About 2M sat. I usually spend the BTC in humble bundles, so I suppose I will never have too much  This is a great use for them, too! Help support non-profits, help support the Bitcoin economy, and help support yourself,  . i actually didnt know humble bundle accepted bitcoins! i might just go ahead and pick up the borderlands bundle right now, that 75% off the presequel coupon looks rather tempting |
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I understand the idea but I doubt someone who can afford to bet 10 BTC will be happy with 0.009 BTC referral commission.
The wagering does soon add up if you bet a lot on dice and its free money really, but yeah i still think its hard to attract sign ups due to most people are looking to gamble on dice. Rakeback in poker seems to be popular due to being able to break even/win long term in poker. If you play on dice a lot though you might aswell sign up for rakeback, its a no brainer. at the same time, there's nothing stopping people from referring themselves on a separate account. even though primedice takes care of this automatically, people can just a VPN or TOR to bypass this. Yep this is another reason why cashback programs with bitcoin banking are tricky to get going. The whole affiliate business could be shaped differently under bitcoin. cashback programs are decent if run by the house, especially in a gambling scene that makes sense such as poker or sportsbook betting. this kind of system, where a user will be providing rake back from referral earnings promotes abuse in my opinion; since referrals will be given from a percentage of a wager, id think some people that opt in for this program would be inclined to minimum multiplier bet a percentage of their bankroll on autobet in an attempt to get the most amount wagered, ie they would do this for profit. |
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considering a month's subscription costs $50, what size bankroll would you recommend for following your bets to cover that fee and to still turn a profit? (in BTC)
edit: given a month of average profit, unlike this one
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This what I mean when I talk about unprofessionalism. You spew a lot of nonsense and make false claims and do nothing to back it up. Then once you realize you lost the argument, you resort to a lame attempt at humour.
You're a funny man. Lame answer is if I say that I don't bet!? In a sense... Yes. You're trying to avoid the situation by pretending that it's a joke instead of actually doing what a real owner would do and try and diffuse the situation and back up your claims or at least try to dissect mine without resorting to insults. i pointed out that there were two bugs in the initial pm, and DCM decided to act surprised at this fact. when i pointed out that he was wrong on this, all he could do wa call me pathetic and not even offer a related comment on the matter (see above). if you cant back up your own site and your own claims why should other people stand up for you? you dont even stick to your own claims stubborn as you are. |
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id like to point out the source of this disagreement: Hello, this is regarding the thread in the gambling section that has become a rather big topic of discussion over the past day: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1106133.100As I have claimed in the thread, I have found a way to bet on your site that gives an edge advantage to the players. In addition, there is a way to exploit the client side to manipulate some data that should not be manipulable. These claims have been tested and confirmed by user dooglus to be true. I am asking for 1.5 BTC as a bounty for finding these brutally exploitable bugs on your site. dooglus is included in this group pm to verify these claims. If you are willing to escrow the 1.5 BTC for the bounty we can discuss this bugs at the soonest possible time so that they can be fixed. Please use "reply to all" when replying to this message so that all three users may be included in this PM conversation. i told you there were two bugs from the start. i dont know why youre acting so surprised. the fact that you dont even take the time to double check before posting this is pretty pathetic. learn to read. This is all you have to reply? Pathetic it is. I'd just like to quickly state that all my arguments are completely factual and referenced by proof.
I also have no need to 'boost posts' and am not enrolled in any sig campaign of any kind.
