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221  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Hold or Sell on: July 14, 2017, 01:31:29 AM
Some is still here, I HODL.

But I sold some to keep other stuffs/coin.
It seems that the coins are looking for new ground before to take off.
I ll collect some other by selling some other in means time.

In crysis times, it's better not to diversify into various coins. Holding one type is easier and bitcoin is the most suitable one to hold your assets in.
222  Economy / Economics / Re: Cashless society on: July 14, 2017, 01:13:54 AM
This is a good idea but how can this be possible when there are more than half of the earth uncovered with internet? Perhaps still doable unless a technology is develop capable of transferring device  to device without internet. But what happens if electricity is missing or having problems? I think we cannot be dependent on things which aren't at all time accessible. There's a reason why fiat is designed like this. But cashless transaction will be a good option in this developing world.
That is true. That is why I think that cashless society can not exist in this decade or even in this century. People need more time to develop and poor countries need to improve their economy and communicate with other parts of the world. And then, it will be a chance for a cashless society to exist

Some of you guys are thinking that bitcoin will solve the cashless society problem but here bitcoin=cash and cashless society also bitcoinless society since they don't have any Access to bitcoin. It's expensive, that's why.
223  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your plans with your Bitcoin? on: July 14, 2017, 12:58:57 AM
I have a big plan with bitcoin . Bitcoin is a value able coin in this world so i want to buy 5 bitcoin when bitcoin value is low then i want to sold it . My 2nd plan is cripto currency trading .

After 1 August bitcoin price may decline. Maybe give you a buy opportunity.

For me, I'm planning to collect bitcoin around 1800 usd, and I'll keep them until I see 6000 usd. If I can do, that would be great anyway.
224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Pillar - The Personal Data Locker - 60hr Token sale begins July 15 on: July 14, 2017, 12:51:32 AM

I have watched it but I couldn't understand if there will be cap for each contributor. Because some whales prevent us from investing if we reach max cap very fast.
225  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How do you find your next coins on: July 14, 2017, 12:38:12 AM
Please share how you do researches and find the next coins to buy. As for me, I just read this forum and coinmarketcap and a few more website depending on which coins are in my list.

It's hard, I first investigate the teams behind coins. If they have a solid team and big community, that would be a good option. Second I check whether the coin creates any innovative.
226  Economy / Economics / Re: Rothschild: Get Ready For One World Currency By 2018 on: July 14, 2017, 12:27:02 AM
As you know Rothschild family is really strong and powerful in united states' economy. They hold shares of american companies including banks. So they never want to harm banking sector with bitcoin, I guess.
227  Economy / Economics / Re: The dream of getting rich with bitcoins on: July 13, 2017, 11:21:28 PM
now. it's so late to get rich through BTC, but with others cryptocurrencies, we still have chance to get rich if we buy in low price and wait to price to goes up in future. the only question is, which currency ? ETH, DASH , ripple, IOTA etc...

It's still okay to get rich with bitcoin, but in long term, not in short term. For altcoins, you're right. It's much easier to get rich with altcoin investments.
228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Good Altcoins to buy? on: July 13, 2017, 11:11:17 PM
Wawes - We're waiting for its new platform to launch. And we wait for new icos using waves.

Litecoin - Keeps huge speculative potential.

Etc - Similar to litecoin, has huge speculative potential.
229  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin about the free world, but not for us in the Middle East! on: July 13, 2017, 10:20:39 PM
Don't worry, the future will certainly be developed.

I disagree with you. And I assume you don't know middle east governments. They all aganist bitcoin beucase they afraid of losing tax.
230  Economy / Speculation / Re: I will not Die Untill Bitcoin will reach at Least 50K on: July 13, 2017, 09:58:29 PM
That's a great topic. If you promise bitcoin will be $50.000 by any year, we do all we can do to keep you alive dude.

Besides, I really don't expect this kind of bitcoin price. I can only expect $8.000 next years. Not more than this.
231  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Energy provider in Austria accepts BTC as payment on: July 13, 2017, 09:54:42 PM
It a snowball, since Japan legalized bitcoin we can see a lot more companies accepting and allowing bitcoin payments, soo into 6 months/2 years i believe bitcoin will be present anywhere as well being an optiong into the online market something most companies arent yet working and allow


It's a nowball what we expect for several years. Japan light the fire first, and the rest will follow. That energy provider looks a small step for bitcoin, but it can trigger much more attention.
232  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do I hold? on: July 13, 2017, 09:42:46 PM
The main reason:
it is not crash,
it is currently only a price drop. You can compare the price to last year or 2 years ago. Not like crash.
Up and down is normal.

