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221  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [ASK] Komunitas Crypto di Jogjakarta? on: May 24, 2018, 09:50:23 PM
sudah ada, tapi masih kecil, baru rencana mau dibesarkan, sudah beberapa kali juga gathering, 2015 di rumahnya om Avan (exchanger indodax), 2017 di forest resto, ada juga mangkucrypto, orang-orangnya juga aktif diforum ini, basecampnya di belakang MCD jakal (rencana habis lebaran tahun ini mo pindah basecamp), sering ngumpul juga di mangku kopi, bulan ini kita start buat gedein komunitas jogja, baik trader maupun bounty hunters. Semoga terwujud. secepatnya kami update, nanti bikin thread di board lokal Indonesia.
222  Economy / Economics / Re: Blockchain Not Just About Bitcoin on: May 24, 2018, 09:40:30 AM
I heavily agree with this one, I really think that blockchain has taken it to the next level, people are starting to recognize blockchain's potential, back then it was all focused on bitcoin, and now blockchain's technology is really advanced and I think could be the future of currency, not only bitcoin but also every country will benefit from it, and the economy could possibly grow as well as blockchain will further be knowned throughout the world.
Blockchain is centralised data base management in transpercy and unhackable form which can be used in any industry my just bitcoin and transactions mainly in banking useful
and there is a great opportunity for fiat, taking part in adopting blockchain technology. I am sure, the next 5 years most banks in the world will use blockchain. and could be a financial transaction in the bank will run on the blockchain, this is one alternative bank to remain competitive with the crypto. by using blockchain, the existing transaction costs will be cheaper, but the bank still get a profit. the transaction process will also be faster and safer.

exactly the problem that I have faced when explaining Blockchain stuff to newbies. Most of them thing of blockchain and bitcoin as one and the same stuff. Takes real patience on my part to explain that Bitcoin is derived from blockchain and blockchain is the real technology behind all the cryptocurrency stuff happening around. Sounds hysterical that Bitcoin is more famous than the very foundation it is built on.
you are not alone, keep fighting. technological change is very rapid, we must be able to adjust to be part of the change, and can help many people to be able to sit at the same level, standing equally high. as well as bitcoin and blockchain, which provide many benefits to all, regardless of rich or poor, ordinary citizens or high officials, can all be involved.
223  Economy / Economics / Re: Blockchain Not Just About Bitcoin on: May 23, 2018, 02:32:02 PM
Encryption money is only actually block chain can affect the future of application in the small tip of the iceberg, through block chain technology bring convenience and safety of impartiality, will be extremely important impact on our future life.

Blockchain is a transparent way of storing information that no one can control and is very secure.

