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2201  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ✨[ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18]✨ on: December 21, 2017, 09:44:13 PM
What will Fluz Fluz do when the the funds of the token sale are stolen like with a hack or theft ? Will they return the money to the investors ? Or will they do it in a other way ? I know that nothing can be 100% safe but still.

You know yesterday, someone asked this question and I laughed about it because I thought too a very large extent, it's impossible  but on  waking up this morning, i heard the news about Ed and then realized nothing is totally impossible any more and the question made more sense to me after which. What exactly will the dev do if this should happen??

I think the team at Fluz Fluz are very trust worthy and I would like to think that if their was a hack during the main sale they would have reserves to pay back investors. But then no investment in crypto is guaranteed and people seem to forget that.

I don't think it will get refunded if they get hacked because maybe the hack won't be their fault and i don't expect them to refund over a 100 million dollars investment

If by chance it happens, you don't expect them to boldly claim they are responsible for it thus the customer is actually at the receiving end in all. Because I don't see the feasibility of return invested capital to investors.
2202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO LIVE]PECULIUM -First Saving System in Crypto Driven by AI - AIRDROP! on: December 21, 2017, 09:36:39 PM

Etherdelta is nice, but it get more exposure to the token and increase it's liquidity some larger exchanges are needed. Atleast in my opinion...

After what happened today, I really do not like Etherdelta and hope Peculium will not be listed there. Unless Etherdelta does some serious changes, which I think they have plans for

You are right, i dont think i can trust etherdelta again infact when they get back it will take some time before i will log in and withdraw my funds. The hack really dented their reputation

Wasn't any fault of theirs I feel. It's was an unfortunate unforseen occurrence. They will surely come back better and more secured. I will still trade with them though. This calls for caution to the general public.
2203  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ✨[ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18]✨ on: December 21, 2017, 01:40:20 PM
What will Fluz Fluz do when the the funds of the token sale are stolen like with a hack or theft ? Will they return the money to the investors ? Or will they do it in a other way ? I know that nothing can be 100% safe but still.

You know yesterday, someone asked this question and I laughed about it because I thought too a very large extent, it's impossible  but on  waking up this morning, i heard the news about Ed and then realized nothing is totally impossible any more and the question made more sense to me after which. What exactly will the dev do if this should happen??
2204  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO LIVE]PECULIUM -First Saving System in Crypto Driven by AI - AIRDROP! on: December 21, 2017, 01:18:56 PM
Hey guys, I can't seem to find the AI predictions for today / rest of the week.

Can anyone see them?? not sure if I'm being an idiot

it was the last day yesterday for the prediction-contest. was a lot of fun, hope they will do something like this again soon.
what were your results?

What a shame, I hadn't actually participated. I was going to start from today Smiley

Maybe they will go something similar for the coming weeks, the predictions were really quite accurate.

Great first week trial of AI!


OH. Sorry about that. You are a day too late. The AI actually did well as it appears and I think they may have gotten the need trust from the public within these few days
2205  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ✨[ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18]✨ on: December 21, 2017, 11:48:55 AM
I don't really get it. What is the idea behind the 'network'?
The only thing that makes sense to me is the idea of bundling up purchases to get a reduced price. If the company can get discounts and earn a few percents from each deal, why does it split it with the network and not keep it for itself? Do the people on the network have to do some sort of marketing to get people make purchases through the app? If not then why do they get a share of the profits if they simply have to do nothing? If they do earn money through referrals, why do they have to pay money to get those 'front seats'? That sounds just like another MLM to me.

I don't say this is a scam or something, the whole concept simply doesn't make sense to me. I'd appreciate if somebody could shed some light on this for me.
The people in the network are the ones that do the actual purchases and get some cashback after doing it. So all in all you get your items at a little discount. If you don't do a minimum of two purchases you are kicked out of the network. The front seats, get a cut of all the cashback of the network and are relived of the minimum purchase rule. So you buy it once and get money as long as the company is working.

Seriously "if you don't do a minimum of two purchases you get kicked out of the network"Huh Wow. I definitely missed that part of the whole available information. For how long can someone stay without 2 purchases before being kicked out??

As a token holder from other countries where fluzfluz dont have business, you really cannot make purchases. Then it is not easy to keep your premier status. may be I am wrong. Atleast the statement mentioned above clearly indicates that.

Even there are countries where some of these online retail shops don't accept customers from. How then can those ones cope or meet up with the demand?
2206  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][CROWDSALE] VOXXO / CONCERT INVESTMENTS / MUSIC PLAYER / LICENSING on: December 21, 2017, 11:41:03 AM
For free users see Ads after 2 songs. Free Users can go forward and backward freely. There is no streaming limit. Its really amazing. It would be coming on apple & Android app soon.

