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2241  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Winning big amount after watching streamer on: December 09, 2023, 09:43:11 PM
I wish gambling were that easy, everybody would be a millionaire.
That's true, if it's easy to win and the same goes for everybody then all of us will become rich easy. But remember that there's still balance in everything and this is gambling which the house always win. We see people winning and being lucky for this day but we don't know how long their luck will last.
Nothing is easy in gambling because often, we have to use a lot of money first to be able to win, but that doesn't guarantee we can actually win. In fact, we will only experience more losses if we use a lot of money because we will not be able to control ourselves when using money to gamble. The house is the party that will always win and get the biggest profit, so we should always try to limit the amount of money we use for gambling. Limiting the amount of money means we are also trying to reduce the number of losses because we can prevent gambling for too long and only based on the money we have prepared for gambling. We might be lucky one day, so let's just enjoy the gambling game.

We all know about the house being in control of the winnings and having the lion's share in all the gambled funds. It's important to limit our funds rather than give it all out to the house to win. Even when we stake huge amounts and win, the money still goes back into gambling, out of excitement, before we cash out our wins. Op's story is/can be true, but could be disadvantageous to other gamblers. Gamblers who tried similar methods as Op did, has complained numerous time of losing their money and not winning like the streamer. Some try to play new games, which they've not mastered or gotten used to, using high amounts to earn big like the streamer and end up disappointed. The right thing is to try whatever game we want to but regulate the wagered money. The streamers don't play with their money, and gamblers have to be careful not to mishandle money. Those limits also extend the fun for the player, and he'll enjoy his bankrolls for weeks. Within 1 week they'll get more wins and losses, which shouldn't bother them because it's like spare cash. It's undeniable, that losing a huge amount in gambling is painful, and since nobody wants such for a fellow gambler. Gambling with lesser amounts and strong money management is better, regardless of the choices we decide to follow from the streamers. Influencers are doing a good job in promoting casinos and the management or administrator, can offer more wins for new customers to retain them for the time being. Op already trusts the platform and their type of game, and would play more due to the fact he won while trying out the new games. Doesn't it sound like a marketing strategy devised by the casino, to win the hearts of gamblers to play more games? Congrats to OP. However.

Well, we must all start from what is fair and what everyone must be clear about, is that whenever we go to play, we must know that the casino will always have the advantage, if we see several threads in the forum we will realize that there are many players who put their strategies there, just as there are other players who say that strategies in the casino game do not exist, we must also know clearly that streamers by any means will always look for an increasingly larger audience, apart from this, the strategies in elo caisnos They can work in ways they cannot work, that depends on the luck of the player at that moment, there is no foolproof strategy that says, with this strategy I will defeat every casino, every game that is put in front of me , no, the strategies do work, but it depends on how the player has the vision to apply it, if we play in a very flat way, it is obvious that we will lose, because things when it comes to how to Win are very variable, not even applying the best strategy works.

We must be smart enough to say that anything like Strategies will work when they are used based on intuition, because there are times when we apply only one strategy and it will not Give us Results, but if we apply several it may be that it does , and that makes us all go down the path of doing things better, if we are playing and we lose a lot, if we have several Strategies to Apply , that is something we have to do because playing is what makes us have fun, but also h play for the sake of playing if we want to Win , which is what normally happens, because we will be Very far from doing so , we have to change the ways of doing things, and that is one of the most Trending Threads here in the photo regarding gambling Refers , because this means that we are very far from the vision of a game.
2242  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: December 09, 2023, 09:03:29 PM
It is very difficult to be successful with gambling because of the small chances of winning and the high risk of being a spur in gambling. maybe strong luck can make someone successful with gambling, but however do not force yourself to be successful with gambling because this is just a means of entertainment not a means of making money to support someone's daily life.
Moreover, there are no gamblers who are truly successful, most people force themselves to be successful at gambling, even though they will never get it even if they gamble all the time or say become an addict, we should know that gambling should only be used as entertainment as a place to find money. pleasure is not a place to seek success or wealth.

I saw an addict who spent his time gambling, they really didn't feel successful, in fact they spent their money all the time when they gambled, so it's impossible to say that a successful gambler is an addict because that's very impossible, but actually successful or not successful. At least gambling should be able to be enjoyed without having to achieve the winning target you want to achieve.
I sometimes still think with title of this thread why gambling considered a success and some people take this seriously whereas gambling just a place provided to bet with little money to enjoy the games we want to have fun but why do people think that gambling can be successful ?
So I agree with you that gambling addicts are just  bad effects excessive gambling and cannot be considered success unless the gambling company  built to be bigger and I will admit that is what called success.

Well, success is measured in many different ways, and I have given that in the thread, the things they think and everything how they express it because of their way of thinking is good, but personally I am a bit more direct, for For me, a person who considers himself successful is someone who always wins every day at the casino, that is, if he plays for 1 hour today and comes out with a positive balance, well, if he plays 3 times a day and comes out with profits, it seems to me that he is a similar success, But if it is measured in weeks or months that the general balance of the person in the game is positive balance, for me he is a successful person in the casino, for me there is no other definition of a successful person except for him to play and win, of The rest is an average player who probably has wins and losses where losses predominate, that is for me a normal player, of course it sounds a bit eo, because up to that point I include myself too, but just as in tading there are successful people doing it, too In the casino there must be very lucky people who always win.

In another order of ideas, we can meet people who can spend all day in a casino gambling and when we go to the casino they are always there, and well it is something that seems quite strange to us because it is something that is not very common, however when we We review things well, those types of people play throughout the day, sometimes they win, other times they lose, but I know that they are in a casino all day and they win, but they are there all day long, I wouldn't call them addicts, because addicted gamblers They usually lose and that is something that is not considered a success but quite the opposite, so in this type of thing we must be very emphatic and say things like they mean, if I am in a casino all day I leave without money If I can consider myself addicted because it is something that I always lose, I don't bring good results and that is a bad thing, that will eventually bring me problems and that is what we want to avoid.
2243  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever been a gambling addict? on: December 09, 2023, 08:05:50 PM
Gambling has a way of trying to change us totally from who we are to something else. There was a time in my life when I was gambling more than expected. I was gambling with every single penny that gets to my hand. I will rather use the money to gamble than buy food or clothes. There got to a point I started borrowing to gamble and I will lose the money. People around started making jocks with my new gambling habit. My family began to complain about it. It was then I know I was going beyond the lines so I had to make adjustments immediately as there were clear sighs that I was getting addicted. I was spending more time in the gambling place than at home or anywhere else.

