they spend it on. I didn't go to Qatar so I don't know how well was everything organized but on TV everything looked OK.
2187  Other / Off-topic / Re: 🔥🔥After the 2022 World Cup🔥 on: December 20, 2022, 11:38:47 AM
We could also argue that Argentinian goalkeeper didn't deserve a golden glove. Look at this comparison between Martinez and Livakovic:


So do you agree that Martinez deserved a golden glove reward as the best goalkeeper on the tournament?
Haven't checked the stats of the two at the World Cup but seeing what you're showing it honestly has to be said that Livakovic deserved much more and the difference is vast and it's become quite puzzling why with such disparate statistics the organizers didn't award the Croatian goalkeeper a golden glove.
Being able to bring Argentina to win the World Cup should not be a reason for giving it because appearance should be the benchmark for judging this is quite disappointing and suspicious.

Yes, I think that Martinez received this golden glove prize only because the Argentine national team won the WC, but first of all because he defended a penalty shootout in the final match, I think this influenced such a decision in his favor, all this is very subjective, but Livakovic undoubtedly deserved this award.

I agree but also think that Martinez deserved it more than any other goalkeeper simply because of the number of penalty saved,it was about 4 of them,2 in Holland game and 2 in final game taking into consideration that he found the direction even in that penalty which got out.It is only natural for him to have gotten the golden glove because of this and because he had done more than Livakovic,we don't know how Livakovic would have behaved in a final,he surely was great against Brazil but that is only one match.

Livakovic didn't only save few penalties against Brazil but also against Japan. At best I would say that Martinez and Livakovic performance on this World Cup was equal, but just because Argentina won the title. But I definitely don't think that Martinez showed better performance because it was because of Livakovic saves that Croatia finished third. Croatia had problems with scoring goals but because of good defensive play and good goalie they finished third.
2188  Other / Off-topic / Re: 🔥🔥After the 2022 World Cup🔥 on: December 20, 2022, 09:44:59 AM
In my opinion that Mbappé is a king and is new generation. I have never watched Football world cup but in 2022 it made me very excited. And I am also very excited to see that what will happen in 2026 when USA, Canada will host woord cup. And also there are some players like Morocco Goal keeper, he has done great job cause he made effort for moroco team.

Most of Mbappe's goals came against weak teams. Two of his goals came against Poland, two against Danmark, and one against Australia. And in the final, although he scored one goal by himself the other two came from penalty kicks. And during the initial 80 minutes his performance was pathetic (although he made up for that in the next 15 minutes of regular play and 30 minutes of extra time). I thought that although he received the golden boot, there was nothing special in his performance this time. For comparison, I would rate Julián Álvarez ahead of him.

Yeah, it's a problem with golden boot reward because it is not awarded to the best offensive player, but to a player that scores the most goals during the World Cup. There probably are better offensive players than Mbappe, but rules are rules.

We could also argue that Argentinian goalkeeper didn't deserve a golden glove. Look at this comparison between Martinez and Livakovic:


So do you agree that Martinez deserved a golden glove reward as the best goalkeeper on the tournament?
2189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: December 20, 2022, 09:36:26 AM
From what I see all the groups are somewhat interesting here but of course the group A with Spain and the group where Italy is in which has missed I think two consecutive World Cup appearances need to improve themselves by qualifying here for Germany 2024 and finally to see Italy back where it belongs to the top of soccer.

Maybe Ronaldo will still play this last Euro cup for him but I think that the age does not permit that or better permit it but not at full power because Ronaldo is going to be 39 years old,we have seen other great players giving a last try to such tournaments at this age so why not.
It's pretty sure Ronaldo will keep getting called to Portuguese national squad until he completely retires from football. Although his performance will gradually get worse. He is old for football, fans should accept this reality. I wish we could watch him more but time flies. I think he will mostly become bench to play in last 10-20 minutes at max in next European finals. But I think he won't retire yet. He will play for 2 more years in my opinion.
That could happen too but it all depends on Ronaldo and if the country wants him and he wants it then why not. Ronaldo can still be relied upon, although not as good as before, and he also still has the potential to strengthen Portugal and it seems that Ronaldo still has the desire to defend his country.
and group B is no less fierce because the Netherlands are in the same group as France and are still in the same group, there are the Republic of Ireland, Greece, Gibraltar. And I think the Netherlands and France will qualify for the next round.

