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221  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do you care? on: December 30, 2017, 12:07:20 PM
Roulette, slots, you should forget these kind of games.
Based on probabilities only! Why do you think you will win in the long term?

Poker, sports betting requires more than luck/bad luck. Try these instead.
My 2cents.
I sports betting and I cannot even be profitable when there is no house edge so I think with slots the more my chances are lower. Knowing our game will help us win because that way we will continue to work to improve our strategy and it would not be possible in luck based games so we need to understand the difference. If we gamble for fun then there is no problem with whatever we choose because entertainment is our main priority and losing is a very normal situation.
I understand where you are coming. To be fair, having an edge over the bookmaker can be quite hard, it requires dedications, odds monitoring, and a lot of experience. People who are beginners in sports betting will always lose money, they will learn the hard way.
To know if a price is value or not value, it takes time.

We say closing odds at Pinnacle are usually a near perfect representation of the real probabilities of the different outcome on one event.
Yes, you are absolutely right. Especially for beginners, should not bet in large numbers. Those who are already experienced certainly start gambling in the same way.
I haven’t seen any amateur betting with bigger amount then he can afford because they are well aware of the fact that without experience they would not be able to win the game. Luck is also important but experience will allow them to tackle some situation during the game which can end their game if they are unable to do so. Exactly, these gamblers who have a lot of experience had also started in the same way.

I think it is about the game what you played for because in dice games i think experience is not really into it because it is more likely base on luck but on the other games like card games because the experience more likely to win the game because luck is not the one who could make you win but the cards, sort of it has a low luck you need and other is strategy and experience.
222  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: losing 50 bitcoins gambling on: December 30, 2017, 11:50:31 AM
It will give me a heartache even if i just lose less than 1 bitcoin. So probably it will give me a heart attack and put me in a coma for a lifetime if i am going to lose that big sum of btc. For the riches it may be nothing to them. That is the reality of life.

Aw,  sad but true. Sometimes I think that riches are wasting their money for gambling but on the other side of society there are people who suffers from poverty. But if I were to lose that amount of bitcoins I might be expressionless that moment, and got silent for a few days or weeks 😂 haha.

Since 50btc is really big amount of money though how rich you are 50btc is really big amount of money it can really touch the heart of the person who own that big amount og money. Still if you lose that big amount of money i think you cant express how you feel how mad you are or how down you are , you will not understand your feelings. Though you are rich and have a lot of money still i think it could be difficult to you to lose that big amount of money but nothings you can do about it just to move on.
223  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where and which part of day do you gamble? on: December 30, 2017, 09:19:10 AM
for me the typical time to gamble around 12pm to 4pm it is less hectic and more convenient with if I happen to have a struggle time doing some bet that would be around 12am and so. it less more creepy and the ppl also are creepy. Cry
Seriously you gamble at those times? I don't have a certain time range of when to gamble.

I just gamble whenever I want and I think there's a need of doing it so. Mostly I only gamble when I'm bored and want to have some fun.
I also even don't make any particular time to play gamble. whenever I get bored I will spend few minutes and play some casino games. sports betting depends on game and teams if my fav teams are playing I will take time and place my bet and I usually check it evening time.

Since sports betting is really depending if there will be a play or game by this day or om that exact time then you could say that on that time.you mostly bet  but on those dice games or other gambling games will most likely you will spend your time when you want sort of you want to play because you are bored or you want some entertainment then that is the right time.to.play
224  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you think billionaires invest in BTC? on: December 26, 2017, 12:42:01 PM
Millionaires invested in bitcoin from 2014 and on. Billionaires started investing since the start of 2017 and are still holding.

I think those millionaires who invested bitcoin in 2014 is most likely they will be billionaires right now because of its current price haha and those billionaires who invested right now  is going to be trillionaires sooner if the price is keeps rising. Bitcoin is getting famous world wide and mostly all of the people want to own a bitcoin and hold it for the future because it is good investment so i think billionaires will also bought bitcoin and hold it because it is a big money to them and a big profit.
225  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will alts crash again ? on: December 26, 2017, 12:33:11 PM
I think maybe, it is possible. I can say that Bitcoins price is totally drop and crash, because it almost reach, rather meet $1million, then it suddenly down to almost $13k. It is sad but true, and I think other altcoins will also drop down. But then,I still believe that it will recover before the year ends.


