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[poptok1]

i love this site, truly trusted..
I'am in

Go through me and you will like it even more.
I mean register off the links in the signature of mine, its a good gig I think.
Some extra 50% of your clicks will get given back, deposit percentage is also given back at 25% rate.
I think its a rare thing. Only catch is that Im making reward points of your clicks.
But there is also a special deal for the lottery, check the more info link.

Shameless self advertising is now over  

[broke_tradah]

besides there is not that big a difference between 1% and 5% house edge. we are talking about rolling a number between 0 and 4750 versus rolling a number between 0 and 4950 (assuming you bet lo). how many of your rolls actually fall between 4750 and 4950?

WTF are you talking about not a big difference?  Thats a 400% INCREASE.  How is 400% not a big difference hahaha.  Would you not sell or buy if something moved by 400%?  So,  if I increase your taxes by 400%,  you're just going to take it on the chin?  Wow you are fucking stupid hahaha.  $1 + 400% == $5.  So instead of paying me $1,  you're now going to pay me $5 for every $100 you make,  for the rest of your time in these forums for being so stupid.  Then, after the 100th payment,  you will have paid me $500 instead of $100.  And it just keeps COMPOUNDING from there.  You seem to fail to understand the concept of compound math and how much even a 1.5% house edge is GINORMOUSLY different from a 1% house edge,  let alone 5%!!!

[TheQuin]

i love this site, truly trusted..
I'am in

Go through me and you will like it even more.
I mean register off the links in the signature of mine, its a good gig I think.
Some extra 50% of your clicks will get given back, deposit percentage is also given back at 25% rate.
I think its a rare thing. Only catch is that Im making reward points of your clicks.
But there is also a special deal for the lottery, check the more info link.

Shameless self advertising is now over  

That reminds me that our generous referral income of 0.4% of wagered amount, 50% of free winnings and 25% of interest earned also are part of the overall value calculation as well as everything mentioned before. The other factors involved seem to be going over the heads of the more simple minded people here.

[STT]

WTF are you talking about not a big difference?  Thats a 400% INCREASE.  How is 400% not a big difference hahaha.  Would you not sell or buy if something moved by 400%?  So,  if I increase your taxes by 400%,  you're just going to take it on the chin?  Wow you are fucking stupid hahaha.  $1 + 400% == $5.  So instead of paying me $1,  you're now going to pay me $5 for every $100 you make,  for the rest of your time in these forums for being so stupid.  Then, after the 100th payment,  you will have paid me $500 instead of $100.  And it just keeps COMPOUNDING from there.  You seem to fail to understand the concept of compound math and how much even a 1.5% house edge is GINORMOUSLY different from a 1% house edge,  let alone 5%!!!

I dont disagree but I think he is referring to a casual user where as the house itself is the most concerned with the stacked weight to a thousand iterations of any maths equation relating to their revenue.   The average person is going to be more motivated by one off factors like the amount of time to log in or the free faucet part even if thats only available once in a while and isnt any large amount, people lose attention after 5 minutes anyway.    
    No doubt any hardcore or pro gambler is well aware of differences that stack up like this, similar kind of maths comes into long term mortgage debt and all sorts of considerations that benefit paying close attention.  Pretty sure this is how Warren Buffet got rich off these 'little' differences, but this might not be the core audience for this site

[broke_tradah]

WTF are you talking about not a big difference?  Thats a 400% INCREASE.  How is 400% not a big difference hahaha.  Would you not sell or buy if something moved by 400%?  So,  if I increase your taxes by 400%,  you're just going to take it on the chin?  Wow you are fucking stupid hahaha.  $1 + 400% == $5.  So instead of paying me $1,  you're now going to pay me $5 for every $100 you make,  for the rest of your time in these forums for being so stupid.  Then, after the 100th payment,  you will have paid me $500 instead of $100.  And it just keeps COMPOUNDING from there.  You seem to fail to understand the concept of compound math and how much even a 1.5% house edge is GINORMOUSLY different from a 1% house edge,  let alone 5%!!!