It's true that gambling can change a person if you don't have control and limits on yourself, you can get addicted to it. It's good that your family was there and woke you up and made you realize that what you're doing is wrong. You're lucky you weren't too addicted and you got out right away.
It's not bad to gamble, it's really fun to play gambling it's entertaining, you just really need full control of yourself before you enter here.

I think that every human being always has many things they must do, some tastes, and also priorities, sometimes responsibilities, I can say that on some occasions adolescents, or perhaps an 18-year-old adult who does not have any type of responsibility can It could be because he doesn't care about many things and can spend money and money in casinos, either because his parents keep giving him money and they are studying, or maybe he spends the money they have for his job, and well, it's his money and not They have responsiveness, however this is not good, because when people play and spend their money in a casino, they partly do not love each other, because money is essential for everything, and these are the things that we must always put a good focus on. where we are going to have certain legal or entertainment privileges, it is never too late to realize the things that are good or bad, and if something like the game is harming us, we must be aware and control it, not play so much, because It is an addiction without a doubt, and every addiction causes the money that reaches our hands to go away quickly.

In this order of things, the person who leaves or puts his money there, because what he should do is have other activities, I don't know, I always recommend playing sports, going to play soccer all day, the idea is to tire out his body and your mind can rest, as long as people are tired it is difficult for them to use their brain, and even less to play, because their body asks for rest, so things when they are like this do not make them feel like it, also not to completely stop the game but Let him play but in shorter time intervals, if he is a person who has a family, he should stop immediately, because how are he going to leave his family unprotected? Those things when there is family, children, people who depend on you, the person who must have at least 4 fingers of the brain, because they have to respond well to them, I consider that immature and irresponsible.

2244  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I learnt from a crackhead about gambling on: December 09, 2023, 07:05:41 PM
The problem of addiction to gambling, drugs or alcohol has become a serious problem in many countries, so those who have not experienced it must always be careful not to fall into the trap of people who are already addicted. This is difficult to cure, especially if they have become seriously addicted because it requires more things to be able to make them aware and admit that he has an addiction. But perhaps no one knows the percentage number, and it requires more research to find out the exact number. All these addictions can have fatal consequences for health, mental health and finances, so we really have to be able to avoid them, and if we still want to gamble, we really have to be able to control ourselves well.
We survived by providing the important mails for our jobs. Seriously chasing the bag and not minding any business with anybody that doesn't involved payment slip. A person can be addictive to different sectors of things he or she gets engaged, it can be either drugs, music or gambling which I regard to become the very worst set of gamblers, these people have nothing to give other than thinking or having fantasy of the good lifestyle with well stable mainstream of cool cash and not some random chances which shouldn't be settle for any longer.
Well, we have to be clear about something, in our life we will always have many things to experience, and many things to experience, that is, we will come across people who cannot show us certain things, certain activities that cannot be twisted, or they want to twist us, The key to all this is knowing how to make decisions and knowing how to say no, sometimes we, in order not to be poorly educated, let ourselves be fooled by certain eventualities from friends, family, anything from them, and we don't know how to say no, and that can bring us problems in every aspect, for example if I say no to drugs I protect myself, maybe for the friend who offers it to me I look like a fool, but what? There is no problem, we are still people with the power of decision and that is something that cannot be taken away because we are owners of our actions, and we are also too old to assume the consequences that lead to our decisions.

Having all these concepts very clear, we can decide what is best for us, sometimes saying no can save our lives, also everything that involves money, we should not make decisions lightly, because if we lose, who will pay for it? the casino? No, the casino is not to blame for our decisions, for that reason there are many people who think that addicted people are the fault of the casinos and it is not like that, because the casinos are just businesses, companies, business models, where Basically things have to be done based on what we all seek to have, it is a business where people obviously have to win, we as players decide how much money to put into the game, when and what games, because no one forces us, if we enter A casino is because we want to, because we decide so, because we want to have fun, and if we enter with the wrong idea thinking that the casino is a secure income, the same system will show us that this is not the case.
2245  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you deal with high transaction fee on BTC on gambling? on: December 09, 2023, 06:36:25 PM
I think if you can't keep on playing gambling or you can't stop thinking about playing gambling, then maybe try the alternatives. Like others are saying, you can exchange your bitcoin for another coin that has lower transaction fees, but of course, make sure that coins are supported by the casino where you are playing. But if you still can't do that, then better stop gambling using your assets first because, as you are gambling, you are not sure if you will win or lose. If, for example, you lose, then your spending on transaction fees is a waste. So if you have other options for playing gambling, maybe use a gambling site that offers fiat money or currency. Anyway, it's not worth it to spend money or assets for high transaction fees. If you can, you could wait for a day or several days until the fees go down.
That is a very smart option, in fact when we have these options in a casino it is much more comfortable, of course the thing about bitcoin transaction fees is something that is sometimes not understood, because I believed that this was going to be temporary , at least at least for 2 weeks, but it has been extended, this has brought certain problems to do things , personally I have Always said that when it comes to doing things more focused on Saving and Saving money , many ideas can be generated, among them, these, Of course, in Every casino there should be an internal exchange, where they also charge for the transaction fee, but sometimes it is not very good, because if there is not one in all casinos it is because the cases can be enough to not leave any profits. Of course I am Speculating this, I don't know what the reasons are for not Having an Internal exchange in the casino.

