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221  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Julian Assange to turn himself in to the US on: January 19, 2017, 05:22:09 PM
You read the new update on the article ? since this story was posted, Mr Assange's lawyer has suggested that the clemency granted to Chelsea Manning is unsatisfactory and he will not accept extradition.

ROFL. Assange is not a complete idiot to turn himself over to the CIA. They would torture him for days, before murdering him. No one has damaged the CIA more than Assange and his Wkileaks.
He certainly caused great harm to U.S. and stained the reputation of the CIA. Now it is the past and intelligence agencies can go about it to find out the channels of information. Why can't there be such a situation?

Or maybe the CIA stained itself by violating more human rights and international laws than a lots of dictatorships?

Maybe the problem isn't Assange but USA?
And maybe we should begin telling them to fuck off?
222  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Isn't Islam a religion of hate and violence, not peace and love? on: January 19, 2017, 05:20:20 PM
Muslims are attacking the entire civilized world. In the world of arguing with them to communicate cultural. Nonsense! It's impossible to communicate at all. We need to ban all Muslims entry to the culture of the country.

Once the Muslims are admitted, then there is no going back. There is not a single country, among the 200+ UN members, where the Muslim population is decreasing. Once they are admitted, then that is it. The country is never going to be the same.
All countries where the population is more stupid than the donkeys increase their population. They breed warriors to conquer new territory because they are already ruined. The conditions of life and health of children does not interest them.

THIS IS SO DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMB IT BURNS MY EYES

Did you ever hear of the words "demographic transition"??
This is a perfectly known and logical period of times where your conditions of life upgrades, reducing death rate, while your birthrate hasn't adapted yet.
It happens to ALL nations when they reach a certain technical level, and "Muslim countries" are no exceptions! We did that, USA did that, whole Asia did that and Africa is doing that currently. Muslim countries are somehow between Asia and Africa in term of demographic transition.

"They breed warriors to conquer new territory because they are already ruined" you mean like what USA has always done?  Grin
223  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Isn't Islam a religion of hate and violence, not peace and love? on: January 19, 2017, 04:32:05 PM
Islam is not a religion of hate,the problems most Muslim scholar are having is that they miss interpret the quoran,majority of them are the main cause because they twist and miss interpret the sermon by instigating violence as you can see there many Islamic sect with different doctrines and believe,countries like Saudi Arabia ,Kuwait, Tunisia are liberal Muslim while some countries in the middle east I insight violence in their countries, Islam is a peaceful religion it is just that some scholars miss interpret it

How do we know you're not twisting and misinterpreting the Quran?

Well, suppose you took the Koran and put it in the hands of 100 juries.  You ask them to interpret it and apply their conclusions to specific situations. 

After they deliberate the results will not all be the same.  Some of the juries will support terrorism.  Some will support killing those who try to leave Islam, those who are gays.  Some will support stoning women and cutting hands and feet off.

That's reality.   Deal with it.  Islam owns terrorism.
Muslims are attacking the entire civilized world. In the world of arguing with them to communicate cultural. Nonsense! It's impossible to communicate at all. We need to ban all Muslims entry to the culture of the country.
No. People are defending themselves from our multiple invasions, our political, physical and economical attacks.
And they do that through "terrorism".
But what YOU call terrorism I call it just war.
We got bombers, destroyers, tanks. They got suicide bombers.
Wanna guess who is killing the most people?
224  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Isn't Islam a religion of hate and violence, not peace and love? on: January 19, 2017, 04:30:29 PM
Islam is not a religion of hate,the problems most Muslim scholar are having is that they miss interpret the quoran,majority of them are the main cause because they twist and miss interpret the sermon by instigating violence as you can see there many Islamic sect with different doctrines and believe,countries like Saudi Arabia ,Kuwait, Tunisia are liberal Muslim while some countries in the middle east I insight violence in their countries, Islam is a peaceful religion it is just that some scholars miss interpret it

How do we know you're not twisting and misinterpreting the Quran?

Well, suppose you took the Koran and put it in the hands of 100 juries.  You ask them to interpret it and apply their conclusions to specific situations. 

After they deliberate the results will not all be the same.  Some of the juries will support terrorism.  Some will support killing those who try to leave Islam, those who are gays.  Some will support stoning women and cutting hands and feet off.