I dont disagree but I think he is referring to a casual user where as the house itself is the most concerned with the stacked weight to a thousand iterations of any maths equation relating to their revenue.   The average person is going to be more motivated by one off factors like the amount of time to log in or the free faucet part even if thats only available once in a while and isnt any large amount, people lose attention after 5 minutes anyway.    
    No doubt any hardcore or pro gambler is well aware of differences that stack up like this, similar kind of maths comes into long term mortgage debt and all sorts of considerations that benefit paying close attention.  Pretty sure this is how Warren Buffet got rich off these 'little' differences, but this might not be the core audience for this site

That still doesnt make his statement of "there is not that big a difference between 1% and 5% house edge" any less false.  Because 400% is 400%.  Thats a huge difference whether you are a pro or not.  Anyone who doesnt look at such a huge difference is EXACTLY the kind of person freebitco wants though.  Why?  Because it proves they are just to stupid to know any better and what better person to scam out of their money than a stupid person?    This is why I have no problem bashing this place while at the same time being one of it's largest referral accounts (my bot makes them a shit ton when greed gets the better of the user) lol.  The people here are so stupid that it doesnt even matter what you say,  they are still going to play anyway.  Even if you tell them it's all rigged.  See,  sites with lower house edges stop bots in a FAR different manor than wetsuit does.  There is something they are doing that he does not.  Anyone familiar with dice bot sites would quickly know what that is because its the first question they ask themselves when testing a new site.  It even has its own acronym in the field of dice bots.

[jackg]

That still doesnt make his statement of "there is not that big a difference between 1% and 5% house edge" any less false.  Because 400% is 400%.  Thats a huge difference whether you are a pro or not.  Anyone who doesnt look at such a huge difference is EXACTLY the kind of person freebitco wants though.  Why?  Because it proves they are just to stupid to know any better and what better person to scam out of their money than a stupid person?    This is why I have no problem bashing this place while at the same time being one of it's largest referral accounts (my bot makes them a shit ton when greed gets the better of the user) lol.  The people here are so stupid that it doesnt even matter what you say,  they are still going to play anyway.  Even if you tell them it's all rigged.  See,  sites with lower house edges stop bots in a FAR different manor than wetsuit does.  There is something they are doing that he does not.  Anyone familiar with dice bot sites would quickly know what that is because its the first question they ask themselves when testing a new site.  It even has its own acronym in the field of dice bots.

Have you thought of neglecting this site broken? You seem to have a lot against it so it would be good to see you move to another with a lower house edge (maybe I'll join in on the crew if you do)...
There are many gambling sites that offer 0.25% referral income which is a bit less than what you currently get but coupled with a low house edge and you could do much better for yourself and your gamblers.

And stupidity was proven happily before. Also, if there's not much difference between 4500 and 4900, why doesn't wetsuit change the house edge to be 10% as it seems that's what thequin would want to be a nice brick and mortar casino somewhere charging a 10% house edge and drawing people in to gamble and lose their funds... Besides, if there's no difference between 4500 and 4900 what's the difference between 4500 and 0, that's right, let's make it impossible for people to win here because we're still just compounding it by another multiple of 5.

[Betwrong]

WTF are you talking about not a big difference?  Thats a 400% INCREASE.  How is 400% not a big difference hahaha.  Would you not sell or buy if something moved by 400%?  So,  if I increase your taxes by 400%,  you're just going to take it on the chin?  Wow you are fucking stupid hahaha.  $1 + 400% == $5.  So instead of paying me $1,  you're now going to pay me $5 for every $100 you make,  for the rest of your time in these forums for being so stupid.  Then, after the 100th payment,  you will have paid me $500 instead of $100.  And it just keeps COMPOUNDING from there.  You seem to fail to understand the concept of compound math and how much even a 1.5% house edge is GINORMOUSLY different from a 1% house edge,  let alone 5%!!!

I dont disagree but I think he is referring to a casual user where as the house itself is the most concerned with the stacked weight to a thousand iterations of any maths equation relating to their revenue.   The average person is going to be more motivated by one off factors like the amount of time to log in or the free faucet part even if thats only available once in a while and isnt any large amount, people lose attention after 5 minutes anyway.    
    No doubt any hardcore or pro gambler is well aware of differences that stack up like this, similar kind of maths comes into long term mortgage debt and all sorts of considerations that benefit paying close attention.  Pretty sure this is how Warren Buffet got rich off these 'little' differences, but this might not be the core audience for this site

Absolutely. Because gambling for us is not a business where we can make money taking into account the smallest details. People who think that way lose everything in most cases. Gambling, dice and lottery in particular, is a game of chance and any calculations here would be of little help. What is good about playing on FreeBitco.in and similar trusted sites is that if you win one day because of the extreme luck, you are guaranteed to receive your reward.