Now, when we do things, for Example , we have no idea how to attack the problem of Fees , it is not that it is not played, but rather to make a large Transaction so as not to be constantly putting up money, or having the money in a Reliable Exchange , although currently there are no reliable casinos so far, but still things should look like to have a good way to make an Exchange of BTC to USDT or any Other cryptocurrency so that it is Easier to play in any casino , that is What we can see is whether great things will be generated within a casino, now, if there is not, then there is nothing left but to assume the fee that is going to be made , try to recover it when playing , because it is that or nothing, the The altcouis is good, it's just that there are times that the eproans don't like to do anything with the altcoins, because they are not Trustworthy , there are people who only use bitcoin, and they don't like to exchange for the altcoins because they say that they lose , because how is the market It is very likely that this will happen , Especially those who are more Pro-bitcoin.
2246  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Math and Gambling on: December 09, 2023, 06:00:10 PM
Yes, just try and hope to win, gamblers will do anything to make their wishes come true, even if they behave badly or wrongly they will do it and this has been proven to be done by gamblers when they are in casinos without them realizing it. they will lose control and gamble without any restrictions.
That's right, gamblers don't need to spend a lot of money to bet, it's better to just be satisfied with what they have, so that they can enjoy every game they play in a relaxed and unforced manner then they will enjoy the sensation of gambling, namely getting entertainment and thinking that win or lose is bound to happen.
Hopefully, we won't be like those who do anything just to win from gambling. We won't realize the mistakes we have made if we are in a condition like them because we won't realize it. That is why we must continue to maintain good self-control so that we do not gamble excessively. This is also to reduce the number of losses we can experience because by gambling within limits, we will know when it is time to stop gambling.

Yes, we as gamblers should be able to enjoy gambling as entertainment and not chase wins that are definitely difficult to get. We have also seen that many people try it but most of them fail and they can't even win at all and lose all their money. And if we can enjoy gambling as entertainment, we can use our free time to gamble until the time to stop comes. Who knows, by using gambling as entertainment, we can win even if it's not a big win.
Nicely said, and I believe that anyone reading the gambling discussion section of the forum would learn a whole lot about it, even more than any external sites combined, as this forum teaches people the psychological part of gambling more. In short, if you do not plan your gambling and show a whole lot of self-restraint, you can't possibly make anything tangible from it, and in addition, will lose more and have yourself to blame. Gamblers who don't have their own minds in it are the ones who lose the most, and the reason is simple, they believe this is an avenue to make their riches, but it's not. Gambling needs a tactical approach and wisdom, this could differentiate between the winners and the losers in real time. Even if gamblers would believe that they can make money in it, they should rather expect less and also work with their expertise to make the money. And as they do that, they should also work on their emotions and all aspects that deal with the right thinking when gambling. This is what I know that will always help them to make the right efforts and still check-balance their gambling activities before they lose the control.

The thing is that we must always say and give advice to people or novice players that the game in casinos is not to generate income, but to have fun, to enjoy, that is what we must be clear about, there is no other way, those who If they want to see the game as income or they can say that they can generate income because of the game, they are very wrong, because things don't work that way, it is a very bad way of looking at things, that is why we always have to do things in the casino considering the normal, the considerations are simple, first having control of our money, if we have control over what we are going to spend we are very good, because I would say that things in a casino the main thing is that, not staying Without money, always be in what we can give to improve and protect the money, why do you have to look at something, if there is no money, you can't play or do anything, play for free in a physical casino? That does not exist, in online casinos it does, but it is not the idea.

In these cases, what we must do is guard and protect our life, so as not to become addicted, that is something that should always be our goal, we cannot do other things but that, I would think that when we are in the casino it could happen. many eventualities, for example things can turn out for the better, being on a positive streak where we can be winning a lot, not to mention when it comes to slots, because in slots it is easier to win with little money, of course, with little money You earn a lot, but you can spend a lot, that is what we must control, and do not try to do things in a crazy way, because by doing it like this, it is your money that goes away, and what is the point that we cannot do things right? If we lose money, some times the person may become decapitalized because they are thinking what they are not, that is just what should be avoided.
2247  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gambling and Invest in gambling. on: December 09, 2023, 05:04:28 PM

When you win $100 in gambling and still continue to gamble then gambling will take away double your winnings from you and you will give it away willingly because gambling will make you so addicted to it that you will not be able to stop betting

I think $100 is still small to have a feeling of quitting at a betting ground although depending on how much a gambler you are staking. If what you are winning per stake is $100 then it is just a game for winning $100 and there won't necessarily be need to quit but if you are playing like 10 games before winning up to $100 then you have played as much as either 10 games or lesser , so you can quit if you want but playing only one single game and win $100 then quitting doesn't show you want to risk anything. In gambling you have to take a risk and it is that risk that can make you win higher .

Well, it's not that the game takes away your $1000 , but rather the same Adrenaline that makes the emotions play the game and not us as players. That's what we basically have to control, but it's difficult, especially the impulses they give us. Well, based on this, we have to do everything possible so that we can have the best Experience and win, but the fact of continuing to play when we have a big win is the mistake we make as players, because we should not do it , The best thing is to withdraw with the money, it is the most advisable, because those emotions mean that we cannot have clarity, because that is where greed opens up, we no longer want to make those 1000 but rather take them to $10k, in those things we do not We can do nothing, because they are already very big objectives and when it comes to money in a casino, we cannot forget the house advantage, which is something that will always influence.

Of course we have many things we can do , players sometimes when they are in a casino because they forget the value of money, they only care about Playing and winning, but nothing but that, for this reason when we are in a game of casino , what we Must do is Always focus on one Objective , that if the money that we are willing to lose is lost, not to insist anymore, because then everything can be lost at all, both what he won and what the player Could put in. .

