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2201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: March 05, 2017, 01:11:31 PM
Just want know how much the gamblers who use analysis when play gambling and what kinds of gambling game? And do you think it is needed or not making analysis on gambling game or it is depend on lucky. Thanks for share your opinions and experience.

Applying analysis to a dice game is crazy in my opinion. But when playing poker it certainly works to an extent. I never do sports betting so I can't say anything in that regard. Although even in poker you can go all in having street flush on hand and still lose to a street flush with higher card, so dependence on luck is huge anyway.
The only purpose to analyze in dice game is on how to limit your loses or quit while you are wining, that's openly known to everyone that no method that will work in dice in the long run, hence any analyzes to win not gonna last forever because it is only the house who will gonna last longer making money.

On the other hand, games that requires analysis such as poker and sports betting are something that we should put our interest in if we want to be successful with out aim to make money in gambling. It's not easy in the beginning but at least when you stays longer, you will learn something, and that something might lead you to improvement of your technique to deliver you a constant win.
- Exactly, in the dice game analysis help you to limit risks and analysis help you gamble a smart way, it does not help you win. Victory in the gambling game depends too much on luck, although some games may be based on skill, but luck always plays a important role in victory. The analysis is necessary in any game and in gambling if you do not analyze, you will lose money stupidly, sometimes the analysis can give you a unexpected profit. In summary, the analysis is needed in gambling
2202  Economy / Services / Re: Byteball Signature Campaign(accepting local posters) on: March 04, 2017, 03:52:18 PM
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2203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: March 04, 2017, 03:02:58 PM
Not yet, I think that is too hard to get rich from gambling
I don't think to get rich from gambling, I just like to play it for an entertainment.

If that is possible then I wanted to become rich and whatever is the way as long as it is legal and nice. But upon just thinking that I can be rich in gambling is hard to think. And if there is a chance that I can become rich in gambling the only thing is that I need to win on a streak or win a lot of jackpot for consecutive tries.

Well i think the people that actually become rich in gambling are those who expect nothing from it. Luck basically is the key factor if someone is going to be rich by gambling. It may come but to very few people only. If we want to be rich, i think we have to set gambling aside and work hard for it.
- I've never seen anyone rich from gambling. All I've seen was they come to gambling with the hope of getting rich and then they come back with empty hands, the next is they become addicted to gambling, they hurt their loved ones and they become criminals. The life of those who expect to get rich from gambling ended with the numbers 0, lonely and shame with their families. Rich from gambling is a stupid thought, I never believed it
2204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: March 04, 2017, 02:41:18 PM
Gambling is not like trading or other form of investment to get profited based upon the experience that we gained from the long time involvement. Gambling, whether long time or short time doesn't matter, but the luck is the important thing to give you the profit.


but what if you doesn't use wisely your lucky strike? Do you think you can sustain that to win always on some period of time? Well diffenately no since sometimes luck fades away and you might gonna lose some profit aswell as capital if you dont manage yourself to stop on the time you get profited already. Gambling is not always about luck and skill since also it needs self control.
I agree. Luck comes every now and then but smart people are the ones who know how to handle their luck to maximize its use. If you don't use your head, luck pretty much is useless. When it comes to gambling, i think its not really wise to think long term. Well unless your a pretty established poker player then it may be a long term investment for you playing in tournaments but in general, i think gambling is a by the moment thing.
Smart people does not rely on luck and that is for sure, they are more dependent on their system as their technique as luck like you said will just come and go. They want a long term success rather than a temporary one and I believe that is all we want as a gambler.
Stop thinking about luck, that will not help you to work on your ways to improve your methods of winning.
- Right, smart people create their luck, they never rely on luck of fate. They believe with the skills and experience, they can have long-term profits in gambling, not merely rely on the element of luck. Because they know luck is not on their side forever, they need something on their side forever, and by their ability, they create luck. Luck is good but important thing is how do you use it?
2205  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: March 04, 2017, 02:19:34 PM
It gives money by just winning in the gambling. And to buy foods , accessories that can benefited on my daily basis of life. It gives fun for being lucky if i am win in the game. And sad if i am lost in the game. Therefore winning and losing is all about destiny in life that can benefited in the gambling industry.
- I did not see anyone take pleasure in gambling too long. Fun only lasted for a period of time then is bad days, Gambling took everything (money, family, work, ...), it gradually destroy the life of a person. Gambling does not help anyone, it just take faith and hope about a life of wealth. Gambling is game of fate and we humans are merely the fateful instruments, it will make us happy when it like and destroy us when it want. Stop before it's too late
2206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: March 04, 2017, 01:53:18 PM
If you want to quit gambling for good you need to make something to put into your interest. You need to replace your interest in gambling in order for you to forget it. And why not try to find a real job and make your time valuable on it. Because instead of losing a lot of money in gambling, you will even gain more in working for real.
I agreed with this. You need to find a replacement hobbies that can entertain yourself, wasting money is not good unless you are filthy rich, instead of wasting your money it's better to save it until the emergency come to yours.

