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221  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: June 13, 2018, 07:41:06 AM
Hello everyone!

I'm new to Bitcoin talk and only recently realised there was a NEM thread here. I've been working on a startup based on NEM and ProximaX in education for the last few months, and we have recently put forward a proposal for the NEM Community Fund.

I hope you will read the proposal, and if you like what we are proposing, voting for it!  There are 6 days left to vote.

If you are short on time (and who isn't?), we've developed a 1-page PDF here:
https://rocketshoes.io/rocketshoes-1-pager.pdf

Read on for a bit more info, further links and documents...

RocketShoes: a NEM-Powered digital asset platform for the future of education and work.

RocketShoes is an educational platform designed for a learner centric approach and providing powerful tools to manage content in a decentralised way. Learners will be able to produce and keep track of their own learning materials, including assignments, notes, and digital assets. Organisations can manage large amounts of content in a way that is not possible with today’s systems, allowing for radically new functionality, and deep integration with the Blockchain, using ProximaX as the storage layer.

Learn more about our proposal at: https://forum.nem.io/t/vote-now-community-fund-proposal-for-rocketshoes-a-nem-powered-digital-asset-platform-for-the-future-of-education-and-work/
🚀 Website: https://rocketshoes.io
White Paper: https://rocketshoes.io/whitepaper.html
Telegram Community: https://t.me/RocketShoes_Community
Twitter: http://twitter.com/rocketshoes_io

To vote YES, send 0 XEM to:
NB3HZIQSQGD7ZV73JWPASLIENNUL2H6AQ5SCEGB6

To vote NO, send 0 XEM to:
NCJ3EFL6FVGO6LR7HPQQUKFCRPQHMGWDVN4S2NYH

Many thanks for your consideration.  Smiley

Matt

I was about to share the proposal this morning. I really like the project and the idea behind it and I hope it gets the necessary POI rate to achieve the goal. Personally I think the voting system might have to change in the future. The yes/no vote should of a higher wait and maybe the POI % reduced. With the broader distribution I don't see many people voting since many don't even know that something like community proposals exist.
222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Alohaboy?! on: June 13, 2018, 07:34:45 AM
I think its a necessary step to facilitate the acceptance of crypto in shops. But do you have any % of how many people actually would like to be paid in fiat ? I would guess that a lot of people willing to accept crypto, will choose Bitcoin, which they are going to hold since the crypto payments aren't going to be a high % of their revenue

In some countries, for example in Russia, payment for crypto is already prohibited. PAYOUT TOKEN - bypass this law.

is this true ? Do you have any links to read further. I did not read about that specifically. But how would that payout token really bypass this law? Technically you still pay with graft, it only will make it easier for the shops to change your crypto in for fiat. Is there any info from the team about that ? Besides I really think that this will have a very high % of growth in the countries very open to crypto in general. Maybe in switzerland for example or malta.
223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: bisti on: June 12, 2018, 08:39:57 AM
I actually heard about the airdrop the first time. Was that something like a guarantee at the time of the ICO ? or just a very generous idea from the team ? Is there going to be an official statement from the team addressing the issue? some rumors aren't the best thing, since its designated to generate FUD in the future.  I would expect GRAFT to reach higher level since the team is doing a great work and the cryptopia listing or the super nodes are good milestones. But you have to keep in mind that the market is strongly depending on bitcoin and the overall sentiment. It might get hard to reach new highs in a year long bear market

Best this team can do is to burn this damned extra stash instead of airdropping it.


I share your opinion, but therefore it would be interesting to know whether this was some sort of insurance during the ICO. But as I said I didn't heard something like this before. I am sure that there are some frustrated people after the ICO because the price performed very bad. But that is something ever ICO investors should be aware off upon investing. There is no such thing as guaranteed profit.

