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21921  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Estranged Core Developer Gavin Andresen Finally Makes Sensible 2MB BIP Proposal! on: February 04, 2016, 06:36:12 PM
Just another example of Core attempting to apply a centrally planned economic policy onto the Bitcoin protocol.

don't worry. the blockstream fanboys have been blasting that bitcoinocracy link between all their friends.. its not a fair view of the community.

hell even hilary clinton can fake a poll by only asking her best friends to get on TV and show their support for her
21922  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it good or bad that Core development is virtually controlled by one company? on: February 04, 2016, 06:32:53 PM
Well I do applaud you for being brave enough to at least state that.

When you are closer to that time let me know.


and i will laugh if it turns out that its a blockstream sponsored event and you have been paid to attend, either as panelist or organiser
21923  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it good or bad that Core development is virtually controlled by one company? on: February 04, 2016, 06:26:09 PM
i have no master. but your assumption that someone can't survive and make a living without one, shows that you do have a master and that you get paid and your mind cannot cope with the thought you you being independant.
please think outside of the box you are living in

I am financially independent (which I am pretty sure you are not) so I am going to outlast you whatever happens.

Keep trying with the stupid stuff mate - everyone is seeing you're lack of intelligence.

And in case I'm wrong then why don't we organise a meetup in say Hong Kong (assuming you have funds that shouldn't be a problem for your should it)?


im going europe in the spring america in summer and thailand in autumn. i might decide to make the couple hour flight from thailand to honk kong in autumn. if there is anything more interesting then just meeting you.

hopefully there is a hongkong bitcoin meetup in the autumn which you would attend.(2 birds one stone)
21924  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Estranged Core Developer Gavin Andresen Finally Makes Sensible 2MB BIP Proposal! on: February 04, 2016, 06:19:47 PM
SegWit does seem good although it is a little tricky and wonder if we will get it perfect the first time.

Increasing the blocksize limit seems good to me.  It seems trivial to get it right.

Doing both seems ok to me but does contradict the wisdom of only making one change at a time.  Can we change one and then a little later the other or is there some compelling reason to do them at the same time?

2mb is just a few lines of code that just sit there as a buffer.. just like 1mb set as a buffer for years never hitting top capacity. segwit is a total change

One thing I wonder about is how to motivate miners to fill up blocks; partial blocks when there's a backlog is pretty dumb.  Here's my thought; when a block is announced then look at the backlog and if the backlog is big enough then keep working on the pre-announced work trying to find a fuller block.  Orphaning partial blocks motivates the miners to fill up the blocks.  Full blocks will attract subsequent work and eventually build a longer chain.  Everyone on the fuller (and hopefully longer) chain wins; everyone on chains with partial blocks lose.

orphaning off blocks like that would cause more problems than solutions. the main result is the smaller miners who dont have hashpower will get orphaned off more, because they include less tx's to try gaining advantage against the large farms. making mining network less distributed and in favour of the large mining farms
21925  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it good or bad that Core development is virtually controlled by one company? on: February 04, 2016, 06:14:30 PM

You just make yourself look more and more ridiculous with every post.

Let's see how long your masters will pay you for your unsuccessful trolling attempts (their pockets are not really so deep).


i have no master. but your assumption that someone can't survive and make a living without one, shows that you do have a master and that you get paid and your mind cannot cope with the thought you you being independant.
please think outside of the box you are living in
21926  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Estranged Core Developer Gavin Andresen Finally Makes Sensible 2MB BIP Proposal! on: February 04, 2016, 06:11:49 PM

So why isn't Gavin going for 32MB instead of the 2MB (after he has downsized a few times)?


because he is following community demand. rather than personal choice.
it was the community that first said 2mb was acceptable.. gavin followed afterwards..

so dont make it out to sound like the community who want 2mb real blocks, are following gavin.. its the other way round.. gavins giving into the community
21927  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it good or bad that Core development is virtually controlled by one company? on: February 04, 2016, 06:05:06 PM

I see - so Gavin fans are also anti-gay.

Any other minorities you'd like to attack while you're at it?



see how CIYAM presumes anyone not blockstream loyal as being a gavin fanboy..

by the way a faggot is actually a scottish meatball.. but nice to see that you want to accuse non blockstreamers of being prejudice against people of differing sexual orientations..

come on mr brains. we know you and your 5 cohorts(6 total), lauda, carlton, icebreaker, to name just a few are all in the same small box





21928  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Estranged Core Developer Gavin Andresen Finally Makes Sensible 2MB BIP Proposal! on: February 04, 2016, 05:57:34 PM
I have been so done with the block fight I don't even know what segwit is and why it can't work with 2mb blocks, if it can then why not both?