If you want to stop gambling then stop and dont come back. Dont even think about it anymore, if you think about it even for few second then you will be going back to your favourite casino to play the next day. You dont need hobby or whatever, all you need is a determination that you will stop gambling for your own sake
- The important thing is we really want to give up gambling, if we want, we will certainly give up gambling and if we do not want, we will never give up gambling. "Find a replacement hobbies", it only help you temporarily forget about gambling, there comes a time when we will continue to return to gambling, the problem here is ourselves. We have to help ourselves get rid of gambling, nobody can help us because they are not us and they do not know the problems we face
2207  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Chain of Points - Transforming Loyalty Into Rewards - ICO LIVE!!! on: March 03, 2017, 03:59:25 PM
- I think this will be the potential projects and development, Chain of Points based on technology blockchain combined with the professional team, I think ability to succeed is very large, maybe I will invest, but now I need more information about it. I want to know " how much is the estimated value of 1000 points?" (1000 point=???btc)
2208  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: March 03, 2017, 03:24:04 PM
If I win a large sum of money from gambling on accident or something then I would just invest it in something that will appreciate in value over time.

Exactly, I would practically buy all the bitcoins I could lay my hands on and have my paper walker thrown into a banks vault while I continue with normal life.
Instead of buying Bitcoin after winning, you can use Bitcoin to gamble. If you are lucky enough, you can accidentally win a huge amount of Bitcoin during gambling such as what Wonton did with the bitdice.me. He won 300 Bitcoin after several rolls and I can not believe in my eye. I have never won such a good amount of Bitcoin while gambling. Therefore, I have never had a chance to use my winning money
- I do not think continue to gambling is a good idea after victory. If you do not have enough luck, you will lose all and you will feel regret about the decision to continue gambling. We should be satisfied with the money we win, greed can kill you
- I have used $ 10 to gamble, then I earn $ 120. I feel very happy and I think that fortune smiled on me, then I continued to gamble, the result I lost all the money I have. I feel very stupid and I thought if I did not continue to play, I'll have some money to invest but i know time cann't roll back
2209  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: March 03, 2017, 08:41:28 AM
$2000 is a new dream after we think about $1000 last year. Well, I think bitcoin fluctuations price make us support it until now. It makes us dream day by day with all the questions and speculation about the price and development.
I always beleive, 2017 will be a great year for bitcoin.
That dream will surely come true, it's still very early and we are in third month of this year and yet the progress is already awesome. As the price will continue to rise bitcoin is getting stronger in our eyes and for me, this year could be the best year of bitcoin but thanks to the last halving for making this possible to us now.

I agree with you, this year is truly a good year for bitcoin, because its price is just fluctuating between $1000 and $1200, so, we are expecting that the next price of bitcoin would be $1500 but we don't know when will this thing happen. So, it would be better if we are going to hold our bitcoins and not convert it in just one shot, because you might regret it in the end when the bitcoins price goes up higher than its last price.
- $ 1500, I think it will come soon. I see the price of Bitcoin volatility very strong and upward trend in recent days, it is breaking the landmarks and rising very fast, i think price will certainly go up soon and 1500$ is probably a reasonable price
- We should keep Bitcoin about this time and wait until the price return to stability. Do not buy or sell, you can lose a lot of profit, think wisely to maximize your own profit
2210  Other / Off-topic / Re: How are you earning BTC? on: March 03, 2017, 08:21:25 AM
So as of this moment, I'm only earning bitcoin through a signature campaign here on bitcointalk forum.

How are you earning bitcoin?


- Signature campaign is the main source of income for many people on the forums. In addition, if you have the ability to manage, you can participate in the campaign as a campaign management, this is a good job and a high income, important that you need to have experience and reputation in the forum
- You can also participate in the campaign altcoin, if you have luck, you will earn a lot of money. There is a lot of work in the forum created a good income, you should research and learn, it will help you improve income
2211  Economy / Economics / Re: Make money from money on: March 02, 2017, 05:31:01 PM
Investing can be a double-edged sword in the sense that it is both subject to risks and yield. But if you study carefully the risks associated with an investment, you would know how much risk you can take and how much money you are willing to invest. For me, I only invest my money in things that I am really familiar with. Like in stocks, I only choose companies that have a long history of stability and profit-making.
- That's understood, good profit will accompanied risks and if we choose to invest, we must accept it. We can use the skill, experience and analysis to limit risks. "Like in stocks, I only choose companies that have a long history of stability and profit-making", this is a safe choice, but i don't like it
- Because stability will prevent the development in future, I like something has potential. A potential can be developed in the future, something can make my money increase manyfold, not something only bring little profit every month
2212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I never made any profits in dice game.. whats is your opinion on: March 02, 2017, 05:04:44 PM
Anyone that wants to obtain profits form gambling should stop immediately and consider what are you doing, especially in a game like dice where there is no way to beat the house, stop and think if after that you decide you want to keep gambling to get some fun that is ok, but don't gamble to get profits since that is impossible.