That's what I can't really explain to my friends. They all consider the current situation as a hard crush. But this is just a down process. I don't see a crash.
233  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: July 13, 2017, 09:35:31 PM
According to my opinion, I believe so, but right now things to do that is storing your coins safe. Don't store BTC on any exchange and yet keep saving coin bank.
Risks occurring is very high when you choose don't properly secure solutions

why isn't it safe?

Because there will some split that is about to happen on August 1. And if you will let your bitcoins stored on exchange there will be chances that it will lost forever. Why? Because you are not holding the private keys of your bitcoin and once it happened that is going to be one of the worst day ever, your bitcoins will be gone forever.

That would be a true nightmare. Can you even imagine that you lost all of your bitcoins forever?

This is absolutely terrible. For this, we're responsible to get ready for the possible split.
234  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is your trading strategy? on: July 13, 2017, 09:27:17 PM
I do used to buy coins when the price is fell back ward and there is a serious dumb. The coins must have fell back world to said 30% and sell when it is in positive of 10%. I have never make a serious loses but make a reasonable profit. I have decided to follow this ageing principle of buying low and sell high.

I used to apply the same strategy but then I made a huge loss by the way. I bought sonm tokens continuously while it's dumping from 3.5k satoshi to 2k satoshi. Can you imagine that?

It's not right every time.
235  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Confirmed potential hard fork from bitcoin.org on: July 13, 2017, 09:23:31 PM
Bitcoin.org just gave an alert on their website of a confirmed potential fork on Aug 01 and some warnings to users of bitcoin. It is unpredictable yet though how the market is gonna be like but it seems it ain't gonna be pretty. I was having hopes it may not get to this at first, unfortunately they are dashed. God help us as we help ourselves too. Sad
https://bitcoin.org/en/alert/2017-07-12-potential-split

This is not a certain confirmation coming from them. They just warn us to be ready in case of a hard fork. That's all. We all gonna prepare ourselves for a possible hard fork. For sure.
236  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to earn Bitcoin without investment on: July 13, 2017, 09:18:43 PM
Hey Bitcoiners? I'm desperate to start earning BTC
I'll do any kind of online activity as long as there's a Bitcoin payment. Where do I start?
The easiest way to being is doing faucets, but the problem with faucets at the time is that they do not pay a lot of money so you are probably going to waste a lot of time trying to collect enough bitcoin and then the fees are going to eat most of your earnings.

Doing faucets are only time consuming and wasting activities. You basically don't earn anything via faucets. You need to try trade altcoins to earn bitcoin.
237  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What does 'Pump and Dump' means in crypto trading ? on: July 13, 2017, 12:44:36 PM
hi all.,

i am not a day trader , so i dont know much about these terms.,

there was trollbox on polo where people used to say pump and dump specific coins. but trollbox is gone now.,

from basic understanding dump means DROP,
does the PUMP means buy ?



Pump means that whales make you rich.

Dump means that whales steal your capital.

Remember both are extremely dangerous for you.
238  Economy / Economics / Re: How long could bitcoin last? on: July 13, 2017, 12:23:11 PM
Stop trying to bury bitcoin. Too early you do it. Bitcoin is now going through a modernization. You have to believe that after this bitcoin will become more convenient means not only of accumulation but also for trade. Once that happens bitcoin will rise quickly in price, and all who sold their coins will be very sorry.

They can keep blaming bitcoin, no problem with this. Bitcoin always gave a valid answer to these movements. And it will keep giving as well.
239  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sending bitcoin without the miner fees ! on: July 13, 2017, 12:15:02 PM
So i was thinking if i send a bitcoin transaction without the miner fee or a very low fee what will happen ? would i get the coins back eventually ? or they will just stuck there forever ! and if that happened how to do that double spend ?
If you had done it two weeks before,then you transaction might have stuck due to large number of transactions in queue and would have taken even ten days or more to get confirmed.But now,since every one know that segwit is to be activated,transaction fee has become very low and so you would not be facing any problems if you send bitcoins with very low transaction fee and so your transaction would get confirmed very soon.

That's right, so guys please don't even try to send bitcoin with very low fees. The transaction never happens and the amount turn back to your wallet if you're lucky.
240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is Ether still struggling? on: July 12, 2017, 12:28:53 AM
Not only eth is struggling but almost all of the coins are dropping, but seems like eth is a bit in trouble,eth supposed to be able to backup Bitcoin and my prediction eth price could go very high, but same like other coin the movement is stagnant and the moving is unstable, I think the news affected on eth growth

Correct, I'm generally against ethereum and find it extremely hyped. But, frankly, there is no reason to blame ethereum right now. The whole market is collapsing like doing a free-fall!
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