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221  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 19, 2014, 07:14:08 AM


Yes and that is your perspective of this I am not attacking your investment so you don't need to defend it -  you are free to believe as I am am free to outlay my concerns.   Seems like there is a lot you didnt actually know. 

However with that said it goes back to what some members of this team have been exposed too in the past that has lead to the creation of THIS coin.  The troll boxes I am talking about it poloneix I said this in my first reply (and shouldn't need to keep reminding you) 

A lot of people were telling her, that this idea was a bad idea and it was clearly nothing more than a money grab and this was after the community was angry with poloniex hosting pure 100% ipo scam coins - That is where a lot of the criticism is coming from - this isn't FUD at all. Maybe you haven't seen how the last pure IPO scam coins went on for on poloniex. 

My last couple of posts indicate my general feeling on this PR team and coin. 

So I will move on from this as there is nothing here long term in my opinion.  I hope qibucks and bitcoinmafia can finally earn enough money to see their kids/buy whatever they want so we dont have to constantly read about woe is my life in troll boxes all the time now.  The fact one member kept wanting to be a miniwhale should tell you all you need about the direction of ONE member.

Money first - investments/tech/whatever sadly comes second in this instance.  I don't think they will even make their coin earn 20 sats in the future.  Better coins with more going for it struggle to make that.

I am aware of the IPO coins on Poloniex, XBC, LCL and Mil. And plenty of the ICO coins on Bittrex. Most ended up with the devs leaving, taking all the IPO funds with them. But as I stated, Poloniex changed their ICD rules after the Mil fiasco. The devs won't be just given all the ICO funds. You hope, and that is all you can do.  The change in attitude to poloniex IPOS happened well before Mill.  Why we need another one ?? because poloniex collects fees and this team and their followers pumped this shit out of this and still do every time they get online - so yes this is a poloniex coin in my eyes as most of the team are also regulars in the trollbox and I have watched them discuss the coin/what it is/do as if it was their personal IRC channel.

And yes, I know it's the Polo trollbox  you meant, and that is what I was referring to as well. My point was, you can't claim the coin is simply a product of trollbox hype, when the trollbox is also negative towards the coin. I just did with what I said and observed, dont worry people will fud for cheaper coins - always happens.

And a dev wishing to make money from their coin is hardly unusual. I have a feeling you may find it a bit difficult finding any dev team doing crypto for purely altruistic reasons or with the idea they will walk away without any financial reward at all. What about when its sole purpose is to create money for your personal circumstances only ? as that is the future to me of this coin.  Usually they get called scams

If you don't like the people working on the coin, or the idea of an asset based crypto, that's of course fine. I wouldn't tell anyone to buy or sell this, or any coin. I just find it odd you need to post these concerns if you have no actual interest in the coin itself.  Yeah good question - I dont want you to lose money.  I dont want to see many people get ripped off if I can help it.  Proof of baghold please give me a break.  I have watched a daytrader lie his ass off to some of these people running the coin and they blindly bought what they were crapping on about to only watch them lose a lot of money even after being warned.  My point is, this team have zero credibility for me in regards to coin development let alone anything else after that fact

Molay you are one serious bitter person,I seen how you troll on Poloniex.
As for the team,you are just super trolling our thread.
Maybe you should get off your troll soapbox and get some sleep dude.

Wow assume much ? I actually don't post in the poloniex trollbox and if I did it hasn't been a nick you have seen that I promise as I see you a lot in there spamming nonsense.  Wink  

I am still not convinced with your BTC atm business yet either champ.  It doesn't surprise me you would side with one questionable venture whilst running your own.  Sorry If my BS meter is going off the charts, after all the sole reason why you even care is you got free coins to dump.  Use ignore for all I care.
 
People shouldn't have shot themselves in the foot and have a big mouth spamming trollboxes with personal shit - we dont fucking care ....must be a US thing huh (even though your in the UK)

Its just in this world the crypto world this is the only place you can hold an IPO and have NOTHING to show for it.    I promise you people this will be my last post in here but there are no devs here only PR people.  This does not make a good coin nor a good investment platform.  So if you have a reply - use PM as I dont even want to open this thread up anymore to even check for one.

For everyone else drinking the koolaid - good luck, you are going to need it big time.   If I am wrong Ill state it, but as a gambler I wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole frmo what I already know of certain people running the show and the lack of development.