That's reality.   Deal with it.  Islam owns terrorism.

...
Oooooooooook so I guess we don't care about the whole Leviticus part of the Bible then?
Or could it be that all religions have barbaric rules in themselves and the level of education of a country allows it to go further than those rules?
Cause stoning women is just for Islam yes. But burning people alive is a Christian specificity.
225  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Julian Assange to turn himself in to the US on: January 19, 2017, 04:28:32 PM
Another feather in Obama's cap as president. His final curtain call some might say.

Donald Trump will be sworn in as President on january 20th.

Are you sure this won't be a feather in Trump's cap?

 Smiley
So you say that the accomplishments that Obama has done will be transitioned to Trump automatically since he will be a the next sitting president?
That would be a thorn in alot of people's back sides if you ask me. Undecided

An accomplishment?

Putting in prison a citizen for having reveal to its brothers and sisters what you did bad isn't an accomplishment...
It's not only a crime, it's also completely immoral.
226  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Julian Assange to turn himself in to the US on: January 18, 2017, 09:09:17 PM
I thought it wouldn't happen but wiki-leaks founder has come out of hiding and ready to turn himself in to US authorities.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/julian-assange-wikileaks-hand-himself-chelseas-manning-commute-barack-obama-extradition-sweden-a7532706.html

Another feather in Obama's cap as president. His final curtain call some might say.

That would be the saddest thing ever...
The guys is a fucking modern hero.
Him and Snowden are just humans that decided to respect the international declaration on human rights rather than some awful laws voted by an oligarchy...
Fucking heroes.

Any policy is a very dirty business. When someone publishes secret documents for me he was a criminal. I am opposed to justify it. No democracy can not forgive betrayal. It could end badly.


So I guess if the government assault your home and kill your children you wouldn't want to see someone revealing the proofs they could have?
Because that's exactly the idea.
They literally had document showing violation of international treaties and human rights.
Not publishing those documents is a crime against humanity.

You betray your government when you attack it and while they did nothing wrong.
When the government spit on laws, human rights and international treaties, it is your DUTY to fight back.
227  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world on: January 18, 2017, 08:14:17 PM
It has always been the same, and it will always be the same. Nobody will or can do shit about it.
False. Today is the first time where we have such a strong wealth inequality

There is no point in being jealous. They became rich through their hard work. For example, Bill Gates put decades of effort for Microsoft, before the Windows OS and MS Office became popular. None of them were born with a silver spoon in their mouth.
Sure, they clearly deserve owning half of the world. I mean, they clearly produce a work that deserves that  Roll Eyes
How dumb can you be?

it is true only 8 richest man, and there are a quarter people on earth who live in poverty.

They are poor because they were producing dozens of children each, rather than concentrating on education. Even if the super-rich donates a part of their fortune to these people, they will return to poverty after a short while. There is only one permanent method to end poverty - family planning.

Oh ok, this dumb...
Sure sure sure, I mean clearly if there is not a single Kenyan who's a billionaire, it's just because they chose to not work and study at school. Clearly it's THEIR fault, we were all born equal and those are just stupid enough to go up.
You're ignored, I'm tired of your stupidity. You don't deserve anything but to go back to school...
Unfortunately very few of these people earned their money thanks to the outstanding abilities. They are all heirs of the ruling clans. Power and money inherited. It says that the world is ruled not people, and money.

Yes, and the worst par is that even those who earned this money don't deserve to pwn half of the world!

Yeah billgate created a huge company!
Yeah Zuckerberg had a brillant idea!
Do they deserve to own so much? Does that mean that without them the world would have beeb so different?

No. Without bill Gates someone would have had the idea of PC sooner or later. And in this case rather soon... and what did Zuckerberg bring to the world apart from a chat platform with loads of adds?
I agree with you. Only I can tell you that Zuckerberg and bill gates are not the worst in this list. They even did anything. What did the Morgans, the Rothschilds? Only plunder people and the state. I am against these people. They causes of crises in the world.

Yeah that's what happens in low growth society...

When you get high growth, inheritance isn't that important or bad.
You can really compensate it by work and wealth creation.
But now that we're in a natural growth system we can't go past the legacy aspect!
228  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Julian Assange to turn himself in to the US on: January 18, 2017, 08:12:59 PM
I thought it wouldn't happen but wiki-leaks founder has come out of hiding and ready to turn himself in to US authorities.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/julian-assange-wikileaks-hand-himself-chelseas-manning-commute-barack-obama-extradition-sweden-a7532706.html

Another feather in Obama's cap as president. His final curtain call some might say.

