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2181  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Paypal a scam? on: November 24, 2016, 09:15:23 PM
It isn't an outright scam but is most certainly has, or at least had, incredibly unfair business practices. Their cheap reason is because they get scammed a lot but even Visa or Mastercard who probably have the most fraud don't have the same (lack of) ethics PP does.

I still own a paypal account but have not used it for years after a particular incident where I was labelled a scammer on forums because my account was frozen just as I was paying for a service. It took weeks to resolve, and each new login or activity required me to send countless documents and information plus cost me so much in phone bills trying to deal with customer service, I just gave up.



What unfair business practices are you referring to? I've never seen them take any action that wasn't warranted. People try to use Paypal to scam all the time, and PP has had to develop measures to protect themselves. But anyone using the service within the terms of service is generally not have problems. Anyone attempting to abuse Visa or Mastercard in the same way would face the same repercussions. Visa and Mastercard also have a lot more leverage with consumers, in that they can negatively affect your credit score, whereas Paypal, which doesn't deal with credit, cannot and has to be more proactive to head off fraud.
2182  Economy / Economics / Re: Currency v Property on: November 24, 2016, 08:03:17 PM
I really dont know and im so confused. How government treat bitcoin. Is it currency? Is it property? But for me its both currency and property. Currency because its like money that anyone can accept and generaly use(ofcourse except countries that banned bitcoin). And property because you can posses and keep it anytime you want. This things doesnt matter to me. As long as theyre not prohibiting us to use bitcoin, im okay with that

Since currency can be owned, it is someone's property legally

The difference is that property is usually taxed (a property tax) while currency itself is not taxable overall. There were efforts which could be construed as directed at taxing the money you own (for example, free money), but as far as I know, this idea didn't catch on anywhere. Really, why would you have to pay a tax if you decided to save some funds to buy, say, a house? The bottom line is that money is not taxable, but property is, so if Bitcoin is to be considered as property, it should be taxed accordingly

In the US, currency trades are taxable. If you convert USD into another currency and later convert it back and realize a gain, you must pay taxes on the gain. It's the same for how bitcoin is treated as property. If you acquire bitcoin (not through buying it), you have to pay a property tax on it. If you buy it and sell it and realize a gain, you have to pay tax on the gain.
2183  Economy / Economics / Re: Currency v Property on: November 24, 2016, 08:01:02 PM
Bitcoin as of now feels more like property than currency.

It is sort of an investment that you just sit on and then cash out when you want to.

Not as much purchasing power with Bitcoin on buying goods.

Well one reason might be the volatility. In order for people to take bitcoin seriously as a currency, it needs to have price stability. It's never been stable in its history, so it's failing a major requirement of viable currencies. Further, the IRS has classified it as property. So at least they share your assessment that it feels more like property than currency.
2184  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: November 24, 2016, 07:53:20 PM

All quoted above are true.Bitcoin is now getting more stable than it is before, the adaption of the users are increasing in number and transactions and features were happening in an instant. But still it is not yet absorbed or even heard by atleast half of the worlds population so it will never be imagined that in 15years it will be the universal currency.

Agree. As Bitcoin grows stronger everyday, in development and user acceptance worldwide, we could probably see it become used as a universal currency sometime in the future. However, by that time, Bitcoin scalability would've faced major improvements in order to handle all of the world's transactions. Speaking of which, considering Bitshares capability of handling 100,000 TPS, it definitely shows that it is not too far from cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin to be able to handle superior TPS and become used as a mainstream payment method that would surpass even VISA and MasterCard worldwide. The only thing that I'm concerned with, is whenever scalability solutions like these could affect Bitcoin's decentralization.  Undecided

Some folks here claim that this is next to impossible without losing Bitcoin decentralization

On the other hand, though, we already have mining effectively centralized in the hands of the Chinese miners. Figures differ strongly but the miners from China certainly have more than 51% of hashing power accumulated in their hands. Since miners are basically the same guys who process transactions, what real difference would further centralization make if they already essentially control the Bitcoin network? In other words, making transaction processing more centralized for the purpose of scaling up Bitcoin couldn't make things any worse than they are already

You make "all chinese miners" sound like one cohesive block, like they all belong to a hive mind or something. I don't think that's any more accurate than assuming any other ethnic group is one group. It doesn't seem likely to me. China is still going to have regional groups, or pools, not simply be "all those Chinese." Further centralization in China, though, at the expense of other areas of the world would mean larger concentrations of the pools that operate there, so ostensibly, further centralization would bring greater power to the groups that don't currently have a majority of the network, except when you group an entire ethnicity together for the sake of claiming they control the network, without regard for whether they are all actually working in concert.
2185  Economy / Economics / Re: USD vs BTC on: November 24, 2016, 06:14:16 PM
Everything is denominated in dollars. The only way bitcoin gains an advantage over USD is when you're buying btc to try and acquire more USD (through price appreciation of the btc). When you're buying something, even if the price is denominated only in btc, you have to do the conversion to USD to know whether or not it is a good price, because the value of btc relative to USD changes so quickly.
2186  Economy / Economics / Re: Sell Everything? on: November 24, 2016, 06:11:32 PM
The only time selling everything makes sense is when you're convinced that a major crash or correction is imminent, and you plan to buy back everything at lower prices. It doesn't matter if the investment is equities, bitcoin, gold, or another type of asset. Trying to call something like that is a crapshoot at best though. Market timing isn't a strategy I find to be compelling, and I don't believe anyone who claims they can do it. Unless you're Miss Cleo, of course.  Grin
2187  Economy / Economics / Re: Invest your bitcoins. on: November 24, 2016, 05:01:42 PM
Many people believe that a secure investment is to hold the bitcoins. No, bitcoins is money. Like as fiat money his price has up and down. Bitcoin's drawback till now is the big volatility compared to fiat money. This may be change in near future as the maturity of bitcoin increases over the time. Investments is the same as fiat too. Instead of deposit fiat you deposit coins. The same with withdrawal.