Yes absolutely right when you start gambling, should intend from the beginning to just for fun. By giving suggestion like that we can make the heart more calm and do not expect too high. With little expectation that we would not feel so hurt when she lost. And make money as a bonus only after having fun.
- Right, want to profit from the dice game is impossible. Right from the start, we were on the defensive and we can not control the situation. Dice game can cheat and we can not recognize it, so funny if we think about making profits from the dice game
- Many people said they saw some people can make a profit from the dice game, these things are true but sooner or later, they will also lose all and they can even bankrupt and in debt. The result of gambling is never good
2213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: March 02, 2017, 04:34:35 PM
- I do not know for fun or for profit, I gamble because I like and I want something to do while bored. I'm not interested about profit because i know the win in gambling is unlikely to happen, play gamble makes me comfortable and reduces stress
- You will feel fun when you play a game and if you have a little profit, fun will double. However we should not think too much about it, let's play in a relaxed manner, if we think too much about it, we will be sad and disappointed when we lose
2214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: March 02, 2017, 03:58:15 PM
There was a time I won the game that I bet for and during that moment, I have successive winnings but suddenly it come to a point of I am starting to lose the profit won. It made me realize everything that its too much and I don't wanted to continue what I am doing because its a very habitual gambling and it was a waste of profit, and exactly that's how I was able to know when I should stop and self control will always dominate my undesirable decisions made.
wow good for you because you did realize before you lose your bankroll, i guess its the greediness that keeps players bets even they should stop together with their earnings just even in a small profits we should go and quit because aiming for much bigger money will just ending us up losing our money.

Yeah i think the problem is sometimes when we are winning, we tend to see if we can maximize the run that we have to its limit. That's why we keep on betting without realizing that that we we have a very big chance of losing control over ourselves and in the process waste away the amount that we won. It's that something inside that tells us that we can win all day if we continue betting. We can say it's greed, or excitement or we're just having fun but that feeling normally happens if we are on a winning run.

- Actually when we win in a period of time, we become more greedy and we do not realize we lost control. We have faith we will win very high and we believe that fortune smiled on us, in that moment we will not be able to stop gambling, we will gamble until we lose out of money
- Because our nature is very greedy, we will not know how much money is enough, i never realized it, until the end i realized all too late. Now I feel scared gambling
2215  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: March 02, 2017, 03:19:41 PM
yes it's not easy to give up gambling I've seen many people ruined their life in gambling but still do gambling. You should concentrate on other things which you likes to do and keeping yourself busy is the only option.

Certainly it's not an easy thing if you are a very addicted gambler. And overcoming it alone will be one of the hardest challenge of your life but you can do it with a big help from peers, getting consulted by experts and having other interest besides with gambling. And I agree, the keeping your busy from other things will help you to give it up.
- I agree with you, when we are addicted, we need the help of people around, we can not fight addiction alone, it really is very difficult, we need someone supports our spirit. The most important is that we need to realize our illness
- Many people never accepted themselves addicted, they always try to justify gambling behavior. Keeping busy is good but it is only a temporary treatment, want radical treatment, we must realize problem we face
2216  Economy / Economics / Re: Passive Income on: March 01, 2017, 05:26:23 PM


One thing that I can recommend to have passive income is that you upload some photos to youtube while you have some adsense channel set up on it. With that you can have income from google without doing much effort for every ads clicked by users on your youtube videos can get you to earn $.This is a good opportunity for everyone but having an adsense account though isn't easy these days.  Agasense account is very difficult to acquire because of the requirements they ask for publishers.  But it should be worth for you to have a passive income forever.
- This is a great idea, however difficult to succeed because too many people have known it. Just a few years ago, work with youtube and adsense bring us a huge passive income but because many people know about it, so the rules become harder and then it is no longer a potential market. But if we have creative ideas, it will become a very good source of income for us. This is not a simple work, do not try if you do not have the patience and passion
2217  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: March 01, 2017, 05:10:00 PM
Ye i control myself in playing gambling that is called play safe of the game. You know in playing safe you must be analystic and strategic in gaming double or triple your bet if you think you can win and single your bet if you think you are in losing side.

