Can you recommend an idiot's guide to setting up a node?

I have 1000 Drk waiting to go to work... also much less temptation to sell them if they are making Drk babies for me.

Although I won't argue the fact you put quebecoin on the list, you may wish to revise your criteria. Limecoin shouldn't be there just because of Bittrex. It has a decent enough volume on poloniex, nearly 3btc just now when I checked, and an active dev.

I don't hold any LC, so don't think I am biased. I just want to state relying on bittrex alone for volume numbers is very misleading. An example would be that until semi-recently, Darkcoin typically never appeared as a high volume coin on Bittrex -- small exchanges can be weird sometimes. Offbeat or new coins can have more volume than more established active coins on small exchanges.

What a bizarre, and strangely angry mindset.

You seem to forget bitcoin had no competition. When you are the only game in town, you can play by different rules.

As for JP finding another exchange, well... evidently Poloniex already turned down the coin. And that was when the coin was more popular. Yes, I believe the coin can get on other exchanges, just that if the volume gets too low, you'll be looking at allcrypt or tiny exchanges where you wonder if they'll ever send you any coins.

Multiple exchanges = arbitrage = volume. Volume = more interest = greater adoption. If you dismiss volume + value, nobody will care about the coin.

According to that bittrex post, a coin needs at least .1 btc daily to maintain costs. QBC is currently at .11 btc/daily. I'd hardly say it's safe.

The dev needs to be active here, as has been stated several times by many people. Volume = exchanges = survival. This 10 year plan is all well and good, but will anyone care about a coin that has no exchange, and eventually then no miners?

ShareX may be an exchange to target. It's new, it's small, and probably not very picky at all. But it could be a temporary lifeboat if things go poorly. I'd also say Austin Global is one to consider.

I think this is something that the devs should clear up.

The current team isn't the same as the XLC dev, who was the original dev for XBC who did the ipo stuff. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it sort of went like:

XBCPlus started XBC, ran the ipo, and then he either walked away, or handed off the coin to a new dev team (not sure which). There were concerns regarding the ipo money and how it wasn't being used for development, but that may have been worked out by now between the original dev and Serious (no idea). That is also why XLC's ipo was on Bittrex, as the person who runs Poloniex has some issues regarding the original dev's behavior.

Basically saying, in a confusing sounding way, that the XBC devs/team didn't release a second coin. In fact, many weren't particularly happy about it. Nor did they get the ipo money.

It's not completely closed source, but darksend is currently closed source... until Sunday, I believe (or whenever testing is done).

I guess you haven't kept track of other alt coins. Notice any others using DarkGravityWave or X11?
They all got it from DarkCoin... they are open sourced. I can't believe you haven't heard of X11 until now.

Do a search on X11 and DGW in the general ann thread... tons of coins pop up.

It's difficult to say where Drk eventually will end up. It could get some anonymous coin/wallet competition, level off around $10-$40ish, or go completely crazy. It's the sort of coin that could get to $300+ one day without a person sounding completely insane for saying so.

So it's a risky coin to sell, unless you really need the money right now. I expect plenty of btc people sold off when the coin hit $10-15 or so, and felt it'd never go any higher.

I just know that unless the price goes really crazy, I'll never feel comfortable selling. I'd like to sell high and buy back in low, but beats me as to when we hit those marks. I should probably spend this weekend looking at how to set up a masternode.... my coins are wasted just sitting there otherwise. Less temptation to sell them too if they are working for me.

Thanks for the update, and yeah, that's the sort of info we'd like to see more of here. Besides just informing people, it serves an additional purpose of possibly getting more people interested in the coin for the first time.

Sometimes people just assume the worst, or are confused completely (like those who think xlc dev is currently this coin's dev) and figure nothing is going on with the coin. Any info at all helps. Thanks again.

The sites I am referring to have slowed down microsoft, and crashed entire sites, so yeah, lots of people. Now, that is only for more popular deals, such as black friday sales and such. Since this involves crypto and isn't the same as simply using cash to buy something, I expect the numbers to be much less.  So it may be safe. But I expect I could annoy a lot of people if you sold out of gcs too quickly. We'll see how you do.

Well, if you get to 25%+ and need more people, I may be able to find some. But it may be enough to crash the site (or at least enough to grab all of your amazon cards) which probably isn't exactly what you are hoping for.

I'll certainly save up for some amazon gcs if they reach at least 25% off. The question is when is the best time to pick up Noble... I guess now may be as good as time as any... even if noble sinks a bit in the short term, if btc rises up and noble holds it ground, it'll sort of even out. I assume coinpayments simply converts noble to btc at the time of purchase? I never used them before.