If bitcoin is experiencing price swings relative to any other currency, that makes it an opportunity to increase your value, regardless of whether you consider bitcoin to be money or not. Those two things, bitcoin being an investment and bitcoin being "money," are not mutually exclusive.
2188  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: November 24, 2016, 02:58:37 PM
I'm just looking for some sites that has high profit every hour when you invested to them. I know that HYIP sites are mostly a scam after a week it was launched but it is more better to risk something than to wait for something even you don't do a single thing. The best technique when you are going to invest in some HYIP site is you have to take the opportunity in the first day that it is being launch to avoid the scam thingy.

First you say you're looking for high profit sites, then acknowledge that you know HYIP sites are scams. Those two statements are in direction contradiction of each other. There is no such thing as riskless profit. Any site promising to return high yields hourly or daily are guaranteed scams. Any site promising to do it on a longer term basis is a probable scam. The only way an investment can return profit to you is if it conducts some type of business that actually creates a profit to begin with. Constantly taking more money in but never operating a business is not a site that can return profit to you. It's a ponzi. So no, it is not better than to "do something" than to do nothing. You're better off doing nothing.
2189  Economy / Economics / Re: Passive Income on: November 24, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
61% of people here have voted that they have passive income and I'm wondering how and what?

If they count that solving captchas, faucets are passive income then they are completely false because it is highly active income.

I voted for no because I don't have any passive income and I don't have any plan how to make a passive income so if anyone has any suggestion let me know!

Passive income is not hard to come by. If you buy a stock that pays a dividend, that's passive income. It's probably the most common form of passive income. Even if you only have one share that pays a couple cents every quarter, that's passive income. Obviously, the more you have, the more you earn. But going from "no passive income" to having "any passive income" is not nearly as hard as people are making it out to be.
2190  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: November 24, 2016, 06:39:43 AM
Maybe paper money in that time would be obselete but it will never be gone. Some people especially those who are in rural areas still be needing paper money because most of them are not aware of technology and the internet signal is that good so paper money would still be their primary mode of payments.

I'm sure at times people thought the same of gold-backed currency; that no matter how convenient fiat was, it would always need be be backed by gold in order to have value. That clearly hasn't been true. Money is no longer backed by gold and the economy is fine. Perhaps the reliance on paper money is similarly over-stated.
2191  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: November 08, 2016, 01:47:06 AM
The best investment strategy would be to invest in an actual business that generates profits, which gold and Bitcoin aren't and don't. Gold and Bitcoin are speculative investments, merely just gambles. You're at the whim of what everyone else thinks it's worth. When you buy a stock, you are in a sense as well, except there is a business underlying the value, and as the business becomes more profitable, the investment is worth more regardless of if the market recognizes it or not.
2192  Economy / Economics / Re: How would you double $100,000 safely? on: November 08, 2016, 01:43:54 AM
Safe way to double $100,000: buy treasury bonds and wait 30 years. Doing anything else takes risk. In almost every case, the potential return is tied directly to the risk involved. The safest investment always yields the lowest return. There is currently nothing safer than owning treasury securities. It will also return the lowest amount of money on the investment, but at a 3% yield under the long term bonds, you can double your money in approximately 30 years.
I think this is the safest answer here Smiley Treasury Bonds but the catch is the time factor Smiley 30 years? maybe depends on how much interest. There is a formula they used before in order to double your money, it is called the Rule of 72.

To know when to double your money, divide 72 by the interest rate. For example when will your money doubles when your interest rate is 6% per year?

72/6=12. Meaning it will take 12 years (72 divided by 6) for your money to double.



I'm familiar with the rule of 72, it's well known. However Treasuries don't yield anywhere near 6%. Interest rates are so low that you could only reasonably expect 2%-3% on the longest term securities, and I believe the longest term is still the 30 year note. Using the rule of 72, that would put your timeline to double your money at 24-36 years. I just split the difference and called it 30.
2193  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house? on: November 08, 2016, 01:39:38 AM
Regardless of how you buy your house, you're going to have to pay taxes on it when you sell. If you're buying a house with bitcoin, you're still going to use the USD equivalent for tax purposes. All real estate transactions are registered with a county or local government office, you cannot buy a house anonymously.
2194  Economy / Economics / Re: Big Crash coming on: November 08, 2016, 01:35:08 AM
The big crash is postponed. The FBI has stopped the investigation against Hillary Clinton. Two days before the election. Now nothing stands in the way of their victory. The exchanges are already celebrating this with good day wins. I am convinced that the election of Trump will not be a black swan for world economy.