That would be the saddest thing ever...
The guys is a fucking modern hero.
Him and Snowden are just humans that decided to respect the international declaration on human rights rather than some awful laws voted by an oligarchy...
Fucking heroes.
229  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Isn't Islam a religion of hate and violence, not peace and love? on: January 18, 2017, 08:11:03 PM
my opinon, dont talk islam if you not learn islam, when you study Islam, you will know what Islam is like  Smiley


Just a thought, do muslims still continue to help convert people to Islam?

Of course like for every religion.
As far as I know only judaism isn't really helping to convert. Because jews are a people before being a religion.
But for all other religions, if you want to convert the actual believers will help you to discover their religion.
230  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [Collection] Most useful Bitcoin Tools on: January 16, 2017, 11:33:04 AM
...

Here are two BTC tools that I have recently liked and used:

1) viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/  <--- a tool to push along (speed confirmation of) small trx where fee payment was only BTC0.0001


2) the taint analysis tool at blockchain.info (when looking at a specific address)  <--- to check effectiveness of BTC mixing


I too look forward to seeing other BTC tools of interest.

Hey!
That's damn cool!
Does it really work? That's really excellent, I can use that on a daily basis!
I try to put the right fee in order to not have to wait to much of course, but you know sometimes you just didn't the huge pic of transactions!
Or you wanted to put a low fee to go slow but cheap, and you're able to accelarate by that!

You used it?
231  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is it safe ? on: January 16, 2017, 11:30:05 AM
1/Site not known
2/Site has no official thread on bitcointalk
3/Site has the same shitty-free design as all the others
4/Site has no reputation and was never seen

Scam.
Or if not scam we should hear about it on the forum soon enough.
But for now it's scam.
232  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: January 16, 2017, 11:22:34 AM
-snip-

Hey Deisik,

seems like you know and support at least a bit the idea of btc bank.
Do you know good web wallets that take care of the fees? Apart Xapo which I reaaaaaaaaally don't like it...
233  Economy / Exchanges / Re: XCOINS.IO LEGIT OR SCAM on: January 14, 2017, 11:02:03 PM
The idea is not... Bad in itself.

I was looking at the site wondering "why didn't I ever read about that".
But clearly a 1% fee yeah, a 15%/30% is pure scam.

I would have maybe tried it with low interest. Cause the principle is worth trying, but it can be nothing but a huge usual ponzi scam...
234  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Mining Power Growing Bigger But Greener on: January 14, 2017, 10:57:08 PM
that calculation is at 2015/2016 calculations. (motherboard.vice article wrote march 2016 using data from before that date)

here is an update using hashrate of this week

today's hashrate converts to at most 200,000 S9 ASICS (<2.6m Thash)

at 1.3kwh per asic =260000kwh (260mw)

asia's 5cent electric = $13,000 an hour
USA's 10cent electric = $26,000 an hour
UK's 20cent electric= $52,000 an hour

asia's 5cent electric = $312,000 a day
USA's 10cent electric = $624,000 a day
UK's 20cent electric= $1,248,000 a day

asia's 5cent electric = $113,880,000 a year
USA's 10cent electric = $227,760,000 a year
UK's 20cent electric= $455,520,000 a year

enjoy

by the way UK miners are rare.. so world combined electric cost per year is between $113m-$227m
much less than last years estimate

Funny, it's not as much as I would have thought.

0.2 billions... That's really not much when you think about it!
Well, it's 10 times what facebook costs of electricity.
Don't think it's really an "ecological" problem.
235  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 5 necessary Tools in the Bitcoin Industry on: January 14, 2017, 12:11:47 PM
1. Follow the Bitcoin price to the moon on Bitcoinity.com
2. Explore your transactions on
Tradeblock.com Blockchain Explorer
3. Follow up Bitcoin adpotion with Coin Dance
4. Find the perfect fee using bitcoinfees.21.com
5. Watch the queue grow at Bitcoinqueue