Sounds great (from a consumer standpoint, anyway). But my question is, if you increase the discount by 1% daily, and expect you can get up to 30%, why will anyone purchase anything until it gets close to 30%, or more? Unless you think popular items will sell out eventually.

I just checked and see some cards are already low stock. So I expect it'd be a bad idea for me to post general info on it, where I planned. They can hammer big sites, or kill them completely (they've overloaded HP, microsoft, etc) during Black Friday deals.

How set are you in regard to Amazon cards? Meaning, will you possibly sell out? And they work worldwide?

If you get to 30%, I know of some general deal sites that probably would jump on it. They sometimes go through hoops just to get 5% CB using a credit card for amazon GC purchases. Amazon GCs never ever go on discount anywhere.

A 30% discount on amazon gcs and I probably could get them to bankrupt you.

That's a good example. I have heard of the upcoming casino thing, but I don't have a clue what it actually entails. Nor when it will be released, or basically anything at all about it. Most coins sort of promote such things in their forum more.

For the dev team discussing ideas, or just general talk, there is nothing wrong with irc. I didn't mean my post to sound that way. But it's of equal or greater importance to have discussions in this forum too. There is nothing wrong with using both irc and forums.

The problem arises when the 'dev talk' here is primarily just an update post, and community members are using irc exclusively, while neglecting this thread. What happens then, right or wrong, is an appearance of inactivity. Not of just the devs, but of those interested in the coin and its 'community', for lack of a better term. Instead of hearing of people discuss ideas on what merchants they will target... we get nothing. We don't hear of planned events. We don't hear of new features right away, we don't know how people plan to promote the coin, and we are basically in the dark until we get an update post from the dev.

Now I don't expect a dev to post here constantly, as that would be silly. More open discussion would be nice though. I am also referring to those on the coin committee and those who are planning things. It'd be nice if they posted here a bit more as to upcoming plans, asked for feedback, that sort of thing.

And again, appearances matter and it makes the coin look less active than it really is, if half (or most) of the activity is taking place on an irc channel somewhere. So using irc is fine, and yep, it's probably a better way for people to communicate quickly. But this forum should be used as a gateway to investors and people who are just discovering the coin for the first time. You shouldn't expect them to hop on an irc channel to hear what is going on with the coin.

Sell some, hold some... it's a safe bet. I won't tell you when to sell, as beats me when is ideal too. Nobody knows where the highs are. If you guess right, you can buy back in and end up with even more Drk. The date to watch is the 25th, as that is the day I believe masternode testing is finished. Quite often prices rise based on expectations, then level off or fall when that expectation is met.

But Drk is sort of weird, so who knows.

Do you really need the money right now? If not, I'd wait.

You can of course try selling at high, buying back in at a low. But that only works if you guess correctly. Up to you if you want to take that risk. If unsure, sell some, keep the rest. That way you'll make some profit, and mitigate some risk in case the price goes down.

Long term I expect Drk to go definitely higher than it is now. But up to you if you want to hold that long. Personally I'm keeping enough for one masternode (assuming I can figure out how to set it up) and will play with my remainder, which is a little more than you have. Yet I am hesitant to sell any, just because I have a knack for guessing horribly wrong on highs and lows.

Yeah, I agree and am holding now too. It never made sense to me to sell with an imminent wallet release. Of course the term 'imminent' may be rather flexible.

I agree wholeheartedly in regard to using this forum instead of irc. The devs should be posting not only updates, but ideas, plans and have actual conversations here. Most people aren't using irc, so have no idea what is being discussed or future plans.

If you want an example of what happens to a coin when the devs use irc instead of this forum, you don't have to look any further than maza. It's a great example for all coin devs here, of what NOT to do.

Yeah, it could be at that price. Or it could be at 50 or less sats.

I'd be extra cautious with this coin. I certainly wouldn't recommend that anyone expect a certain price to be reached -- a ton of dumpers out there, even if the price does go up.

Yeah, most of my coins are tied up in coins like XBC that I didn't really want to sell right now.. so you sit there, watching other coins, just waiting. That was the problem with telling people to put coins on Polo... they sit there, people get impatient and that sell button is so easy to press.

On the bright side, its a safe bet to think XBC will certainly rise based on the new wallet + whatever else they have planned. It's weird to think, since the coin seems like it's been around a while, but it hasn't even gotten on other exchanges yet. And a bit more of a delay probably won't hurt, as I expect this to be a Drk weekend regardless. Getting the new wallet out by Sun/Mon might be a good idea though... people probably will have extra btc from Drk proceeds and XBC could be something people would want to jump back into, if they got out previously.