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2221  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should Bitcoin lower its carbon footprint? on: November 10, 2019, 03:58:16 PM
Or do you think that electricity consumption is not bad in itself, just the way it is made. eg. If all of bitcoin was powered by solar, it would be fine.

The problem is that energy is generated by burning carbon. The problem is not how the energy is used. If you want to stop carbon emission, or at least slow it down, stop burning carbon.
2222  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bi modal data on: November 08, 2019, 11:47:51 PM
How about the sizes of blocks?



Source: https://api.blockchain.info/charts/avg-block-size?format=csv

2223  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This Analysis Makes Bitcoin Easy on: November 08, 2019, 03:57:57 AM
Your analysis is based on creation cost, but creation cost does not affect supply, so it can't affect the price.

The production of bitcoins is predetermined by the protocol. It is not affected by the cost of creation. Since the production is predetermined, then the total supply is predetermined. Therefore, it follows that the creation cost does not affect the price.
This is misinformation. New btc, Bch, eth, ltc, and dash are made each day. Your argument is false.

Nothing I wrote is false. New coins are made each day, but the cost of their creation does not affect the price. Try showing a flaw in my argument rather than just dismissing it as "misinformation".

when its cheaper to mine they will mine and then sell.. causing price drop
when its not so cheap to mine and inconvenient at the time to start mining they will just buy, causing a price rise

If they choose to buy instead, the difficulty will fall, allowing other miners to mine and not buy
If they choose to mine, the difficulty will rise, causing other miners to stop mining and buy.
In both cases, the demand does not change, so the price does not change.

adding to this. when mining and price are soo close that there is no profit in it they wont sell (hlping creating a support line)
they also wont sell at a loss

Miners will sell at a loss. They must sell in order to cover their costs. Also, if traders never sell at a loss, wouldn't the price still be at $20,000?
2224  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lightning Network Crypto Exchanges? on: November 07, 2019, 02:21:15 AM
Bitstamp has a Lightning node.
2225  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This Analysis Makes Bitcoin Easy on: November 07, 2019, 01:58:25 AM
Your analysis is based on creation cost, but creation cost does not affect supply, so it can't affect the price.

The production of bitcoins is predetermined by the protocol. It is not affected by the cost of creation. Since the production is predetermined, then the total supply is predetermined. Therefore, it follows that the creation cost does not affect the price.
2226  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Redeem private key from physical coin on: November 05, 2019, 09:01:25 AM
Hello, Does anyone know how I can redeem the private key from a physical bitcoin? I got the coin, I verified the public key is still valid here: https://casascius.uberbills.com/

Now I'm not sure how to enter the private key to "activate" it so I can sell the 1 BTC. Sounds like this used to be possible on Mt. Gox but thats not an option anymore!

You don't "activate" the coin. You redeem it by sweeping the private key into a wallet.

Note that he private key is in the "mini" key format, which is probably not supported by most wallets. If you can't find a wallet that supports the mini key format, then this page tells you how you can decode the private key: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mini_private_key_format#Decoding

It's fairly technical, but hopefully you can figure it out.
2227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are there daily-life applications for Sexcoin? on: November 05, 2019, 08:20:23 AM
I'm skeptical. There are dozens of coins that have claimed to be used in the sex industry. I don't believe that any have had any significant level of adoption. I wouldn't invest any money before doing a thorough analysis.
2228  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Will Bitcoin ever Become Physical coin ? on: November 03, 2019, 01:31:52 AM
Here is a picture of one of the Casascius coins that people have mentioned:


They can be traded in the collectibles forum: Economy > Marketplace > Goods > Collectibles
2229  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Incentives for Inflating Cryptocurrency on: November 03, 2019, 01:15:29 AM
Skeptic: Your Bitflate coin supply inflates. It’ll devalue people’s bag of money. Nobody will want to hold it.
Me: Inflation creates more coins. More people will adopt it. That’s how it will retain value.

Me: Increased supply does not raise demand -- it lowers price.
2230  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: November 03, 2019, 01:05:14 AM
Remember the beginning of the Star Trek movie, Star Trek: Into Darkness? Remember how Kirk and Bones are running through a jungle, running from a primitive race? When the Enterprise lifted out of the ocean, the primitive race saw it. The Enterprise was barely on its way into space, but the primitives were already drawing a picture of the Enterprise in the dirt with a stick.