1. you only need to follow the price if you are a day trader, otherwise it is destructive to watch it every second.
2. use a wallet! and it gives you all you need to know about your transactions. besides as long as there are known block explorers such as blockchain.info, blocktrail, .... no need to use an unknown one.
3. coin.dance has many good information nothing of them is directly showing to bitcoin adoption
4. again use a wallet that offers that feature, but yeah this is the only option that i am going to give you.
5. why? Cheesy

1/following the price is important, don't want to miss a rise of 400$ in 1 day no?
2/Exploring is far more interesting, it allows you to track moves of btc and identify different accounts in fact linked together
3/I don't know this site so can't really say :3
4/a wallet will never do this as good as you. It's really important to put the RIGHT fee considering your needs, i don't put the same rate by kbyte depending on the situation!
5/directly linked to 4. High queue=high fee.
236  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Whats the best bitcoin news site? on: January 14, 2017, 12:07:44 PM
Why looking for a btc news site?
You want the best btc news site of the web?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=1.0

The forum is the best place to grab intels.
Evryone is talking when anything of importance happens in the btc world!
237  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help me get a 10 for my final thesis!! on: January 14, 2017, 11:59:46 AM
Doesn't google docs displaying address IP of visitors to form creator? Wink That would be serious privacy violation and risk that if you mention u have bitcoins your computer will be targeted for any loopholes.
Someone know its secure or not? Better to use regular and known poll sites.

Really?
You sure of yourself? Because google docs are common things
I answer at least 3 google docs mails a week I'd say. So if they're not secured I'd like Google to at least inform me xD
238  Economy / Lending / Re: Need 0.1 btc loan ( collateral fj account ) on: January 14, 2017, 11:55:40 AM
i'm so sorry,
I mean,
I'll collateral account bitcointalk and fortunejack,

because there already are signature,
No one wants an account enrolled in FortuneWhack's signature campaign.They only hire shit posters spamming the heck out of the gambling section.Taking your post quality into consideration,I'd not even take than account as a collateral for 2 dollars.

Ahahahah xD
That buuuuuuuuuuuuuurns xD

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/011/848/cold.jpg

Anyway even if that was a bit harsh it's not false. Considering your posting history your account can hardly be considered as a collateral and especially for a freaking 0.1 loan.
239  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Isn't Islam a religion of hate and violence, not peace and love? on: January 11, 2017, 09:30:21 PM
A big big no! You were fooled by news and all media reports out there.
Fooled? Are you suggesting all these bombings, shootings and lorry rampages have been fabricated by the media?
You talking about how we are currently and for the last 20 years if not more, bombing shooting and destroying entire Muslim nations around the world but the media don't say a word about it?
The news only reports news that is newsworthy. One set of rare events gets more coverage than another that is more common.
For example, bad weather, which happens relatively rarely, always gets disproportionate coverage compared with good weather coverage.

I'm not saying it right, I'm just saying that's the way it works.


Of course. But that means you should keep in mind when talking about how "they make bombings and shootings" and else, that we're doing far worse to them and we've been doing this for freaking decades.
So let's not all start acting like little virgins who get unfairly attacked while they were completely innocent.
We attacked first. We destroyed entire nations without reason. We killed dozens of thousands of civilians.
How do you want them to deal with us in any way but with hate, violence and revenge of desire?
240  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Isn't Islam a religion of hate and violence, not peace and love? on: January 11, 2017, 09:25:14 PM

Christians NO LONGER burn people alive?
Christians did much worse than what some Muslims are doing currently. But Islam is a religion 600 years younger than Catholicism.
Wanna know what we were doing 600 years ago?
That's right. Spanish inquisition.
So don't act like they're more barbaric than we have ever been k?

The bulk of the human race has kind of moved on and advanced over the last 600 years,  just waiting on one religous group to catch up to the rest of us.

Seems like you are justiftying current attrocities by pointing out events from hundreds of years ago.

Or maybe I'm the only one trying to answer the thread question?

The question is about Islam RELIGION being a religion of hate and violence. All I'm saying is that Islam isn't mature enough compared to a religion which is 600 years older! If you want to talk about Muslims then that's a DIFFERENT subject! Islam and Muslims are not the same thing, so don't try to make me say what I didn't say.

And I would add that human race evolved yeah, but some parts of the world were a bit too busy with our armies bombing the shit out of them last decades, so they no longer have any kind of education because they no longer have the buildings to teach anything... And humans without education are not far from the middle age people.
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