Cyprus has shown us all that there is no more such thing as a safe harbor ("offshore", lol), and Silk Road that there is no anonimity. You never know in advance where and when shit is going to hit the fan...
Cyprus, you trusted the EU and got screwed over. Silk Road, DPR got busted you got screwed over by US Govt. With bitcoin, you trust no one. You are your own bank. There is zero reliance on third parties for transactions. If you buy via localbitcoins or in small amounts, you will almost certainly be completely anonymous. Yeah, and if you keep silence on forums like this one at that. Though you will still have to spend your bitcoins some day (thus relying on your counter-party), otherwise there is no purpose of buying them. And when you finally shell out, they will be right there to catch you with the goods, lol... |
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В общем я поменял на обменнике btc на ЯД, но подтверждение транзакции в клиенте нету уже часов 5 (0/6 подтверждено). Такое долгое подтверждение вообще возможно?
Еще 1 момент - после обмена у меня на btc кошельке осталось ровно 0 btc, поэтому я думаю может не подтверждается из-за этого? Кому не жалко отправте на этот адрес - 1NTQXs5dXcgNZF2vMpip85Ex1yarxHffMy минималку btc (0.000001 или сколько минимум?) для проверки, заранее спасибо.
Борзое начало, чё там |
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Don't worry anth0ny, you'll be a millionaire one day and deisek there will continue to be a wage slave. His kids are going to say: "you what? You thought bitcoin was a bubble? Is that why our family is poor?"
It may not be that fun though... Deisek, this might well be the last chance for you to buy btcs for less than $1000. You'll be kicking yourself... The problem is that I already can't buy or sell BTCs (even if I wanted to). All official reliable exchangers that were out there (I worked through one of them) suspended their operation until things clear up a little... A small stash offshore will be better than nothing, especially if things hit the fan in emerging markets. Cyprus has shown us all that there is no more such thing as a safe harbor ("offshore", lol), and Silk Road that there is no anonimity. You never know in advance where and when shit is going to hit the fan... |
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заявлений ЦБ не боимся и принимаем небольшие суммы криптовалют
а так же продаем их
Куй железо не отходя от кассы. Надо полагать банков нет и не будет? там вывод под 5% - это разве кому интересно? да и не биржа мы чтобы в банки выводить Другие обменники вполне себе в банки выводят выводили, хотя далеко не биржи. Лично у меня межбанк вообще бесплатный, какие там 5% (ну разве только у Сбера, лол)... |
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заявлений ЦБ не боимся и принимаем небольшие суммы криптовалют
а так же продаем их
Куй железо не отходя от кассы. Надо полагать банков нет и не будет? |
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Don't worry anth0ny, you'll be a millionaire one day and deisek there will continue to be a wage slave. His kids are going to say: "you what? You thought bitcoin was a bubble? Is that why our family is poor?"
It may not be that fun though... Deisek, this might well be the last chance for you to buy btcs for less than $1000. You'll be kicking yourself... The problem is that I already can't buy or sell BTCs (even if I wanted to). All official reliable exchangers that were out there (I worked through one of them) suspended their operation until things clear up a little... |
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In your country do you have to get a letter of attorney to ask someone to explain something to a group of people? If so I'm afraid I can't provide you with such a letter, but maybe you can post your explanation privately to me and that would get around this crazy law?
Are you a group of people? I haven't seen anyone else here asking me to explain what you were asking (since this had been properly expanded on before, and not only by me, lol). How can you then ask on behalf of some group without first providing some "paper" authorizing you to do so? I don't think it is a proper way to ask for an explanation ("explain us") |
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Don't worry anth0ny, you'll be a millionaire one day and deisek there will continue to be a wage slave. His kids are going to say: "you what? You thought bitcoin was a bubble? Is that why our family is poor?"
