[...]Bitcoin.de, Kraken, ist auch nix für den Normalbürger. Also eigentlich hab ich genau für solche Leute wie deinen Nachbar ein ziemlich ausführliches Tutorial zu bitcoin.de geschrieben. Da wird jeder Schritt einzeln mit Screenshots erklärt - vom Konto anlegen bis zum ersten Kauf (und der Überweisung ins lokale Wallt, falls das noch gewünscht ist). Oder spricht noch was anderes gegen bitcoin.de? Überweisungsbetrug... bei Plattformen wie Kraken o. Bitstamp wo du mit einem Exchange handelst, weißt du, dass das Fiatgeld was auf deinem Konto landet auch aus legalen Quellen stammt. Bei bitcoin.de gab es oft Fälle wo Leute mit geklauten Bankkonten bezahlt haben was dann bei dir als BTC Verkäufer zu einer Strafanzeige, Kontoschließungen usw. führen kann. Gibt hier bei bitcointalk mehrere Fälle wo dies geschehen ist. Bitcoin.de wickelt seit 2011 Trades ab. Es gab zwei-drei Fälle, was eine wirklich minmale Quote ist, und seit der Kooperation mit der Fidor-Bank und der gründlicheren Verifikation ab einem bestimmten Volumen ist das soweit ich weiß nicht mehr vorgekommen (außer eventuell rückwirkend). Bitcoin.de hat darüber hinaus für den "Laien" den Vorteil, dass es einen sehr kompetenten, hilfsbereiten und deutschsprachigen Support gibt, den man auch telefonisch erreichen kann, und dass es, anders als irgendwelche Anbieter die "einfacher" / "schneller" sind (falls es das wirklich gibt), ein deutsches Unternehmen mit deutschem Wohnort und Legitimität nach deutschem Recht ist. Die Vertrauenswürdigkeit ist denke ich für viele "Laien" extrem wichtig. Wenn ich an meine Eltern denke, ist es für mich nicht vorstellbar, dass sie irgendwo anders als auf bitcoin.de einkaufen würden. (machen sie aber nicht und ich halte mich davon fern, sie zu überreden) ok, wenn es wirklich so wenige Fälle waren ist bitcoin.de wohl doch zu empfehlen. Wobei ich z.B. Bitstamp sobald man einmal verifiziert ist auch extrem komfortabel finde - auch für den Otto-Normal-Verbraucher. Bei meiner Bank ist das Überweisungsformular für SEPA dasselbe wie für Inlandsüberweisungen also kopiert man einfach die Bitstamp Daten rein und hat das Geld bereits am nächsten Werktag (wirklich, jedes mal war das Geld am nächsten Werktag bereits auf Bitstamp) auf dem Bitstamp Account. Und Bitstamps Interface ist wirklich extrem übersichtlich und einfach zu bedienen. Aber wie du ansprichst ist natürlich nur bitcoin.de in der Lage deutschen Support anzubieten  Wie auch immer, jeder zuverlässige Anbieter erleichtert es an BTC zu kommen und erhöht so die Accessibility von BTC als Zahlungsmedium. Also meinetwegen können sowohl Bitstamp als auch bitcoin.de florieren und auch in Zukunft gute Geschäfte machen  |
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It's more expensive because its in demmand and people are using and spending it.
majority of bitcoin owners are currently holding their bitcoins instead of spending them. (just look at the amounts the biggest bitcoin address contain -> probably all in cold storage = the BTC won´t be spend in the near future) |
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It was rumored stunna is going to have big news on the day of the release. That PD3 was coded and developed by Blizzard (tm) xD and will be called blizzard-dice.... xD Waiting for PD3 is giving me the similar feeling of when I was waiting on wc3 and sc2. xD Blizzard always ended up releasing great games in the end. Let's hope the delays will be worth our impatient fat fingers.  Will definitely not disappoint for those who are keen dicers! what about a screenshot or some other kind of "appetizer" for all the people who are waiting for the release  ? |
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As for btc-e, I find it incredible that they have managed to get away without doing AML/KYC checks in this kind of regulatory climate. They only way that I can explain it is that there is something shady going on there.
They won't bother you with AML/KYC if you use one of the payment systems (middlemen), afaik they'll only ask for it if you want to make direct wire transfers. but you have to do AML/KYC procedures at the payment systems (OKPay, Perfectmoney)... in the online gambling world several gaming providers do it very similar to BTC-E and don´t ask you for documents if you deposit using one of these payment services (they rely on OkPay, Perfectmoney, Skrill, Neteller to comply with money laundering guidelines). Therefore I don´t think the BTC-E way of doing things is as weird as some of you seem to think. |
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Because bitstamp is about to do a mt.gox and is selling everyone's coins on them without them knowing. When bitcoin price rises something shonky is going on.
