Yes looks like someone is throwing the stone and hiding the hand. He deleted most of his posts. Thanks DireWolfM14, have been a pleasure. I add you to my roasted list, but remember that what happens on the internet stays on the internet. I'm collapsing my replies in a single post so he can't do anything to delete them reporting to a moderator as non-legit ups! There are so many little tricks going on this forum....

I think is the opposite, the thread is better than my original naked post since every of the accusation points got debunked. Now go and mind your business, we have no interest in working with people like you. The thread will stay and i will keep replying and upping if needed.


Thanks for the support mate, appreciated!



That's the starting punch mate, are you still on the ground for shifting the attack on my personal life choices? Do you want my background? i've always been an indie game developer, and as a indie life is hard, especially marketing. Maybe your friends want to work for a boss, i don't. I always wanted to build something truly mine, and that road is harder. Where do you see i'm begging for money?  I'm offering 5BTC investment opportunity to small liquidity providers. I'm trying to scale a business and make beneficial partnerships, i'm contacting small hedge funds and all kind of small liquidity providers. This is why this thread exists. You guys have seen so many scams that can't even recognize a valid proposal. Instead of shitting nonsense on my job and life, a smart person would have catched that there's a profitable opportunity with all evidences in place and would have TESTED it.

Also, do you think if i had a Legendary account i would be using my member account?   Do you have an idea how many times i got tagged as scammer simply because i'm only a member? i'm not gonna waste more time trying to get merit while i can code and actually build something.

It's not even funny anymore to debunk your accusations if they are so cheap

Did i say is a private key or did i say it can act as private key? Didn't i say that besides the key it's given access to email and password?

Can you use a private key to control funds on a wallet? YES
Can you use a api key to control funds on an exchange wallet? YES
Can an api key act as a private key? YES
Is an api key different than a private key? YES
Did i say an api key is the same as a private key ? NO

Should you focus on the thread proposition instead of pointing out something i didn't say ? definitely





Replies in BOLD.

I don't think it's hard to understand that option 1 requires a bit of trust, both from us and from the lender. While option 2 requires no trust since is impossible to run away with funds for us( but the client can). All risks are mitigated by the fact that both parties are incentivized to respect the deal.

So option 1 we take the risk of the lending and both us and the lender take the risk of gettin scammed.
The risk associated with option 2 is only for us, which is that the lender leaves without paying the commission.

if Math is not an opinion we have both the product and the risk in both options.


You should move that mirror out of the way then   Maybe you will start noticing the opportunity i'm presenting.
You don't think im legit? prove it. go to my thread, download the data, access the demo account via the provided api key and PROVE I'M HERE TO SCAM YOUR BITCOIN.

If you can't or simply not interested, just avoid posting. I'm not forcing anyone. Smart people will catch the opportunity in one of the several shapes


As for myself, more than building a thread with all kind of evidence and having a product that is killing it, there's not much more i can do other than replying to every single non-funded accusation. We are even fine in letting the lender have access to non only the loan but also to the profits generated by it. That's the level of confidence a great product can give. We have no problems even if they run away with the profits without the commission. We are trying to scale and smart people always pay the fee because they don't want the game to stop.

I'd start by saying that you have no idea what a quant shop is if you see any ponzi element in our business.

Secondly, an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key because it can be enabled for withdraw. Furthermore, on option 1 both lander and us have direct access to the account(mean password and email + api key).

As a quick recap, option 1 gives control to funds both to us and the lender, while option 2 gives control to funds only to the lender. In both options, the parties are incentivized to fulfill the deal.


Lastly, i would advise anyone that has no common knowledge in the space, to avoid posting stupid silly accusations because you can notice from my post history how much i like roasting ignorant people when they accuse me of scamming. But the ponzi part is new  


FUNNY how even giving loans while still accessing the funds and earning 5% monthly interest in "Mafia Style" is still a risk for the lender and i'd be a ponzi scammer.  

Lenders keep control of their funds via API KEY. Basically is RISK FREE , they could run away with all profits eventually. That's why it matters.
The only reasons why we offer this is because if they eventually "steal" the funds they basically steal their own and we lose only the generated profits.
At that point we hope people is smart enough to realize that they only hurt themselves, ruining their reputation and interrupting their risk free passive income

Hello,
i'm the manager of Arakne Quant Shop

You can find all info,data,stats,trade history, and API access to live demo account on the thread.


We are looking for liquidity providers to partner with in several ways:


1. Lender as service provider:
Lend us UP to 5BTC with 10% monthly payback + 5% monthly interest.
We can give API access + EMAIL +PASSWORD of the trading account managing the funds as collateral so you can always keep an eye on the funds.
This results in almost 30% risk free profit for the lender. 2 year of data shows the bot can easily handle the interest rate, please download and check for yourself.[/s]

2. Arakne as service provider:
Create and control your own account and let our bot manage it via API KEY enabled only for order creation. Pay us 30% of monthly net profit for the service and keep the 70% as pure profits.