Did the drawing fly? Did it have any of the powers of the real Enterprise? No. It was just a drawing. ...

That's an allegory saying how god myths are misinterpretations of unexplained phenomena.

Sorry for going off-topic.
2231  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Non-spendable Bitcoins and Imported wallet address on: November 02, 2019, 11:41:32 AM
This is my first post so I will make this as short as possible. ...

Wow, for a "short" post, that was quite long. Here is my short answer: they are all trying to scam you. Don't send anybody any more money.
2232  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Would a brain wallet based on a password hashing algorithm be secure? on: October 31, 2019, 06:20:01 PM
Sorry for using the word "hash" when I should have written "password key derivation function".

I was hoping for something more than "brain wallets are bad". Any sig campaign spammer can write that.

A brain wallet created using a good password key derivation function must be better than one created using SHA-256. How secure is it? If password key derivation functions are not good enough for brain wallets, are they good enough for passwords?
2233  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Would a brain wallet based on a password hashing algorithm be secure? on: October 29, 2019, 10:32:32 PM
If you use a slow hashing algorithm and an appropriately sized salt then you should be good. A lot of sites will still use sha256 and 512 for password hashing. The salt would have to be pretty huge based on the size of asics though...

I was thinking that something like a PIN could be used as the salt. I would have no problem remembering a brain wallet phrase and an 8 digit PIN.

It might be better to just memorise a seed instead? I know quite a few of mine from memory from having to restore wallets. Just read it every couple of hours (potentially while doing something else) and your wallet will be more secure.

I don't think that memorizing a random 12+ word seed is feasible for most people.
2234  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Would a brain wallet based on a password hashing algorithm be secure? on: October 29, 2019, 10:04:01 PM
The typical brain wallet is constructed by hashing a memorable phrase using SHA-256, and using the result as the private key. It is well-established that the typical brain wallet is not secure. This thread demonstrates that very clearly:

Collection of 18.509 found and used Brainwallets

Here is a good example from that thread showing that even a seemingly good brain wallet phrase can be cracked:


The basic attack against brain wallets involves generating a huge list of potential phrases, and then checking the blockchain for the addresses derived from the hashes of those phrases. The defenses against this attack are to increase the range of potential phrases and to make it slower and more expensive to check them.

The cracked brain wallet above demonstrates to me that the benefit of increasing the potential range is limited. That is basically because a human's ability to create meaningful and memorable phrases is limited. For this reason, we have to accept that although a carefully chosen phrase is important, it is not sufficient, and it is also necessary to make it slower and more expensive to check the hashes of potential phrases.

The issue with SHA-256 is that it is very fast, and it is easy for the attacker to generate the private keys for a large number of potential brain wallets. A typical PC can generate up to a billion SHA-256 hashes every second. SHA-256 is not appropriate for hashing brain wallet phrases (or any kind of passwords).

Now, there are certain hashing algorithms specifically designed to resist attacks on hashed passwords: bcrypt, scrypt, and argon2id, for example. They have these advantages:
  • They are much slower than SHA-256. For example, Litecoin's configuration of scrypt is about 1000 times slower than SHA-256.
  • They require much more memory, which limits the parallelization.
  • They also generally include a "salt" parameter that limits the ability to use pre-generated hash tables.

My question for the experts: would switching to an appropriate hash algorithm such as the ones listed above be enough to make a brain wallet secure?
2235  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Collection of 18.509 found and used Brainwallets on: October 29, 2019, 08:34:36 PM
I assume this mapping is mainly based on the brute-force method used: I assume it didn't search for just random strings, so for example ??d?pa???A? doesn't show up becasue it was never found!
Am I right?

It's a mapping of passphrases that were already found (by other methods). Really just a visualization of what was previously discovered.

I think he is asserting that your results are filtered by the search algorithms because results that aren't found by the search algorithms won't be in the list, and changing the the algorithms will change the list. It would similar to the difference between lists based on cracked passwords and lists based on leaked passwords.

