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221  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AИN] NODE - 2n Gen. CryptoCurrency build from SCRATCH on NODE.JS - Brand NEW! on: August 17, 2014, 02:01:44 PM
Where I can trade NODE?

The community is aiming to trade node on bter.com!

You can vote here: https://bter.com/voting

I'm never gonna grade at bter again. They lost a lot of credibility during recent hack

https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/three-solutions-proposed-by-bter-com-(200btc-deal-or-310btc-bounty-or-fork)/

https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/forgers-have-been-faced-with-a-choice/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740147.0

And I think it wasn't the first time. It might as well have been an inside job.

Better watch out for some quality exchange, develop your own fiat gateway or try to use nxt AE multigateway.

agreed bter is just as good as dead.

I'm curious.  Poloniex was hacked in March.  Why aren't they dead and why are people still using them?  Mintpal was hacked as well wasn't it?  So out of the remaining exchanges that NODE could get on, maybe Cryptsy or Bittrex (shit coin and pump and dump haven) could be used as most others seem to have no serious volume or simply wouldn't take a new coin.


nxt multigateway is the most sensible way forward in such a situation.

taken from nem thread.. its the smartest and cheapest way forward.. (no trading fees bar transaction fees)

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the sooner NEM can be untied to NXT, the better..

what is happening with NXT right now is another good lesson to learn from.. well first of all the lesson is don't get hacked if you're an exchange and secondly, don't perform a rollback or hardfork for an exchange. it would just blemish the reputation of your coin, ala the great Vericoin bailout of '14.



This wasn't a fault of the coin though. It was the exchange.

This is why it's important nem gets on a number of equally popular exchanges on release. One exchange monopolizing the volumes can go belly up if they make even a simple mistake.
it is possible to set up and run our own multigateway for nxt WE so that people can trade with out worry of a central point of failure. All we need is for nem to support multisig and some to set up the servers then just 3 highly trusted people from nem to host the servers. I think after recent events it would be a very good idea to give people this option straight of the bat.

Do you not have to worry about those servers getting hacked then though and someone siphoning off trades midstream? (disclaimer - I know noting)

3 people will be in control of a server each.. as long as you trust that the 3 members will not collude to steal the funds with in the servers then your coins are safe.. as far as i know, all three servers would need to be hacked simultaneously in order for someone to steal the coins.. its not entirely decentralized, but it is magnitudes safer than traditional exchanges... preferably you get people with a vested interest in the said currency/platform to be in control of the servers.

for example in nxt, its going to be james, the owner of nxthaus (new nxt exchange in the making) and cant remember  who else.. the reason these were chosen as the right people is because they all have a huge vested interested in not stealing the coins.. james has coded the damn thing and has a reputation to protect and is also heavily invested in nxt and multigateway assets and therefore has to protect the interests of the buyers of MGW asset.

the owner of nxthaus would never mess with servers as he has a vested interest in being seen as trustworthy, cos if hes not, no one will use his new exchange. the same applies for the other guy ie. high vested interest or is very trustworthy already.

you only have to trust that 2 of the 3 wont collude.. one malicious server maintainer cannot steal the funds alone.. he may be able to fek up multigateway so it stops working but funds cannot be stolen or accounts miscalculated. so even if one entity isnt trust worthy your coins are still safe..

if centralised exchanges used multigateway for their back end stuff, the odds of these hacks stealing millions would not be a concern any longer..


This is not so good idea, let's stop trading one coin through the another one coin
NODE haven't any relation with nxt

just stop promotion nxt in every big coin thread, ok ?
As well, I don't think that it is very good idea to trade NEM and of course NODE in nxt AE, cause it hurts NEM(and other coins) when nxt like ussualy has problem- OK?

Developers of any new coin should think of ways how to prevent such scenarios in the future. That's not just nxt promotion. We should consider every alternative to centralized exchanges.
222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AИN] NODE - 2n Gen. CryptoCurrency build from SCRATCH on NODE.JS - Brand NEW! on: August 17, 2014, 10:36:51 AM
Where I can trade NODE?

The community is aiming to trade node on bter.com!

You can vote here: https://bter.com/voting

I'm never gonna grade at bter again. They lost a lot of credibility during recent hack

https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/three-solutions-proposed-by-bter-com-(200btc-deal-or-310btc-bounty-or-fork)/

https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/forgers-have-been-faced-with-a-choice/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740147.0

And I think it wasn't the first time. It might as well have been an inside job.

Better watch out for some quality exchange, develop your own fiat gateway or try to use nxt AE multigateway.
223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Impact of NXTs 50mill theft on other 2.0s? on: August 16, 2014, 11:02:55 AM
It was the fault of a centralized exchange, not of nxt technology. It might aswell have been an inside job. The only impact it should have is that people don't trust centralized exchanges no more.

Nxt's distribution, while not actually a part of its technology, has always been one of its biggest weaknesses. This new hack will probably worsen this perception.