3. Miscellaneous:
We can arrange a custom deal where the lender lowers the interest rates in exchange of fixed % of monthly generated profits.


I think that all of these options offer a nice balance between risk/profit for both parties.

REPUTABLE LENDERS ONLY

Hello, the bot is free to test 1 month, if you like it and want to keep it running,, only then you have to pay the commission.
No need to believe me, there are 2 years of data you can download and dig into + you can access the test account via the api key in the 2nd post to verify trades are legit and real.

Thanks! 

Interesting platform, polished UI.
i've played around with the auto-trading and backtest



Is not really a "trading bot" as much as it's an automated hodl management  system;D
I think this function will be useful for holders but not much for traders. The image above shows how simply holding for 2 years would have made 30% loss while with their algo you would have loss only 16% . Probably tweaking around would achieve better result as seen in here but we are still talking about 4.5% profit in 2 years.

Good job anyway!

Ps. i would avoid spamming the thread with fake newbies account because people notice it and ruins the good work put into the development.

Hello mate nice initiative you have in here!


#1 - What text should be present in the design?
ARAKNE FUND

#2 - Describe your business/brand/org/ICO/yourself in exactly one single word
Trading

#3 - What's your logo idea in exactly one sentence?
I'd like to blend a cool spider similar to the one i have in here with the trading world. I'm actually arachnophobic   so it shouldn't be too gross .. the idea is that the bot behaves just like a spider.. it builds its trap and patiently waits for the pray to fall into then it eats it alive.


#4 - Are there any pre-existing brand colors or preferred colors that should be present in the logo?
Not really, but i like green/white or green/black. Take a look at my thread design for reference
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182103

#5 - (optional) What's your (business) vision or motto?
Our Bot, Your Profit.


#6 - (optional) Preferred design style: A. Font-based B. Symbol/Icon-based C. Mascot?
I guess ... C  ? I actually need more the spider "icon" or "sprite" than the font based logo

 

And obviously after this thread i got hit by 15 deleted posts and i bet many more to come  




Funny little spineless human beings, am i right ?  

Well, my update thread for Nash it will be probably get eaten up  
oh boooy, how will i even survive, too bad for you i have backup

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Yes indeed, i had my answers. Any mod can close this !

I invite all people who are having fun reporting my posts right now to do their best to take down my future posts. i don't care about the past, you can have fun scrolling my 900+ post history if that what your life is up to.  

See ya all on 1st September with new thread, live test account with api keys, stats and testimonials.

bobby boy i reserve a first row spot like always for you 

Yeah, i'm also wondering why ON EARTH there are IDIOTS that decided to open quant shops and hedge funds.
Man just stop, you are ignorant and refuse to learn. You are ignoring one of the biggest industry of the world.
But in the end, does that matter for a minnow like you that achieved the maximum goal? The LEGENDARY membership!!
SORRY if i spend my time developing skills and applying them instead of sitting all day on forum shi##ing on other people work!!


I like roasting cocky fake intellectuals, and you proved to be one many times, and by a quick look at your posts history not only with me.




Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge[cit.]

Your points got debunked several times and all users that joined that discussion agreed with me and pointed out that you have very little knowledge in the space, and i quote:

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Yeah don't worry, you are allowed to bump your thread just delete the previous one and save the data in another post. easy!
By common sense is that my bumps will not be ugly as Loyce suggests, they will have value and will not break any rules while still upping my thread.
I know plenty of people will report it anyway, but at that point i wanna know which rule i broke . Is too easy to delete post without specifying the reason and letting the user figure out the why.

I was thinking the same things. This achieves the same result but with a lot of unnecessary work and without breaking the rules that in my opinion are wrongly interpreted.

But hey, if even using common sense, giving value to my bumps, and upping every 3 days i still have problems like this, better use the smart way i guess  




I'm not lecturing a self made legendary 
All i was saying is that rule is not being broken, but if you insist in considering the post examples in OP as non-valuable ups then rule 21 is broken.

No problem, my apologies.
Now I know how to trick rule 21 so i can up my threads like in every other forum.  Let's see if those get taken down too

(excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter)

So what are we talking about here? i'm allowed to up my thread like in every forum with some common sense of course.

That would quickly turn into a mess.
Also if i have an actual value to bring and reason to up my thread every 3 days i don't see why i shouldn't be allowed to do so, especially when most of people, as the user UmerIdrees pointed out, do savage ups without no consequences.

The difference is that I have you reporting all my posts because you got roasted and can't get over it

I agree with theymos' view, but he says "because they have no point" . If i'm managing a quant shop thread and every 3 days i want to show last trades, how can that have no point? How can it be better to delete previous post and create new one and loosing track of all example trades posted? i mean it doesn't make sense for me. I think that the old bumps rule reffers to threads where all last replies are
BUMP
UP
BUMP
+1

and none of them bring any kind of "new value"


Exactly this!