NEW ELEMENT OF GRAFT ECOSYSTEM – PAYOUT TOKEN

https://www.graft.network/2018/06/07/introducing_payout_token/

I think its a necessary step to facilitate the acceptance of crypto in shops. But do you have any % of how many people actually would like to be paid in fiat ? I would guess that a lot of people willing to accept crypto, will choose Bitcoin, which they are going to hold since the crypto payments aren't going to be a high % of their revenue
224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ENDED][BOUNTY](1,500,000 $)TRAXIA - First Cardano Investment on: June 12, 2018, 08:32:20 AM
Traxia team is working hard and fulfilling its promises, bounty distribution is scheduled between 10th June18 to 16 June18, I wish TMT tokens trade at a good price after allocations of TMT tokens.

I have no doubt that everything will work like planned. You might start worrying after the 16th of June and not before. The bounty management was very well done and I don't see any reason that there should be any problem.
TMT is already listed on cmc https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/traxia/ and therefore traded with quite a good volume. I suspect the price to drop slightly with the bounties been paid but that is totally normal
225  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: June 12, 2018, 08:27:26 AM
So in my last posts I was highly critical of nem and the lack of exposure/interest.
Is anyone else not concerned?
We have a extremely low volume, easily the lowest in the top 30
Nem Reddit sub is dead
Nem Bitcoin talk is dead save for a few regular posters
Nem official forms are even worse than the 2 above as far as being dead.

The meetups are good I guess. But I don't see how you're going to grow a huge user base 15-20 people at a time in random cities.

Just a list of concerns that really bother me about this coin. I want it to succeed and do well, but I'm frustrated by the lack of forward thinking and exposure.
I've held a large amount of coins for 3 years. I expect things to get better not worse. Instead of fading into obscurity I'd like to see relevance. Hype, hope, excitement.. something as opposed to the nothing we have currently. People are indifferent about this coin.. and that needs to change. If I had all the answers I'd post them. But I don't. At the end of the day it's the foundation's responsibility to ensure this coin succeeds. I hope they can do it.

I am not concerned at all. The entire crypto-space has been filled with talking, promises, whitepapers, ideas and vaporware for some time now.

Action, true development and forward progress is what matters and the NEM team is actually working.

I can only share your opinion. NEM is achieving great things and the Team always was and maybe always will be a team that delivers first before talking much about it. Just look at the whitepaper of some of the top coins. You can be happy if the inventions are not just copy paste from other coins. I am more confident than I ever was with NEM and the Team. The projects build on NEM are developing great, Catapult is getting better each day and more and more people are joining. I really don't know where all your FUD comes from
226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MAX] MAXcoin - PoW, ASIC Resistance, Keccak GPU Mining on: June 11, 2018, 08:48:42 AM
Its not bad coin, i like it, but guys, please add your coin to any normal exchange like CryptoBridge for example. I'm not personally like it, but it much better than YoBit.

This is dead project people already lost their interest look over the volume on exchanges because of bad reputation of these exchanges. But if you want to keep this as fun than it is nice to stake little amount in it and forget about this. If you are lucky than it will work nice for you.

on coinmarketcap, minable coins, is at 119 place from 567 coins. it is a working project

Most people actually believing in this project are bag holders who lost a lot of money with this coin. There is no development or any other reason to believe in this coin. The only option to rise is some pump and dump from some whales to create even more bag holders. The project was bad from the beginning and nothing more than a way of enrichment of a few on the back of many others
227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: bisti on: June 11, 2018, 08:44:59 AM
I have few questions for GRAFT TEAM since here they can't delete posts and ban people for asking questions - like they do on reddit page:

1) why isnt there official announcement about team planing to give ICO buyers huge airdrop, if price stays as low as now? There are rumors ICO buyers got email that team will give them 6x airdrop since price is now 6x lower than in presale. Shouldnt investors know that market will be flooded with hundreds of millions of coins?

2) when is that airdrop going to happen?

3) what was number of coins sold during ICO and where will  airdrop bonus come from? If there was like 100 millions coins sold during ICO, where will 600 million coins airdrop come from?

4) was network under some kind of attack? During last cca 10 days there was about 10 million coins mined. I dont think thats normal for 4 cents coin.