These things that appear in this case are very common for most players, because in part, things have to happen as they are, sometimes players do not have enough certainty of what they can do, and among these things you can generate more cases like these , how many Times have we seen Which player is who has mortgaged the house for the game , but because at some point they become addicted, so the casino, the games are not for everyone.
2248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: December 09, 2023, 04:36:55 PM
Online casinos when another member is invited by their referral code, that member is given some money or coin bonus for bringing new members to the casino and it works. The more a user can refer, the higher his referral income will be. Many rely heavily on referral income only because they may share referral codes and join links of certain casinos in their Telegram groups and leave many positive comments about that casino, then many sign up to those casino sites with their referral codes. Signup at the casino gives new members some money as welcome bonus and also a member gets some bonus as referral bonus. It's not really a waste of time, if you can refer a lot then your income will be a lot more it's up to you.

That is the part that I like the most, when things depend on ourselves, leaving what we must do in the hands of others is something that is blamed for the bad performance, for not winning, something that seems very common to me in any type of society, what I like about the referral bonuses is that under those links you can have a lot of luck, there are many that can be repaid, but few are those who make their small deposit and start playing and they like it because the majority Of those who can enter a casino, they are afraid and they think that the casino will rob them, because also the same culture that they have about casinos is not very high, I think that sometimes by playing in a casino they will fall into addiction and that is not the case. .

We have to assume something, the people who are inside a casino, the players, those who take risks, we have to consider that they are people of legal age, that they are mature and that they know how to spend their money, and that above all they know how enjoy and have fun, for that reason we are going to do things well when we are in a casino, what happens when things are not done well? You can fall into addiction and that is something very bad, which I would not wish on anyone, because what we must avoid at all costs, I personally think that when we are doing things to be able to interpret the beautiful things in life , enjoyment and doing what we like the most is what we should do as long as we have life, but knowing how to enjoy without losing control and without losing relationships, friends, even family, that apart from losing all the money and getting into too much debt, that's why I think that When things like this are done, we have to be very tactful, we must know how to manage our money very well, take care of our money, and take care of the impulses that we ourselves have at any given moment, because what makes us lose a lot of money is that , the impulses.

Many people use their Telegram groups to earn extra referral commissions. If a telegram group has more than 1000 active members, if a link of a gambling site is shared and from there 500 people sign up to that site, the referral commission will be much higher. Many people use this strategy, first they find a gambling site that mentions referral commission, and they create an account there, take out the referral link from that account and share it with everyone and ask everyone to sign up there. It is easy for those who have a community group to earn a good amount of money by accepting such referral bonuses. Those who have a strong desire to earn from referral programs should first create a community group.
But the main question on here is that, how you would really be able to build up a group or community which is composed of 500-1000 members or people? Pretty sure that this isnt something you could really be able to have  considering that building a community like this wont really be that so simple. Yes, if it happens that you do own a group or having this one then it would really be an advantage but for those who doesnt have
then even getting a single person to join up into your group or community will really be a tough challenge. Bare in mind that referral bonuses and other correlated things wont really be that
something so easy because this isnt really just that talking for some simple sign up but rather they would really be that requiring for some deposit too before you could really be able to get
some bonuses and not really just that pertaining about simple sign up.

Ref bonuses arent really that a waste of time if you are really that a kind of person whose really that good on hooking up people on joining up into your links given.
There were actually on which they are really that good at this and it would really be just that depending on how good you are on inviting people.

That is a great question , in fact there are Many ways to do it , because there are Quite a Few Courses to be an influencer, where they Basically do and say what Should be done , things that Mainly have to be done in Steps, and this Means that Every time that we Enter into a type of reference bonus, it is obvious that I am not going to get into the link of Anyone who Publishes it , first Because I do not know who it is , if the link is good or Bad , Because it may Contain Viruses , and Different You need to take it somewhere where they can Classify it as being used to steal passwords through cookies or something like that, so when we are in a Place where we want to have a lot of referrals, I say this about being an influencer because there is already trust there, and it is not Easy , because you have to get a Good Audition Because they like what we can give you , to be an Influencer or what you Should do is something that always Contributes to Others , and that is where the Community is Built , Sometimes it is or Takes time , but the Things that Should be Shared must be of Great Interest to others , because it is easy for them to no longer subscribe or anything.

For the cases of people who Already have their Community , it is Easy, because They are Told to get in there, to dump, to play, that is the Least Important thing, but of Course , as long as the person has their proper community, they also do not have a Community, being so Big , the person Start with 10 then they go up, this includes having Communities on telegram, facebook, Twitter , instagram, even tik tok itself Which is so viral, it's incredible but it's the Most viral , that's just us We Must be considerate , so Sometimes you can get Paid courses , Other times they can Offer Courses on YouTube on how to be an influencer and the advice they give , that is a matter of the Desire that People have to contribute with Certain things, it is never Too late , There are Many ways to be an Influencer , but you have to Have a lot of time for that.
2249  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: December 09, 2023, 04:01:26 PM
When a person gambles with his own money, he tries to take into account the risks and somehow control them. When a person gambles with borrowed money (especially if he has the opportunity to take rather large loans), he often begins to behave recklessly and spend money without an account (this is the specific nature of most people).

The gambler who used their own money will keen to take the money out from the gambling site with some profit.But if the gambler uses the money from loan,he will get more pressure to the money out with the profit from the gambling site.So the gambler will get more emotional in the loan money,it may leads to the big loss of the money in the gambling site.This was the biggest mistake made by the gambler in the gambling site,he should do gambling only because of their own money.Incase loan money,if he had loss then the gambler situation will become more worst in the real life.
When someone gambles with their own money, they are not liable to anyone for losing it and are under no pressure to pay it back.  But when someone gambles with loans and loses them, there is a strong pressure on him to repay the money and he faces a lot of problems.  Because at the same time he needs a fixed amount of money to meet the expenses of his family and on the other hand there is a huge pressure on him to repay the loan. For this one should not gamble by borrowing.  One should gamble according to his own ability

Well, there are people's behavior that I honestly don't understand, because primarily when I play with my money I take great care of it, but of course, I take my precautions, I only play what I have destined to lose, from there no more, I do lose what I have destined Well, I insist more and accept my loss, I think that is a rule that I have and it has worked very well for me in my experience in caisnos and with that strategy it does not make me fall into addictions or anything like that, This is only with my money, but those who take risks and borrow money just to play, and I have said this many times, it is not good to do so because basically when they do something like this it causes people to go into much more debt, and if they are people who They don't have a very good monthly income, how will they be able to pay? It is impossible, so not to get involved in things that cannot be paid, because I do not say anything about lending money to be able to do other things, or that there is a health emergency or something, which is what I see as normal, in this case things can be good enough.

