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2241  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: October 29, 2018, 03:35:23 AM
So the mixer doesn't protect against this scenario...

Because it is not a scenario that needs protecting against. It is extremely unlikely to occur and if it did it would not decrease your privacy in any way.
2242  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: October 29, 2018, 03:28:39 AM
How do I know those minimum requirement?

From that screenshot, it looks like there is something else here. PM me your user ID and/or email and I'll take a look.
2243  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: October 29, 2018, 03:22:16 AM
What if i come back after 2 days and mix again?
Can i receive same coins i sent 2 days ago? Because the chips can be created from these coins (sent 2 days ago)

I think this mixer has no protection against such common scenario. Or am i wrong?

It really doesn't matter as all anyone can see is that you used a chip. If you use it as it is intended you would not send the chips back to the originating wallet so there is no way anyone could know if the chips were funded by you on a previous use of the service.
2244  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: October 29, 2018, 03:02:45 AM
Why I can't use my RP?

You have to meet minimum wagering and balance requirements.

Also i can't claim at freedoge

Sorry, my psychic powers aren't up to divining that information.

Number keep rolling and wont stop

That is a network connection issue. When you roll a request is sent to the server and the animation starts. It only stops when/if it receives the response.
2245  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: October 29, 2018, 12:49:46 AM
Does this mixer prevent you from receiving own coins?

If you withdraw chips they are created before you deposited so it is impossible that they were funded from the same coins.
2246  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: October 29, 2018, 12:17:53 AM
why don't you display the support email address on the site, so that everyone who gets into trouble can complain
that way you will get the actual number of complaints

The majority of people who are locked out of their account and can't work out what the support email just makes a new account to contact us about the old one. I really don't think it is necessary and you are still ignoring my point that the number of complaints this time is COMPARITIVELY minute to when other measures have been put in.
Also the auto-blocking does not delete accounts. That is only done manually when I find a case of multi-accounting abuse that I'm 100% certain about.


yes, but it's not the opposite of the bit in red, so it doesn't make it wrong
because you could block the range in a larger pool, which is a pool used by operators to serve domestic customers.

The pools of addresses are not mixed usage. I'm blocking ranges allocated to datacentres, VPN, and proxy services that I actually find abuse on. Domestic customers cannot be allocated addresses from those pools. The only possibility for that to happen is an inaccuracy in the database and I only rectify that if a genuine customer user comes forward and tells me what the IP address is.
2247  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: October 28, 2018, 07:03:13 AM
Yes. And I also know that anybody can email support@freebitco.in

Yes, you know anybody can send an email there but not many "anybody" know about that email address because you don't display it on the site.

Plenty of people do email it, I get hundreds every day.

well, about blocking ISPs, you can say I'm wrong and I apologize for that, but I have revised what I mean by that in my previous post as below:

I'm trying to say that the bit in red is wrong. ISPs split up their networks and a domestic user with a dynamic address isn't going to be allocated an address from a pool being used by a datacentre that is hosting proxy servers.


for this I am very sure if you are wrong, because I have proven it a few days ago as I explained in my previous post.
but it's just a report, I can't prove it further like sending the IP addresses I mean.
the reason I explained in my previous post and I also apologize for that.

As I explained at the start IP address databases are not 100% accurate. I'm also human and may have made an error in blocking a network I shouldn't have. What I do know is that from the number of support requests we are receiving this method has had far less (almost none) impact on genuine users than things that we have done previously. It also has significantly reduced abuse.

if you feel annoyed with my report, just say it and I will stop continuing this topic.
I just hope you use my report as a consideration

Not at all, I'm always willing to discuss this. It makes a change from some idiot spamming about his shitbot dice script.
2248  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: October 28, 2018, 01:51:48 AM
ha ha ha, are you still fighting bots?  here something being discussed in addition to combat bots? not be interesting for you to read

Welcome back. I'm sorry to have to inform you that since you have been gone you have been replaced. We now have another imbecilic troll that beats you hands down at posting utter crap.