[Gary.Wilson_Jr.]

Hi TheQuin

It seems like you have trouble distinguishing botnets and genuine users
Did you know, you have recently blocked the biggest ISP in our country (they claim to have more than 150 million customers)

I heard from some of my friends that they cannot log in to freebitco.in, but this only happens to one ISP
then I tried to register an account with that ISP and after a few hours, the new account I registered could not log in, so I concluded that you blocked the ISP.

Actually I also use the same ISP but on premium services that use a static IP address so there is no problem with my account.
but I suspect this also makes my income as a referrer fall dramatically because I think many of my referrals use that ISP, but I don't know for sure.

[TheQuin]

Hi TheQuin

It seems like you have trouble distinguishing botnets and genuine users
Did you know, you have recently blocked the biggest ISP in our country (they claim to have more than 150 million customers)

I heard from some of my friends that they cannot log in to freebitco.in, but this only happens to one ISP
then I tried to register an account with that ISP and after a few hours, the new account I registered could not log in, so I concluded that you blocked the ISP.

Actually I also use the same ISP but on premium services that use a static IP address so there is no problem with my account.
but I suspect this also makes my income as a referrer fall dramatically because I think many of my referrals use that ISP, but I don't know for sure.

I have never blocked an ISP, please tell me what you think is blocked.

[Gary.Wilson_Jr.]

I have never blocked an ISP, please tell me what you think is blocked.

maybe you have made automatic blocking on some IPs that you suspect are used by botnets

but unfortunately some of these IPs are the Dynamic IPs owned by the largest operator in our country.

so that anyone who uses that IPs will be automatically blocked.

I think this will block the way for that ISP customers to your site

so this is the same as blocking the ISP, because sooner or later the users will use the IP address that is included in your blacklist because the IP they use will continue to change as the Dynamic IP works.

and for botnets who may have used the ISP only need to move to another ISP.

so I think the effect will be worse for genuine users than for botnets.

[TheQuin]

~

I know how the system works, I designed it, and it won't do what you are saying. Tell me what ISP and IP addresses you think are blocked.

[Enth]

The merged team of scammers continue to puff and make excuses.

51 red in a row - now it is called gambling

Return my money.

[Mirae]

The merged team of scammers continue to puff and make excuses.

51 red in a row - now it is called gambling

Return my money.

lmao you dont get money back in gambling, what odds were you betting ? if above 2.xx then at that huge house edge this site has its very much possible to hit even higher losing streak

[TheQuin]

The merged team of scammers continue to puff and make excuses.

51 red in a row - now it is called gambling

Return my money.

lmao you dont get money back in gambling, what odds were you betting ? if above 2.xx then at that huge house edge this site has its very much possible to hit even higher losing streak

He was betting 7x and it is quite remarkable that only 51 is the longest he managed to get.

[Kakmakr]

I have never blocked an ISP, please tell me what you think is blocked.

maybe you have made automatic blocking on some IPs that you suspect are used by botnets

but unfortunately some of these IPs are the Dynamic IPs owned by the largest operator in our country.

so that anyone who uses that IPs will be automatically blocked.

I think this will block the way for that ISP customers to your site

so this is the same as blocking the ISP, because sooner or later the users will use the IP address that is included in your blacklist because the IP they use will continue to change as the Dynamic IP works.

and for botnets who may have used the ISP only need to move to another ISP.

so I think the effect will be worse for genuine users than for botnets.

Why not just send TheQuin a PM with the IP address of the ISP and he can validate and unblock it. I think it would be reasonable to assume if a lot of bots are coming from the same ISP or region, then the service will block the access to that ISP/Region.

I know the faucet income was different, based on the location of the traffic, when advertisers still paid for faucet traffic. So based on what they did with that, it would be reasonable to assume that they can filter quality ISPs from ISPs that are just used for bot traffic. 

