For people to later meet him on Telegram is his aim. You can see the topic he posted today. Let me quote it for you to see.


He came to this forum to look for a loan which would have been a scam if anyone borrowed him. He is looking for other means now when his former plan failed.

This is not the way to advertise. You are getting it so wrong. Advertise means you want to come up with a service, post about it and make it clear for people about a service and maybe possibly bring up a campaign about it also. But you want to bring up a service and not advertising anything. You are only looking for money and no money to be made from anyone on this forum which means it is not an advertisement.

If everything you want to do is on this forum, that is fine. But as you want to take it to telegram, it is better for people to avoid anything you are posting if they want to avoid scam.

You do not need to start to spam the forum because of what you called advertisement. It is not even an advertisement but you are advancing to scam when people told you already that you can bring up such discussion on this forum. Later you give your telegram link which is the commonest way scammers are using to do their work. I hope people will stay away from you. This should just be a discussion and not an advertisement.

Bitcoin dominance has not falling below 50% since may months ago. It is more than a year ago or more. Bitcoin dominance right now is 53.53%. But I do not see this to be new because bitcoin has really been dominating the crypto market since the beginning of crypto existence and till now.

Thanks for the helpful posts. I will find time to do that and upload the results on this thread.

Yes I saw that you can enable and disable Tor on Bitbanana but what if the wallet does not have Tor built-in. I do not have a lightning node to test those that you have to connect your node and external Tor. But I will try my best to include this and leave the space blank for those I am not able to get. Hopefully if someone using any of the wallet can come up to let us know if they can connect to external Tor which is not inbuilt for those that requires individual node connection.

I read about this that Phoenix will no longer be available on May 3 for US citizens or something like that. I will keep on checking the official site and on GitHub to know how true that would be. But I guess the site can not be taken down because of US but US IP address can be restricted. You can access the site with Tor or VPN which its IP address is set to another country location. Tor better and private.

On Tor I was able to access Phoenix official site that contains a link to their GitHub release page that can be used to download and use the wallet: https://phoenix.acinq.co/download

You can also access the file to download it directly on their GitHub release page: https://github.com/ACINQ/phoenix/releases

With how this is, the app can be removed from Google and App stores for US citizens but I still see no way that the app and service can be disabled for US citizens that still want to continue to use it. The site is not taken down and US citizens can still be able to access it as other non US citizens can access it.

There are some useful lightning network posts in the past, I will add some to the OP. But posts some posts created by RapTarX and Rath_ (who is the father of lightning network on this forum) have invalid imgur images. I will find something to do about the images if they both do not come back on this forum to update the image. But there was a time Rath_ posted that he will update the invalid images to valid ones but nothing has been done and I guess it is because he is too busy to do anything on the forum.

These are the thread I saw useful for the lightning network introductory post:
A Beginner's guideline to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Basics of the Lightning Network
The Lightning Network FAQ
The Lightning Network node experience
Lightning Network Observer


I can also add some other useful ones but which are not on this forum.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Network#:~:text=The%20Lightning%20Network%20(LN)%20is,to%20the%20bitcoin%20scalability%20problem.
https://medium.com/coinmonks/getting-started-with-bitcoin-lightning-network-5cd57e218463
https://tara-annison.medium.com/a-comprehensive-guide-to-the-lightning-network-aa2f7f9c6c31

These are two wallets that are also just like BTCitbanana because you have to connect your own node. If they are open source, I will also add them when I am adding the web wallet that support lightning network.

Trustwallet and Bitget wallet are not bitcoin lightning wallet. They support bitcoin but it is better you use good wallet that are not close source but open source for bitcoin. There are many bitcoin wallets that are open source. Electrum, Passport, Trezor, Sparrow, Bluewallet, Unstoppable, Green and many other wallets are bitcoin wallets.

Electrum and Bluewallet lightning network are not for newbies. To open a channel on Electrum is more manual and some newbies may not like that. You will need to be a lightning node runner before you can use Bluewallet as it will need your node address.

You do not use it regularly probably because you are a campaign manager and transfer huge amount of money weekly. Also that that lightning network has not been made convenient in a way you can send to many people at one time. I have not seen a lightning wallet that does that. But not good for huge amount dealings.

Lightning network is not well adopted but it grew a little in the past time.