As I understand it, SegWit and increased blocksizes are two completely separate issues. SegWit improves efficiency, and is the equivalent of a 2Mb blocksize, or better. It introduces a number of other possibilities as well. As there is no immediate need for a blocksize increase, it would be better to implement SegWit, and then see what is needed for the future. Who knows, maybe the Litecoin and Bitcoin chains should be combined to facilitate exchanges. Smiley

there was no immediate need for 1mb when blocks were only being made of less than 500k in 2009-2013.. but the setting was there at 1mb.. AS A BUFFER to allow for growth without any rush, or debate
21929  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Estranged Core Developer Gavin Andresen Finally Makes Sensible 2MB BIP Proposal! on: February 04, 2016, 05:45:01 PM
ill just leave this here because lauda deleted the post in the blockstream road map..

he doesnt want his blockstream disciples from seeing there is another way, that would prolong the buffer to allow more growth without endless upgrades from just one company.

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if only the (1) roadmap was more like this as the choices:

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Stop making up stupid figures about "the community" -

go on, say the words that there are not 1 million bitcoin users. then ill prove you wrong.. you first though
21930  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it good or bad that Core development is virtually controlled by one company? on: February 04, 2016, 05:38:10 PM
ill just leave this here because the blockstream fanboys delete any attempt to propose anything that is not their blind one way street roadmap

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if only the (1) roadmap was more like this as the choices:

21931  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it good or bad that Core development is virtually controlled by one company? on: February 04, 2016, 05:32:15 PM

Now provide proof of this or be considered to be the complete idiot liar that you are.


your blind loyalty to blockstream, that distracts you from logic.
21932  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Estranged Core Developer Gavin Andresen Finally Makes Sensible 2MB BIP Proposal! on: February 04, 2016, 05:28:24 PM
lauda thinks its a community vs blockstream.. and anyone in the community wanting 2mb must be deemed a threat and insulted as being a greedy banker or a cryptsy thieving toomin team..

over one million people in the community cannot all be greedy bankers or toomins.. (wake up lauda!! stop staring glazy eyed at your blockstream friends and see the rest of the world)

so how about 2mbsegwit.. 2 birds one stone.. seeing as how fullnodes need to upgrade in april anyway, and how it wont become consensus until 95%.. (imagining 2017-2018) it just sounds logical to have it all done in one upgrade ready for any possibility. rather than just a one way street. dominated by one company
21933  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it good or bad that Core development is virtually controlled by one company? on: February 04, 2016, 05:20:08 PM
but blockstream dont want buffer. they dont want room spare for open transactions, they want dominance, they want miners to have premium services and prices to allow transctions.

its not in their roadmap to have a buffer and room for growth.

Why do you spout such ignorant nonsense again and again and again?

You are probably being paid to do so but everyone now is aware of that (so don't expect you are going to continue to get paid for this nonsense for much longer).


i dont get paid.. but you do! but nice of you to redirect the attention off your ass kissing of the $55million blockstreamers, shame though, it didnt work
21934  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it good or bad that Core development is virtually controlled by one company? on: February 04, 2016, 05:15:56 PM
OK, so I'm a newbie who has just been reading a lot and trying to understand things. So here is my opinion.

We may need 2Mb blocks, but it's not urgent, and it may be that in the future we need 4Mb or more. Most blocks are half empty, so maybe what we really need are variable length blocks and more efficiency. There is too much "rubbish" in blocks that is not essential to money transfer - people are recording weddings for heaven sake, SigWit doesn't mean that we can't use 2Mb blocks, it just means that if we do, then the storage will be mofre efficient. Please explain to me why we can't implement SegWit in the short term. See what effect that has on transaction processing, and then decide a block size policy for the future.

many have proposed a 2mbsegwit (3.5-4mb real full archival data). that way its 2 birds with one stone.(giving into the segwit while also getting community desire for more buffer space to allow growth)

but blockstream dont want buffer space. they dont want room spare for open transactions, they want dominance, they want miners to have premium services and prices to allow transctions.

its not in their roadmap to have a buffer and room for growth.

without a buffer miners can charge more for transactions. with a buffer people dont need to pay fee's.
the whole fee income strategy blockstream want to impose is not actually needed for 20 years because the blockreward is enough compensation for miners. so this fee debate and twisting bitcoin in favour of higher fee's is a business decision and not a logical code/equipment cost decision
21935  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it good or bad that Core development is virtually controlled by one company? on: February 04, 2016, 04:50:50 PM
community Cheesy



21936  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it good or bad that Core development is virtually controlled by one company? on: February 04, 2016, 04:32:43 PM
he is now riding the community needs coke-tail..
Ha, ha! A good one! Yeah in 21th century nobody wears tailed coats. I'm quoting it for the future use.