[TheQuin]

I have never blocked an ISP, please tell me what you think is blocked.

maybe you have made automatic blocking on some IPs that you suspect are used by botnets

but unfortunately some of these IPs are the Dynamic IPs owned by the largest operator in our country.

so that anyone who uses that IPs will be automatically blocked.

I think this will block the way for that ISP customers to your site

so this is the same as blocking the ISP, because sooner or later the users will use the IP address that is included in your blacklist because the IP they use will continue to change as the Dynamic IP works.

and for botnets who may have used the ISP only need to move to another ISP.

so I think the effect will be worse for genuine users than for botnets.

Why not just send TheQuin a PM with the IP address of the ISP and he can validate and unblock it. I think it would be reasonable to assume if a lot of bots are coming from the same ISP or region, then the service will block the access to that ISP/Region.

I know the faucet income was different, based on the location of the traffic, when advertisers still paid for faucet traffic. So based on what they did with that, it would be reasonable to assume that they can filter quality ISPs from ISPs that are just used for bot traffic. 

I asked twice but without a clue to even which ISP he's talking about I can't look into the complaint. There are databases of IP addresses with location, ISP and usage type. I can also look at the usage we get from any particular network and it is pretty easy to see where there are large amounts of abuse going on.

lol, bro~

This is not the village idiot's shitbot thread. Please respect the forum rules and go and discuss it somewhere else.

[TheQuin]

C'mon people it's called gambling, the house ALWAYS wins at the end!....

That might be true overall but individual players do win as well.

[shield132]

C'mon people it's called gambling, the house ALWAYS wins at the end!....

Also C'mon man, no one says you shoud win, no one says casino is a great way of money making for gamblers, no one says deposit much and much or play here to be rich. All they say is that you have to gamble just for fun, it's another task what you do and what you expect from casino. So don't blame others for it, you do everything on your own.
TheQuin
How is thr contest going? Haven't received email for a while.

[TheQuin]

C'mon people it's called gambling, the house ALWAYS wins at the end!....

Also C'mon man, no one says you shoud win, no one says casino is a great way of money making for gamblers, no one says deposit much and much or play here to be rich. All they say is that you have to gamble just for fun, it's another task what you do and what you expect from casino. So don't blame others for it, you do everything on your own.
TheQuin
How is thr contest going? Haven't received email for a while.

It's going very well. This month has had a bit of a runaway leader for a while so less action to follow, but overall good levels again. We don't like to spam too many emails to you 

[Gary.Wilson_Jr.]

I have never blocked an ISP, please tell me what you think is blocked.

maybe you have made automatic blocking on some IPs that you suspect are used by botnets

but unfortunately some of these IPs are the Dynamic IPs owned by the largest operator in our country.

so that anyone who uses that IPs will be automatically blocked.

I think this will block the way for that ISP customers to your site

so this is the same as blocking the ISP, because sooner or later the users will use the IP address that is included in your blacklist because the IP they use will continue to change as the Dynamic IP works.

and for botnets who may have used the ISP only need to move to another ISP.

so I think the effect will be worse for genuine users than for botnets.

Why not just send TheQuin a PM with the IP address of the ISP and he can validate and unblock it. I think it would be reasonable to assume if a lot of bots are coming from the same ISP or region, then the service will block the access to that ISP/Region.

I know the faucet income was different, based on the location of the traffic, when advertisers still paid for faucet traffic. So based on what they did with that, it would be reasonable to assume that they can filter quality ISPs from ISPs that are just used for bot traffic.  

I asked twice but without a clue to even which ISP he's talking about I can't look into the complaint. There are databases of IP addresses with location, ISP and usage type. I can also look at the usage we get from any particular network and it is pretty easy to see where there are large amounts of abuse going on.

@kakmakr

First, I did not use that dynamic IPs and did not record the address when I used it to test freebitco.in registration a few days ago

second, I am just like you, some time ago when your IP was blocked and TheQuin asked about your IP and you decided not to reveal it.
I'm just not comfortable when revealing my location

if my analysis is correct then maybe this also happens to many Dynamic ISPs and will cause a decrease in traffic to freebitco.in

but TheQuin was very sure of the system he designed, so maybe I was wrong

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@TheQuin

I have considered ISP with 150 million customers as a clue