Sure, you are not. lol. i clearly stated in the initial message that there were two bugs, the +EV bug (rounding error) and the bug that allowed for bets exceeding the bet parameters (6666x bets). DCM didnt learn how to read, and behold comedy gold: this display of stunning intelligence is cringey, and its also mind blowing how people this incompetent managed to run a site for a year in the first place. id also like to ask people to stop bumping their thread, id rather not have people see it and go play on that site and end up getting scammed. |
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Hello, this is regarding the thread in the gambling section that has become a rather big topic of discussion over the past day: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1106133.100As I have claimed in the thread, I have found a way to bet on your site that gives an edge advantage to the players. In addition, there is a way to exploit the client side to manipulate some data that should not be manipulable. These claims have been tested and confirmed by user dooglus to be true. I am asking for 1.5 BTC as a bounty for finding these brutally exploitable bugs on your site. dooglus is included in this group pm to verify these claims. If you are willing to escrow the 1.5 BTC for the bounty we can discuss this bugs at the soonest possible time so that they can be fixed. Please use "reply to all" when replying to this message so that all three users may be included in this PM conversation. i told you there were two bugs from the start. i dont know why youre acting so surprised. the fact that you dont even take the time to double check before posting this is pretty pathetic. learn to read. |
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I would say to stop posting on their thread as we are making them the favor of bumping their thread on top on this boards which means that more people could actually be "scammed" by his cheap site. Hope their investor / players know about this thread and get out of the site immediately
With this entire issue arrising, the site is getting 4+ pages of it . Thats pretty much 15 % increase of activity for their site
good point, ill stop posting in their "official" thread, even though its so fun to see this guy as mad as he is. personally id like to see a lot of red painted onto both of their trust pages to dissuade people from playing on their site ever again. also, joter85 mentioned that bets decreased by 90% on their site as a result of the incident; I dont expect him to be telling the truth, but if that's true its a start. |
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The 'What Then' is simple. Your site is flawed. Your management and programming is bad. People should see the evidence brought before them and make a decision for themselves.
My opinion, along with many others on this site is to just avoid your site completely.
although the video doesnt count as proof beyond reasonable doubt, its definitely fishy; are you still planning to open a scam accusation thread against them for this incident? it'd be the second one against these two. |
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Out of context quote.
I told you about 1.5BTC ... offer is still on table. You just need to APOLOGIZE and you get it. Then you can share it with all your 10 friends you have on this forum.
Later skiddies.
given the kind of person you are, i doubt youd pay up even if i did apologize. theres plenty of content on the scam accusation thread against you to suggest that you wont considering the type of person you are. besides, theres nothing for me to apologize for. if anything, you should be apologizing to your investors for continuing to endanger their funds while you waste time on this forum instead of working to fix your site. |
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Even so much so that I was willing to with 100% confidence bet even money that a 25,000 to 1 shot would happen.
Yeah, and I lost 30 times a row rolling under 49. What now? Did I lie, or is it impossible? Bet me 2BTC that you'll get exactly 30 losses under 49 at 1:1 Yeah, and I lost 30 times a row rolling under 49.
What now? Did I lie, or is it impossible?
this is too good. this is so, so good. you can bet dogedigital the 1.5 btc you owe me, surely with such a "well coded 100% secure site" you can make back the money if you lose right? SURELY. |
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OP, to be honest, you are coming off as really unprofessional. You need to take a step back and do some heavy breathing before you post here.
you want to see unprofessional? check out this thread from a previous scam accusation against these two: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=797144.0archiving comedy gold in case they decide to edit the hate language out https://archive.is/NEzfihttps://archive.is/uhcT6https://archive.is/7LRwPhttps://archive.is/W2wlxThat's what he said. Show me proof. EDIT: And even if it's true. One in a million do happen. It's hard to show cold hard proof. But... if you pay attention to what I had said then you'll see that there's a huge difference between playing and then claiming that something is wrong and actively predicting and wagering before the results for an EXACT outcome to occur. Again, I wouldn't be able to 100% call this proof, but you tell me the chances of correctly predicting with 100% an exact event that should only occur 1 in 25,000 times over multiple tries. i agree its hard to call it proof, but the timing on when the bets started showing that variance is incredibly suspicious, especially since the variance magically disappeared after clearing cookies and changing accounts. |
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I was asking if there was really a vulnarability, they said i dont want to talk here about it, so i kept asking and they would mute me if i didnt stop talking about the quality of the script and so on...