He is 37 years old now so I'm not sure if he will be able to play at the highest level in two years. Some star players don't know when to stop and then fans are forced to watch them making a fool of themselves by playing football when it's obvious they can't play it at a high level.

Luka Modric said that he will participate in the final four of the UEFA Nations League in the summer and then he will see if he will say goodbye to the Croatia national team or not. I'm pretty sure he will say goodbye.
2190  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽⚽⚽ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk World Cup 2022 - discussion ⚽⚽⚽ on: December 19, 2022, 04:13:17 PM
Congratulations to casperBGD! I didn't follow the competition after I got kicked out in the first kno kout round, but I'm sure it wasn't easy. And the reward is really great! I will day it again, I really hope you guys (Trofo and cryptofrka) will be hosting this type of competition again. It was a pleasure to be a part of this new type of competition in the BitcoinTalk forum!
2191  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: December 19, 2022, 07:52:42 AM
Izgleda da SBF-u ipak ne paše zatvor u Bahamima jer je prema ovom članku odlučio pristati na izručenje Americi. Prema tom članku SBF se na Bahamima nalazi u ćeliji 1.8 sa 3 metra u kojoj se uz njega nalazi još pet zatvorenika. Unutra nema madraca niti WC-a, a zatvorenici izmet vade u kantama. Naravno da je pitanje koliko toga je istina, ali vjerujem da bi mu puno bolje bilo u nekom američkom zatvoru.
2192  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: December 19, 2022, 07:41:36 AM
Argentina no doubt controlled most of the game but France after 80th minute came bak in game and after that they fought really hard specially Mbappe and they took game to penalty shoot out and after that game is all about luck and yesterday was Argentina's day in every aspect.

I don't agree that penalties are all about who has better luck. If that was the case then teams wouldn't practice taking penalty shots. Maybe to fans it looks like a pure test of luck but a goalie doesn't just pick side to defend based on luck. They are prepared for every player who is taking the shot and they know how most of them are shooting penalties.
2193  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: December 19, 2022, 07:35:38 AM
A player like Ronaldo still belongs in the CL with his level, right? It's not as good as it used to be, but it's still good enough for certain teams in the CL. I don't think Real Madrid will want him back either. If he starts playing football in Qatar, he can play in the Asian CL. Also a nice level, but you don't have to see full stadiums there. I don't think Ronaldo is going there yet? Could he also consider going to a club with a slightly lesser status such as Chelsea to still play CL?
No chance for him as even chelsea already rejected a rumour about his transfer to the club. This time ronaldo is still looking for a new club to play with. He has not yet got any offer from the club. It seems like that al nassr may become his new place rather than going to the big club but he will be rarely playing for the club. He has the biggest fan base in the world but remember that he can't deny if he was become even older than before. His time has come and he must accept if these days the football team rarely interested with the old player like him.
I think Ronaldo should forget the English premier league and focus his attention on a smaller league like the Arabian league where he was offered a huge money deal, I think that should be the best decision for him at this point but all good as well if he finally gets a Newcastle deal in the coming weeks, outside that I would prefer the Al nassr deal where he gets enough playing time and more experience in a new place. I don’t think he needs to play in the epl just to prove that Manchester United wasn’t his fault.