It may not be that fun though... |
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here my address with new signature
1METiMsc5sVWmigNB6TiHBZ735gaLN5uhY
Absolutely hillarious. I wouldn't even bother warning these people anymore. Do you really think they are beyond any hope? |
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If you don't want to be productive, then just shut up and don't say anything
Uh-oh, you are kind of guest here and now you tell me to shut up, lol. What the fuck is going on here? |
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Спасибо. Красава. А там еще есть Peerbet credits. Я так понимаю, что на них можно поиграть в казино. А оттуда вывод есть ?  А это мой скрин. Заметь с ростом результатов увеличивается и мнимальный выигрыш Минимальный выигрыш, как и остальные выигрыши, зависит от текущего курса биткоина к которому они подвязаны. Курс снизился - выигрыш увеличился и, соответственно, наоборот.. |
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here my address with new signature
1METiMsc5sVWmigNB6TiHBZ735gaLN5uhY
Hey, read the last few messages at least! |
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а что поменяется от того что Бтц-трейд будут покупать не битки напрямую, а цифровой товар "третьей" стороны?) я не думаю что затраты на техническое промежуточное звено могут быть огромными. учитывая потенциальные перспективы бизнеса (а он явно был не убыточным, если люди не поленились снять офис и оформить юрлицо, внести стартовый капитал ), расходы на такое мероприятие не столь существеннны. не успел воспользоваться вашими услугами, но друзья и контрагенты отзывались хорошо, хоть и ждали более высоких цен на продажу намайненного) думаю, обменники в юрисдикции РФ найдут выход, т.к. никто не сможет запретить создать в оффшоре компанию "Бендер и оушены",сделать там виртуальный товар (ваучеры, коды, чеки) и продавать их за биткоины, соответственно выкупая у Бендера внутренние коды на пополнение баланса
Это всё, конечно, интересно, но какая, хотелось бы знать, при этом всём будет комиссия? Уж явно не три процента... Надеюсь, что выкрутятся, найдут какую-нибудь юридическую лазейку (сам один раз успел воспользоваться их услугами и тоже ждал роста). Как говорится, хорошее начало полдела откачало... |
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не успел воспользоваться вашими услугами, но друзья и контрагенты отзывались хорошо, хоть и ждали более высоких цен на продажу намайненного) думаю, обменники в юрисдикции РФ найдут выход, т.к. никто не сможет запретить создать в оффшоре компанию "Бендер и оушены",сделать там виртуальный товар (ваучеры, коды, чеки) и продавать их за биткоины, соответственно выкупая у Бендера внутренние коды на пополнение баланса
Это всё, конечно, интересно, но какая, хотелось бы знать, при этом всём будет комиссия? Уж явно не три процента... |
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Подскажите пожалуйста почему между MTGox и BTC-E такая огромная курсовая разница: MTGox 940$ а BTC-E 753$?
С чем это связано?
Об этом тоже неоднократно здесь писалось (и мною, в том числе). Это связано с тем, что вывод средств (долларов) с MTGox может занять очень длительный срок (около месяца или даже больше), поэтому арбитраж (который бы уравнял цены) становится невозможным. Получается, что это такая премия за ожидание... |
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So how is this discussion going. Getting somewhere?
It seems that bitcoin has been officially outlawed in my country, so if I disappear, you know what it may mean. Getting somewhere, lol... |
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deisik вроде всегда адекватным собеседником казался, а тут такой срач развел из ничего и ни о чём. Ну у каждого свой бзик.  Не, ну некоторым определённо стоило дать просраться, лол. Хотя какая теперь разница... |
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distributed protocols like TCP/IP , OSI, etc actually was designed to survive to a possible next WW, without a single central point of failure ...
No design can survive cutting the wire. I think you would need a distributed, decentralized satellite based internet, with so many satellites it would be cost prohibitive to attack even a fraction of the network, then maybe... As I explained before, the whole satellite system can be destroyed pretty fast in a matter of hours (if not minutes). A blown satellite at an orbit makes this orbit effectively unusable. Garbage in the near Earth space has already become a problem... |
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It seems that you, anth0ny, come here not because you need explanations or want to explain something, but to nourish or nurture some psychological quirks you might possibly have. Sorry, I am not the one who can help you with this, neither do I feel any inclination to...
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Us? Whom are you speaking for, lol? It has already been explained previously in this thread (and it was not you). I just wanted to hear your understanding, that part you paraphrased from some source is hardly a worthy explanation (emphasized for you)
Why am I raising this question again? Since proper understanding of FRB (MM) excludes sweeping comparison of the former with a Ponzi scheme as you did (even devoid of money printing)
So now you're back to accusing me of plagiarism? I thought we agreed that the explanation I gave was my own. I thought I had explained the reason why I raised this question again. Just in case you missed that part I added emphasis to the quote of my original post. Your so-called "explanation" doesn't in the least explain the essence of money multiplication... Actually, I don't care if you copied it from somewhere or wrote yourself, since it still lacks insight I've already invited you to explain what's wrong with it. I've never been taught "the essence of money multiplication". In fact, I doubt my professors ever even used the term "money multiplication". Why don't you explain it to us? But you said yourself that there is little difference, if any, between a Ponzi scheme and FRB (save for money printing indeed). If you don't actually understand how money multiplication works (or how FRB makes it possible, which you so fervently and rabidly talked about recently), how can you pretend that "fractional reserve banking is indistinguishable from a ponzi scheme" (provided we removed money printing from the equation)? I do understand how money is created through fractional reserve banking. If you think I'm wrong, please explain how I'm wrong. I've never heard of "the essence of money multiplication". And judging by a quick google search, neither has anyone else. But once again, please enlighten us! On behalf of whom are you speaking? Show me the letter of attorney, lol... On a more serious note, I'm loath to explain you anything. Everything you ask for had already been answered in this thread (in fact, just before you showed up). If you did properly understand how money is created by banks, you would have never compared it with and equaled it to a Ponzi scheme (with or without money printing), period... |
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