It starting to getting back to normal the price of altcoins right now, as i do see my porfolio right now it is not red days and  also it is not minus in my profit right now, it is getting back to normal with in the time. Will mostly the alts will crash when bitcoins really pumps really hard, that is what ive noticed , because of the lately pump of bitcoin the altcoins struggles a lot. Still i think if the bitcoins pumps really hard then also the altcoins will really dumps a lot again or crash.
226  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How did you get you bitcoin stolen? on: December 26, 2017, 12:26:05 PM
Hi all,
Just thought I'd start a thread on how not to get your bitcoin stolen and do this by learning from others.
It's all on our minds is our coins secure but we can do simple things to ensure they stay safe.
So any suggestions and stories on how yours got stolen would be great. Sorry if it brings up bad memories.

Many thanks for your time
Lex


Ive never been hack and i dont want to be hack. Mostly now i could read a lot of stories and also my friends told me that mostly of them get hack and someone also said that he losses his private key of his wallet in his computer . Well that cases will mostly impossible to get back your bitcoin, at first it is your fault because you are not taking good care of your  wallet or bitcoin and second is hackers can penetrate you because your password or you is too weak abouut it and not thinking about security.
227  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ☘☘☘ Futures Will Increase The Volatility Of Bitcoin ☘☘☘ on: December 26, 2017, 12:09:11 PM
Bitcon will be more famous like any currency in the whole world but the thing is are you ready if the currency still big or small. This one just a 10% possibility if the bitcoin going to small price in the future.

Still there is a possibility that it will really dump hard but i think it will happen in the future . There is nothing last forever they said , there will be the time that the bitcoin will be dead but before it will be dead im pretty sure that there will be new coin  that will replace its place. But for now we need to look forward to earn more bitcoin because also in the future it could be our future money , it would be our  money sort of cashless society they said.
228  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I dont like daytrading on: December 26, 2017, 11:52:48 AM
Daytrading is often presented as the fastest, shortest and easiest way to wealth. However this happens very rarely! Daytraders as a rule suffer serious financial losses in the first months of trading. Most of them never become professional traders because they quickly run out of money.

Agree day trading is one of the fastest way to earn profit because it is only day trading like hour by hour you are getting profit and you will cut it by the end of the day, will that is also one of the best strategy in trading that you want to earn profit with in that day but it really requires for me a lot of capital or investment because if you want to earn profit then i could say that you will need a lot of money because the movement of market is slow so meaning low profit if it pumps. 
229  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are the advantages of having Bitcoin? on: December 25, 2017, 01:26:18 PM
The only thing I know about Bitcoin is that it is a virtual 'money' but what are the other use of it? What are your advantages for having a bitcoin?  Roll Eyes
The benefits you will get with Bitcoin.
Your balance will increase every year as Bitcoin prices continue to rise.
I think Bitcoin is a very good investment place.

Agree like if you bought bitcoin last year, the price right now will really make you rich. Price of bitcoin last year is really affordable that you can afford to buy a lot but now it is sort of it is difficult to buy a whole bitcoin because of its price. I regret on not pursuing to buy a bitcoin last year now i do regret it. Though still i want to earn more in bitcoin . Investing in bitcoin is really good now a days because the demand of digital currency is keeps rising by this day.
230  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: December 25, 2017, 01:02:41 PM
Since it is almost a half year that ive sold my mco but still i do following this project because it is for me the one of the promising ico that ive ever join but still now the price seems pretty stable and it is not pump hard the same with the price way back september though still i do hoping that the final days of this year is really big year for the mco because december is the best year of mco because of the mco card. Though i think it will be delayed so hopefully it would be that january of 2018.
231  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will either go to $8000 or $20000. on: December 25, 2017, 12:24:30 PM
Which do you think is more likely to happen?
I think the bitcoin now only just corrections, after that the price will inevitably rise again. Bitcoin too popular right now so not going down to $8000.

Agree , getting famous will lead to a high demand that also lead to high price . WE all know that after it pumps it will really dumps but what ever dumps it keeps coming back . The price right now is the result of the lately pump of bitcoin it really pump high enough so there is nothing to do so it dumps but later on  it will pump again. It is like last year that it really pumps a lot by december and by the new year it is sort of dumps but seems pretty stable right now i hope that it will be stable or pumps by the year of 2018
232  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin may not be number one for long on: December 25, 2017, 05:30:43 AM
I don't think is possible for any alt coins to overtake Bitcoins in the near future. Ethereum which you use in your analysis is currently trading at 720 usd and Bitcoins is around 14000 usd.  A percentage difference of 1844%. How can ETH catch Bitcoins and overtake Bitcoins. What factors will cause that. I doubt it.