I'm sure that he wants to play football for a few more years. It's hard to let go something you played your whole life. He should probably accept an offer from some Asian team because he won't play much in any of the top European leagues.
2194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: December 19, 2022, 07:03:23 AM
The 24-year-old did whatever it takes to win a man match. He tried his best. Second player to score a hat-trick in a World Cup final and win the Golden Boot. After trailing 2-0, Mbappe made it 2-2 just one minute later. After falling behind 3-2 in extra time, Mbappe equalized again at 3-3. The final match at Qatar World Cup 2022 was the best of the century. After thousands of attempts, Mbappe's team France lost to fate. Although they lost, they left the field with their heads held high.

Even though messi and argentina won the 2022 world cup, we have to appreciate the appearance of mbappe and france in this final match, it was beyond expectations that the match which i thought argentina had definitely won since the early rounds, everything was equalized by this young boy and even him recorded a hat trick in this match. It really doesn't make sense the number of times people scream for goals that are created. Indeed this is the best world cup match of all time, everything is beyond reason.

I don't know if it was the best World Cup final match of all time but it was definitely a pleasure to watch. At least for someone who wasn't an Argentina or France fan. Their fans probably pulled all their hair out but for the rest of us it was a great game in which France managed to come back two times, but Argentina was better in penalties. Overall I think that Argentina deserved the gold medal because they really showed great performance in the World Cup.
2195  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Discussion Thread on: December 18, 2022, 08:00:09 AM
The position from which Morocco has come from the semi -finals is worthy of praise. However, it can be said that they are a good team. Playing in the semifinals in the World Cup is nothing less especially for Morocca. I believe they were far behind the courage to play with their big teams and the confidence they needed. If they can maintain this continuity of their game and able to grow their confidence, then Morocco can win the world cup in the future. It can be considered a big problem for few teams who play well but lag behind for experience.

Everyone expected Morocco to be eliminated from the first round. But to everyone's surprise, Morocco qualified for the knockout round as group champions. Morocco's attack was not strong. However, Morocco's performance was stable. The coach's match strategy was excellent. Also their defense was very strong. If Morocco's attack had been stronger, they would probably have been able to qualify for the finals as well.

Both Morocco and Croatia fighting for the bronze medal shows how strong was the group where both of them started the World Cup journey. I agree that everyone thought that Belgium and Croatia would qualify for the knockout stage but Belgium underperformed while Morocco played great defensively. I can't believe that no one managed to score a goal against them until the semi final game! They only concede an autogoal against Canada. That's really an impressive achievement.
2196  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: December 18, 2022, 07:54:31 AM
Croatia's second goal seemed to be an accident, that the player actually wanted to pass his partner, but the player's foot deviated towards the goal and chipped the ball, in the end the ball flew high towards the goalkeeper in the left corner of the goalkeeper,

I don't think that goal was a mistake, the scorer of the goal intentionally put the ball at that corner knowing the keeper wasn't in a good position to stop the ball. You can see him bending his body as he kicks the ball so he can get enough curve on th ball. The goal was beautiful to watch, Croatia played very well in that game and were determined to win it. Morocco didn't show me much fight, I taught they were going to win Croatia due to their defense record but they have just let four goals in, in their last two matches after going 5 games without conceding any goal form the opponent.

Croatia would be disappointed in their world cup run, last tournament they were the runner up and now the third position. This means they drop rank instead of progressing. I know they would had thought they can go all the way this time around to win the tournament and that was what they were aiming for. Congratulations to them though on making it this far, the cash prize for third position is also fair and will go along way in developing football in Croatia. The players should hold their head high because they surprised the world once again.

That goal wasn't an accident. As I'm from Croatia where Orsic is playing im Dinamo Zagreb, I know that this kind of goals are his specialty. He scored similar goals to Tottenham and some other clubs in the Champions League. He is a very good player and it's a shame that he didn't find some club in the top European league few years ago. He is not that old yet but I'm sure he would develop to a better player if he had found an European team to play in some bigger league than Croatian HNL.
2197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: December 17, 2022, 06:49:42 PM
/snip

I wish Modric would not leave the national team after this match but we can't expect too much.