I am so glad that they are working hard on getting a richlist up......so important isnt it.



222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 18, 2014, 11:05:08 PM
Working hard to get us in the top 100 of Coinmarketcap. Let's show the Next Generation that there are possibilities and options for the as they enter the marketplace through Cryptocurrency..

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/views/all/

Currently we are @ 144 position.

See - only concerned about the money.
223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 18, 2014, 10:59:29 PM


As I said pure 100% POS coins offer zero value to me when they provide nothing from the start.  I don't think this coin was worth the 20 sats it was listed when they had nothing to go with other than a wallet and 100% mined coins and a smile and promise.  Sorry but if you expect me to buy into a coin I expect a lot of work already done - not a vote for whats next.  That's poor marketing - which it seems this team only has - marketing and a poor job of it.

Sorry If I am all about fair distribution. But this coin offers nothing of that sort and I am sorry the poloneix trollbox is responsible for crap like this.  LCL, XBC, Millionaire coin, this crap are all born inside the trollbox where by the plebs attack it like flies on shit.  Dump it after 10% and we never hear form them again.   I have seen this time and time again on one of my fav exchanges - but not anymore.

whatever




You do know this is an asset based coin, correct? There is no way to list the coin as an ICO -- with assets already purchased -- before the ICO is run and funding obtained. In many ways that should be the point of all ICO coins, not just this one -- the funding is used for development of new features, or in this case, new features + assets. One difference here is that Poloniex holds the funds until they are used for what they say they will, with a full ledger. There won't be any giant lump sum payout to the devs like on other ICO coins, as per Poloniex ICD rules.

As for being a coin of the trollbox, I'm not sure what trollbox you have been watching, but the trolls came out negatively against qibucks, spreading a lot of fud early on. What the trollbox gives, it takes away... it's not all pro any coin, so I wouldn't say this coin has been hyped up by the trollbox. More like the opposite.



Yes and that is your perspective of this I am not attacking your investment so you don't need to defend it -  you are free to believe as I am am free to outlay my concerns.   Seems like there is a lot you didnt actually know.  

However with that said it goes back to what some members of this team have been exposed too in the past that has lead to the creation of THIS coin.  The troll boxes I am talking about it poloneix I said this in my first reply (and shouldn't need to keep reminding you)  

A lot of people were telling her, that this idea was a bad idea and it was clearly nothing more than a money grab and this was after the community was angry with poloniex hosting pure 100% ipo scam coins - That is where a lot of the criticism is coming from - this isn't FUD at all. Maybe you haven't seen how the last pure IPO scam coins went on for on poloniex.  

My last couple of posts indicate my general feeling on this PR team and coin.  

So I will move on from this as there is nothing here long term in my opinion.  I hope qibucks and bitcoinmafia can finally earn enough money to see their kids/buy whatever they want so we dont have to constantly read about woe is my life in troll boxes all the time now.  The fact one member kept wanting to be a miniwhale should tell you all you need about the direction of ONE member.

Money first - investments/tech/whatever sadly comes second in this instance.  I don't think they will even make their coin earn 20 sats in the future.  Better coins with more going for it struggle to make that.
224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 18, 2014, 10:42:08 PM
And AFAIK most of the people that respect their own privacy are still on OS X, not Windows users.

I know off topic but how do you figure that is the case ?  I bet I am more secure in my linux, and windows systems then being on a mac.  Feel free to take it to PM but I just had to point out this statement as untrue.
225  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 18, 2014, 09:57:24 PM
Sigh now I have seen it all.  You could have called it anything.  Plus I dont actually trust the poloneix trollbox with things going forward now when they promote this kind of rubbish.

Who is the real dev in this team ?

Also like XBC which you are a member of their team qiwoman - or used to be - why are you surrounding yourself with pure 100% POS coins ?  I know your not a developer by ANY means, therefore I dont see ANYTHING worthwhile in this coin AT ALL - and would only mine this - not BUY IT. but I cant do that can I ? just because you and bitcoin mafia arent miners.

Think I have seen qiwoman listed on teams for a few coins - that have stagnated and stalled and dropped off the face of the earth.



If I recall correctly, she was listed on XBC's list of people who owned 1% of the coins. Not sure if it was more than that... perhaps she did marketing at the begining? Not aware of her being on other teams, but she can speak up about that.

And I don't understand how anyone could trust the poloniex troll box... ever. Or any trollbox.