Bitcoin Lightning Network Growth Surges by 1,200% in 2 Years

Electrum was created in 2012. The news of Electrum to support lightning network was in October, 2019 and the developers released version 4.0.1 in 2020. You can go to their update release to see that.

https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/blob/master/RELEASE-NOTES

Warning:

If you are using any of these wallets, know that you are at your own risk.

Lightning network should be used for small amount of bitcoin, the safest way are still cold and multisig wallets for on-chain transactions. Lightning wallets are just good for small amount of bitcoin and for frequent transactions.

Some lightning wallets open and close channels using liquid network which depends on intermediaries for peg-in and peg-out or something similar. Example is the opening and closing of a channel through the liquid network, or buying inbound liquidity which some wallets can offer.

Most importantly know that custodial lightning wallets are the worst. It is not your key which means it is not your coin. I do not use custodial lightning wallets but using this medium to let you just know about there existence. This post is not about their recommendation and I will not list any of them among the lightning wallet that I will list here. Do your own research to know about them.

Among all, the best to trust more is the trustless solution which is through the bitcoin on-chain opening and closing of channel which does not depend on intermediaries. But yet, use lightning network with small amount of money. If you are not spending your coins for a long time, use cold wallet instead.

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Importance of lightning wallets:

After channel opening, low fee can be used for lightning transactions which can be good for daily or frequent transactions. Transaction confirmation time is very fast which is just a matter of few seconds.

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Name: Phoenix
Supported OS: Android and iOS
GitHub repository: both Android and iOS here
Type: Noncustodial
Channel: On-chain
Newbies friendly: Yes
Backup: 12 words seed phrase backup is important
Tor: Inbuilt
Launch date: 2019

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Name: Zeus
Supported OS: Android and iOS
GitHub repository: both Android and iOS here
Type: Noncustodial
Channel: On-chain
Newbies friendly: Yes
Backup: 24 words seed phrase backup is important
Tor: No
Launch date: 2019

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Name: Aqua
Supported OS: Android and iOS
GitHub repository: both Android and iOS here
Type: Noncustodial
Channel: Liquid
Newbies friendly: Yes
Backup: 12 words seed phrase is important for backup
Tor: No
Launch date: January 3rd, 2024

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Name: Muun
Supported OS: Supported OS: Android and iOS
GitHub repository: Android l iOS
Type: Noncustodial
Channel: On-chain
Newbies friendly: Yes
Seed phrase backup: No
Backup: 18 characters (upper case and number) backup or using email backup
Tor: No
Launch date: 2019

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Name: Mutiny
Supported OS: Android, iOS and Browser
GitHub repository: here
Type: Noncustodial
Category: On-chain
Newbies friendly: Yes
Backup:
Tor: No
Launch date: 2023

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Name: Electrum
Supported OS: click here
Warning: Experimental
GitHub repository: Click here
Type: Noncustodial
Channel: On-chain
Newbies friendly: No
Backup: Wallet file. 12 word seed phrase may be important to force close a channel
Tor: Yes (manual connection via Tor application)
Launch date: July 3, 2020 (Version 4.0.1)

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Name: Bluewallet
Supported OS: Android,iOS and macOS
GitHub repository: both Android and iOS here
Type: Noncustodial
Channel: On-chain
Newbies friendly: Node connection required
Tor: Removed
Backup: x

Launch date: 2019

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Name: Blixt
Supported OS: Android and iOS
GitHub repository: both Android and iOS here
Type: Noncustodial
Channel: On-chain
Newbies friendly: Node connection required
Backup:
Tor: Inbuilt
Launch date: 2022

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Name: BTCitbanana
Supported OS: Android and F-Driod
GitHub repository: both Android and iOS here
Type: Noncustodial
Category: On-chain
Newbies friendly: Node connection required
Backup:
Tor: Yes
Launch date: 2023

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Name: Breez
Supported OS: Android and iOS
Warning: Beta
GitHub repository: both Android and iOS here
Type: Noncustodial
Channel: I do not know if it is truly noncustodial
Newbies friendly: Yes
Seed phrase backup: No
Backup: Google/iCloud (not good) or Remote server (I prefer seed phrase and wallet file but not included)
Tor: Yes
Launch date: 2019

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It is good to know that close source lightning wallets are not listed, also that custodial lightning network wallets are not included. The wallets that required users to open and close channels, or connecting your own nodes for node runners are the ones I listed.