Nothing additional was being discussed. @Gary.Wilson_Jr. was incorrectly saying that we had blocked ISPs and genuine users with dynamic IPs were being affected. This is wrong in that we don't block ISPs and the IP ranges we do block are used for proxy and VPN services and are not the ranges that ISPs use for domestic customers. We are also not receiving complaints from real customers so I know that the blocking is correctly targetted. If anyone does have any additional suggestions I'm always willing to hear them and if we can implement something successful from them we always pay bounties.
2249  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: October 27, 2018, 01:43:57 PM
why don't you try to think in a user's perspective

I do. I was a customer since the start of this site and only an employee for a few months.

Did you know, when you delete a user's account then he won't be able to log in and because of that he can't complain through his account.

Yes. And I also know that anybody can email support@freebitco.in

not everyone out there understands how all this works and not all of the freebitco.in users know about this bitcointalk forum
even myself, I know freebitco.in first than this forum

You are missing the central point I made. Back in around March wetsuit put some anti-bot measures in place that resulted in this forum being deluged with complaints. I answered a lot of those and wetsuit asked me if I wanted to do forum support as a result of that. From talking to him and suggesting a few things he's implemented a new anti-bot system that has reduced free rolls by 50% and not resulted in any significant number of complaints. I also do the email support now and there very few there as well.
2250  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: October 27, 2018, 09:59:42 AM
isn't it ridiculous if freebitco.in blacklisted ISPs with very many customers.

It would be. That's why we don't do it.


I'm surprised you look proud of the 50% decline in traffic and free rolls of games even though the wager volume remains the same

It is an indication that the selective action we have taken has been effectively targetted on abusive accounts and very few legitimate users have been affected. Compared to the support requests I had earlier this year when wetsuit tried a different method I have had hardly any requests from real users this time, just a few botters trying it on.
2251  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Big wins at FreeBitco.in on: October 27, 2018, 05:59:50 AM

Nice win but there is no extra $5 reward for that.
2252  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Big wins at FreeBitco.in on: October 27, 2018, 05:08:21 AM

I can't see the screenshot if you post it somewhere that is password protected. Use snag.gy or imgur.com.
2253  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: October 26, 2018, 06:31:29 AM
I tried to see traffic to freebitco.in through a site like this:

https://www.similarweb.com/website/freebitco.in

we can see that the traffic has fallen by more than 50% in 2 months.
I dare not say that it was caused by a massive blocking carried out by TheQuin because it could also be caused by people's interest in bitcoin has declined.

Free rolls have also declined by 50% but wagering volume has remained the same.


so you block IP addresses at a certain range
based on what I know, if the IP address that you block is the IP address of the Dynamic ISP, it will make thousands or millions (depending on the range you block) of innocent IP addresses victimized because the workings of Dynamic IP addresses are random like the process of creating bitcoin addresses when randomizing the SHA-256 number as a raw private key.
That's if I don't misunderstand the word "range" that you mean.

It really depends on how the IP address database has it defined. ISPs usually have many thousands of ranges and they each vary in size. Generally speaking the average range I'm talking about when adding a block is a class C subnet of 254 usable addresses.


Suggestion : Send a PM from another account or use the support link on the site that are not linked to information on this forum.