Whether you want to invest or not, up to you. I think a multipool is in the works, so you could mine it that way if you so choose. Having regular mining + ICO is typically a bad combination due to dumpers, hence why POS is probably a better choice.




That 1% were the official Team of investors that forced the dev to destroy the premine and steered the direction of the coin (basically all they did after that was sit in troll boxes defending XBC whilst they waited for weeks for a wallet)  - I remember it like it was yesterday.  


As I said pure 100% POS coins offer zero value to me when they provide nothing from the start.  I don't think this coin was worth the 20 sats it was listed when they had nothing to go with other than a wallet and 100% mined coins and a smile and promise.  Sorry but if you expect me to buy into a coin I expect a lot of work already done - not a vote for whats next.  That's poor marketing - which it seems this team only has - marketing and a poor job of it.

Sorry If I am all about fair distribution. But this coin offers nothing of that sort and I am sorry the poloneix trollbox is responsible for crap like this.  LCL, XBC, Millionaire coin, this crap are all born inside the trollbox where by the plebs attack it like flies on shit.  Dump it after 10% and we never hear form them again.   I have seen this time and time again on one of my fav exchanges - but not anymore.

whatever

It wont be long till the funds are released from poloniex and this coin floats to the bottom.  You have to wonder when 2 members of the team used to constantly cry in trollboxes that they need money for this or that playing on the heart strings of good people because they want to see their kids and they will state they want to be a mini whale.  To me that screams I need money as the first thing they want out of this coin.  As an investor and miner that leaves me with zero confidence.

Besides there is no real 100% dedicated dev in this marketing team. 2nd reason why I wont invest in this coin.  Maybe when multipool is up.  But I encourage you to search out the ops older nick and where it pops its ugly head up.  





If I am wrong Ill come in and say so.  

226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 18, 2014, 07:31:44 AM
Sigh now I have seen it all.  You could have called it anything.  Plus I dont actually trust the poloneix trollbox with things going forward now when they promote this kind of rubbish.

Who is the real dev in this team ?

Also like XBC which you are a member of their team qiwoman - or used to be - why are you surrounding yourself with pure 100% POS coins ?  I know your not a developer by ANY means, therefore I dont see ANYTHING worthwhile in this coin AT ALL - and would only mine this - not BUY IT. but I cant do that can I ? just because you and bitcoin mafia arent miners.

Think I have seen qiwoman listed on teams for a few coins - that have stagnated and stalled and dropped off the face of the earth.

227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: List of Known FUDSTERS! on: August 17, 2014, 06:34:28 AM
If you cannot properly disseminate information, then you deserve to lose money.  This "list" will not be helpful to anyone, because FUDsters sometimes do make very valid points at times.


/thread

I would go one step further - 99% of the people on this very forum are fudsters in one way or another. The moment you speak negatively about a coin that has ZERO issues you are fudding. Its simple as that.



This topic just screams of someone still holding a big bag of "insert" coin and lost the value due to FUD - nothing more nothing less move along folks.



What I am trying to point out here are "KNOWN" FUDSTERS who have almost incessant acts of fudding,  much like one has "tourette syndrome" on some list of "coins".

No I agree with you, I dont know how old you are but in the past ANY black lists are ALWAYS a bad idea. Always.   Even if the intention is good.  I am just saying after a while in this world and trollboxes you know full well who is full of it and not, who is a day trader and who isnt.  You dont need a list because - I have like 10 accounts just on this forum alone. You know.

- I consider this list a Graylist.

One day, when the real people with money starting coming in here  and outnumbering the turds - once all the shit has been cleaned out all these kids with their pocket change will go.  And thats where all the bs,scam,fud is coming from - someone loses money in a dip - start a fud campaign on the coin taking the volume. Much like the dark dev having a cry on twiter about XC and the shitstorm it caused. - wasnt needed - pure jealousy.

- That Day has already begun. It is sad that certain  good coins are being Fudded like hell, and a lot of people are loosing a lot money due to this, its a chain reaction and mostly the newbs are the easy target that DO the triggering which causes an Avalanche and affects most of the traders.
and by doing this list, in a way it can be reduced and as you say to help curbed it.


See it recognize it, profit - that is how I make most of my cash these days. Playing the fudsters against each other. In the real world stock has to have more real assets/has to work etc. In this world no one cares about the coins innovation anymore, everyone cries at a premine - everyone cries at short pow - only kids do because they have an addhd attention span.

