Missed the "have flowed" part of the 28k coins paragraph. Very interesting. Has gaw payed out ham any coins? What is a legitimate reason for moving that many coins?
Edit: Also would love to hear a comment from Cantor now that Josh is on record bringing him into the mud.
Not only Cantor but also Paypal, avoid to give any answer regarding their partnership with pay coin but I am sure @KC6TTR will help us to find out. I also wanna learn the truth and asking those firm to sue him immediately, if any of those claims are not real Also will sue that 3rd party, if they are writing lies about that company as well. |
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Holy fuck... you are investing in mining and giving money to a man that knows nothing about mining by your comments. so are you saying all his comments about mining should be ignored because he knows nothing about it? you are investing based on how cool he looks and his speeches (which you should ignore because he doesnt know aboug mining... your words not mine).
btw he doesnt look cool he looks GAWsome or GAWful depending on the side of the fence you occupy
So you think a good Ceo, has to know all about company's technical operations and I am also agree with that. But most of them in real life especially the ones managing enterprise scale firms do not know any shit about technical operations. This man just playing his role, he probably do not know much about technical details of that coin and cloud mining. Just making speeches about their strategies. And I am invested that firm and do not invest any more. In the first place, it was look like a good firm to me but right now, I am a little bit indecisive about the situation. Do not want to take any more risk. |
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how evangelical of you.
i advise you keep cashing out and don't put any back.
I am keeping your advise and evaluate your opinion as a valuable advise. Probably you got more knowledge in cloud mining than me. Because I already get what I paid for won't invest any more and won't cash my hashlets out as well. I am also eager to see what will happen next, can't miss that show  |
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That comes out as maintence fees. im talking the total btc earned before maintenence. if he has what he says he has in hashing this value shouldnt be changing. understand?
m8 Josh does not know any shill about mining, programming and transaction management. All He knows is how to look cool and making speeches to make customer happy and buy. He is a Ceo, he is not a technical man. Why are you caring that much about what he says. He already confess He does not know any thing about cloud mining, this guy learnt how to use twitter recently I already get what I paid for from Zens and Primes, I am able to transfer my BTC anywhere I want. So no problem for me, up until somebody provide He is guilty I will count him as innocent and do not make any more investment because I also value your opinions about that company. But as I sad before, it is too early to collapse if it is a ponzi. Josh, will make customers believe him by paying pay coin shares. More and more people, will come to him and do not ask any question at all. After that time, if this is a fraud we will be able to understand but it is too early right now. |
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try cashing it out...
Regularly transferring my earnings to my cryptsy account, no problem up to now. please make company aware about your situation again. Sometimes, help desk working a bit slow. But I never heart someone complaining about payment transactions. Even if this is a ponzi, it is still working out no need to be panic |
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The price of electricity changes
Explain. The price of electricity for producing bitcoin stays same, but the price of bitcoin drops. So the payment of BTC is changing, in time it won't be profitable any more because the electricity price for operating those device will be more than produced BTC. If bitcoin resume losing blood |
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how about this. a bitcoin is a bitcoin whether its 600$ or $100000 doesnt change its minability. increased hashrate of network and difficulty does. josh as apparently got dickloads of peta hashes so his bitcoin stream shouldnt decrease. so again why should the price of bitcoin in usd affect how many bitcoin you get? unless he isnt mining and using fiat in investments to create bitcoin where $$$ a bitcoin does matter. but he said he isnt doing that remember? they keep meticulous records to show sec as all cash has to come from mining. he said it....
he just sets himself up time and time again.
The price of electricity changes (paying electricity as US $) which constitutes %53 of earnings maybe more right now unfortunately |
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it's simple, Josh thinks he's the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and he is going to spread all his mined bitcoins to those who had faith in him.
how decadent.
A good explanation what can I say, will wait and see together. But if it is a scam, too early for it to collapse and I am making 35$ in each day from those hashlets who cares. Lets make some more and when time come we can sell and out. (35$ as BTC, not as Paycoin) By the way cointellect and ltcgear still paying and it is being more than 9 months even for cointellect. If that's a scam, as I sad too early for it to collapse. Josh will pay 20$ for each of those paycoins and make you trust him. After that time, I am sure even you will want to put some money on it |
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He's not involved, he is his son's father  who is. I insure you there is no place to hide and escape for that guy, we are talking about 200k+ customers if that turns into a scam it would be the biggest one in the history or at least be a very big and prominent one |
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There is one thing in that article Garza says,
“Why would a guy that already has a ton of money, and would get thrown in jail if he was involved in anything sketchy, be involved in a scam?”
I think that's right, why?
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I guess I just don't understand the reasoning behind the hashlets not paying jack shit. I have scrypt hashing power over at Genesis-Mining that is doing just fine....so why are hashlets doing so bad?
Simple, Josh wanted to stop paying out in BTC and give out hashpoint coupons. He wanted people to keep throwing money at him while he didn't have to give any back. If you think it's because the market is bad you are a fool. This was all manipulation by Josh...all part of his scheme.