"coke-tails".. means exhaust fumes.. it comes from the old analogy of people kissing ass driving/riding behind someone else not watching the road and just following the car infront.. i dont know where you dreamed up anything to do with coats(jackets)
21937  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it good or bad that Core development is virtually controlled by one company? on: February 04, 2016, 04:16:18 PM
you can circle jerk your link to all your friends on /r/bitcoin/ to garner votes in your favour all you want..

As I don't even use Reddit it is rather odd that you would state that (perhaps you are just overwhelmed with having to deal with facts that your not very used to having to do).

Let's face it @franky1 - your sponsors are not going to be paying you for much longer (as you have failed them).


i debunkd many of your examples.. and you cant debunk my examples. so instead you try to hurt my reputation. the laughable thing is that "franky1" is just a username..

so lets try this out.. lets hear some honest answers without you meandering into reputation crap.

1. with blockstream dominating what goes into the code. how is bitcoin (staying on the main chain, not talking about altcoins or other crap) still open for anyone to handle.. (and dont talk about anyone can make their own GUI. im talking about the underlying code)

2. how is bitcoin the same vision of financial freedom based on satoshi's genesis block quote (hating where corporations fucked up world finance), when one corporation has dominating control and is ignoring the community, to instead blindly do its own plan.

3. how is bitcoin going to be useful for 50% (non-westerners) of the world that blockstream are blind to, instead of the handful of businesses that blockstream will envision using bitcoin, thus forcing general population away from bitcoin and onto other stuff.

i do find it funny that while (i think) you are in china. you are ok with transaction fee's being the equivelent of 5% of an hour minimum wage. .. but imagine if you were in australia, 5% is the equivelent to 80cents..

would you be happy paying ATLEAST 5% of hourly wage just to make a transaction, come on.. imagine you had to pay ATLEAST 5% of an australian minimum wage.. then you might see beyond your own circumstance and see that you are blindly kissing ass to people that want to price out china, india and about 50% of the world from using bitcoin.
i honestly thought a man of the world that has been to china and india would atleast see beyond the western world pricing and the corporate overlords to atleast see the real world

P.S i am not sponsored by anyone. i hate gavincoin as much as i hate blockstream corporate shit. i just want bitcoin to grow without the shady tactics.
your blind loyalty to blockstream and hate of anything not blockstream shows you are sponsored
21938  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it good or bad that Core development is virtually controlled by one company? on: February 04, 2016, 04:01:24 PM
the community want 2mb.. not the corporate shit

They don't - http://bitcoinocracy.com/arguments/in-the-event-of-a-fork-i-will-sell-rbf-blockstream-core-coins-and-buy-classic-bitcoins.

You can carry on about "the community" but apparently they don't have any funds invested in BTC (so you think people that own zero BTC should make the decisions?).


you can circle jerk your link to all your friends on /r/bitcoin/ to garner votes in your favour all you want..

i really think that you must have financial investment in blockstream
are they paying you using some of the $55mill pot of cash, or giving you a few premined sidechains. or some of the non-chain liquids?
21939  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it good or bad that Core development is virtually controlled by one company? on: February 04, 2016, 03:53:41 PM
First this idiot says:

its not free!!

Then he follows it up with:

miners get multiple thousands of dollars worth of value every ~10 minutes.
transaction fee's do not need to be a revenue stream for atleast 2 decades

So then - why is not free if according to your own logic there is no need to charge for it for at least 2 decades?

I'm guessing you are going to say the only reason is that we don't have Gavin in charge and 2MB blocks?

Cheesy


because for the next 20 years the block reward covers costs..your blind mindset is that miners income is based on fee's..
seriously you lack logic.
and by the way im not a gavin fanboy.
the desire for 2mb is a community need way before gavin even mentioned it. even gavin disagreed with 2mb last year because he wanted 8-200mb(whatever it was).. he only settled on 2mb this year because the community wanted it first and he is now riding the community needs coke-tail..

it wasnt gavin that envisioned 2mb and the community followed gavin. it was the other way round.
so stop trying to make the whole community that wants 2mb into some crappy dirty corrupt crypptsy theifing toomin or some r3 bank loving gavincoin..

the community want 2mb.. not the corporate shit
21940  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it good or bad that Core development is virtually controlled by one company? on: February 04, 2016, 03:30:31 PM
It wasn't. Ever. Everyone who has ever tried has complained about how impractical it is for that purpose. The problem is the greed of freeloaders expecting to use a ridiculously expensive payment system for free.

its not free!!
miners get multiple thousands of dollars worth of value every ~10 minutes.
transaction fee's do not need to be a revenue stream for atleast 2 decades
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