Yes, the support email only tells me an account number and obviously the email address associated with it.
2254  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: October 25, 2018, 12:00:42 PM
@kakmakr

First, I did not use that dynamic IPs and did not record the address when I used it to test freebitco.in registration a few days ago

second, I am just like you, some time ago when your IP was blocked and TheQuin asked about your IP and you decided not to reveal it.
I'm just not comfortable when revealing my location

if my analysis is correct then maybe this also happens to many Dynamic ISPs and will cause a decrease in traffic to freebitco.in

but TheQuin was very sure of the system he designed, so maybe I was wrong

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@TheQuin

I have considered ISP with 150 million customers as a clue


As I said we don't block ISPs so I didn't research how many customers they have. The IP databases are not 100% accurate and sometimes when the database is updated an address range can be reclassified as a VPN, proxy or whatever. I try and only block ranges that are heavily abused rather than rely just on the classification. I respect all of our customers' privacy but I'm sure you understand I can't look into it without the IP address affected.
2255  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: October 25, 2018, 09:55:16 AM
C'mon people it's called gambling, the house ALWAYS wins at the end!....
Also C'mon man, no one says you shoud win, no one says casino is a great way of money making for gamblers, no one says deposit much and much or play here to be rich. All they say is that you have to gamble just for fun, it's another task what you do and what you expect from casino. So don't blame others for it, you do everything on your own.
TheQuin
How is thr contest going? Haven't received email for a while.

It's going very well. This month has had a bit of a runaway leader for a while so less action to follow, but overall good levels again. We don't like to spam too many emails to you  Wink
2256  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: October 25, 2018, 07:27:56 AM
C'mon people it's called gambling, the house ALWAYS wins at the end!....

That might be true overall but individual players do win as well.
2257  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: October 25, 2018, 06:41:45 AM
I have never blocked an ISP, please tell me what you think is blocked.

maybe you have made automatic blocking on some IPs that you suspect are used by botnets

but unfortunately some of these IPs are the Dynamic IPs owned by the largest operator in our country.

so that anyone who uses that IPs will be automatically blocked.

I think this will block the way for that ISP customers to your site

so this is the same as blocking the ISP, because sooner or later the users will use the IP address that is included in your blacklist because the IP they use will continue to change as the Dynamic IP works.

and for botnets who may have used the ISP only need to move to another ISP.

so I think the effect will be worse for genuine users than for botnets.


Why not just send TheQuin a PM with the IP address of the ISP and he can validate and unblock it. I think it would be reasonable to assume if a lot of bots are coming from the same ISP or region, then the service will block the access to that ISP/Region.

I know the faucet income was different, based on the location of the traffic, when advertisers still paid for faucet traffic. So based on what they did with that, it would be reasonable to assume that they can filter quality ISPs from ISPs that are just used for bot traffic.  Huh

I asked twice but without a clue to even which ISP he's talking about I can't look into the complaint. There are databases of IP addresses with location, ISP and usage type. I can also look at the usage we get from any particular network and it is pretty easy to see where there are large amounts of abuse going on.



lol, bro~

This is not the village idiot's shitbot thread. Please respect the forum rules and go and discuss it somewhere else.
2258  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: October 25, 2018, 02:03:13 AM
The merged team of scammers continue to puff and make excuses.

51 red in a row - now it is called gambling

Return my money.
lmao you dont get money back in gambling, what odds were you betting ? if above 2.xx then at that huge house edge this site has its very much possible to hit even higher losing streak

He was betting 7x and it is quite remarkable that only 51 is the longest he managed to get.
2259  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: October 24, 2018, 09:26:08 AM
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I know how the system works, I designed it, and it won't do what you are saying. Tell me what ISP and IP addresses you think are blocked.
2260  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: October 24, 2018, 08:50:32 AM


Hi TheQuin

It seems like you have trouble distinguishing botnets and genuine users
Did you know, you have recently blocked the biggest ISP in our country (they claim to have more than 150 million customers)

I heard from some of my friends that they cannot log in to freebitco.in, but this only happens to one ISP
then I tried to register an account with that ISP and after a few hours, the new account I registered could not log in, so I concluded that you blocked the ISP.

Actually I also use the same ISP but on premium services that use a static IP address so there is no problem with my account.
but I suspect this also makes my income as a referrer fall dramatically because I think many of my referrals use that ISP, but I don't know for sure.

I have never blocked an ISP, please tell me what you think is blocked.
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