5) why arent there any possible dates about updates, there is absolutely zero knowledge about future of this project, not a single update on pages like coinmarketcal or tothemoon, no idea when will ANYTHING be ready or launched, absolutely nothing about exchanges. Do you think thats normal behaviour toward investors or potential investors?

6) doesnt SEC worry you since this is exact bullsh*t with your airdrop, that they want to stop in crypto?

7) why was my questions deleted from reddit page and I got banned for asking those questions?
1)2)3) there was no announcement about the airdrop because it is very unlikely to happen, and the effect on circulating supply is expected to be minimal if it does happen. The airdrop will occur in December if the exchange price has not reached the ICO price at any time before then. The airdrop amount will only be enough to make up the difference between the ICO price and the exchange price in December. If the airdrop is necessary, it will consist of unsold ICO coins. There were only about 22,000,000 coins sold in the ICO. The price of GRFT is expected to reach the ICO price by December or at least be close enough to make this a non-issue. There are significant milestones and new exchange listings coming before then.

4) current emission is over 1 million per day. That’s normal. You can look at the emission curve on the front page of this thread.

5) there are updates every time that there is something to update. Supernode release and Cryptopia exchange listing were recently added to coinmarketcal by a community member. That’s how that works. If you want updates shared on 3rd party websites then you have to add them. Those types of websites rely on community submissions. The GRAFT team is not responsible for adding updates to everyone’s favorite websites. The team posts official updates on the blog, Twitter, Telegram, Reddit, and here. If you don’t see the updates then you aren’t looking for them. You can also subscribe to the mailing list on the website so you’ll receive an email every time an update is posted to the blog.

6) GRFT is not a security. The GRAFT project does not have investors or shareholders. You’ve never been led to believe otherwise.

7) you didn’t post “questions” on Reddit. You basically just threw a rage-quit temper tantrum and shared a lot of fud on the way out. I then reviewed all of your posts and comments on r/graft and saw that every single one of them was derogatory. This raises questions about the real motive for your posts. In any case, hostility, fud, and any toxic behavior that could be detrimental to the GRAFT project are not welcome in the GRAFT community.
Questions are fine, tirades are not.

I actually heard about the airdrop the first time. Was that something like a guarantee at the time of the ICO ? or just a very generous idea from the team ? Is there going to be an official statement from the team addressing the issue? some rumors aren't the best thing, since its designated to generate FUD in the future.  I would expect GRAFT to reach higher level since the team is doing a great work and the cryptopia listing or the super nodes are good milestones. But you have to keep in mind that the market is strongly depending on bitcoin and the overall sentiment. It might get hard to reach new highs in a year long bear market
228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obsidian ODN - CryptoCurrency & Secure Anonymous Messaging on: June 11, 2018, 08:39:26 AM
Thanks for posting that Andro! Here's the info.

In the following we’ll provide a brief overview for the reasons for the upcoming split, as well the vision of ODIN.

During the process of working on Obsidian, the team realised they were utilizing only a small fraction of the potential that was possible from our project. In addition, many new technologies emerged as this whole field continues to mature.

The former development team's strategy was to adapt a centralized, non-crypto/blockchain based messenger into a decentralized, crypto supporting and blockchain based secure messenger. However, it became crystal clear that the original Obsidian project could be expanded far, far beyond this limited objective.

We could become a complete open source, mobile based development platform ecosystem with a privacy mandate. One that was ideally placed to target decentralized blockchain projects in a unique, compelling human-centered way; an ecosystem which encapsulates all our core values.

These realizations coming to light, coupled with the several deficiencies encountered during audits on ODN, led us on this new path. One where we could fix all the mistakes from the past, and which would allow us to create a stronger, much more future-proof foundation.

Thus, Odin was born.

To work on this much larger scope, we have brought in a new Odin core development team that had a much greater understanding of our key issues and who are much more capable in accomplishing this expanded vision than Obsidian's original core team.

They have completely revised and redesigned the old system, and are implementing a much more robust, cohesive and agile blockchain which enables us to meet our expanded vision both in terms of quality as well as rate of progression.

