Let note that Paypal is reversible too. Common situation - Somebody pays you and then reverses the payment. So it's much better to use BTC with escrow. P.S. NOTE TO ALL SCAMERS: don't even bother with "only btc payments".
I'm looking for a serious person for a long term business. So if you can't accept PayPal - don't waste your own time.
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If you received those cards from a retail promotion, you at least have an email sent from the sending organization.
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OP, your offer is TOO low. At Paxful, I can sell the 100% legit cards with the cash receipts at 85%-90%
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You can easily buy all those books at the full price at Amazon or in the shop if you want. Will be very easy and smart  1 set sold.
So do you just go around ripping ebooks, then making bundles and selling them? |
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Thanks for your kind words! Also from now on I accept ETHER ! This helps when you need to pay a small $$ amount and the miners fee in btc can be too much compared to the total to be paid. Great guy, got 3 books in 15 minutes for just $3!
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Thanks for your summary, Zinodaur! Actually, with the demise of Wavecrest for non-EU users it looks that bitcoin debit cards are really a complicated matter and it's easier just to sell btc via an exchanger and replenish your normal card in a usual way. Also, the bitcoin card providers are all the time at the mercy of Visa and MasterCard who can cancel your cards at any time and do whatever they want with KYC/AML things. And the last shot into the bitcoin cards business is their very complicated fee structure ... In general, I don't feel very comfortable with any of them at the current moment. I think it might be better to have 2 cards, as stupid as it may sound.
One for lower deposits ( Wirex, Cryptopay ) and one for bigger deposits ( Bitstamp ). Wirex or such for low deposits, like 50 EUR or something where it won't matter that much if you get 50 or 49 EUR on your actual card, and Bitstamp for deposits over 1000$, as it's more convenient to pay 2% upfront at spot price and be done with it. Reason I don't recommend Bitstamp at lower deposits under 1000$ you get charged 10$ per deposit. If you want to deposit 50$, you actually get to deposit 40$, which is significantly lower than what you'd get using Wirex or Cryptopay.
Complicated stuff, man. If only Bitstamp would lower fees for smaller deposits, it'd be pretty damn perfect.
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Thanks for your feedback, Danos! The essence of my post is actually very simple: - you MUST buy anything from HIGHLY REPUTABLE and HIGH TRUST vendors only. In this case, you can buy e-codes too as a direct email from Amazon. Always do the Due Diligence, never buy on impulse or in hurry. - the safest trade is when you buy a physical Gift Card purchased by cash with the proper cash receipt available. Those cards are normally sold at around 85%-95%, not less. I received some questions about Amazon Gift E-codes and think some tips will be helpful for the community:
- E-codes are just the Amazon Gift Cards in electronic form. When you buy them from your Amazon account, normally with a credit card, Amazon sends an email with the generated e-code to the email address designated by you.
- So if you are going to buy an e-code, INSIST that you get the e-code DIRECTLY from Amazon (not just an e-code in some email from somewhere), what means the seller purchases the e-code especially for you and you will see in this email not only the actual e-code , but the order number, the gift card serial number and even the name of the sending person.
- Even if you get the e-code in this way directly from Amazon, there is some possibility that the seller was using a stolen card to buy the e-code. So inform the seller that, after having received the email with the e-code, you may contact Amazon customer service to check if the purchase was legitimate.
** F*CK THE SCAMMERS **
Actually you can't contact Amazon customer service to check if the purchase was legitimate because they cannot provide you any information about the purchase if you are not the buyer. They don't provide that kind of information to anyone else than the original buyer. ALL e-codes are carded !!!! Means they were bough with Credit/Debit card... Which means even if the card were not stolen, they can be easy be locked/removed from your balance easy as doing chargeback in paypal. |
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Paxful is not a reliable place  If you have legit cards, it's 100% safe for you. If you are scamming, then definitely not. There are LOTS OF VERY HIGH REP traders there. Don't confuse people. OP,
why do you sell them for 70% here when you can get around 85% for 100% legit cards at Paxful?
Paxful is an unreliable place to sell AGC |
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I received some questions about Amazon Gift E-codes and think some tips will be helpful for the community:
- E-codes are just the Amazon Gift Cards in electronic form. When you buy them from your Amazon account, normally with a credit card, Amazon sends an email with the generated e-code to the email address designated by you.
- So if you are going to buy an e-code, INSIST that you get the e-code DIRECTLY from Amazon (not just an e-code in some email from somewhere), what means the seller purchases the e-code especially for you and you will see in this email not only the actual e-code , but the order number, the gift card serial number and even the name of the sending person.
- Even if you get the e-code in this way directly from Amazon, there is some possibility that the seller was using a stolen card to buy the e-code. So inform the seller that, after having received the email with the e-code, you may contact Amazon customer service to check if the purchase was legitimate.