I think you are just  only looking for its price not on its capabilities, ETH is next to the bitcoin and ETH is one of  capable altcoins that will replace bitcoin but still it will take a time a long time . ETH has a lot of characteristics  like bitcoin though their network right now is really slow so they would  really implement a fork like bitcoin but in later on the price of ETH will goes up  just be patient enough.
233  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Should I sell my airdropped tokens quickly or hold on to them? on: December 24, 2017, 11:58:05 AM
Hello,
Yesterday I saw some increase in my total estimated token value, and today it dropped significantly.
It appears that a lot of people are selling their airdropped tokens as soon as they get them.
I have not sold a single token from airdrops, and with the exception of some them, they seem to be mostly losing value in time.
Should I do the same or hodl hoping that some of them may increase in value, closing the gap I lose in the process?

Mostly of the airdrops here in forum i join them and get a free coins, now first thing you will do is if you really need money on  that time then time to sell but there is but if the coin is promising like has a nice roadmap for the future and there are news everyday and has a update hold it for the future it would be up in a time because mostly those airdrop coins at first when listed to exchanges it is really dumps by those participants because they sell their coin so just wait in a moment before you sell it.
234  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what impact has gambling make in your life? on: December 24, 2017, 07:39:34 AM
In my day to day basis with work, I start seeing gambling as an opportunity to earn more and have more money knowing that if I win a certain bet, it would make me richer. That is the impact that I have created in my mind and it made me somewhat more a risk taker and it has given me more opportunities with my life.

You do realize as well that winning isn't guranteed so what you think your opportunity to get rich may very well be the reason you get broke? Gambling it seems are placed in high regards for you but that's how most addicted gamblers start, by seeing gambling as a good opportunity to get rich

If you are lucky enough then you could get rich in gambling but i think it is only one shot. Mostly of the people said that if you win easily the winnings will be gone easily too. Though if you are really into gambling so that you could be rich well i think it will lead you to addiction that leads to lot of debts and loan because you want to win back your losses unless you can manage your emotions on lossing a lot.
235  Other / Archival / Re: Have you ever won a Jackpot? on: December 23, 2017, 01:19:01 PM
Yes i experienced it ones the day before my birthday i trying to push my luck and bet on sweepstakes just 3 digits and in the next day i'm just shocked my number came out i can't express how happy i am i just won like 100$.

Thats huge it is sort it is your advance birthday gift to your self so that.you do have money to spend on your birthday. You are the lucky one on that day. On the other hand as my self I havent experience like the jackpot one it is sort of I do gamble but I am.not into jackpot because it has a low chance but if you will get it then it is big money. I hope I could experience it sooner or later
236  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I won $123 for few minutes on: December 23, 2017, 12:02:44 PM
well you've done a great job on that. I've been playing gambling for a couple of years and losing is way more than winning in my every games. If I could be lucky as you I'm gonna all in my bitcoin so i could make more larger profit. so i can win back my loss but it's risky to play with a large amount well however congrats Smiley

This is the biggest mistake going for all-in in any gambling games so better don't do it even though you know 100% your going to win in any game. Since you can't guess whether you're lucky or not in advance so it is not safe to bet a big amount in gambling. These winning will happen once awhile in gambling and we shouldn't motivate you with these results and spend more money on these games.
Correct, people win once or twice and they think they found a way to beat the casino when the truth is that they only got lucky and then they bet a huge amount of money and they lose and then accuse the casino of being rigged when they were the ones responsible for their mistakes.

I do know of a guy who go to gamble for the 1st time and he won like $2000. And before he start telling the next thing, i already know that he will go back and gamble. End up, he went back the next day but this time round, he end up losing about $3000 to $4000.
I have seen that as well, but people simply put do not want to understand that until it is too late, I have warned several of my friends about that and they do not listen then when they lose all their money I try to be understanding about their situation, and yet I know they have made a terrible mistake.
They do not trust our suggestions, and they only think to make an easy money. So whatever suggestions you give they will not listen to your words, This is common in gambling we can stop those who lose in 1st time attempt in gambling, but we can't stop those who make a profit in 1st attempt.

