Oh No whats happening the ECM has gone squared lol
NAS new highs - SP500 new highs - EU50 new highs - Germany new highs -
tbond yields sinking to new lows- please don't mention this as they bottomed in 2015 really
Wheres the mutton chops that was thanking marty for all his great work with the ecm....disappeared, alex and the rest have gone too amazingly
Meanwhile in the grotto in Florida and Pattaya Marty is devilishly working on a new email address and login here........
Just waiting for the dow to hit new highs now.
So who's for 30 pieces of silver ?, ?judas maybe lol
lets file a group case against marty and supposition him to stop stealing peoples money and losing it.......I think a group complaint to the florida authorities would be a great start......
Let's hope that some people start to realize that litigation is actually feasible, depending on what one would look at. In my own view, and this view has guided me for the time I was researching the facts, the focus should not primarily be that his predictions were wrong and that people have lost money because of this. Although we all know that he is an incompetent crackpot. Any litigation from this angle could perhaps be defeated with his small print disclaimers in his various publications. Note that I am not a lawyer. The focus should be on the indisputable fact that he has been deceiving people on a massive scale with lies, and that his fraudulent claims where he typically alters the facts in hindsight add up to a massive body of evidence: Fraudulent misrepresentation of performance of his products and services, which he charges a lot of money for. I don't think there is a case where fraud becomes legal just because it is labelled with some fine print giving the criminal the Get Out of Jail Free card. It would be interesting to see everything unravel in court where they would definitely find out that he never advised governments and large institutions as he claims. Who on earth would ever want to have a convicted felon as an advisor of a large organization? That would be negligence, total lack of due diligence. Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed. Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud. See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog |
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BTFD  Please send $15 for my next BTFD forecast, lol. All joking aside, Big miss in my book for Marty. I believe it should of been temp high not peak, isn't there a difference? You were right. That was the perfect fit for the Self-fulfilling Financial ForecastMartin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed. Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud. See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog |
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Armstrong tinkering with his Wikipedia article Let's look at the history and then click on the numeric IP address and then look up Geolocate then there is no surprise because it is in St. Petersburg Florida where he lives  He is doing exactly what so many people are saying: He changes the facts in hindsight to fit his narrative. In other words, he is a liar. Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed. Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud. See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog |
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So if I throw darts and randomly hit a bulls eye, am I awesome?
I can draw a plotted line too and say something may happen during that time. If it does will I be awesome?
As you said, he has been wrong many times and we gets its right, he is awesome?
Let's call a spade a spade: DanB1's type of reasoning is what an ordinary person would call "corrupt". With the added twist of course that what CaymanJack says about the randomness of it is absolutely true, plus that the market movement we see is too small to be outside of the margin of noise. It is not even a small correction. We are less than 3% from the high. So now let's see whether we can decline another 30% from here. So far it's a joke. Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed. Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud. See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog |
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According to our research discovering The Myth of the Martin Armstrong Global Cooling Prediction we are at least 12 years early with the onset of any diseases that would align with his cycle that would peak in 2032. Meanwhile, he has shifted the goal posts after he discovered that real scientists predicted global cooling at an earlier date than he did, and he plagiarized these research results. At the same time we can say that again it is all hindsight because he did not during the last few years predict any event such as this flu event. So it is all bullshit once again. I wonder how many people he can impress with this - who really wants to know, and who can really benefit from his ramblings in any way? Honestly, what is the benefit? Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed. Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud. See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog |
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This ECM turning point thing is a non-event. Total bullshit as always. Nobody cares about it. You guys are deluded. Buying an illusion. I laugh my head off when I see people discussing it. The market sold off a little because of the virus. The virus is not even aligned with what Martin Armstrong's fear mongering is about - climate, recession, where traditionally EPIDEMICS were more likely (but not a small flu like thing as this one). So here we are again, total bullshit and some people are trying to read the tea leaves from these gyrations caused by random events. Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed. Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud. See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog |
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To call a top/turning point months before it happens is a big call. The DOW could as well just continued going up last week and this week. But for some reasons the market seems to turn. Look at Europe this morning, we haven't seen this for some time.
So whatever happened, Socrates picked up some signal. You can call it sheer coincidence or BS or whatever, I couldn't care less. For me opinions are worthless, facts matter ...
So let's call a spade a spade and I will tell you that you are dead wrong, and if you continue with this approach, then this will bite you in the future. Hopefully, you can avoid that. I don't have to elaborate on the fact that Martin Armstrong called it both ways which makes the call that you pick in hindsight useless. I don't have to elaborate on the fact that it is not Socrates the software that made these calls but Martin Armstrong's ECM that he keeps adjusting to the events in hindsight. I am focusing on the behavior where you call statistics worthless opinions while you identify a fact by cherry-picking in hindsight a single observation of your own that you like, and rate that single observation higher than the statistics. You obviously even think that you are less biased than the majority in this forum.