I read this before and I was wondering about the major difference between paid users and free users. I mean if it's just ads, I personally don't is good enough. There are many apps out there with ads and also apps with which you can block ads in apps especially apk. This is an area the team needs to look into

I think it's a good concept, you don't HAVE to pay to use the streaming song service if they watch 2 ads... VOXXO get paid for the 2 ads and the user gets to stream... both are winners - what do you think the problem is?
Agree with you. I don't think so it's any problem. Because after 2 songs any single add doesn't matter or big deal. As per my thought people will like this.


That my point exactly. Am trying to say there's no major difference between paid users and free users.  if the ads is only what's differentiating them, then being paid users might be difficult since like what you guys just said seeing  2 ads is what we can live with.
2207  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO LIVE]PECULIUM -First Saving System in Crypto Driven by AI - AIRDROP! on: December 21, 2017, 11:13:56 AM
just a food for thought, everyone is excited about Artificial Intelligence and its adaptation in the blockchain but no one is talking about the elon musk effect and all the what if's of AI(negative sides)

There is most times disadvantages that come with most things in life. AI is not excluded in anyway, using of artificial intelligence depends on personal decisions. Compare the positive with the negative and weigh your options. Go for the one that suits you most
2208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO LIVE]PECULIUM -First Saving System in Crypto Driven by AI - AIRDROP! on: December 21, 2017, 06:17:44 AM

Just read something in the whitepaper, a lot of information, especially technical information where I would rather wait for a translation.
But what I noticed is this:

At the end of every SOLIDUS period and every
financial year is a percentage of the company's profit
transferred to ETH wallet. The ETH is then
redistributed to all token holders according to the
percentage of PCL Tokens owned.

Another incentive to invest, I like this

This is a very nice initiative. Eventhough Peculium is not the first one to do that. If I were Peculium, I would have initiated litecoin or bitcoincash or dash as rewarding currency than ETH. It has become too much for ETH now. ETH cannot handle the load and is visible clearly. When possible, projects should go out of ETH and look for more stable options.

I really like that part of the white paper, it’s good for investors to know what that there is a potential dividend pay out/profit sharing initiative which is paid in ETH. It will make more people want to invest in the project and it’s a really exciting concept.
As an investor I like this BUT this won't pass the Howey test so it will make this token to be out of the major exchanges forever. I'm fine with that, what I'm not fine with is with companies changing everything after ICO to try to comply with the rules to be listed in exchanges (TrueFlip I'm looking at you).

TLDR: Dividends means this token will be stuck in etherdelta forever. I'm fine with that.

Nice points, maybe we can get an answer from the mods. For me it doesnt matter wether IT is Just available in etherdelta. I made some nice Profits there. But for newcomers this could be a reason not to Take part in Ico. Better idea, I will ask that in telegram.


Etherdelta is actually a good trading platform once you know how to use it. I once hated them until I understood it. But the only issue I have with them in their candle sticks and inability to look far back in time beyond what the site is giving you. As  well as inability to use indicators.
2209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ✨[ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18]✨ on: December 21, 2017, 06:06:48 AM
I don't really get it. What is the idea behind the 'network'?
The only thing that makes sense to me is the idea of bundling up purchases to get a reduced price. If the company can get discounts and earn a few percents from each deal, why does it split it with the network and not keep it for itself? Do the people on the network have to do some sort of marketing to get people make purchases through the app? If not then why do they get a share of the profits if they simply have to do nothing? If they do earn money through referrals, why do they have to pay money to get those 'front seats'? That sounds just like another MLM to me.

I don't say this is a scam or something, the whole concept simply doesn't make sense to me. I'd appreciate if somebody could shed some light on this for me.
The people in the network are the ones that do the actual purchases and get some cashback after doing it. So all in all you get your items at a little discount. If you don't do a minimum of two purchases you are kicked out of the network. The front seats, get a cut of all the cashback of the network and are relived of the minimum purchase rule. So you buy it once and get money as long as the company is working.

Seriously "if you don't do a minimum of two purchases you get kicked out of the network"Huh Wow. I definitely missed that part of the whole available information. For how long can someone stay without 2 purchases before being kicked out??
2210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][CROWDSALE] VOXXO / CONCERT INVESTMENTS / MUSIC PLAYER / LICENSING on: December 21, 2017, 05:58:56 AM
Yesterday I was thinking again on pulling the lever on this inversion and I realized we still don't know the catalogue of artists that will be available on the platform. Have I overlooked something? Is there a preliminary artist list available?