I don't know much about genesis mining, but I know they are legit and trustworthy company. So may I ask you how much btc genesis paying for 1 mh hash power and what is the cost of that hash power? Thank you in advance |
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To me Its a scam. Plain and simple. If you don't believe it is then you and your mind are free to buy and sell to whomever you like. None of us are doing business. GAW is doing business and I believe illegally and unethically. How you believe everything with GAW is on the up and up is far beyond me. I have to say you are either completely delusional or purely greedy.
I am not talking about a mistake or a typo. Everything that comes out of his mouth is unintelligible. That is NOT a mistake. There is no need for anyone here to have to attempt and decipher what the hell hes trying to say. He has no business trying to have an intelligent conversation when he is a far from intelligent as I've come across in a long time.
I mentioned my education solely because you stated I was a grammar nazi. And yes I will continue to point it out until people either stop doing it or take the time to make what they're trying to say read correctly. If you can't speak/write properly you do not belong in an intelligent conversation. I will never budge from that stance.
You are just an idiot, and a grammar Nazi. Using same arguments on all of your conversations not specific to me. Blaming and tagging people for being idiot, uneducated, fool etc. etc. And I am really sorry for your students, you should be making their life miserable. |
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So, what you mean is, you have no options or choice, so you are along for the ride? I can understand that, too bad Josh fooled you and got your money in the first place.
I already made a ROI and my hash power being obsolete, the difficulty of ltc increased more than 25% in my mining period, the value of BTC dropped and electric cost stay same. So, Josh gave me an option and that option was a good one. Think it as a second chance, who else giving customers a second chance? I should be grateful for that chance |
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
Please make it fast and quick, I am ready to die and I can give my address no need for tracking |
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Let me guess, the part that says 400% APY looks good to you? And you don't care where the money is going to come from?
If it was 40% would it be better or worse? How about 4000%? I'm trying to determine your threshold for gullibility. Is there a point at which you would say "this sounds interesting but I want to know more", or do you just take everything at face value?
The part attract me, was the another option part. So instead of accepting my hardware being obsolete and producing less(This was reality). I got a chance to join that ICO. Actually, I don't even care %400 part, if I am able to get a little more than what I paid for, I would be more than happy. (it would be pure profit, already make a ROI) And the %400 increase is just a part of crypto economy lets look at bitcoin chart. What happened after sep 24?  |
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Doesn't every ponzi payout fantastically before it all collapses? What exactly is your argument here...because it sounds like you don't have one.
The problem is they are not paying out fantastically, they are just paying what those hashlet pools are paying for. At the best times of that investment zen pool was paying %50 more than others. So Josh, have a right to say, your hardware being obsolete and new hashlets will release with more hash power and different algorithms But this guy working hard to make his customers happy and come with an idea. The idea looks good to me. Instead of accepting low payouts and obsolete hardware(this is what other people are doing right now), we have right to invest on pay coin. I don't know is it work or not but don't understand what makes it a bad investment either. |
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Please don't anyone engage him. I will not even read anything else he types. He is extremely uneducated and ignorant and arguing with him is like picking a fight with the crippled kid. IGNORE
Please stop using my grammar to evaluate me. Just because you born in a English speaking country, or have better English teacher. You can't use my English for proving anything. This is a kind of racism. I am making money by writing code and you are doing nothing probably. Are you living with your mother? |
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Carlo Pietro Giovanni Guglielmo Tebaldo Ponzi sued too, was the scam legit? It doesn't mean shit.... Ponzi's rapid rise naturally drew suspicion. When a Boston financial writer suggested there was no way Ponzi could legally deliver such high returns in a short period of time, Ponzi sued for libel and won $500,000 in damages. If you are able to get your payment for your hashlets in BTC and pool rates are OK, you can't call this as ponzi. Josh see customer unhappiness because of low payouts of their hashlets instead of ignoring them came with an idea. The idea was pay coin so this was logic. You are still able to get your payout in BTC but pool rates of those LTC pools are dropped in time because of ltc difficulty increase Think about a BTC cloud company, or just a machine. You bought the machine and in time it would be useless because of difficulty increase right. At that time, can you sue the hardware producer because they are selling you a defective product? |
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I hope you're smart enough to see the irony of your post. Imagine someone strolling into hashtalk and posting something like this with "shills" instead of "trolls", how well would that go?
If you really wanted GAW and PayCoin and their other doodads to look good the last thing you should be doing is calling names and making it all look like "trolls against GAW". Using your own logic, do you work for GAW's competition perhaps? Because what you're trying to do here along with your comrades on twitter, reddit, press release comments, etc is more likely to hurt than help.
This is free advice, going forward it's going to be 1 PayCoin each.
I don't care whether I am hurting or helping. I already made a ROI from this investment. So anything after that point will be profit. What I am trying to say, you are just working for GAW with intentionally or not, if you against that company use legal methods instead. There are ways to understand the truth but you are just talking. Use legal methods to understand if you have any suspicion on that business. If that Josh guy talks about some firms, ask those firms to confirm their relationship with that company, because if he is lying this is a crime. Otherwise all the thing you are going to say make me think you are working for that company. |
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