/snip

Modric said in the interview just after the game that he will play for the national team in the final four of the UEFA Nations League. He said that since he was a part of the team that qualified for the final four, it makes sense to finish that competition too. I agree with him and I think that he will say goodbye to the national team after the UEFA Nations League.
2198  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: December 17, 2022, 06:34:53 PM
/snip

The big game is between Frances the defending champions and Argentina, I guess the 2022 world cup is gradually coming to an end.

Yeah, too bad it's coming to an end. It was really a pleasure to watch all the games. Especially wince the host nation was relatively close to my country (only 2 hours time difference). The next one will be hosted by USA, Canada and Mexico and that won't be easy to watch since a lot of games will be played at night in my country.
2199  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: December 17, 2022, 06:29:33 PM
Its not a surprise for me to see Morocco also lost the match for 3rd place in World Cup. They clearly outperformed their rivals until they lost to France. That sort of lifted magic around them and made them vulnerable team probably with a hit to their mentality, motivation and so on. I also congratulate Croatia, because they are sort of small nation (talking about their population) but they became football country indeed in last 10 years building one of greatest teams of Europe.

Yeah, we are a very small nation of three million people. And not only that. An interesting fact is that Croatia qualified for the six World Cups in it's history. On three of them they passed the group stage and all three times they managed to pass the group stage they won a medal (two bronze and one silver medal). And I really think that Gvardiol needs to be the best young player and the best defender of this World Cup. OK, maybe the best defender title can wait for a few more years, but he has to be given the best young player award!
A country with a population of 3 million but with a silver medal finish in 2018 and a bronze medal in 2022 is definitely a very good thing. Congratulations to you and your Croatian friends by placing 3rd this time even though it was slightly less than the previous world cup but still this is a very good achievement.

On the other hand, Morocco is actually very good and this is also a very extraordinary achievement for them in this world cup.

I think that today Moroccan players wasted too much energy to argue with the referee who was terrible. Maybe Croatian players were better prepared mentally and they didn't argue that much even when Croatia was denied a penalty shot after the foul on Gvardiol. But none of that matter now since Croatia won. Too bad it's pretty cold in Croatia now so the welcoming party probably won't be as massive as it was four years ago.

Its not a surprise for me to see Morocco also lost the match for 3rd place in World Cup. They clearly outperformed their rivals until they lost to France. That sort of lifted magic around them and made them vulnerable team probably with a hit to their mentality, motivation and so on. I also congratulate Croatia, because they are sort of small nation (talking about their population) but they became football country indeed in last 10 years building one of greatest teams of Europe.

Yeah, we are a very small nation of three million people. And not only that. An interesting fact is that Croatia qualified for the six World Cups in it's history. On three of them they passed the group stage and all three times they managed to pass the group stage they won a medal (two bronze and one silver medal). And I really think that Gvardiol needs to be the best young player and the best defender of this World Cup. OK, maybe the best defender title can wait for a few more years, but he has to be given the best young player award!
Congratulations Croatia on winning the title for the third position,  they played excellently today and their motivation was on point . Morocco did thier best too but somewhere they were lacking in motivation and aggressiveness today. Morocco is no doubt an amazing team and they have proven that to everyone.
Croatia have always been good in playing football.

Thanks man!
2200  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: December 17, 2022, 06:20:56 PM
Its not a surprise for me to see Morocco also lost the match for 3rd place in World Cup. They clearly outperformed their rivals until they lost to France. That sort of lifted magic around them and made them vulnerable team probably with a hit to their mentality, motivation and so on. I also congratulate Croatia, because they are sort of small nation (talking about their population) but they became football country indeed in last 10 years building one of greatest teams of Europe.

Yeah, we are a very small nation of three million people. And not only that. An interesting fact is that Croatia qualified for the six World Cups in it's history. On three of them they passed the group stage and all three times they managed to pass the group stage they won a medal (two bronze and one silver medal). And I really think that Gvardiol needs to be the best young player and the best defender of this World Cup. OK, maybe the best defender title can wait for a few more years, but he has to be given the best young player award!
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