Old thread: Open-source Lightning wallets

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Hugeblack posted that he is too busy to updated the old thread that was last edited in 2020. Thanks to him for giving me the opportunity to come up with this thread. Thanks to dkbit98 for the information I got about Aqua wallet. I did not contact him but his post about the wallet was useful. I saw his post on Bitcointalk. Thanks to DaveF for the information he provided about BTCitbanana on Hugeblack's old thread. Thanks to FinneysTrueVision for pointing to Aqua wallet. It was him that actually let me make research about the wallet before I saw bdkbit98 post about it. About its second wallet that he mentioned, Marina, I will still do research on it but it looks like a browse extension wallet which makes me not to research about it further for now. More wallets will later be added.

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More will be added. You can suggest the ones you know.

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Helpful links for beginners to know what lightning network is:

A Beginner's guideline to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Basics of the Lightning Network
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Network#:~:text=The%20Lightning%20Network%20(LN)%20is,to%20the%20bitcoin%20scalability%20problem.
https://medium.com/coinmonks/getting-started-with-bitcoin-lightning-network-5cd57e218463
https://tara-annison.medium.com/a-comprehensive-guide-to-the-lightning-network-aa2f7f9c6c31
The Lightning Network FAQ
The Lightning Network node experience
Lightning Network Observer

Manchester City is playing with a club that is not strong and I am also expecting Manchester City to win. First half is almost gone and Manchester City is winning with 1 goal already scored by J. Gvardiol with the assist of K. De Bruyne. We are still expecting more goals. By the way, Arsenal has already won Tottenham which we know it is going to be a tough match but Arsenal trashed Tottenham 3 goals in the first half but Tottenham was not able to equalize in second half but scored 2.

I can say gambling is not that my passion or maybe I should use the world 'hobby' because I still like to gamble at times especially during the weekends when I have nothing to do and also when I am around my friends we can talk about gambling and gamble on a gambling site. I read about 1% to be used for gambling on a football prediction site but it has been long and I do not remember the prediction site that I read it from as I have many prediction sites in the past that I check for prediction before betting.

Total Goals: 36

I have interest to know more about the lightning network wallets recently and it will be my pleasure to begin new thread about it and be updating it.

I also just noticed that Electrum is not among the wallet mentioned. Electrum can be used for lightning payment. It is noncustodial.

Liquid network is different from lightning network. If there is no channel created by individual or the people that are providing the wallet service, that means it is not a lightning network.

This is a very good thread for people that are interested in lightning network but I think it needs to be edited.

The first is that Bluewallet is no more a custodial lightning network wallet, you have to connect to your LNDHub which now makes it noncustodial.

I was unable to see Zap, Eclair Mobile, Peach Wallet and shockwallet on Android PlayStore. You can check it yourself to know if I am correct or not. I am not an iPhone user to check the ones you mentioned for iOS.

There are some other ones that are existing now. Example is this common one called Wallet of Satoshi. I am surprised that I did not see it on the list. But it is possible that it has not been created in 2020 when you started this thread.

I see $20 to be too much for me, using just $5 to bet out of $100 is good for me. I prefer the parlay that you talked about. I even sometimes like it riskier in a way I can go for 3 matches and all are fist half win. I do this just to get a bigger old for small amount of money. Some people will prefer to go for little odd with high armount of money, this is a silly mistake from some gamblers.

To lock a topic, go down the thread and you will see lock topic beside move topic at the lower left side. Click on lock topic to lock it.

This can confuse people. Some people will think that the high risk assets can be gambling assets. Out of my money, I can not leave more than 5% in gambling. Most of the time I leave lower than 5%. I have read about gambling funds before and it is advised that it should not even be more than 1% of your income. Using the low amount of money can give joy and happiness as they are nothing for you and it would be like you did not lose anything. But it should be about 1 to 5% of the money you hate earning and not your total assets.

Stompix said it is a flood in Orenburg , Russia. There was flood in Dubai but not this image. But this does not change my question.

This was part of the flood in Dubai recently. The rain that should have fallen in almost 3 years fell in just one day and the whole of the city were flooded.



It is possible that doors and windows and wardrobes were broken. Can steel or titanium sheet survive this? It might probably has been swept away from the house into the ocean.

Thanks. It is super easy. I use it to look for all my posts on service board and I saw that I have been in Gandom campaign before which is my first campaign on this forum. I will look for other later. Your post helped.

Thanks LoyceV for the help but I have seen what I am looking for already.


I am locking this thread. I have my answer already.