ClamCoin
im not an expert, but i think thats called censorship.  if the developer cant take criticism i dont expect this site to ever make progress. |
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We arent spamming your thread dipshit. We are giving you legitimate issues and you are brushing them off like an arrogant cock.
this is the major reason why this site is a joke; what programmer doesnt value input from an audience that is trying to inform him of bugs and vulnerabilities in the site? simply ridiculous at how arrogant this guy is. we are trying to inform him of a bug in his code and writes it off as spam. Ah keep spamming I don't care. If mods don't delete your worthless comments, I'll just leave this forum.
yes please do, we would all appreciate it. we dont need this kind of narrow minded toxicity in the forum. even if theres an astronomically low chance of this happening, any competent admin/dev would be looking into this to preserve the integrity of his site. |
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I kept running into problems with video conversion and my wife wanted to take the day off for the family.
it happens, dont sweat it. I then challenged the moderator and another user skeptical of my claims to bet 2BTC that I could prove to them that over the next 5,000 (putting the sum total of rolls at over 23,000 with zero wins) rolls at 200x (>99.494), I would end up with exactly 0 wins. They were hesitant to accept this bet even though I basically begged them to accept and offered to have any trustworthy escrow hold the funds and release it to them if any win was shown on the site (pretty simple and straightforward way of confirming the winner of the bet) and that I was basically betting even money that I would win exactly ZERO times over 5,000 rolls instead of the many permutations of wins with a standard deviation near 75 wins over this period. This is liken to betting someone at 1:1 that a roulette wheel will produce 20 black numbers in a row instead of any other result. They both declined.
i dont see why they wouldnt accept your challenge if they were so confident in their site. I then created a new account where I predicted that I would win within 200-600 rolls in which case I did. I logged back into my original account with a new client/server seed and then started to win/lose at a normal rate.
did you start winning again on the original account after you made the claim that there was something suspicious going on in the thread? I think that's a rather big question that needs to be addressed. for all we know the admin could have toggled fair rolls back on or something after seeing that you noticed this suspicious variance. I did check a few of my bets (I was unable to check the earlier bets because the site does not allow access to them and I wasn't pausing the betting to check with 3 bets per second) and they did check out to be provably fair. By a few, I mean 10 out of 33,000 total.
big red alarm, not being given access to all your previous bets to verify their fairness might as well mean its not provably fair at all. |
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Apologize and you'll get your reward. Or go away.
i mean, you really cant make me. ill give you a hint though, theres an inconsistency somewhere. how old are you to act this childish? anyways, your level of maturity isnt worth the effort in dealing with anymore, grow up. |
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No reward for you. Are you kidding? Read what you wrote to me in previous post. You can win your reward on our site with your bug you found. If you still think it is vulnerable.
And second thing is, you didn't tell me for that bug but someone else is. You were to greedy to take 1btc we offered. Now go cry in a corner, or gamble your reward with your "bug".
like i said, i fully dont expect anything from a stellar person such as yourself. this is the kind of person that's running your site, whoever's betting on this site take a good look. the bug has nothing to do with betting, its a front end bug caused by your incompetence. stellar display of professionalism there. cheers. sorry but i cant apologize for you being a joke of a programmer. thats your problem. |
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I would refund all investor's lost if I were you
the investors are probably as stupid as joter to still have btc put in that site, they probably dont even know whats happening or care. there are still issues with the site. this site is a joke. Go away, you are so annoying that I won't even read your post. im still waiting on the reward you promised that i fully dont expect to get from a person such as yourself, and im letting you know your site still has bugs. any developer remotely close to competent would start looking through their code immediately. |
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I would refund all investor's lost if I were you
the investors are probably as stupid as joter to still have btc put in that site, they probably dont even know whats happening or care. there are still issues with the site. this site is a joke. |
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It seems to me you don't care about nothing. All the valuable advise you got here -- you don't care! All the rightful critics here -- you don't care! What must happen to your site that you do care?
id think its more a show of arrogance than anything, believing that all this will have no negative effect on their site. if the arrogance and stupidity wasnt made clear before, it sure shows now. |
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Well newbies should not gamble if they don't know what they're doing in the first place. And it doesnt matter if you are following someones tips, since it's your risk 100% anyways,
there's no way of knowing if the tipster has some better knowledge.
people dont seen to understand this part, i see people get mad because their all in from 1 tip turned out to be a loss. that aside, on the topic of "bad" tipsters that withhold info, id expect that theyre doing so just to sway the odds or something. |
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