You know if you control yourself in gambling on the time, So its mean gambling can't destroy you, and i believe it is a good habit, because it is difficult to stop ourself when you are greedy.
Everyone has greediness inside but if we cannot control that we should refrain from gambling. The more you get greedy the more you lose, that is the fact that you have to accept and do not wait for the time that you cannot get out in gambling anymore because you are too dependent to it.
Controlling ourselves is very important, not only in gambling but also in risky ventures that will try in our lives so everyone must learn to have discipline to do that.

Control and discipline in gambling is effective, but it is not enough, you will always end up depositing again and again to your bankroll because you will lose. I never see anyone in gambling that only wins, usually they lose a lot and win only once or twice, then in the next days it will be the same.

Anyway, yes, I control my self, whenever I lose, I quit and the same as when I win, when I reach my limit, I quit.  Smiley
- But sometimes we will overcome the discipline and control, it makes our greed growing up, there comes a time when greed too large, it will boom, we lose control and we gamble with our greed. The control only temporary help us, want good control, we must remove greed, but I do not see too many people do it, because greed is nature of human, remove it is impossible. Gambling will never be safe if we still have greed
2218  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ANY STRATEGY TO WIN IN GAMBLING? on: March 01, 2017, 04:54:08 PM
- I do not use any strategy, while gambling, I always rely on feeling and luck. Important is that we must know to control themselves, have to know how much profit is enough for a day. A lot of strategy effective but because greed and the loss of control, we make it become useless. We are never satisfied with the money we earn, we want more and more each day, so not have any strategy accordance with our greed, greed is the root of failure
2219  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: March 01, 2017, 04:36:39 PM
I can afford to lose till i want to play maybe 0.2 bitcoin in a week or in a row i really enjoyed playing gambling because the excitement i get from it the experience the fun i get from entertaining people i met i don't problem loosing bitcoin because i had some business to do and to earn bitcoin with.

Wow, I can't afford to lose such big amount... You must be a European or residing on places near that because it seems that money is not that hard to earn for you...  Smiley

Anyway, I can't do that, and as far as I remember, the last amount that I remember being deposited in my bankroll was .01 only and nothing more than that... Usually I play with giveaways and from faucets and of course from tips...  Smiley
That proves that the definition of so much is based on our capital, like marcuslong, he can afford to lose that amount but for us it's already too much. Our status in life varies but we should be all sitting in the safe side, one can enjoy gambling regardless of the amount he puts as long as thrill and excitement is always there.
yeaa it is always be most people problem when they decide to gamble more than the amount that they can afford to lose.
people never learn from the past experience , as the power of greedy is too strong.
you should not exceed the limit , for me personally i only do 10% max income to gamble twice a week in the weekend.
- 0,2btc /week, it is a sum of money with me, I never gamble with larger amounts, sometimes I gamble every weekend and I used to play sports gambling. Because sports gambling is very exciting and I can use my analysis, prediction to win. I only gamble like a game, it helps me relax, entertain after a stress week. I do not want to spend much money on gambling, I often save money because I know the money will be useful. "Afford to lose" but does not mean to use the money to gamble
2220  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: March 01, 2017, 04:04:38 PM
I came back because I believe bitcoin will change my life
There's no doubt that bitcoin will change our lives when it comes to the matter of financial things. And with gambling it surely will always make us back where we know that we had chances of winning. For those gamblers that are taking this seriously will keep on coming back and will say that they have more chance of winning because they came back to recover their losses.
- To recover losses from gambling is impossible. We never accept the loss, we always believe that when we return, we will take back everything. But the fact that we coming back will make us lose more, even makes us debt and bankruptcy. Our chances of winning are very low, or rather we have no chance of winning. We go back to gambling with 2 reasons that we addicted and we a financial problem

It's true, most of us just can't accept the fact that when we lose, it's really a hard thing to accept. We don't want to have that feeling of being defeated together with the money / bitcoins we got. And as a courage to ourselves, we keep on telling ourselves that we can get it back again if we'll play again. And that goes on we keep on coming back.
Probably only a few number of gamblers and that is evidence by the fact that there are few who get addicted in gambling. Losing is part of the game and if you are a matured gambler that is not new to you and will easily accept that and hope the next time you gamble you will win.
I would love to see people change their mind to come back for fun and not for revenge.
- I know losing is part of the game but we are very difficult to accept it, because feeling of lose and failure is very annoying, it makes us feel depressed. We want to take back all, our nature is greedy, we will not accept the loss and we will be back to fight again, then we become addicted to gambling, we never play for fun again. I saw a lot of people when coming back,  they no longer play a fun, instead, they played with anger and loss mind
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