You act like a fool, and Martin Armstrong can have his business only because of people like you. You even bought a Socrates subscription a few days ago to support him.Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed. Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud. See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog |
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So far, Socrates has been spot on which I find remarkable if this continues.
According to MA, a lower closing this week will mean that we go down further in February.
That's an incredibly remarkable forecast. Absolutely amazing. Hopefully it continues so you can keep finding it remarkable. /s Spot on nstrdms! Thank you. You are highlighting a fallacy, and I have been watching this for some time. That flip-flop type of evaluation (I would not call it analysis by any stretch of the imagination) with disregard of continuity, consistency, credibility. At best, this would be recency bias. Is he still trying to find some gold nuggets in a pile of garbage? And most importantly, Socrates has NOT and would not have forecast this, because Socrates has elected bullish reversals on the high which are now turning into bad losses. Statistically it is all noise and no consistent gains are possible. What MA is doing is to scatter forecasts like a shotgun. Then in hindsight he creates a sales campaign around the one out of many that succeeded while ignoring the failed ones. Subsequently he literally forces his readers to make the leap of faith that this must be attributed to Socrates, with the aim of meeting his sales objectives. DanB1 just highlights this trap - indeed a prime example. That is why I do not focus so much on these forecasts whether they fail or not. I focus on the methods that MA applies to sell snake oil by fooling everyone (except a few) all the time. The discussion whether there was a forecast of this event - whether it turns out to be correct or not - is futile. I do not want to become a forecaster, if so then I would not be better than MA. Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed. Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud. See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog |
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Isn't it amazing how the entire interview of our charlatan by the MSM is completely fact free? What a complete waste of time! Except that here we are once again given the opportunity to check everything (doing the work that the fake news morons fail to do). So what is this? Propaganda? Gossip? Let us check some facts. MA: AE Global Solutions "Institutional Advisor"? "We have far more institutions than anybody"? Check: When he acted as a financial advisor he went to jail for it. See Martin Armstrong. Look at AE Global Inc.Defunct. No references. No clients. Only his cult following of retail investors. He is NOT offering ANY financial advice at all if you read the fine print on all of his sites. MA: "So we have got offices from China, South-east Asia, Abu Dabi, Europe and America." Check: See Review on WEC - World Economic Conferences and His Fake OfficeMA: Socrates "the only truth for Artificial Intelligence computer system"? Check: See Lies about Super-computerMA: "Socrates is basically the computer system I, that's what I named it, it analyzing everything in the world - it goes from a capital flow perspective ..." Check: See The Global Correlation ModelMA: "Yeah, I mean, ah, if we end up seeing this week, the week after that turning point close lower than Friday 17 then yes, we get a short term correction." Check: See A Self-fulfilling Financial ForecastMartin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed. Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud. See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog |
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Saying a panic cycle is this week (so lower?), but last Friday the Dow elected a bullish reversal at 28.971,94, so we also should test 30k (so higher?).
Armstrong again got caught red handed playing both sides.
Sure, no doubt. But we don't need Martin Armstrong to do that. Socrates is designed to do it all by itself. See: Socrates Technical Analysis Prediction Magic
After reading here the evidence that has been presented from so many angles by so many people, anybody still buying Martin Armstrong's products or services must be a person of unlimited stupidity.Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed. Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud. See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog |
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Well so far at least the opening of this week based on FUTURES looks like DOWN HARD to me. So I have to tip my hat off to armstrong for this week, it looks like he is going to be right about this panic cycle week. Need to give credit where credit is due, not many traders can say ahead of time or weeks ahead of time when a panic cycle WEEK is going to occur.
0.6% down in 2 days is a panic cycle?A panic cycle needs a movement 10 times as much. Add you to the list of morons Gumbi, Strike Eagle 26, over45, Jason100, Alex-11, trc4949 ... Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed. Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud. See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog |
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Florida Business Lawyers - Shiner Law Group
What Qualifies as Intentional False Advertising?
Florida law, strictly prohibits the intentional use of false advertising for the sale of products, personal property, or any services. This law also extends to the placement of an advertisement before public that describes services or product, with no intent from the ad creator to sell the products at the mentioned price. Businesses are also prohibited from making false claims about the quality or purpose of a product, or to give consumers an inaccurate understanding of the products they are buying.