They have put decentralization, the coin, the blockchain platform first, as to have a solid foundation for further applications and other software to be built upon.

We will therefore soon release ODIN which is a uniquely human-centered blockchain development platform, that will hold community at its core much more than what we originally could have envisioned.
However, the release of ODIN does not mean we will pull all support from ODN. As a chain started by OPL, we consider it our responsibility to keep it viable and alive. Therefore, as part of our commitment to the ODN community we will continue to provide support and improve on this chain as well.

-Pete


Thanks for the major update. I am curious to see  how all this turns out. I am following the discord channel and I really like the steady updates and the ongoing discussion with the community. Also the contests are a great way in my eyes to be in direct contact.

Is there any comparisons of major targets in regards of other competing projects? Since the split did in fact cost some time and it would be great to see how it is planned find the necessary and fitting niche
229  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ANN: ELIXIR (ELIX) Crowdfunding, Lending and Payments Platform on: June 10, 2018, 09:51:55 AM
ELIX is featured in Forbes! Please share the post across all your individual social channels.

That is really amazing. This only underlines the absolute great work from the team and the ongoing development. Very interesting read and will share it definetly.

 
Hello Elixir believers,

Our aim is to add value to the whole crypto community by giving the best user experience to analyse cryptocurrencies.

It would be really great help from your side if you can spend 60 seconds of your time and give us your valuable feedback for our two recent updates 1) Snapshot and 2) Colourful interface of Elixir at: https://cointopper.com/coin/elixir

Constructive criticisms are always welcome at CoinTopper.  Thank you!!

The interface is good. What does this mean: "Snapshot"?

The interface is well looking indeed. I actually never heard about the website in the first place. Is it planned as some sort of CMC alternative?
230  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: June 10, 2018, 09:45:49 AM
NEM vs Ethereum: why do we migrate of Blockchain in Tutellus? #blockchain #NEM #Ethereum #Education



https://medium.com/tutellus-io/nem-vs-ethereum-why-do-we-migrate-of-blockchain-in-tutellus-2e823526fb19

also new members at NEM




"We consider #FMT part of the @NEMofficial team now" ~ Raf Bergola #FMT Co-founder http://ow.ly/Iz8d30knz2d
Free Market Token


tutellus might be the best example why it can be very rewarding for a project to switch from ETH to NEM. I really like the idea and their development approach. Very curious how this turns all out in the future.

Do you know whether there is some kind of writeup of the youtube interview? would be glad to have it since it woeful be easier to share. Either way thanks for sharing, interesting watch.

They only ask 1 btc to get listed  Wink

So it's not decentralised then.

If you look it that way neither exchange is fully decentralized. Always somebody most release new software with bug fixes or maintain web site. What i meant in decentralized is exchange

without obligation to get verified account through personal information. Why somebody must have verified account just to trade 100-200$ monthly in BTC.

I think undergoing KYC procedures to be able to trade is the thing DEX really are going to change. Those are really sensible information which sure could be used hacked too for example. (although all exchanges deny it)
231  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TRAXIA (TMT) - 1st project invested by Cardano Hub - 1st ICO to accept ADA on: June 10, 2018, 09:39:05 AM
IS gate.io exchange absolutely confirmed and if yes when will the trading pair be available on their exchange?
I think they are contacting or making a decision for it they made a three choice for now bibox, kucoin, and gate. As the telegram many prefers it to kucoin im also like that exchange compare to thos other two. Let's wait for their official release what exchange is it.

Traxia is now listed in coinmarketcap.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/traxia

Edited

great,, at least now this token at CMC
and there is only https://www.hotbit.io as the exchange in two pairs ETH and BTC
but, its not a bad start for Traxia

Nice to see Traxia listet on CMC that fast. That is really a cool thing. I think kucoin would be the most famous and in regards of volume best   exchange to be listed on of those three. Either way having traxia listed that early one one of them is a success. Very well done from the team and I cannot wait for the ongoing development
232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] DIMCOIN The Future Of Equity on the Blockchain on: June 09, 2018, 07:51:52 AM
How much is the dividend? And get I that too when I store on Hitbtc wallet?  can I store my DIM tokens on my Ledger or MEW?