The latter mapping represents the passphrase "To the moon!!! ┗(°0°)┛ ..○" -> https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/18vqVNQi9fobKZcJWCjZNoDzBxronENfZr

That is another great example showing how a brain wallet is not secure.
2236  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WHEN THE LAST COIN HAS BEEN MINED. on: October 28, 2019, 06:53:26 PM
1. Transaction fees would instantly go up, to accommodate the lack of block rewards being a thing and transactions would likely become a lot more expensive consistently.
Eliminating the subsidy does not affect supply or demand of block space, so how can it affect the price?

2. The coin would die, or be dead before it's fully mined out - this is my personal prediction for Bitcoin, don't think it'll survive enough for every last coin to be mined out.
The evidence contradicts you. The subsidy has been halved twice now, and rather than Bitcoin approaching death as the subsidy approaches 0, Bitcoin is growing. Also, there are coins that have no subsidy and are mined just for fees, and while they may ultimately die, it won't be because they have no subsidy.

3. It would only be available for purchases on exchanges and P2P, with there being no supply, demand and the price would instantly rock up causing the coin to be instantly worth a lot more.
You are confusing "production" with "supply". Even if no more coins are mined, there will still be a supply. There will always be people who are willing to sell their bitcoins -- that's the definition of supply.

Furthermore, demand (and price) would not "instantly rock up". Scarcity does not affect demand. People won't want to buy more bitcoins just because they are no longer produced.
2237  Economy / Economics / Re: The Economic Analysis of Demand for Bitcoin on: October 28, 2019, 07:01:20 AM
1. Transactions Motive
...
According to my analysis, higher the value of X, longer the person will hold bitcoin.

It might be helpful to show your analysis. It is not clear how your conclusion is related to the transactions motive.


2. The Precautionary Motive

Many unforeseen and unpredictable contingencies involving money payments occur in our day to day life. Thus people keep a portion of their income to meet such unanticipated expenditures. ...

It seems to me that this is just an extension of #1 with a longer time frame and some uncertainty.


3. Speculative Demand for Money

To analyse the Speculative demand for money, Keynes has taken two factors into consideration:
...
When the current interest rate is more than the critical interest rate, people convert all their money into securities because:
...
On the contrary, if the current rate of interest is lower than the critical rate, people will convert all their securities into cash.
...

"All" is an exaggeration. The fact that all is not converted means that the actual effect can be quite different from your narrative.
2238  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My Bitcoin beat Bank interest rates and inflation. :-> on: October 28, 2019, 06:34:31 AM
In the last couple of days, I made more profit from selling a few coins, than what I would have been making in 3 years with the interest on my savings in the Bank. ...

Be honest with yourself. You got lucky. That's it.
2239  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Price of BTC on: October 27, 2019, 05:58:08 PM
The current market price is around $8.4k but the hash rate is 90zhs.

90zhs / $0.01 = $9k so I think it's about 7% under-valued.

Fixing the ratio at $100 per EH/s is completely arbitrary. You have no basis for that ratio.

Furthermore, the hash rate has risen much more quickly than the price because of technological advances, so the proper price varies wildly depending on when you fix it.

If you fixed the ratio a year ago when the hash rate was about 50 EH/s and the price was $7.5k, you would say that the current price should be $15k.
If you fixed the ratio two years year ago when the hash rate was about 10 EH/s and the price was about $8k, you would say that the current price should be $80k.
If you fixed the ratio 5 years year ago when the hash rate was about 0.3 EH/s and the price was about $400, you would say that the current price should be $120k.
2240  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Price of BTC on: October 25, 2019, 07:32:07 PM
I only care about how secure my money is and that is determined directly by the hash rate. So the 'real' price should follow the hash rate. Whatever else people are thinking is all smoke and mysticism, and con artistry.

You may care only about the security, but someone else might care about the convenience, and someone else might care about the privacy, etc. Different people value different things. Each person will determine the value of a bitcoin to them and will buy or sell based on that. A market takes all different those values and aggregates them into a single price.

The hash rate doesn't ultimately determine the security. The security is dependent on the cost of an attack, and (for any mining-based attack) the cost is ultimately determined by the value of the block reward.
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