Now, when we do something out of the ordinary, we could say that we can borrow money to buy bitcoin, which I don't see as so risky, but in the case of lending money to play in a casino, what will the person do if they lend it, and lose? how would it look? make another loans for gpgara? That is something that I do not see well, I could say that they are people who do not have a very good financial life and who live day to day looking for ways to do things better, but with debt it is very difficult to think, it is strongth because in a casino if it is the activity that you do the most it will not generate good money to at least save money, a life like that is very difficult, hard, and I do not recommend it, that is why addicted people cannot get out of it. that cycle of vices, because they continue all the time in the worst, that is detrimental to health.
2250  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greed or risk on: December 09, 2023, 02:16:43 AM
But it is interesting how they describe on this website that players in poker went broke but some of them bounced back and are now back in business these days earning a lot of money. But the reason they are hiding is not that the players play so well and are professionals outplaying everyone, the reason is that most of these guys now have advertising contracts or are otherwise associated with platforms that guarantee them a certain income and probably participation fees in big tournaments. As you can see some of them would have gone broke if it wasn't for the Internet and social media to save their asses. Smiley
That means they can use the internet well so that it can help them recover from their defeat and turn their situation around. But they still have to be careful because greed will come back and if they don't learn self-control well, they might experience defeat like before. But with their experience playing poker, they will definitely be able to overcome all the problems that will arise and they can earn a certain income. Maybe they also learned something that we don't know so that they can return to the gambling industry and even have connections with other people who have supported them while they were hiding and continue to encourage them that they can return to gambling once they feel deep enough to learn everything.



But the message I was trying to convey here is that the professionals as they call themselves are not immune from going broke. More importantly, they could not stay rich with their "professional" activity and instead had to resort to a different business model, namely some affiliate, marketing, influencer type of business and not the activity itself. The bad part about it is that their job is to promote that activity AS IF it would make them rich in order to get as many people as possible onto the platforms as paying customers. I am sure you understand my point, don't you? And this is why it is so important to make up one's mind before deciding to become a "pro" and earn money with gambling.

Well, I have something very clear, and it is very similar to what I think about in trading, I say that a person considers it a professional both to a Jaguar and to a trader when he plays with close amounts or who manages amounts of $1M, the things They can be like that, and I consider them professionals, so when they are people like that who manage those amounts I consider them professionals, otherwise they can play all their lives and play every day if they want, but since they are not with those amounts or close to them, then for my it is normal, it is something that I consider that can be taken as a professional, and yes, it is not that we end up having that big money and we bet everything, no, but I think that for professional players as well as for novice players, things can be different, because in a game, we have to control our emotions, because personally, greed is very easy to fall into, the risk is always permanent in a casino.

A casino or other activity that we do will always be considered risky, in fact the mere fact that a person goes out on the street is already running a risk, the fact that a person is already playing in a casino is a higher risk, economically , so all these types of things are what we must see, if we play with greed, then the faster we will lose, we must have the desire to earn a lot of money, but according to our limits, our own abilities, because we cannot pretend that with 10, 20, 50, 100 USD we can take them to $10k, that is something that is almost Impossible, and if it can be done, it can be done, but it really is someone who has a lot to do to do it, in a casino things are not easy, every player knows it, you have to have a lot of confidence in what you do, there is no problem, On the other hand, we must see things as they are, with the appropriate way of being grounded in our reality and not looking back anymore, greed is never, risk is Always.
2251  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Behavioral Change!!! on: December 09, 2023, 01:27:16 AM
Of course, things are like that, I might think that when it comes to doing something better we have to put in our minds that things in casinos are win-lose, and if not, good luck, well the most likely thing will be a lose lose all the time, but we have to be mature in what we do, it is known that things are very simple in a casino, first of all in a casino when we go in to play, what we must do is basically understand that the things in A casino must be governed by its own rules, that is, have a balance willing to lose. If you do not have that control or you cannot do anything, we are people who will always be aware that the games in a casino will always be very relevant. So that our emotions are reflected in it, and thus the casinos obviously earn more money, it is necessary to always emphasize that a casino must make profits, because that is what their business is about, being something that can generate money for them through the players, taking advantage of the house advantage.

If a player enters a casino seeing that things are not going to be done as they should, thinking that he can win a lot of money, it is wrong, there are some who say that they can enter with $100 and they can take it to $1000 and that is something that is not It is completely correct, because to do it like this you can say that you have to be very lucky, few people when they enter the caisno achieve it, however it is something that I would not trust because they are difficult things, but nothing in a casino is given away, in this order of ideas we think that every time you enter the game, whatever, roulette, slots, you have to have a plan, so as not to lose your money completely in case you do it, you must assume that lost and not insist on what cannot be done, this is sometimes not so easy to digest , but if there is money that you are willing to lose there is no problem , because nothing in daily life will be out of balance.
2252  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Beginner needs your advices in gambling. on: December 09, 2023, 12:12:25 AM
I’m a new member here, and I want to gamble on online casinos. I found some good trusted casinos. And I want to begin with a game with a low budget. First, I need your suggestions about the best games, slots. Live casino for a beginner.
Do you think Me starting gambling would effect me in my real life or make me addicted to gambling. What’s you suggestion and advices.


You didn't state your age, it's very important that we know your age before we can say whether it will affect you in real life. If you are yet to be matured in handling certain life events, it might not be the best thing for you to be involved in.