No mew it's nem mosaic not erc 20 - you cannot store in mew.

1.) dividend is dependant on amount of fees that are earned.
2.) dividend earnings are distributed amongst DIMtoken holders, not dimcoin holders.
3.) no, tokens would need to be stored on a NEM address to receive dividends.

But since Trezor is supporting NEM, one of the best ways would to store the token there. You have to just hold them and receive your dividend safely to your hardware wallet. The amount of fees will increase greatly with the official launch of the HYSBE soon. dimCOIN holder will still not participate in the dividends as written above. Its exclusive to Token holders.
233  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] BITDEGREE - Revolutionizing education with blockchain on: June 09, 2018, 07:48:00 AM
also depends on the country and company you want to apply with this certificate, austria for example is still old-economy/university driven, we wont see use of those online certificates for another 5-10 years i guess, whereas the US is way more progressive with these things already

Many countries in the euro zone are very konservative regarding changes. The really love their old system because the people responsible for regulation are mostly old guys too. I would really appreciate someone farsighted in ruling portion right now. But I think those countries will miss the train. But sometimes it´s good to be the one chasing to really enhance the ecosystem as a whole too later on
234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: June 09, 2018, 07:32:35 AM
partners are building and deploying on the #NEM blockchain. Not speculation, not whitepapers. But actually building AND deploying. Is your company set up for success? Choose wisely.

https://t.co/OMRQTMmnVS

another big  exchange

with big NEM volume

 Grin Grin Grin Grin

https://www.coinsuper.com/#/home

Coinsuper is a Hong Kong based Crytpo exchange founded in 2017.

NEM is becoming more and more global! Be part of and stay connected to any of the active NEM communities around the globe! Join our group chats to stay connected: https://github.com/Sateetje/awesome-nem-telegram

https://github.com/Sateetje/awesome-nem-telegram

I agree, its now starting to get hard to keep track of all the high quality projects that are starting to build on NEM and make a difference.
There is also a few Ethereum projects switching over to NEM because they simply cant make it work on ETH.

It's weird how the market seems immune to good news. I have to laugh about those Ethereum projects switching to NEM because they simply can't make it work on ETH. I can't even successfully run an ETH wallet, let alone an entire project! And somewhere on my hard drive are two copies of the ETH block chain, but I can't actually find them, because they're not stored in the usual place, and it's not clear where they are... but my hard drive is about full because of it. How that coin is so popular I'll never understand!

Its just too easy to start a token on ETH. Everyone is just using the buzzword Ethereum and smart contract to attract the users. But i really think less than 1% of all ERC20 will actually code more or are even capable of coding more than the creation of the contract (and that's far off from coding) The online real thing which was moving the NEM price are some catapult release news or the normal new exchange pump. But I think institutional holders and whales are accumulating at these levels right now and noticing all the news
235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Terracoin (TRC) - Est 2012 on: June 08, 2018, 08:24:19 PM
Should I mine this coin now?

You can if you like, but it is SHA256 so you will need an ASIC miner.  You can merge mine it with other merge minable coins.  Once we introduce multi-algo it will make it much easier for the average person to get into the mining side of things.

really looking forward to the integration. It might be quite hard right know to mine it, which makes it somewhat unattractive for a lot of especially newcomers. I really love the project and the vision and I think that could really give it a good push in the future. I really have to say, that I very like the frequent and steady updates!
236  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: June 08, 2018, 08:21:10 PM
I bought 20 000 XEM coins and became a holder

Warm welcome to the board now we are at same ship I think this is good amount which could change your life and it will help you to make huge profit in future if keep approach as long term. This project is still undervalued while some big features are planned to launch soon.
In the long term, such a contribution can really make a person a millionaire. You just need to be able to wait for the right moment. Then the price will soar and you can safely take profits.