Blockchain technology may eventually lead to the demise of the banking industry, which may no longer require Banks.
this is done for banks that do not want no technological developments, and innovate sesui conditions of the times. if in the end the bank uses blockchain technology, then the banking will survive, even FIAT will remain on track. because when banks adopt blockchain. then the transaction will be faster, and compete with the crypto, even not impossible, if the transaction fee will be cheaper banking.
224  Economy / Economics / Re: Blockchain Not Just About Bitcoin on: May 23, 2018, 12:38:52 PM
As far as i am concern about this, it has been already talked and discussed several times in this forum since then. Of course blockchain technology is not only for bitcoin but for other cryptocurrencies also, or in short it was made for cryptpcurrency and how the people will manage their online currency. It doesn't really imply that bitcoin is the only reason why blockchain existed.
these days I try to find everything about blockchain, but outside bitcoin. the result is remarkable, it turns out almost blockchain users scattered throughout the world. and some sources also explain that blochain can be adopted by anyone without the creator's permission. as you say, blockchain is not just for bitcoin. and the fact is not even just for crypto currency.
225  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin vs world economy on: May 23, 2018, 08:01:25 AM
Bitcoin is not a country's currency, and is not owned or aligned in only one country. there is nothing to worry about banning and restricting bitcoin in a country. there are two options for you, which can relieve your worries, bitcoin as crypto currency, or bitcoin as a tradable asset. both have a good profit output.
226  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin really anonymous? on: May 22, 2018, 07:42:03 AM
there is no instant way to getting rich. every transactions on bitcoin is registered on a ledger called the blockchain. so, Its not anonymous, every transactions made are publicized to the entire bitcoin network, and everyone can track the transaction.
227  Economy / Economics / Re: Will the bitcoin be outdated by another currency? on: May 19, 2018, 10:36:36 PM
it may happen, but it takes a very long time to be able to shift the position of bitcoin. bitcoin is still dominating the market. with the highest value and trading volume. while many new coins are killed before the fight. while bitcoin and its derivatives, such as BCH and BTG are increasingly exist in the market. what will happen until bitcoin runs out in mine Huh Who knows.
228  Economy / Economics / Re: Investment amount on: May 18, 2018, 10:54:18 AM
£ 1000. This is much more realistic. and will produce far more numbers. do not place eggs in one basket. can allocate more than one type, multiple companies, some types. trading exchange, loans, some cloud mining companies, ICO, and more. or long-term investments. buy bitcoin now, and sell for the next few years.
229  Economy / Economics / Re: You're not wealthy yet, so you're not allowed to be wealthy on: May 17, 2018, 09:43:01 AM
you have not read the law, but you can already say that. I think you are less wise in dealing with a rule. if there really is such a rule, I think it only exists in a small part of the project. if what you mean is a ban for our citizens and rules about KYC, it is not intended to distinguish between rich and poor.
230  Economy / Economics / Re: Some advices and references for a newbie? on: May 15, 2018, 01:06:19 PM
many practices. stop reading theory excessively. better practice directly, with little capital. then learn the result. make a simple analysis. see price movement from time to time. note the candle and volume. this is much more fun. repeat again in the next transaction. compare with a theory that has been read. do not trade using feeling. this will make you poor. do not just be a follower in price movements. and most importantly "patient".
231  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY & AIRDROP][ICO]🔥🔥ALL-STOCKS🔥BOUNTY CAMPAIGN 🔥2,500 ETH REWARD🔥🔥 on: May 14, 2018, 06:27:00 PM
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232  Economy / Economics / Re: Will Crypto currencies make local currencies disappear? on: May 14, 2018, 04:38:01 PM
of course not. Bitcoin and Fiat are 2 different currency types. Bitcoin and other crypto are digital currencies. crypto users are we who know the technology and internet. while fiat is the currency of a country, and the world has so many countries. the currency of a country is a symbol of the country's economic power. and not every citizen of a country understands crypto, and in everyday life they use fiat currency, as a legal means of payment in their respective countries. bitcoin has a chance to become a means of payment. but very little chance of citcoin and crypto shifting fiat, unless the country's economy is destroyed, and legalizing crypto as a legitimate payment instrument.
233  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Persona - Your Own Digital Self on: May 14, 2018, 04:05:13 PM
I correctly understood, it is necessary to download wallets from the project site, generate a new address and place in this thread? In general, where there are clear instructions?

So this is the only way to make sure that the person who made the bounty with his address gets a new one. Otherwise, no way spammers can get into the tables.
persona is not a token affiliated with ERC20, so it is not possible to do distribution using erc20 wallet. it's just bounty managers to this day have not made an announcement about this.
234  Economy / Economics / Re: Five common mistakes made by Bitcoin users on: May 14, 2018, 06:39:20 AM
this is very much happening, I have also experienced, and until now I still keep the wallet, but can not access this wallet that I created in May 2014. number 4.Buy and sell based on feelings, you are absolutely right. even till the day ni occasionally I still make this mistake, not always loss, more profit. but still this is very risky.
235  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Europe Wants To Know Who You Are? on: May 13, 2018, 03:41:58 PM
basically this is good, and this is not just in europe, in Asia and all countries around the world, 99% i believe their way of thinking is same. this is normal. and I do not mind that. KYC, AML and Tax, as long as it is really needed for everyone's good. I will accept it.
236  Economy / Economics / Re: 7 REASONS WHY: which one are you? on: May 13, 2018, 03:33:34 PM
its me...TREND. and i am here TECHY. I am always curious about something new, and it looks complicated. and I am always happy with innovations, not just crypto or bitcoin with blockchain as the technology. but in all aspects.
237  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Persona - Your Own Digital Self on: May 13, 2018, 08:16:45 AM
wallet ready, waiting for ann from manager.
download and install wallet https://persona.im/
238  Economy / Economics / Re: Blockchain Not Just About Bitcoin on: May 12, 2018, 08:42:36 AM
Block chain is the core technology of bitcoin. Before bitcoin was invented, there was no blockchain in the world.