They "why" you want to get involved in gambling is very important as this might, in some cases, determine whether you might get addicted in the long run. For instance, someone who decides to get involved in gambling as a source of livelihood will at some point get addicted to gambling.


They did not mention either which casinos were the ones they found that they think are worth their trust, as we know that there are many newbies out there that do not follow the advice of forum members and end up picking casinos that are not to be trusted, and this means that before they even began to gamble any money they deposit in those casinos is lost already, and if they happen to win, the casino will invent whatever excuse they want and not pay them.

It is very important that people who are going to play in this way, always go and choose casinos that are reliable, of high reputation and that have good trust points, in this order of ideas we must be people who can always generate better ways of playing. make money, and it may be that we all get carried away by what we see in the publicity, but there is something that we must Always keep in mind, that no matter how beautiful and good a casino looks that has no reputation at all, we cannot let ourselves take for whatever it is like this, because basically we are condemning ourselves, we are people who eat with what we see, and we must change that in any way, in any place, because that can lead us to ruin, it could be that things are Look well, but we have to see something, we have to take care of our money, nothing more , if we have money we can't do anything but be like this without being able to participate in a casino.

Whenever we are in a place we must carefully review what we can do with respect to what interests us, such as entering a casino that does not even have a thread Ann in the forum, it is for me something very risky, it is not something that can be given except practically what we can assure, our money in a casino is coveted by the casinos, it is what makes them live, so we as players have the power to decide, how much we can spend, what games we can play and How can we make sure that our money performs as it should, this is something that basically things can be done thanks to the fact that if we manage it well we can give opportunities for development in the case so that we do not spend so much, and it is simple to not spend more than what we can afford to lose, that is something obvious, every time we are doing anything in a casino if we are overwhelmed by what we were willing to lose, we cannot continue, that should be the golden rule.
2253  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: December 08, 2023, 10:50:09 PM
Could be.
At the end of the day governments are a complex thing, and some regulations might be so that society as a whole gets the right incentives to be a more productive one.
It's inconceivable to have a country where alcohol is banned from a western perspective, but it could be great for those societies, as alcohol is really bad for you and for the people around you (drunk driving, etc.)

Some countries are just minimizing risks for their citizens in any way shape or form and they are really good at it because they managed to ban those things in order to save many lives. though there are some accidents caused by other than alcohol, it was not really that serious or caused others harm because of reckless driving caused by alcohol. This should not be abused by others like playing while working in their countries because there could be a huge punishment for whoever does that, especially the mastermind behind it.

I don't Know how things can look Good , When a person is at work and Starts Playing on a phone, but things can be seen in another way , it could be that things are done with more freedom because people don't usually do it put them well or do them as people think , sometimes people's cultures tend to play very well in this , for Example I have Realized that in the Nordic Culture , in countries like Norway , people have another way of seeing Business and life, of course for the The same reason they do things when it comes to doing Better things , and they can Allow those kinds of freedoms, but why? But the workers are Necessarily very ethical, they are Capable of working , Meeting their goals and obviously things turn out Well for them because they are Very legal in their Things , but Basically at work you Cannot Disrespect Things.

When people are at Work , I see that as so Sacred , so much so that when things are at Work we Have to do everything Well , Since that is the way to do things well, so in this order of ideas we We are people who can see things differently, maybe I am someone who respects your Work a lot, a lot the way in which they Trust you because they Know that you are going to contribute and make the company move forward , or that you are an Ambassador of that Company , that is what we Must see before anything, for that reason we are not seeing that Things can Look very good , we have to take care of our work, I don't know , maybe it is my Training, but I Think that in In any case , one must repeat and use the telephone only During the hours when one is not working, as I have said in previous occasions, if we are Working in the plant , we can't be Careless, because an error in a machine can be catastrophic and Who is to Blame ? to the Engineer in Charge , that is why I say that it is very Delicate.
2254  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I could have won bigger. on: December 08, 2023, 09:59:04 PM
Good predictions.

If you borrow anyone money, have alternatives and not depend on the money because your friend can disappoint you. Sometimes it is understandable. I do not borrow people money that I can not afford to borrow them. I see money I borrow people as a lost money. If a friend is truly worth borrowing money, I borrow him or her the amount I can afford to lose.


once we are borrowing some money for our friends then we loss in our bet using that money for me it's a big mistakes because once we loss then the amount  of our bet is more like we need to find some another money for paying those losses. So like what you said above mate it's better to have a mindset that we don't need to borrow a big amount or let say don't borrow an amount that you don't want to loss .

It is obvious that any risk in lending money exists, but of course the risk increases much more the moment we use it for the game, whether for a friend or not,  what matters is that that money can be returned with everyone and their interests, because there is nothing else that cannot be done, only fulfilling is what we must see and do, for this we must be people who are very emphatic in everything, we must be coherent people who need to do something that It is not about lending money, much less to play in a casino, because obviously the most likely thing is that the money will be lost. In this sense, when we emphasize what can happen, we have to be clear about something, to lend money, it is done for some need. Whether it's an emergency or something similar, that's what I see as something Logical , but the fact of lending to play in a casino? It is not the right thing to do, even though people want to do something, at least I don't recommend doing something like that.

Basically things when it comes to doing better to obtain money , it is not the right thing to be in a casino to enter it there, a casino can not be a secure income for anything, nor see it as a job, much less to take risks of money loans, as I have said before , things can look very good when you can lend money even for a Bitcoin investment, but you have to know how to do this type of thing, not everything is for gambling, not everything is for putting money In the casino, the casino should not be seen as an investment, nor does the casino have the obligation that if a lot of money is deposited, the casino has to give them something because they are depositing, only the casino is a type of business model that has It must be seen as something to do better, this will Always be bad , for whatever it is, the income must be protected and try to increase it, the ideal would be to be able to Manage little Money in a casino and try to save until you have a good Amount.
2255  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casinos after the shutdowns of mixers on: December 08, 2023, 08:57:53 PM
IMO you can't stop mixers, just like you can't stop deep web markets. Both will continue to exist and governments are just starting to look stupid when they try to fight something for a decade and it's still there doing fine, like torrents.