There are numerous forms of false or deceptive advertising tactics used to sell products and services, which includes the following:
Well done. We are getting closer to the core of the matter. Our activities are in fact very focused on what you write - the component of pure deception in Martin Armstrong's campaigns. These campaigns are clearly misrepresenting the quality and performance of his models which he falsely claims to be the foundation of the services that he sells. The misrepresentation has many facets, only one of them, as an example, are the fake user posts on his web site that does not accept any comments. We don't really need to list all of them to prove the deceptive nature of his activities. Summing it up as dibley8899 has just said, who cares what he now writes in his latest blogs, who cares whether the next forecast is actually right or wrong? What matters is that he has been caught doing Intentional False Advertising many times, enough so that someone can take this material and take some serious action. To provide THAT material has always been our focus, and we hope we did not disappoint in that regard. My personal method is repeatable. It takes time to put together the timeline of actions of campaign around a major theme that he creates, and one finds all the components in such a campaign. Good examples: The Myth of the Martin Armstrong Global Cooling PredictionQuarterly Superposition Event in Gold 2015He creates a campaign around a scary theme, links is ECM / models to that theme, falsely claims every third day during the campaign that his models predicts the events, and that his services that are also based on his models can help the consumer of his services to profit from them, either in the context of that theme, or otherwise. Then he creates fake emails of satisfied / impressed users praising him for his achievements and services that they bought or are intending to buy. The "see you in Orlando" type of thing. If I had more time, I would like to create another theme with references, his false claims that he uses Artificial Intelligence instead of his 30-year old technology. But you can look at that armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com blog, it is full of evidence. We don't actually need much more. Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed. Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud. See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog |
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Well this market better tank down HARD next week or his entire reputation is on the line
so is this the thing now? So this can be disproven? Finally, someone made a deadline. Tangible. let us see!!!  Check the old posts, we already did that a lot last year. Conclusion was that it didn't work. You have a good point here. From my perspective, this discussion is kind of entertaining but pointless. Why? Because everybody who knows a little about statistics, and traders usually do, knows it. What if everything turns out to be as the current interpretation of this fake prediction ( which isn't one as I pointed out before) ? Then we are back at square one even while it means nothing. An event where the broken clock is right twice a day. The fact is that Martin Armstrong has a horrible track record already as we can see here and the site in my signature. I don't want to spoil the party - in fact I enjoy the fun so by all means keep watching and we will add the outcome to the history. Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed. Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud. See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog |
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Well this market better tank down HARD next week or his entire reputation is on the line
Well, either way Martin Arstrong can always claim he was right because the condition technically is that it would need to be a CONFIRMED HIGH. To be a CONFIRMED HIGH, the price has to go down after it otherwise the high would be later or undefined in time. Here is another projection of the same event made via Personal Message: ... and If we do make a high in January(price target 30k) the week of January the 13th on the Dow this could be a great short opportunity with a sharp drop going into the 1st quarter 2021. You have never traded in line with the ECM(TIME) and the reversals(PRICE) and I have come to the conclusion that it is the best strategy this model has to offer but these major turning points only come ever 4.3 years so we have 2020.05 and then next is 2024.35 as the next major turning point. I am referring to the Self-fulfilling Financial Forecast effect where our Hindsight Guru can claim that he was right regardless. In other words it is not even a forecast. It is bullshit. Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed. Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud. See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog |
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Dummkopf! ... I just love these factual discussions. They are amazing  So let's get's some facts again. Has all been provided here before. but for Dummkopf who cannot remember facts we are showing it again (because we are only interested in facts here): SeeNotwithstanding any disclaimers of not providing trading or investment advice - what matters here is the claim of the performance of the models which is the foundation of the products and services that are sold as merchandise to clients. As previously said, Gumbi's and cohorts' posts get replied to in a way that will remind them of the context in which we showed him that he is a charlatan. Let him be reminded again that we have a model case where this behavior is documented in much detail. It actually saves time and effort to repeat this as opposed to wasting the time trying to argue this same type of thing without end. Whatever smokescreen Gumbi and cohorts are coming up with now, they get this reply. I know Gumbi just wants this message to go away but I am not going to do him the favor. I am just not taking his baits for more nonsense any more. The pattern is the same again and again: Pick one of the ambiguous conflicting Socrates signals in hindsight to argue the case. For us, there is no need to formulate a custom response to that. We use this model case as a standard response reply to show what these charlatans are doing. I have an obligation to spread the message for the honest people, and as painful as it is for me, I am going to persevere until the Armstrong promoters shut up. So they are warned. The honest people have all the facts on their side. AnonymousCoder"Quarterly reversal time unit is one quarter. Gold rallied before the quarter was over and no other signal in the opposite direction was available to indicate change of direction.The time span is 1 to 3 units in time so the quarterly bearish reversal had 1 to 3 quarters before time was up. Armstrong wrote on his private blog on the first of March our quarterly level of the model generated a bullish reversal at the end of the year reversing its short position and going long. This also signaled that gold would rally from the $1060 area and should test the next bullish reversal at the $1347 level." Not sure if you are aware or not but you are losing this discussion.  Here we go. You are providing the proof of my assertion yourself!