- People are starting to learn, and we can earn and trade better by doing a  smarter and better way of doing things.

My example, I will go into other coin threads to fudd them WHEN they come into threads on coins I am a supporter of JUST TO FUD. Ill admit I have curbed this shit lately as I am not 12.  - There you go, Its a START! Smiley

Fair enough then, if you must have a list chuck this name on the top - timerland
228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: List of Known FUDSTERS! on: August 17, 2014, 03:11:14 AM
If you cannot properly disseminate information, then you deserve to lose money.  This "list" will not be helpful to anyone, because FUDsters sometimes do make very valid points at times.


/thread

I would go one step further - 99% of the people on this very forum are fudsters in one way or another. The moment you speak negatively about a coin that has ZERO issues you are fudding. Its simple as that.



This topic just screams of someone still holding a big bag of "insert" coin and lost the value due to FUD - nothing more nothing less move along folks.



What I am trying to point out here are "KNOWN" FUDSTERS who have almost incessant acts of fudding,  much like one has "tourette syndrome" on some list of "coins".

No I agree with you, I dont know how old you are but in the past ANY black lists are ALWAYS a bad idea. Always.   Even if the intention is good.  I am just saying after a while in this world and trollboxes you know full well who is full of it and not, who is a day trader and who isnt.  You dont need a list because - I have like 10 accounts just on this forum alone. You know.

One day, when the real people with money starting coming in here  and outnumbering the turds - once all the shit has been cleaned out all these kids with their pocket change will go.  And thats where all the bs,scam,fud is coming from - someone loses money in a dip - start a fud campaign on the coin taking the volume. Much like the dark dev having a cry on twiter about XC and the shitstorm it caused. - wasnt needed - pure jealousy.

See it recognize it, profit - that is how I make most of my cash these days. Playing the fudsters against each other. In the real world stock has to have more real assets/has to work etc. In this world no one cares about the coins innovation anymore, everyone cries at a premine - everyone cries at short pow - only kids do because they have an addhd attention span.

My example, I will go into other coin threads to fudd them WHEN they come into threads on coins I am a supporter of JUST TO FUD.  Ill admit I have curbed this shit lately as I am not 12.  
229  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: List of Known FUDSTERS! on: August 17, 2014, 02:27:20 AM
If you cannot properly disseminate information, then you deserve to lose money.  This "list" will not be helpful to anyone, because FUDsters sometimes do make very valid points at times.


/thread

I would go one step further - 99% of the people on this very forum are fudsters in one way or another. The moment you speak negatively about a coin that has ZERO issues you are fudding. Its simple as that.



This topic just screams of someone still holding a big bag of "insert" coin and lost the value due to FUD - nothing more nothing less move along folks.

230  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Does XC uses multisig address and transaction? Looks like the answer is NO on: August 16, 2014, 05:57:02 AM
XC, a hot alt coin, claims that it is a trustless system and uses multisig technology to do it. See below



But I am puzzled by the fact that despite they talk like this, I don't see a single multisig address in XC nor do I see any multisig tx. As we all know, these are the central parts, if we do use this technology, we will see a lot talk about it, like in whitepaper, in thread discussions, the multisig addresses and tx are shown in the blockchain explorer etc (look at Superoicn/MammothCoin's threads, there are plenty talk on that. I can find quickly 10 multisig addresses and associated with transactions, they are currently doing alpha tests in mammothcoin network, so all the multisig addresses are for Mammothcoin, soon I expect to see for supercoinsm which is scheduled for beta tests). Can anyone show me XC's multisig addresses and their associated transactions?

This should be an easy thing to do. But since I don't see any, I doubt if the multisig is really implemented in XC. It looks more like a scam to me. Also, when I search the XC thread, I see this from someone (likely a dev of XC):



m-of-m multisig? Are you drunk? What fun will you have to have m-of-m multisig?? If one guy is bad then you want the wallet is locked forever? Do you guys understand what is a multisig address and how to use it?

It looks like this is a scam. Otherwise please show me some good examples you use in XC.