I don't agree with a number of stances taken by many governments around the world and since I haven't elected them, I'm not going to obey they. Why should I care what the US government thinks about mixers if I'm on the other side of the globe and never even used USD in my life?

Bottom line, casinos will thrive, mixers will thrive, bitcoin will thrive. Nothing will change, apart from policies that regulated companies will have to keep up with or they'll get fined.
Mixers are very fluid in their operations. They can't be prevented. There will always be a an everlasting bad blood between mixers and the government. At some point the government and mixers will have a middle ground, this is what I expect though but do not know when it is going to happen. The true bitcoin supporters who want to be truly anonymous.

For now, even if the  domains of a thousand mixers are seized, casinos that are regulated will thrive. They do not work together. A problem facing one will not stop the business of the other.

You are right, when we are in a period in which things are less anonymous and less private, it is better for all those who actually seek that this turns out to be bad, in this order of ideas we have to assume that things as the mixers are taking away the privilege they had from certain players, but since now they are so demanding with KYC, without mixers, without VPN, there will come a time where the demand for the caissos will go down, because like some players they basically are Very millionaires who like their privacy and anonymity will no longer want to play that way, because that will be paradise for governments to track them and the possible things they can ask of each player, from a large tax to a large amount of money. What they can get out of them, some don't see it that way, but let's say that the perosans that we already have experience in this type of dealings with governments and banking entities because what one does is think badly.

Basically, being without mixers is like giving a big point to the governments and entities that are completely centralized, and the mixers in my opinion are not illegal at all, because it is money, it is money that people want most, so why can't they have it? people ? single governments? banks? Those things are the ones that I always emphasize a lot, just imagining a casino that is legal, that does not have many licenses, that does not require KYC nor does it matter if they use the VPN, but that is a totally reliable casino, where they believe that the players of casinos? especially the whales who don't like to give their KYC? For there obviously, this thing about the mixers is one more step Backwards that is being taken, I don't think that all the mixer companies will go down , I think that they are going to be in a persecution, but I don't see that it is something serious, It's something that doesn't suit me at all, it's not what it should be.
2256  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Money laundering in crypto casino on: December 08, 2023, 08:25:39 PM
At this point, I do not believe in money laundering in crypto casinos, because everything is limited even when things are about money, and most politicians or criminals do their laundering in other ways, not in crypto anymore, even less in casinos than with the KYC, well, at least, they would have to be very novice in this, those who do money laundering do it first with indero fiat, in the style of the drug traffickers as they were in Colombia during the era of Pablo Escobar, as well , where basically the weight of the dollar is handled by the Kg, we are somso people who take for granted that some countries do not have corruption, but the major money laundering is not done so much by criminals, the governments do it and in a way very shameless, but that's another topic, here what matters is that it is very difficult and stupid for them to try to do money laundering through crypto casinos, I don't know, but the possibility of them doing it through decentralized casinos isn't either. I see it as viable for what they do.

They currently do money laundering through other things, it could be that they go and do it through cars, through many things where they can camouflage , this is what makes those who do it much smarter than the authorities. in the present, where 'they can enter any country where they do it and that's it, they have no scruples , it is money that they are practically going to move, so they can do it with a little more brazenness knowing that things can happen like that, I prefer I would think that chaos of this style are more focused on carrying money and transferring it, since in casinos they cannot, nor should they, in a casual casino you do not Make a very large deposit, because they set off the alarms, and I cannot even imagine the Amount of KYC they must do, because that is something that could be on another level because if the casinos with little money bother , with something less than $10k , they will move a lot , I don't even want to Imagine.

2257  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Casino Crypto gambling on: December 08, 2023, 07:45:15 PM
~snip~
Everyone would like this, but the fact is that these profits and losses shake us from one side to the other. When we win, we imagine what we can afford to buy and where we will go on vacation, but after 10 minutes the situation may become reversed and we already need to think about who we will borrow money from again for the game and who to give it to. This erases emotional boundaries and we may not feel that this money is real, but only pictures on the monitor screen. Because of this, even if we are lucky and manage to win something, it will be incredibly difficult to leave with this winnings. How many players do you know who left while remaining at the pinnacle of success?
It is normal to imagine what we can afford and what we can do with the winnings. But if we have good self-control, we will only use the winning money for things that are useful to us. It depends on how we can manage the winning money and not follow our ego because of momentary emotions. We are lucky to have crypto casinos, but we are not so lucky compared to other people. When gambling at a crypto casino, you need luck and skill to win. But only some can have it, so only a few people can have it, so there are still more people who lose than people who win.
It is for these ideas about good purchases that people turn to gambling; they want a better life or to assert themselves by winning. As one of my acquaintances, a gambler, said that when he had money from winnings, he felt that he was needed, because he began to treat everyone in a restaurant, taking everyone to different bars at his own expense. But the problem is that such people are forgotten when they face problems in life.

In general, I don’t want to say anything bad about gambling and I’m glad that I have the opportunity to enjoy winnings and sometimes accept losses, it’s only important to control the risk and not cross the red lines.
Well this applies a lot to things that when done like this are really very different, that is, when we are doing things to generate more money, we respond to them as profits , and it is clear that this is the case, in profits everything can be Achieved I think that is why it is important for every human being to worry about Getting more and more money , because money makes life easier, but when it comes to choosing the things that will Accompany us, things Change  , because Everything is based on money , It can be very Fleeting and Temporary, the Majority of people in the world have a particular interest , and as a way they see to take advantage of people, but it is something that we must be very clear about, that is why the real friends know each other in bad times, when a person needs another, that's what we see, after these things we Should be people who really see others with faces that they can do something better for us, but that's not the case, It's like your friend says, in good times there are many, but in bad times there are few.