Hindsight, Fraud. This hindsight message is fraudulent misrepresentation of performance, pure fraud!
Now here you are saying, and I know you are speaking for Martin Armstrong, that
Martin Armstrong had this information, this bullish signal, the fact that his model went long - at the end of the year - but at the same time failed to tell his clients?
In fact he sent the opposite signal to his clients at the time!
If he knew this at the time when he claimed the system went long, and let's assume for the sake of argument that what you say is true then he could have been trading against his clients because he published this signal only three months later.
You are not worth the respect of a single honest being on earth! You are a fraud!
And yes, I have all the reports. How could I otherwise quote them? I have everything!
More importantly, all other people who lost, they have everything as well.
Here is a detailed time line of the events: Quarterly Superposition Event in Gold 2015Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed. Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud. See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog |
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He told us hundreds of times that his computer can predict the weather, the climate, see The Myth of the Martin Armstrong Global Cooling Prediction. Right? So if there is even a shred of truth in it, in his proclaimed ability to predict so many things, then why does he not trade (predict) commodities or stocks correlated with the weather like this one? If in fact he could do that, based on his so-called predictions, then he would not need to struggle to sell his over-priced books, overpriced reports, overpriced dysfunctional Socrates, overpriced conferences. He would just trade something like Natural Gas. Where are his daily Natural Gas Price Forecasts? Nothing there. Because Martin Armstrong The Big Loser is a crackpot. Whatever he does, it is absolutely useless. Like giving advice on Food SecurityAll he can do is to prey on even bigger losers, the members of his cult. What a great business! Tip: Check the facts. Compare notes. Review his "predictions" and check whether you would have benefited had you speculated / traded / invested based on them. That is what we have been doing here. Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed. Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud. See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog. |
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I've done alot of empirical testing on it against real market data you may have done your testing on inaccurate array data. You can forget about the arrays from Feb. 2019 - August 2019 on ask-socrates.com. I'm sure they were completely faulty during that time. This is part of the problem. Even if the Socrates system did work, the roll out was quite unprofessional because the subscribers were basically the guinea pigs. Well, there was this banner on ask-socrates.com that they are still migrating the data and there may be issues. So there was and still is a warning on the system. I think MA just wanted to get the system released and grant access to the reversals. I don't want to discuss that things went wrong with the release of SOC Pro. This I've mentioned already numerous times. I just wanted to say that the arrays didn't make any sense before, but they do now. So your tests have been done based on inaccurate data (which was of course not your fault). I'm also not talking about whether the arrays are good or not. That is a different question. Ok so if he sold us Smurf's inaccurate information then a. Where's my credit or refund b. Why hasn't he contacted people like myself who cancelled subscriptions and offered a credit or allowed access to his updated and supposedly now working arrays reversals etc. For the record I was a Pro subscriber His best call remains DO NOT GO LONG THIS MARKET As we say in Australia MAs FULL OF SHIT WOULD LOVE TO PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE Same thing happened to me. When I noticed, I asked for a refund. These assholes refused - that is one of the many reasons why why I am here now. There are obviously still enough idiots born every day, so what Gumbi wrote to me makes total sense: There is no such thing as bad publicity. The irony is I found out about Armstrong from people like you. HAHA my first victim So where are the victims? Just look here: Reality of a Global CurrencyNow, in case that anybody thinks that Socrates works now or is any better because they have fixed something - no way. They basically replaced one random solution with another random solution. IT CAN'T BE FIXED. Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed. Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud. See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog. |
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Thanks Parisboy.
Currently I'm mostly interested what happens around January 18 ECM.
So far I have been long this market big time and where I would normally haved trimmed some around end of December I decided to see if we would rally into this date.
So far not much is happening but I'll wait and see. Gumbi has send me some information and numbers and I keep a close look at it.
If indeed a big top (for instance going towards 30K in DOW) is created around the ECM with a year long draw down then that is a nice call and I will trade it.
If nothing happens I myself close the book on MA and move on.
He's actually calling it both ways now. From his private blog, not verbatim, if a low into the ECM, then he would expect a rally thereafter once the 2019 high is exceeded, otherwise a high into the ECM warns of a correction before the break out. I was subscribed to his basic service which is utterly useless and I've since cancelled after his numerous failed calls. You are saying that he makes two contradicting calls. Additionally, it is interesting that both are self-fulfilling as well. See A Self-fulfilling Financial Forecast how that works, how he constructs these forecasts. Worthless.Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed. Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud. See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog. |
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