BTW, for Mammothcoin, they are testing for multisig trustless systems now, you see plenty multisig addresses and transactions there, you can even join the tests I think. There are some recordings in Mammothcoin/Supercoin's thread, for example:
http://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/c2j2IinsMO

and this is one of many multisig address with some transactions associated with it (there are plenty similar ones):
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/mamm/address.dws?bTz39geL1BR5UUdAciB8oh1F33eW1FXFcW.htm

Also they explained very clearly the concept and detailed workflow they use for the multisig trustless system:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=736705.msg8324932#msg8324932

Can you show me similar details in XC? If it is really there Grin




Good thread title, did you stop going to school in grade 3 ?

231  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ABC] Abundance PoS/PoE/PoW on: August 15, 2014, 04:21:45 PM
Yawn

Pass
232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 14, 2014, 06:27:53 AM
Id like to hear chatter about an XC ATM,

You can have a completely anonymous altcoin, but under US finance rules the ATM needs to verify the ID of the person using it.

So is a US XC coin atm out of the question? It would defeat the purpose if you need to verify your identity.
 

Atm's are currently being worked on across the pond by the XC Foundation

http://www.xc-official.com/the-xc-team/

Not sure how the team will work around the finance rules, I know rzr is presenting a skyhook  ATM at cryptolina this weekend and they claim to be anon. If any xcers are there it might be a good idea to chat with Bryce briefly, or extensively if they can deal with him for an extended period of time.

Besides, I am sure there is a bitcoin ATM in Vegas.  Doubt you need to prove anything there.  But move away from the atm idea for now please, its a pipe dream for a much later date and a lot of things need to be worked out first before that can happen - in my opinion.

233  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: crycurex.com fuck you ! back my btc, fuck again! on: August 08, 2014, 05:09:49 AM


234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: crycurex.com fuck you ! back my btc, fuck again! on: August 08, 2014, 04:57:52 AM
 

cheat!!!!!   thief!!!!!!


fuck your mother ,your wife,your sister, your daughter, and all your family woman


fuck again.

fuck you!

fuck you!

scoundrel ! liar !   fuck you!

Bitch treat your AIDS.


Dear Son of Yellow Bitch,

fake "national ID"

http://prntscr.com/4aavxw



Have a nice day and dont spam forum you yellow shit

fuck your mother ,your wife,your sister, your daughter, and all your family woman
stupid prick Cheesy


feedback from prickhead - racist behaviour.

Allow me to ask:

You stupid son of stinkiest bitch stupid fat burger prick ?

- you dumb asshole

fuck your mother ,your wife,your sister, your daughter, and all your family woman

skull you stupid fuck ?

Lichao insulted me, my family and I should be quiet ? Cheesy

You are very primitive and stupid garbage



Vampires attack !!!!!!


FEEEEAAR ME !!!!!!


ID is fake I am not trolling anyone Wink

 Roll Eyes
235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 06, 2014, 12:29:52 PM
Hello all

If you haven't received a response to your XChat entry to the TOR Stick competition, it means your entry hasn't been received. Send another message.

Also some entrants haven't posted their address on the official forum yet.

Please do so to activate your entry.




sent
236  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 06, 2014, 07:44:10 AM
so tomorrow we will be able to order TOR stick or I didint understand something?

Tomorrow we release the ISO for the TOR Stick with Privacy Mode + XChat.

It'll be downloadable for free, and you can run it in a virtualised environment or put it on a flash drive.



Bump

Awesome
237  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 04, 2014, 04:06:11 AM
Crying because I dumped all my xc and missed the boat after flipping out like a kid and throwing my toys out of the cot.




Why do you care ? didn't you piss off to c**khead coin. Stay there please and we wont come in there and rip that shit coin to pieces.



238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][IEC] IconicExpertCoin | Absolutely Trustworthy and Fair Coin on: July 26, 2014, 01:13:57 AM
Will mine, seems like an honest coin about its intentions.

239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [VPN]VPNCOIN |anon|Web tools|POS on: July 23, 2014, 04:33:19 PM
LOLOLOL
240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 23, 2014, 06:52:42 AM
Wow looks like some of xc basement dwellers are having a basement flame war.  Fucking idiots. You put the muppet on ignore (pookie) and move on.  When everyone has him on ignore no one can quote it.


Also good work on the coin - I just don't think you should create another forum topic with the title - daily updates

The reason why is, the same fucktards that are thieving oxygen that cant help themselves and flame war each  other will only piss and moan everyday when they read

"day 1 atcsecure woke up, started coding, finished coding for the day and no new improvements"


They would expect the world each day and if the update isnt what they want, cue bs.  Weekly update is much more realistic.

my .02 xc



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