When you make friends with some people in a Casino, you don't know what that friendship is really based on, it may be that you meet people with a lot of values and that they offer true friendship, but considering how everything is, the people are looking for your own benefit, it is difficult to find real friends these days, they can show you a face but then a betrayal that is very ugly , I think that things when trying to get Friendships, well you have to be very jealous in knowing how to Choose it , because basically Things can go to the level that I set before, everyone wants money, there is no longer that respect or that value of helping others, some words, Advice , being there when a person needs it, that is a true friend, money It comes and goes, it is needed, yes, a lot, but as long as there is health, life, real friends , then everything turns out to be more bearable.
2258  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 08, 2023, 07:13:29 PM
Have read that there is a rumor that has it, Canelo will be fighting Bivol in a rematch this May and it will be held in the 168-pound division. But the catch here is neither boxer would reach the 178 lbs come fight night, for me this is the same as the rehydration clause that Team Canelo is master of doing on their opponents.

What's your though on this guys, do Bivol would take the bait?
For the money? maybe Bivol and his camp will take this bait, however, you have to look at how the fans and boxing analyst will look at it,

a. Bivol is going down to a weight that he hasn't fought
b. Canelo is obviously negating what Bivol advantage has
c. Fans wanted Canelo to fight the young Mexican David Benavidez

For me, this is just money fight for Canelo. He should go with c, here, fight Benavidez, give him his due and then cemented his legacy by defeating him.

That's normal, when a person is basically doing things very well, but needs fame and needs money, obviously they have to take the bait, things can happen that way, we as fans know that it's something il+ ological that a boxer like Bivol wants or has to lower his category to get a little more money, it's something strange, but come on, it's Canelo, we know that we all Want to see a Canelo vs Benvidez, but things tend to be very different, something that we as boxing fans must learn is that in boxing is when you should have the most business model , because when you try to do things better you can verify that a boxer has to live off of money, his life, his diet, all that epresents money, his gym, his treatments, massages, everything that a boxer needs, well obviously he needs to have money, for this reason we have to be emphatic at all times, this is a spectacle.

I know that some of us stick to just hoping for the best in sport, and that they make fun of themselves because they are basically into rivalry, but this is something else, for a long time now the money that has been moving thanks to the boxing industry It is impressive, a lot has to be done , in fact Bivol has to move , one of the things that the Boxer wants is to have fame, but for what ? to have money , it is something normal, and that is why he uses his talent, his skills to be able to have a great life, that is partly why he is a boxer , he has Expressed it many times, and he always wants to have the best fights, because he knows that if he wins he will be valued much more, he will be much more famous, and that translates into having more money, is what he is really looking for, that is why he can do it, although to be honest, he should It will be Canelo Who rises and Moves to the Other category and not Bivol, but hey, we all know what Canelo is Like.

2259  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casinos and gamblers are struggling with high tx fees.? on: December 08, 2023, 06:16:47 PM
For now, with the increase in transaction costs from bitcoin, gamblers are using altcoins if they want to deposit some money for gambling. That can help gamblers who still want to gamble at times like these.
But we know that those who already gamble often won't stop them even if bitcoin transaction fees become higher. They can use other methods to keep gambling.
Casinos won't have much of an impact with high transaction fees but we don't know. Maybe the casino will also increase its transaction fees to match existing transaction costs.

Well, when a player  is in the casino for example at stake.com, things are usually done in different ways, first of all we are people who like to enjoy the game and it is known that we are not playing a lot, because we want to do things very well. And for that reason, the least we should think about is the fee rates because of how high they are or something like that, that's why I'm talking about this casino because the transaction rates are quite low, but things have to happen right, also in Bitcoin. They don't even charge a Transaction fee to leave and make a good withdrawal, so if we play in casinos that are really reliable, that take care not to think that this could be one of the ways that could harm us with bitcoin, at least In these casinos it is like that , of course, not all casinos currently have this, the casinos now have many that do not have this that they assume the majority of the fee, or that the fee is very small, there are only a few casinos that do it.

Now, when we are in the process of doing the best possible in a game, we must always maintain the best, sometimes we as players have a lot on our mind , First of all some players are not very well, because they feel stressed, they Feel pressure to to be Able to win, in reality we do not Know how many struggles players have in a casino, there are some who play with the prevailing need to win, something that I never recommend doing, but no matter how much it has been talked about in different forum forums, There arePlayers who still Believe that the Casino is or can be Considered a job, or that they can earn an Income Similar to that of a job or something like tha t, that is Something that we should never Alow , that is why we should always do everything possible to be well with Everything, and a casino that at the end of the day afterDoing good management, the least we want is for them to take money from us just for withdrawing , that is what we Should avoid.
2260  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do You Include Or Always Include Gambling In Your New Year's Resolution on: December 08, 2023, 05:35:51 PM
This question or this thread has a lot to do with the things that can be done in the projects that we have for the new years, of course they must be included, because not everything is work, not everything is the same as always in a system, it has to be Include games of chance in the new year's resolutions in a controlled way, because it is the means of entertainment for many and that is something that if we like, why exclude it, of course we should not put it as a priority because we all know how dangerous it is. It is playing without control of our money, if we play without control we can lose all our money, become decapitalized, and then our obligations that we have to fulfill fully will be compromised and it will be something that is not at all desirable to have, for that reason we are people who must Being very aware of it and learning to cope with things, the fun? Yes, but they should be seen as purposes similar to those of protection, to the projects that we have of lower intensity, but it is important to include them, because it is something that makes us happy.

Could this cause some people to become addicted? No, because addiction is something you don't want to have even in painting, because it is a very strong condition that not only loses money, but also friends, families, in many cases people take their own lives, so that's the only thing We must always be very far away, and that is why control, good management of our expenses, money in a casino is everything, it is useless to know much about the games if you do not have money, because if you have it you will still lose So then it's nice to have that in consideration, but our plans, what we must visualize ourselves is in the possible, that we must never stop having fun, because life consists of that, of fun and that is what we like, apart from Our responsibilities are something we must do.
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