After the invention of bitcoin, many people refer to the blockchain implementation in bitcoin and use similar technologies to implement various applications, which are collectively referred to as blockchain technology.
of course, because bitcoin and blockchain are born from the same person. this means blockchain is the biological child of Bitcoin. Because blockchain was born from the idea of ​​Bitcoin. Blockchain is popular because of bitcoin. This is not known to everyone.
239  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Diskusi] Menata Legalitas Cryptocurrency di Indonesia on: May 12, 2018, 08:33:13 AM
Jadi legalitas terkait bitcoin dan Cryptocurrency masih belum di jelaskan apakah masih di larang atau di bolehkan tapi sistem nya sudah di bolehkan oleh OJK yaitu sistem blockchain nya karena banyak dari bank besar di Indonesia sudah mendukung sistem blockchain
Blockhain dan Bitcoin adalah 2 hal yang berbeda, meski lahir dari orang yang sama, simpelnya blockchain adalah tekhnologi, bitcoin adalah mata uang kripto/mata uang digital. Blockchain memang akhir-akhir ini semakin populer, duniapun sudah mengakui kualitas Blockchain, sebagai tekhnologi yang aman. tidak usah jauh diluar negeri, Dinas pajakpun sekarang sudah mengadopsi teknologi ini : https://ekonomi.kompas.com/read/2018/04/27/103000526/teknologi-blockchain-solusi-perpajakan-indonesia-yang-lebih-transparan

Bagus gan. Sejauh ini sudah banyak Dev / proyek berbasis blockchain yang sudah menerapkan KYC sehingga apa yang sering dikhawatirkan dari dampak mata uang digital bisa diminimalisir ya walaupun transaksi nya menjadi tidak anonim lagi  Grin
indonesia selalu bersih keras untuk tidak memperbolehkan uang digital seperti bitcoin untuk masuk ke indonesia dengan beberapa aalasan yang sebenarnya sudah ada
alternatif nya, sepert KYC atau pun AML.. seperti yang tertulis di thread agan..
AML (Anti Money Laundering) adalah seperangkat prosedur berupa undang-undang atau peraturan yang dirancang untuk menghentikan praktik menghasilkan pendapatan melalui tindakan ilegal.8 AML sering disandingkan pada KYC dalam prosedurnya, sehingga penerapannya bersamaan dengan pendaftaran KYC misalnya mempertanyakan pekerjaan dan pendapatan finansial. Adapun fungsinya selain meminimalisir adanya praktek pendanaan terorisme, jual beli barang ilegal dan praktik korupsi.

indonesia sangat menghindari hal seperti pencucian teroris dan alternatif untuk melakukan korupsi..
namun kita tahu sendiri kyc dan AML sudah diberlakukan sejak lumayan lama menurut saya.
ada yang bisa menjelaskan hal ini?
Jika pemerintah tanggap, dan punya pemikiran yang sefaham dengan kita, hal ini akan jauh lebih mudah, KYC hanya perlu di lakukan pemerintah, menggunakan teknology blockchain, kemudian membuatkan payung hukum bagi legalitas Bitcoin dan krypto dalam batasan-batasan wajar, kemudian mewajibkan warga negaranya yang terjun ke dunia krypt0 dan memiliki bitcoin untuk melaporkan. maka proses selanjutnya (seperti ICO, Crowdsale, dll) akan jauh lebih mudah.
Dengan proses seperti ini, pemerintah juga akan banyak diuntungkan dari sisi data dan pajak, jujur... saya tidak keberatan untuk membayar pajak sesuai aturan atas aset bitcoin atau kripto yang saya miliki. toh bayarnya tetap dalam Rupiah, jadi kekhawatiran pemerintah bahwa bitkoin dapat menimbulkan buble tidak beralasan, jika semua muaranya di Rupiah.
240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Still believe in ICO ? on: May 12, 2018, 05:41:48 AM
Typerium, great project with great team, great idea. This year the housing project seems to be growing, but there will only be one or two projects that will survive, and grow to big, one of which could be Typerium.
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