I think everything above 10k XEM is quite a good amount for the future. It gives you the chance to harvest, which is not very profitable right now, but you never know what the future brings. If really wide adopted with all blocks being full, its very nice to have the possibility to start with it. 20K could sure lead to a good ROI in the future, although a millionaire might be quite optimistic
237  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 👑 MTV 👑-Multiversum-4°Generation Relational Blockchain [PRE-ICO] [LIVE] on: June 07, 2018, 08:11:32 AM
Multiversum continues to participate in the expansion of consumer knowledge about the possibilities of Blockchain and new developments. I think the article involving technical project Director will help readers make the right conclusions about new technologies.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewarnold/2018/06/04/how-gdpr-and-changing-legislation-will-impact-digital-advertising/#6e869c4e1a50
The EU continues to monitor new technologies. I am sure that the development would fit in harmoniously Multiversum idea of general regulations of data protection. The research project will be able to demonstrate competence in the sphere of vote.
A very important point in GDPR:
-Data privacy is a right for all.
-All identifying data must be protected.
I think Multiversum is able to provide those needs. Network generation Multiversum will match all criteria that are important to government organizations.

Systems of finance, health, States will be able to apply blockchain technology. Pilot projects for different States speak about the interest of a broad society. Prior to the project's launch, the team already has many partners. 

I really like to see that amount of partnerships even before the ico finishes. I am really looking forward to their cooperations, especially since they will use Proximax as an decentralized storage solution which indeed could go big, since that is something centralized institutions thrive for. Would be glas to have more information about the hungarian treasury pilot as well. Those are really all amazing news
238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ALQO][XLQ] PoW/PoS 0,17% Premine | 100% Governance | Exchange: Bitfineon on: June 07, 2018, 08:06:27 AM
Should create more hype in the crypto community about the Bitfineon exchange, feels like almost noone knows anything about alqo or bitfineon. Need marketing and awareness.

You are right, a bit more hype around upcoming Bitfineon would be great. The Bitfineon itself will be an attractive selling proposition, there not so many coins (tokens) with fully working meaningful product even in top100 market cap coins.

The CMC ranking does not really reflect the actual value of the project or the development. you are right that most higher projects have less achieved and sometimes are just overhyped. The use of ALQO with Bitfineon is great and gives some more demand, but you have to keep in mind that its a centralized exchange. Centralized exchanges generate not that kind of hype as it used to ( except binance). I hope the Exchange gets well adapted and fitting itself well in the ecosystem
239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: June 07, 2018, 08:01:07 AM
Vechain about to pass us. Binance coin not far behind it.

you don't have to forget that more and more projects are coming to live and they receive sometimes more than overvalued market caps. NEM is table quite a good time now at around .25$ and it doesn't need much to climb some positions. If you take projects like Tezos for example. No doubt it could slit in the top 10 and giving every other projects one rank lower than right now. Its just not saying much about the development or the project itself.



That is really good news. Bithump is great since the main traders there are aware of NEM and will sure be one of the leading groups in the next rise
240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: June 06, 2018, 09:14:47 AM
It is normal that WINGS is losing community, why should not lose it? As i said before, there is no sense to keep forecasting new projects if they don't pay rewards. Forecasting is just exposing your capital to more and more risk everyday with potential losses as you own WINGS tokens. ( and obviously it is just speculation, we all know what ICOs will do in the near future)

you are saying nonsense,
first you say there is no rewards since 1 year: FALSE
now you say that we risk to lose our wings: FALSE
please read more about wings before

Maybe you should start to read before saying no sense phrases? Smiley

Look how many rewards there were in the last months.
I never said you can lose your wings, i said you could have losses if you own wings, that is true if the price goes down.
There is too much risk to own a coin that will disappear in the future, for what? forecast and..? The r/r ratio is very bad here in my opinion.


It is true that holding WINGS was probably not the best idea in the past weeks or months in regards of potential return, unless you invested in the ICO. But that's the same with nearly ever other project out there.  Sure the forecasting doesn't seem that attractive in the longterm. And that's quite a problem in my eyes too. Its only very rewarding with a huge stash of Wings and that has to be higher than the potential returns of selling higher and buying back in lower too
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