If Trump wins he should first initiate investigations against the FBI themselves, their director and his accomplices. On the flip side, how do you know that the election of Hillary will postpone the big crash or even remove the possibility of it altogether? Markets are evidently smelling easy money, but wouldn't that bring crash even closer to reality? Something like wild merry dancing on a volcano?

The market is simply making back the losses since Comey announced prematurely that the FBI was looking at Clinton's emails again. If you look at what that did for Trump, it improved his chances of winning from the low 20 percent to mid 30 percent range. That's a huge swing. The increased likelihood of a Trump win caused investors to flee to safety because one thing that smart money knows is that Trump would be a disaster for the economy. As Trump's odds have fallen back down, money is flowing back into the market. That's what the big rally today was.
2195  Economy / Economics / Re: The Halving - Good or Bad for Bitcoin? on: November 08, 2016, 01:30:33 AM
Eventually Bitcoin will halve to the point where fees will have to increase dramatically to offset the lost income from new coin fees. I can't see that being a good thing for the currency or adoption. A major advantage now is transaction fees relative to alternative methods of value transfer. If the transaction fees become unwieldy, Bitcoin could collapse.
2196  Economy / Economics / Re: Sell Everything? on: November 08, 2016, 01:24:29 AM
The market did go through a correction this year, as the OP subject was predicting. However, I think the RBS analyst who made the prediction was anticipating a much longer and deeper downturn, as anyone following the advice to sell everything and move to cash has missed a big run up after the short correction market reversed course.
2197  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Paypal a scam? on: November 08, 2016, 01:21:28 AM
I hope that PayPal will restore its reputation and will work as early as in the near future. It is a pity that they have lost a lot of customers. Nobody wants to risk their money
they don't lost a lot customers,even they do,they will always get a bunch of new customers,as i've seen that paypal verification service are now growing up and getting used widely among many people,it's a clue that paypal still become a need for those who transacting in online world

even their policies are sucks and painful,you can't avoid that they're the most used service compared to other
Most users are unaware of those policies anyway until they encounter someone disputing payments. I can only imagine people making thousands of money by depositing 1,000$ in Paypal, buying something worth 1000$, then dispute the payment after you got the item. I'm pretty sure somebody's abusing this Buyer Protection Policy so much while seller's can't do anything about it.

That kind of action would et shut down real fast. It's not in paypal's interest to allow people to get away with such abuse and it's not in their customers interest to tolerate a business that doesn't shut down scammers hard. PayPal is a payment middleman, and those in that business are ripe for disruption by middleman-less technologies, so they understand very clearly the need to operate fairly for all parties.
2198  Economy / Economics / Re: Passive Income on: November 08, 2016, 01:17:12 AM
i have been trying to make some passive income for myself in the past 2 months and i have been somewhat successful. unlike other comments in this topic i don't consider earnings through jobs and trading as passive income that is why i have made some long term investments in gold and also i invested in real estate which will make me a good profit in the near future because of its location.

Real state have always been a source of a passive income from times, we can see how the prices of places or apartments or houses increase with the time according to their location, which in a result gives us great returns if we are in the business from quite a lot of time.
Good idea but it needs a large money to buy a house and lot and start to rent it to other to make monthly passive income..
It is good to have that business unlike other business if you lose you can not recover it back;.. unlike renting apartment its sure that you will earn a passive income daily.

this is my greatest dream - to have a passive income from real estate. Now I am collecting money to buy real estate. But this is really a very large sum.

I admire and inspired by those people who are able to get some passive income with their own business such as real estate property or rental services. And that is already sufficient to make your life a living. So far, I don't my passive income and I can't say my salary is a passive income because that is different from profit.

Well salary be definition is not passive income because salary is directly related to work. Over time, if you were to save up enough money to invest in an asset that pays you just for holding it, that would be passive income because the income is not tied to performing any work. For example, a rental property or an equity investment that pays dividends.
2199  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: November 08, 2016, 01:14:21 AM
Hey wetsuit, my lowest tier claiming reward has been halved again. Is this a site-wide occurrence or is the glitch back? My lowest tier reward is currently paying about 140 sats per claim. Earlier it was in the 280s. I don't know what causes this. It would be great if this would stop happening though.  Grin

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Sorry about that, our bot checker needs some fine-tuning. It should be ok for you now.

Thanks for the prompt fix. It is back to normal now. Is there a correlation between activity and this occurrence? That is, does using the faucet more frequently increase the odds of getting snagged by a bot checker?
2200  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: November 07, 2016, 12:42:25 PM
Hey wetsuit, my lowest tier claiming reward has been halved again. Is this a site-wide occurrence or is the glitch back? My lowest tier reward is currently paying about 140 sats per claim. Earlier it was in the 280s. I don't know what causes this. It would be great if this would stop happening though.  Grin

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