Im not sure, but I think thats totally open, since it depends on how much they collect while Ico is ongoing. Lets hope for the best (;


As much as I have read about the project, there is nothing said about artist or genre of music. Most informations Available for now are about the ICO and sales
2211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ✨[ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18]✨ on: December 20, 2017, 05:04:28 PM
Proud to be in the 1st place! Thank you for the community power
If you haven’t voted yet you can visit https://cryptorated.com/ico-request-pipeline/



Wow. First place? Awesome. The last time I check fluz was at 3rd place with half number of votes compared to the first placed coin. Now first place. That's really  good. Shows your level of publicity. Congratulations
2212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO LIVE]PECULIUM -First Saving System in Crypto Driven by AI - AIRDROP! on: December 20, 2017, 12:48:41 PM
did airdrop still available ?, i want to join with this project .. thanks before

You welcome in. Check the first page for information about airdrop and how to get free coin. You can also participate in their prediction contest. Check their Ai thread on page one also
2213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][CROWDSALE] VOXXO / CONCERT INVESTMENTS / MUSIC PLAYER / LICENSING on: December 20, 2017, 12:24:01 PM
For free users see Ads after 2 songs. Free Users can go forward and backward freely. There is no streaming limit. Its really amazing. It would be coming on apple & Android app soon.

I read this before and I was wondering about the major difference between paid users and free users. I mean if it's just ads, I personally don't is good enough. There are many apps out there with ads and also apps with which you can block ads in apps especially apk. This is an area the team needs to look into
2214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ✨[ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18]✨ on: December 20, 2017, 12:16:58 PM
What will Fluz Fluz do when the the funds of the token sale are stolen like with a hack or theft ? Will they return the money to the investors ? Or will they do it in a other way ? I know that nothing can be 100% safe but still.

Hahaha... Why will you think such?? That's ridiculous. Personally I have never heard of such and I don't think or see it starting with fluz. Let's hope so anyway
2215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO LIVE]PECULIUM -First Saving System in Crypto Driven by AI - AIRDROP! on: December 20, 2017, 07:49:48 AM
Honestly if AEIVE can get to the point that it can within some reason of certainty predict even at 60-70% if in 24 hours we'll be higher or lower it will be a huge use for something like future

For me it's always a question of cove of the initial starting point.  If AIEVE is first introduced for stock markets it would have been mega hit already. Crypto is a budding field. Still long way to go with lots of hurdles and especially huge volatality. May be tran have answer for their choice.

With the huge volatility in the crypto market, I have a feeling the team will have to be at alert and realizing new updates to their AI within short periods of time for a very long time to all hurdles are over. Still Long time to wait I know.
2216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ✨[ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18]✨ on: December 20, 2017, 07:45:16 AM
Can someone please help me understand this token

It's basically a cashback program but based on crypto, you know how credit cards have cash back? Think of it like that but instead of cash its token based. Is probably the simplest explanation. Its best to read more on the site.

oh...that sounds like some strategy to attract costumers into their market....another question...how does fluzfluz gain from giving cash back can take alot from them and may limit their ability to maintain the system when it becomes to large


They give according to the agreement they have with the company. Once thing you must always remember is Flux has  been in existence before now outside the Crypto world, thus if all the cash back stuffs doesn't favor them, they would have by now scraped it out of their system
2217  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][CROWDSALE] VOXXO / CONCERT INVESTMENTS / MUSIC PLAYER / LICENSING on: December 20, 2017, 07:42:37 AM
Most of the celebs in Hollywood assist know about cryptocurrency. I have seen some of them promoting some ICOs. Voxxo should discuss possibilities with favours singer or any musician and promote voxxo. That would already make it big hit.


Nice one mate. That's a very good suggestion. Just a promo from one well known music artist will sky rocket the project faster than we know. I hope the voxxo team sees this your suggestion and take it into consideration
2218  Economy / Speculation / Re: 🤖 Future of Trading - AI vs Humans the Prediction Challenge WIN 0.05 BTC 🤖 on: December 20, 2017, 07:25:35 AM
December 20th, my prediction
Btc price $16700
2219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ✨[ANN] [ICO] FLUZ FLUZ - EARN PASSIVE INCOME EVERYTIME OTHERS SHOP [JAN. 18]✨ on: December 19, 2017, 07:28:30 PM
Missed FluzFluz pitch on d10e conference in Bucharest? Watch full video here > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG3OmhM8fJA
thanks! I was looking for this one in the d10e website but it's difficult to get info over there. And their twitter is so full of retweets from the different teams that it's not a useful resource, at least for me.

Twitter can really be annoying when it comes to quickly search for information. The pinning feature of Telegram and slack makes me prefer both to many other popular social media
2220  Economy / Speculation / Re: 🤖 Future of Trading - AI vs Humans the Prediction Challenge WIN 0.05 BTC 🤖 on: December 19, 2017, 12:15:16 PM
My prediction
December 19 2017
Btc price $19100
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