Stop with this bitstamp doing a "stamping" thing pls. Withdrawals work just fine after you send all the info (aka no withdrawal issues), they are only paranoid about money laundering issues. they cater various European states with different money laundering laws. Therefore I can see the need for a very strict KYC/AML system in order to fulfill the laws of 40+ countries regarding money laundering at once. |
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because people pay more for it? People are ready to pay more, as they don't want to lose their money in some pump-and-dump shit-coin. Greedy people who invest in shit-coins, hoping to multiply their money by 100 times overnight will lose everything. in the late 2013 rally altcoins made a few people quite rich But nowadays you´re right that the hopes of increasing an investment by buying altcoins by 100 times are really delusional. |
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a few weeks ago I read about a Dutch city where a whole street of vendors introduced BTC payment option.
Anyone knows if this was in Amsterdam or in another Dutch town?
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there still is the affiliate system of RitzgrandCasino |
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@Micon/FreeMoney
is it allowed to buy the account of another player? or can this lead to problems with the SWC team?
(additional question, if it is allowed -> do you help with account sells? I want to make sure
that the seller doesn´t scam me by retrieving his account details after i pay him...
Would you help by deleting any e-mail adresses from his account or even escrow the (small) BTC amount? )
Thank you.
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[...]Bitcoin.de, Kraken, ist auch nix für den Normalbürger. Also eigentlich hab ich genau für solche Leute wie deinen Nachbar ein ziemlich ausführliches Tutorial zu bitcoin.de geschrieben. Da wird jeder Schritt einzeln mit Screenshots erklärt - vom Konto anlegen bis zum ersten Kauf (und der Überweisung ins lokale Wallt, falls das noch gewünscht ist). Oder spricht noch was anderes gegen bitcoin.de? Überweisungsbetrug... bei Plattformen wie Kraken o. Bitstamp wo du mit einem Exchange handelst, weißt du, dass das Fiatgeld was auf deinem Konto landet auch aus legalen Quellen stammt. Bei bitcoin.de gab es oft Fälle wo Leute mit geklauten Bankkonten bezahlt haben was dann bei dir als BTC Verkäufer zu einer Strafanzeige, Kontoschließungen usw. führen kann. Gibt hier bei bitcointalk mehrere Fälle wo dies geschehen ist. |
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Even if the figures are slightly off I'm sure we'll surpass Paypal soon and I'm glad for it. Wonder if we'll ever get near to some of the credit card companies??
for a certain kind of transactions credit cards (mastercard, visa, amex) are still superior... for in-store transactions it still is a problem to wait up to 10 minutes for a confirmation. But I agree with you that at least Paypal and Western Union are no real competition for bitcoin anymore For most in store transactions you do not need to wait for a confirmation. No one is going to attempt a double-spend for a cup of coffee. valid argument! But a part of in-store transactions is paying for mac books, displays... (high value items where a double-spend could be an attractive idea) |
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Even if the figures are slightly off I'm sure we'll surpass Paypal soon and I'm glad for it. Wonder if we'll ever get near to some of the credit card companies??
for a certain kind of transactions credit cards (mastercard, visa, amex) are still superior... for in-store transactions it still is a problem to wait up to 10 minutes for a confirmation. But I agree with you that at least Paypal and Western Union are no real competition for bitcoin anymore |
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What value do you see that will be added between now and Summer that will push the price so high?
The mit students will take place on atumm, that can be the trigger for a new bubble that can take the price up to 5000, but the rest of this month i dont think it will be worth more than 600 majority of MIT students will sell their BTC immediately and convert their earnings into pizza & beer (nevertheless an interesting experiment, which generates media attention for BTC) |
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Bitcointalk ist in der Hinsicht teilweise echt eine Plage |
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Is anyone interested in taking the otherwise of
Detroit ML?
I'm looking to bet to win 0.05 BTC
Believe you want texas. I am also looking for a match to my texas bet: risking 0.20 on Texas +160. if I understand his post correctly he wants Detroit and is looking for someone who wants to back texas. |
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i dont think i could go under 60 forreal and that is a deal on your part ive seen 4k krillz sell for 30-40
ok I may be willing to pay your demanded 60 chips for it in the beginning of next week. But because I´ve never bought a SWC account before -> how is it guaranteed that you won´t try to regain access to the account after you´ve sold it? Do you remove/change the e-mail address in the account? Or do we ask the support of SWC to help with this deal? Thank you |
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You not taking anymore action on Real Madrid ML? Can't bet on this  look one posts above your post Real Madrid -0,5 @ 2.12 odds is exactly the same bet as Real Madrid to win. |
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Nevertheless something is weird about this 7k coins, because the major investors didn´t change according due to the stats in Deb´s blog: http://just-dice.blogspot.de/There isn´t a single investor which could withdraw that many coins from the site´s bankroll. It has to be either a bunch of investors taking profits or the site bankroll display is messed up. Only the biggest investor divested. The coins are still in his balance on the site, and so they are also still in the cold wallet. The list of investment amounts is posted once a week, soon after commission has been taken, and then left. If the coins aren't back by Sunday, you'll see that the biggest investment has disappeared in the next blog post. Does that make sense? yes it makes sense Except one thing: why does the investor divest his BTC but then doesn´t withdraw them from just-dice? If he wants to take profits that´s perfectly fine. But it seems like he hasn´t asked for a withdrawal. With this amount of coins he misses out on a ton of profits if he keeps his coins on just-dice without investing them. |
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