** F*CK THE SCAMMERS **
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Reposting the best tips from this thread to make scammers' life a little bit more difficult https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1717338.0Below are simple guidelines that will decrease your probability of being scammed when buying an Amazon Gift Card (and many other gift cards): - Use an Escrow (this is obvious and comes first) if in any doubt - Ask for the photo of both sides of the physical gift card where the FULL card is visible (no hidden edges etc) and the photo has a good resolution. - Ask for a photo of the cash receipt given to the card seller when the card was bought in a shop - Check that the cash receipt looks ... well ... like a normal cash receipt. - Check that the *Card Number* from the card matches to the Card Number on the cash receipt. The *Card Number* is NOT the *Card Code*. The *Card Code* is the code that you redeem at Amazon and it looks like "AQZZ-TRDETY-CY9QF". The *Card Number* looks like a normal credit card number and consists of a long string of digits. Normally, the last 4 digits or the full *Card Number* are printed on the cash receipt. When you buy an Amazon gift card, the *Card Number* is visible (it's also printed on the package) and the *Card Code* is not visible (you need to scrape off the plastic film covering it to see the actual *Card Code*). - Ask the card seller to write something in pen on the cash receipt (something like "Sold to <> at bitcointalk.org. No refund") and make a photo where BOTH the card and cash receipt are visible. This point helps to ensure that the seller has both the cash receipt and card physically in his hands. - Check on the cash receipt that the Amazon card has been bought with CASH (not with a Credit Card). It shall be clearly written on the receipt. If you see that the card was bought with a credit card, avoid it. It's a significant probability that the credit card used for that was stolen. - E-gift codes are much less safe compared to physical cards. With them, you absolutely don't know who and how generated them. Purchase e-codes from a VERY reputable vendor with a VERY good feedback ratio ONLY. - Offers with rates less than 80% should BY DEFAULT be considered as suspicious if not explicitly proven otherwise. At Paxful, traders buy 100% legit Amazon Gift Cards at 85+%, so ask yourself why your seller is asking much less from you. - Beware of vendors with "locked" threads where nobody else can comment except them. Those guys are very probably scammers because honest vendors don't fear the customers feedback, good or bad - Beware of vendors with threads where all messages are from newbies successfully buying and telling each other how great this vendor is. - As a rule DO NOT CONSIDER trading with vendors with the red trust of -3 or lower. Don't deal 100% at all if the red trust is -4 or even lower. Review the trust level carefully. - Consider using alternative methods of replenishing your Amazon balance (Gift of Prime , Gift of Kindle Unlimited) - Buy from reputable vendors (and remember your rates will be within 85-95% range in this case) ONLY - Scammers normally will try to rush you that you don't have time to review the offer carefully. Be calm. - Reread this thread and ask if in doubt ** F*CK THE SCAMMERS ** |
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OP,
why do you sell them for 70% here when you can get around 85% for 100% legit cards at Paxful?
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OP,
You should post concrete titles and links. Then you may have more positive replies.
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Well, I think now it's time again to bump up this thread and add some useful knowledge:
(1) Beware of vendors with "locked" threads where nobody else can comment except them. Those guys are very probably scammers because honest vendors don't fear the customers feedback, good or bad
(2) Beware of vendors with threads where all messages are from newbies successfully buying and telling each other how great this vendor is.
(3) As a rule (with possible exceptions, of course) DO NOT CONSIDER trading with vendors with the red trust of -3 or lower. Don't deal 100% at all if the red trust is -4 or even lower. Review the trust level carefully.
(4) ALWAYS REMEMBER:
- 100% legit Amazon Gift cards (physical ones, not e-codes, with cash receipt) can easily be sold at Paxful or LBC for 83-85%. So all offers starting from 80% and below are very very possible scams (if not 100%) because "why didn't the vendor sell them for 85% at Paxful to get much more?"
- Use alternative methods of replenishing your Amazon balance (Gift of Prime , Gift of Kindle Unlimited)
- Buy from reputable vendors (and remember your rates will be within 85-95% range in this case)
- Do your homework and know how to tell a good cash receipt from a fake one.
- Scammers normally will try to rush you that you don't have time to review the offer carefully. Be calm.
- Reread this thread and ask if in doubt
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Thanks for the anwer, but everybody in this thread being your potential customer would really appreciate your answer why you charge so much like $150+ minimum for issuing the card? @servsec thanks for pm me about this thread, somehow I haven't seen this one before.
For your question, no, we don't offer a refund if the card stops working under the circumstances beyond our control, e.g. card issuer terminates the contract with us, like what the Gibraltar-based company did to all the players recently.
But we've been trying our best to keep that thing from happening (because it'll also hurt our bottom line. It makes no sense for us to let that happen purposely).
In the worst-case scenario, we'll find an alternative card issuer for our current customer. Just to be clear, this doesn't necessarily mean that we'll give a new card for free.
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It's absolutely OK when newbies make errors, it's a normal process of becoming a smart bitcointalker, but (1) a newbie (2) offering a free escrow service and (3) having the red trust at the same time, it's either a blatant scam or huge stupidity (or both).
OP, delete your offer and do not ruin your rep to the ground.
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