Agree mostly those people who are new to the gambling and easily win the game will most likely have a greed after winning it. As it states that he lost more money than he win yesterday that is a greed thinking of that he will win again so he is betting big amount of money to win more than yesterday though end up lossing , not thinking that he will loss a lot of money
237  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many Bitcoins needed for martingale on: December 23, 2017, 11:42:52 AM
Ive been into playing of dice game and tried martingale strategy it never worked for long. Actually it depends on your base bet, whatever strategy you have it will never worked good for long. Eventually you will lose the game and just waste of money.

You will really loss, its not mean that if you use martingale startegy is a sure win for you . It would really not for in the long run because mostly based on my experience at first you will win but later on lossing . It is not a waste of money if you are just playing for entertainment but the case of you is you play for profit and using that strategy you are just thinking that you will always win . Gambling is a cycle sometimes you win sometimes you loss
238  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It is not worth it, right? on: December 23, 2017, 10:00:56 AM
If you want to play luck games with a house edge against you and make money longterm it's of course not worth, but if you can afford to lose the money and spent a nice time while gambling it's definetely worth for me.
In gambling playing with the house edge ofcourse you will lose the game. Because gambling is just for entertainment for fun and not for an instant rich or will be benfits of. It is not worth it in gambling if you put your whole funds just play to entertain you.

Yeah in the long run you will likely lose due to the house edge but there is always the chance for a win in the short term.

It is much better to treat it as a form of entertainment and not try to get rich quick though. It is too easy to fall into the trap of risking higher and higher amounts until you lose it all if you are only concerned about winning.

For luck based games, it makes sense to treat them as entertainment while you try your hands on winning. I don't think you have a great chance of making any meaningful returns in such luck games but if you finally do it's very rewarding (like winning a jackpot).

I think mostly of the gambling games which is really rellying mostly on luck and a small of strategy. Dice games when is you are betting on a number if what will be the result but still you dont know what numbers you bet or what will you do so you only rellying on your feelings and your luck on that day . And it is the same mostly of the games unlike card games which is it is a pure strategy and also if you have luck that you have a nice cards on your hands. Though those jackpot games really difficult to win because of low chances but if you are lucky then you can have it
239  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: List of popular Betting Strategies on: December 23, 2017, 09:36:26 AM
Of course, a serious player should always be ready for experiments in order to eventually develop for himself an optimal and successful system or strategy. Only in this way can you achieve success in the long term.
longterm success you will never get just by experimenting., because experience is demanded ,, without experience any strategy you apply will not produce any results..
Of course, I here mean experienced players, since inexperienced and so rarely use the strategies for the game.

Mostly of the inexperienced players will morelikely they only bet without any bases or any strategies to win the game, as my self at the firsttime i gamble i only bet no strategies at all just bet and bet and win or lose. But later on when ive discover a ton of strategies on winning again i keep practicing it to win the game. Mostly now those who are experience gambler they develop their own strategy to win the games ,those who are really into gambling and also some of us is just trying out those strategy that they teach us.
240  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can maths help you win in gambling ? on: December 23, 2017, 08:38:22 AM
How math can help a gambler to win a game because as far as my knowledge is concerned, gambling is totally a luck dependent thing. It is just like crossing a river just by looking with your eyes on to other bank. If math really was so helpful for the gambler to win the game.

Then all gamblers who have a good knowledge of math would have never lost any game they have played in their lives. Math can only help the gambler to maintain his records.

It does not mean that you cant los eif you are good in math but it means that you have a good chance to know your chance. It is like you are going to have better knowledge of your chances so you could make better decision to stop or to continue. Although I think that most gambler will not bother with this kind of thing as they will choose to continue
math is one of the sciences that can predict every possible number out, the possibilities of winning in which the math can reasonably afford, because the online casino is created by the system, and the system has a code in which there is a count. and may be predicted by some people

Yes you can predict all possible number that would come out, but that doesn't change the fact that you cannot predict which number will come out on your next roll. The only thing you have is a set of possible numbers and nothing more than that. I guess that's the only thing being good at math can do. It may help in poker, like knowing the chance your hand will win but in games like dice, it's nothing.

Guessing is only just guessing, number is just always number and  it is not related to luck on what number would be the possible result. I do agree on you pal, you do have the possible numbers that will be the result but still you cant predict what will be the exact number that will show or that will result. You can calculate it with math with what is the highest percentage of result but still you dont know what is it.
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