What's with
1468 2011-02-25 10:11:58 1:13:34 75678 xxxxxx 110332 invalid
If you had actually read every post in this thread like you said, then you would already know that that means that we (the pool) submitted a valid solution for Block 110331 AFTER somebody else had already submitted a valid solution for Block 110331. Therefor, our solution was discarded. And WHICH OTHER post explained this SMART ASS
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What's with
1468 2011-02-25 10:11:58 1:13:34 75678 xxxxxx 110332 invalid
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I got Questions so I"M A TROOL
MORE BS
I won't even comment on WHAT "THE GECK" is
If you don't like Slush's pool, feel free use another or mine solo. If your concerns are valid, others will be doing the same and Slush will adjust to meet his customer's needs or go out of business. I personally don't think your concerns are valid, and will continue to use Slush's pool (for the short time remaining that mining with a single GPU is worthwhile). My concerns deserve answers PERIOD Calling me names and telling me to not use the pool are bs Why can't these questions be answered ? What are you people hiding ?? For crying out loud this guy running the pool is from god knows where he can quit tomarrow and take all the remaning coins with him
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are you working on it, slush?
Yes, I'm working on it right now. Pretty complex task, trust me. And please, don't feed trolls. I got Questions so I"M A TROOL MORE BS I won't even comment on WHAT "THE GECK" is
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This board is a JOKE
bottom line you get what SLUSH pays you period Don't complain or it won't be seen
He was dropping PAID donation to 1% When ... Next Xmas of what yr
I think this score payout nonsense is BS Just an excuse to screw the little miner It makes NO sence what does it accomplish Who gets the benefit ? A lot of work for what purpose ?
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Guess I just don't get it how is the new scoring system FAIR Why are Early shares devalued A Share is a share I'm upping what i do and getting about the same reward Slush explained in extreme depth why the score/share changes were made and how they lead to nearly exactly the same average rewards over time. And even posted charts to prove it. That's my point "OVERTIME" overtime don't seem fair what i'm doing now or did in the past Why is it fair to say take a smaller pay out this round at the end of the day we'll catch you up if your still arround I can't see unequal shares as being fair I've doubled or better my hash rate for next to nothing I understand the cheating problem was people comming in at the last moment This new method just favors those finding shares in the last moments HOW is that any different What you make per round is irrelevant. The only thing that is relevant is what you make over time. What you make per round is subject to many many different variables that are out of your control. What you make overtime is directly controlled by your hashrate (and difficulty). If I live that long I think you are WRONG it's still luck of the draw I've had some of those las minuite or short runs NO BIG WIN
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Guess I just don't get it how is the new scoring system FAIR Why are Early shares devalued A Share is a share I'm upping what i do and getting about the same reward Slush explained in extreme depth why the score/share changes were made and how they lead to nearly exactly the same average rewards over time. And even posted charts to prove it. That's my point "OVERTIME" overtime don't seem fair what i'm doing now or did in the past Why is it fair to say take a smaller pay out this round at the end of the day we'll catch you up if your still arround I can't see unequal shares as being fair I've doubled or better my hash rate for next to nothing I understand the cheating problem was people comming in at the last moment This new method just favors those finding shares in the last moments HOW is that any different bobR, the pool if voluntary. If you don't like it, mine on your own. That way you don't have to worry about concepts of "fairness" or "statistics". If slush sees ways that people are getting paid disproportionately from the work they put in, I'm happy that he changes the rules so that it stops that from happening. If you don't, get out of the pool. The amount you make each second, each minute, each hour is inconsequential if you mine as slush's pool is designed to be used. If you don't use his product as designed, then you will have a worse experience. And the cheating problem was those coming in at the beginning and then leaving. Please, read the posts before becoming irate. For those who don't want to bother reading it, the optimal strategy is to join the pool at the start of a new round and stop pooled mining after 43.5% fraction of the current difficulty of shares was contributed and start mining solo. This strategy will bring 28% of extra income compared to only pooled or only individual mining.
I've READ EVERY POST IN THIS DAMN THREAD stop being a blow hard
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Guess I just don't get it how is the new scoring system FAIR Why are Early shares devalued A Share is a share I'm upping what i do and getting about the same reward Slush explained in extreme depth why the score/share changes were made and how they lead to nearly exactly the same average rewards over time. And even posted charts to prove it. That's my point "OVERTIME" overtime don't seem fair what i'm doing now or did in the past Why is it fair to say take a smaller pay out this round at the end of the day we'll catch you up if your still arround I can't see unequal shares as being fair I've doubled or better my hash rate for next to nothing I understand the cheating problem was people comming in at the last moment This new method just favors those finding shares in the last moments HOW is that any different
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Guess I just don't get it how is the new scoring system FAIR Why are Early shares devalued A Share is a share I'm upping what i do and getting about the same reward
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You could set up variables in that bat file to handle passwd login etc if you ever change those would be only one change at the top instead of in 3-4 places in I was getting tired of typing the long lines of code evertime i wanted to start Poclbm or Rpcminer-cpu, so i made a startup menu for them Just put Poclbm en rpcminer-cpu in the same directory and define the right directory and username.workername in the Startminers.bat Save this code as StartMiners.bat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ @echo off REM 1. Put both programs in one directory REM 2. Adjust the directory for right program directory at rule 25 REM 3. Adjust the account and password names for both miners at rule 27 to 30 REM 4. Save as startminers.bat cls :menu echo. echo. echo ***************************************************************** echo. echo Bitcoin CPU and GPU Miners Startmenu echo. echo ***************************************************************** echo. echo. echo 1 - Start RPCMiner with 1 CPU/Thread to khash/s, ctrl c to stop echo. echo 2 - Start RPCMiner with 2 CPU/Threads to khash/s, ctrl c to stop echo. echo 3 - Start PoclbmMiner on GPU to khash/s, ctrl c to stop echo. echo 4 - Exit echo. echo. cd "C:\Users\yourpc\Downloads\Bitcoin\rpcminer" SET /P M=Type 1, 2, 3, or 4 then press enter: IF %M%== 1 start rpcminer-cpu -url=http://mining.bitcoin.cz:8332 -user=accountname.workername -password=password -statsurl=http://mining.bitcoin.cz/stats/json/ -threads=1 IF %M%== 2 start rpcminer-cpu -url=http://mining.bitcoin.cz:8332 -user=accountname.workername -password=password -statsurl=http://mining.bitcoin.cz/stats/json/ -threads=2 IF %M%== 3 start poclbm --host=mining.bitcoin.cz --port=8332 --user=accountname.workername --pass=password --device=0 IF %M%== 4 GOTO EOF cls GOTO MENU
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How do reboots of your puter, restarts of mining effect ?