Distribution is not only a nxt related problem, it's a cryptocurrency one in general. It doesn't matter if you have 73 or 2000 initial stakeholders. Even 10000 is a small number compared to the people on earth.
224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AИN] NODE - 2n Gen. CryptoCurrency build from SCRATCH on NODE.JS - Brand NEW! on: August 16, 2014, 10:12:17 AM
NODE devs must be careful in choosing the exchanges to work with. IMO atleast avoid now BTER and NXT AE and MGW regarding that situation with hacker.

BTER got hacked not Nxt Wink

Yes. AE and MGW are great alternatives to centralized exchanges.
225  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Storj - Decentralized Storage on: August 16, 2014, 10:06:25 AM
What if you don't raise the 9800 btc?
226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Impact of NXTs 50mill theft on other 2.0s? on: August 16, 2014, 10:00:03 AM
It was the fault of a centralized exchange, not of nxt technology. It might aswell have been an inside job. The only impact it should have is that people don't trust centralized exchanges no more.
227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: bter hacked and lost 50m nxt on: August 16, 2014, 09:37:21 AM
Silence from bter since 9+ hours
228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: August 16, 2014, 09:35:07 AM
i don't want bter exchange dead. anyone have some good ideas to help bter?

I think it's dead already. Even if it gets the funds back. No way to recover from  this. They will never see a single nxt from me again.
229  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: bter hacked and lost 50m nxt on: August 15, 2014, 07:07:10 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralization
230  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: bter hacked and lost 50m nxt on: August 15, 2014, 04:10:52 PM
If they survive they won't see a single nxt from me anymore
231  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: August 15, 2014, 04:07:34 PM


BTER on Twitter: We have decided not to rollback but get the stolen funds back from the hacker since we have got lots of information of him.
https://twitter.com/btercom/status/500301278027608064




Who they think they are to decide wether to rollback or not?
232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: bter hacked and lost 50m nxt on: August 15, 2014, 02:42:45 PM
If you roll it back, NXT is definitely not decentralized.
This will make it centralized and even more useless.

Bullshit. A rollback can only happen if the majority of the forgers decide to do so. That's a democratic process and has nothing to  do with centralisation
233  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AИN] NODE - 2n Gen. CryptoCurrency build from SCRATCH on NODE.JS - Brand NEW! on: August 15, 2014, 02:07:33 PM
Voting on Bter is going great https://bter.com/voting

But we also need to send them direct messages through ticket system http://support.bter.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
Everybody please choose "New coin to Consider" type of request, write few words and send.

BTER is probably dead pretty soon  Angry

https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/forgers-have-been-faced-with-a-choice/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740147.0
234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AИN] NODE - Official Discussion Thread! Distributing the coins! on: August 12, 2014, 10:39:04 AM
For anyone interested, I'm selling my stake for 0.5 BTC because I need some money...

Node Buy / Sell Thread
235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ORA:: Logo submission & discussion thread on: August 12, 2014, 07:21:40 AM

Here's my vote:

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236  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AИN] NODE - Official Discussion Thread! Distributing the coins! on: August 12, 2014, 06:25:33 AM
Getting a 404 when trying to download.

We disabled, wait for the next version
237  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AИN] NODE - Official Discussion Thread! Distributing the coins! on: August 11, 2014, 06:42:36 AM
# Announcement!


After a short break we are back!

We changed our schedule, now we will be online 12 hours a day/7 days a week!

Any Technical question to be addressed to SillkRoad!




There were made significant changes in all the organizational structure of our team! We made huge progress, and we are ready to announce that:

Monday 11/08 13:00 BTT TIME ZONE - THE CLIENT WILL BE RELEASED
238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ORA::100% POS|Qora Clone|Free & Fair distribution|issued NXT AE ASAP on: August 08, 2014, 12:29:45 PM
guys, please a question: I was trying to sell 1000 top distribution in the next wallet. My balance is 1000 but when I try to sell them, it says " not enough funds". Then I tried to sell 100 Ora but it's the same. This wallet is very unfriendly for me. Does someone know what " not enough funds" mean? I m holding my stake, I d like just to know how the wallet works. Thanks in advance for the reply

Do you have NXT in your account? you need 1 nxt for the transaction

thanks to all for the replies. Any nxt faucet address? Thanks again

http://nxtra.org/faucet/
239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AИN] NODE - Oficial Discussion Thread! Distributing the coins! on: August 03, 2014, 01:08:11 PM
I get NODE Account # 12336957661887674448

My number in the list is #15641667066091303754

And I dont have the password wrong, I already made that mistake with NEM, I may have lost my NEM stake because of it. Patmast3r said he will try to help me, but thats another story.

I copied the password from a text file this time, and pasted it in when I made my account. I am pasting in the same password from the same text file.

I am coming up with different Acct number than what is in the list and what I had typed in my text file.

I am having the worst luck with my stakes in these things.

That's the same problem nxt people have again and again.
The same password always returns the same account number. Sometimes when copy and paste from textfiles it adds additional whitespace or it fucks up special characters and so on.
Try to type it manually.

Don't use text editors for passwords! Use some password manager like keepass or Safe in Cloud
240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: BTC -> NODE - Trade Topic on: August 02, 2014, 10:41:36 AM
Want to sell 1 stake Node (598894 Coins)

Price:  4 BTC or equivalent of NXT

You send first or escrow

PM me if interested
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