You disconnect from the pool. When your computer starts again, you can reconnect. You take the risk of submitting work at the time when the pool finds a block, thereby reducing your payout via the score system. Thought that was the case been working on one puter guess i just take the loss with all the reboots At least I got it starting on reboots now
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How do reboots of your puter, restarts of mining effect ?
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hah you should do that more often, just nailed 3 blocks in <30 minutes.
Haha Three servers are up and running. Looks like it helped, invalid shares should be much less often. ok I hate to be stupid How does this work with 3 servers Think i got the new method part smaller payout but more of them = the same daily profit
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Like I said color me gone somebodys later share isnt worth crap if didnt contribute first
bad day shit it's been this way since slush changed his payout per share was fair even with the possible cheating THIS IS NOT
No, payouts/block went down significantly when the GHash/Sec being contributed nearly doubled, thus making your tiny portion less significant. But, that alone would still average to the same amount of payout per day or week since we'd be solving more blocks. But, then the difficulty also adjusted upwards by ~40%. THAT is what has reduced your daily/weekly payout. giving the last share more is not fair to those that got him there
You obviously don't understand how this works. This is like playing the lottery. The actions beforehand have ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING on the outcome of the next play. What you contributed early did absolutely nothing to increase the odds of somebody solving a block shortly there after. And you also obviously know nothing about statistics and variance. Over time, you will average out to exactly the same total daily/weekly payout due to sometimes submitting shares at the beginning and sometimes submitting shares at the end. Look at the graphs that Slush posted when he made this change. They conclusively show that everything works out nearly exactly the same (except for severely punishing cheaters) over time. ok I back off for a while but i dissagree you are correct it's like the loto EXCEPT in a pool what part is done by each individual share contributes equally to finding the correct answer or from your statement no one result is any better than any other Which is what i said later submissions should have no benefit over early submissions oh dificulty went up I've not see it...I'm seeing more shares contributed for less pay back
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it's been this way since slush changed his payout per share was fair even with the possible cheating Yes, the new scoring somewhat favors faster contributors (who will have a lower ratio of stale shares and a better chance of generating shares closer in time to the pool hitting) - But then, the entire BTC infrastructure favors horsepower over participation, so either take your few pennies a day, or go solo and pray that you ever hit a block within the next few years. OR, start your own purely-proportional shared pool. Simple as that. Personally, even as a somewhat-penalized low-h/s contributor, I greatly appreciate what Slush has done for us by making it possible to generate any BTC at all without a high-powered GPU to throw at the task. How is FAVORING any contributers fair the faster they can hash is enough advantage they get a bigger partial of the coins for more shares screwing those that only contribute a few shares is hardly fair especially because they got them early in the go
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Like I said color me gone somebodys later share isnt worth crap if didnt contribute first
bad day shit it's been this way since slush changed his payout per share was fair even with the possible cheating THIS IS NOT
giving the last share more is not fair to those that got him there
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.00000209 coin pay out 39646 total shares REALLY that's BS 39646 shares contributed who is getting all the coins not the shares even after deducting 2 for you 48/39646 is .0012107 NOT EVEN CLOSE to a full share how can i have a fraction of a share ? Somebody is getting a free ride Who's Idea of fair is this Send me some of what they were smokin
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Oh and I thought the IMPOSED FEE was reduced to 1% as announced days ago
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This new deal is supposed to be fair Ya right before i got a few pennies per round a coin or half coin in a week maybe more now its imaginary .001, .0009 , e-8 wait 2 days for .o1 Then wait hrs to get .1 coin in you wallet Email says it's sent but another hr before it hits your wallet Thats bs 7 shares for .ooo8 coin How is that fair was better before
COLOR ME GONE
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the pay out was so low I spent more on electric penalizing early shares is not the way to go
...said bobR after three rounds of (probably) bad luck. (But if you mine using CPU, you are probably right. The electricity cost more than you mine. It is just the nice way how to get your first bitcoins to play with - except Bitcoin Faucet). maybe it was just luck but 0E-8 pay out sheesh I don't mind getting a fraction but thats one step above ZERO
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